D3 Ammos

[reilly]

My team of the year. Tough ask when you only see each team twice a year. I know I've been biased but it's hard not to be when they're the blokes you're playing with each Saturday.

There were a lot of players who could have got a game but have not been on the park enough this year to make it, eg Nick Smith OW, Dimmatina's Bent.

Before you open up and give it to me with both barrels, have a go at doing it yourself and there is even a chance of some intelligent debate on a thread that has been going downhill quickly of late.

Back: C Armstrong StM Bell SM A. Miller OW

Half Back:Cracknell UH C.Hudson OW Wells MG (the one with hair)

Centre: Gorringe UH Irving WB Tinetti K

Half Forward: J. Horsburgh OW Lawry B Chalmers OW

Forward: Cronan SM Sharp B McGee SM

Rucks: Neill EW B Mahoney EW Pavez OW

Interchange: Bell K (the ruckman) Higgins SW Horne K Reilly ?? (only joking, he can be the sides fluff girl)

What about coach of the year Old Warrior? Dont worry you can be biased here aswell.

[Archangel17]

I am from another grade Old Warrior, so just curiously looking at some pre-finals banter, and teams of the year, so i have no thoughts on players in the team. My one query for you would be. How do South Melbourne who are clearly the dominant team only have three in the side? Bentleigh clearly second 2? Elsternwick 3rd 2? UHSOB who are clearly the weakest have two as well??; and OW whilst having a good season, are clearly significantly weaker than SM and Bent and have 5. Once again i do not know many of the individual players, however normally teams of the year follow this rough pattern , even allowing for even teams.

1st 3-5
2nd 3-5
3rd 3-4
4 2-3
5 2-3
6 2
7 1-2
8 1-2
9 1
10 1

and before you say anything i have nominated in my own grade where there is a very similar balance . Top side dominant, second side not far behind , then three very good sides, with 5th unlucky to miss out.

[Archangel17]

Couple of questions for everyone too.
What had happened to robbo from Bentleigh- rated him in the past
Also how have Franky Dimmatina and Scott Grace gone this season- two very talented footballers.

oops look at the time- off to training

[bigw]

A good gesture by WBAFC. Shows that while the rivalries on field can be heated there is great comraderie throughout the league.I agree, the gesture from WB was outstanding. That's why we play the game, to go toe to toe and then put all bad feelings behind us after the game. Good drinkers down there at WB. Big Billy couldn't shake off his opposite number from WB in the skolling comp. After 2 dead heats it had to be called a day due to one protagonist not wanting to defy the TAC.
Cheers to the WB boys and good luck this weekend. Hope SM doesn't meet you until at least the GF because you look the goods, as I said after the close win to us earlier in the year.

[Poiter]

[quote=bigw]Good drinkers down there at WB. Big Billy couldn't shake off his opposite number from WB in the skolling comp. After 2 dead heats it had to be called a day due to one protagonist not wanting to defy the TAC.

I heard they shaved a gorilla for the event, not a bad effort by Billy to go with him!

[the_saint]

I heard they shaved a gorilla for the event, not a bad effort by Billy to go with him!

I'll let you know on Monday whether or not these gorillas have any chance of knocking off the top teams. If we can get up and have a win I can't see OW going on much further than next week.

[knackers_2]

I heard they shaved a gorilla for the event, not a bad effort by Billy to go with him!
There certainly isn't any shortage of rock apes to choose from at WB - despite having a big clean out of the simian types at the end of last season

[harper]

Please indulge me with one last posting on the clubroom drama at SMD.

Had a beer after training last night in our rooms at South Melbourne Districts.
What a fantastic effort put in by all those who helped with the clean up.
Hope to see some Swinburne players up for a drink win, lose or draw tomorrow.
Also while not D3 clubs I must say a big thank you to Brendan Lee at Whitefriars OC FC and Amir Perzack at Ajax AFC for their kind offers of assistance.
Good luck in your relegation battle and finals.

Now, let's play some footy!

[Red Gum]

[quote=bigw]Good drinkers down there at WB. Big Billy couldn't shake off his opposite number from WB in the skolling comp. After 2 dead heats it had to be called a day due to one protagonist not wanting to defy the TAC.

I heard they shaved a gorilla for the event, not a bad effort by Billy to go with him!

Alright that's just about enough.

I think that that comment is way out of line! I've sat here reading some fairly ridiculous dribble of recent times but honestly there is a line and like Shane Crawford you've just crossed it!

Fair dinkum! To have a go at a bloke (whoever he is) just because he matched your boy (and I...er...I mean the bloke... definately won the second round. He was robbed!) is too much.

Gorilla indeed! Pull your head in Poiter! How are you even able to type anyway?!

[bigw]

[quote=Poiter]

Alright that's just about enough.

I think that that comment is way out of line! I've sat here reading some fairly ridiculous dribble of recent times but honestly there is a line and like Shane Crawford you've just crossed it!

Fair dinkum! To have a go at a bloke (whoever he is) just because he matched your boy (and I...er...I mean the bloke... definately won the second round. He was robbed!) is too much.

Gorilla indeed! Pull your head in Poiter! How are you even able to type anyway?! Don't fall in Red Gum. It doesn't matter who won the drink, it was a bit of fun and far from being apes, WB are the probably the best bunch of blokes in the league for an opposition side. I'm not sure if Poiter is an SM man or has an axe to grind with WB, but that's no reason to drag down an SM player who was happy to join in a WB tradition by downing a couple of pots in short time. Direct your insults to the right person, and for the record you won't hear any SM people having a shot at WB after recent gestures from that club. (all due to respect to Kew, who are also a decent bunch of blokes)

[buddha]

[quote=Red Gum] Don't fall in Red Gum. It doesn't matter who won the drink, it was a bit of fun and far from being apes, WB are the probably the best bunch of blokes in the league for an opposition side. I'm not sure if Poiter is an SM man or has an axe to grind with WB, but that's no reason to drag down an SM player who was happy to join in a WB tradition by downing a couple of pots in short time. Direct your insults to the right person, and for the record you won't hear any SM people having a shot at WB after recent gestures from that club. (all due to respect to Kew, who are also a decent bunch of blokes)bigw can you tell me how big bill mcgee is going,heard his not a bad bloke!!!

[reilly]

[quote=bigw]bigw can you tell me how big bill mcgee is going,heard his not a bad bloke!!!

OW sing me your theme song babbbbbbbyyyyyyyy here we gooooo bring it in pavez.......... cause im not half bias and wanna do pavez up the bum cause i play for westbourne..........OHHHHHHHHHHHHH here we goooo!!! SING IT TO ME BABBBBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[koby01]

Robbo from Bentleigh went overseas a few weeks ago. Big loss for Bentleigh.

Went to see bentleigh play OW on the weekend, the dees in the end just wanted the ball more and put there body on the line when it counted.

[Spruce Moose]

Fairly good effort from the Wicks this year to be the only D3 club with two sides in the finals, especially after having just been promoted.

Certainly one club that cannot be accused of stacking its 2's (ala Gryphons, Kew) or lacking depth.

So what are the tips for next week? For mine:

Seniors
South Melbourne to beat Bentleigh
Elsternwick to beat West Brunswick

Reserves
Monash to beat Kew
Old Westbourne to beat Elsternwick

[Archangel17]

re Robbo- cheers KOBY

[Old Warrior]

The boys couldn't get over the line on Saturday against Bentleigh who in the end ran out the game a little stronger. We had our chances, particularly in the first qtr when we had all the play and kicked 2.8, but couldn't come away with the points.

Good luck to all those sides playing finals. I think each side is capable of beating each of the others on their day it is just a matter of who performs best under pressure.

Go OW in next Sundays ressies elimination final and may all teams stay injury free.

[mcglede]

[quote=buddha]

OW sing me your theme song babbbbbbbyyyyyyyy here we gooooo bring it in pavez.......... cause im not half bias and wanna do pavez up the bum cause i play for westbourne..........OHHHHHHHHHHHHH here we goooo!!! SING IT TO ME BABBBBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Just a dumb statement to make - sure the OW boys have been vocal on the site but there's no need to be this stupid about them

BTW, careful Gavone, you started falling back into the old trap in the last ammos round.

Looking forward to actually getting to see some D3 action next week on a rare weekend off - best of luck to ALL teams.

[Old Warrior]

I am from another grade Old Warrior, so just curiously looking at some pre-finals banter, and teams of the year, so i have no thoughts on players in the team. My one query for you would be. How do South Melbourne who are clearly the dominant team only have three in the side? Bentleigh clearly second 2? Elsternwick 3rd 2? UHSOB who are clearly the weakest have two as well??; and OW whilst having a good season, are clearly significantly weaker than SM and Bent and have 5. Once again i do not know many of the individual players, however normally teams of the year follow this rough pattern , even allowing for even teams.

1st 3-5
2nd 3-5
3rd 3-4
4 2-3
5 2-3
6 2
7 1-2
8 1-2
9 1
10 1

and before you say anything i have nominated in my own grade where there is a very similar balance . Top side dominant, second side not far behind , then three very good sides, with 5th unlucky to miss out.

Fair point A17. I did say I was biased - I wouldn't make much of a reserves umpire. I didn't try to follow any pattern numbers wise, just made sure I had a rep from each team. Apart from the OW connection I thought it was a pretty even balance. Had to include the two fellas from UH they would be in the top few in any team in D3 and played well both times against us.

I'm not sure that you necessarily need to follow a pattern when picking teams of the year - often the top few teams are there because they have better depth not because their top six are better than other teams top six. I picked mine on who played well in games against us, what I read in the record and what I had heard from opposition and umpires during the year. I thought it wasn't too bad. Does anyone else have a nomination?

[Poiter]

[quote=buddha]

OW sing me your theme song babbbbbbbyyyyyyyy here we gooooo bring it in pavez.......... cause im not half bias and wanna do pavez up the bum cause i play for westbourne..........OHHHHHHHHHHHHH here we goooo!!! SING IT TO ME BABBBBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Humility - Perhaps you should look up the meaning and better still practising a bit of it!

[Poiter]

[quote=Poiter]

Alright that's just about enough.

I think that that comment is way out of line! I've sat here reading some fairly ridiculous dribble of recent times but honestly there is a line and like Shane Crawford you've just crossed it!

Fair dinkum! To have a go at a bloke (whoever he is) just because he matched your boy (and I...er...I mean the bloke... definately won the second round. He was robbed!) is too much.

Gorilla indeed! Pull your head in Poiter! How are you even able to type anyway?!

I actually don't know who was in the contest and was only poking fun at the WB boys - a club I am affiliated with. WB is a club that can have a laugh at itself; it needed to with the old changerooms!

To be honest I am happy to see people come to the defence of the westies and to be known WB are held in such regard.

[knackers_2]

[quote=Red Gum]
WB is a club that can have a laugh at itself; it needed to with the old changerooms!



There isn't anything wrong with brown brick toilet blocks (complete with load-bearing cobwebs and mould on the inside walls). They are all the rage in Paris at the moment.

[bigw]

[quote=bigw]bigw can you tell me how big bill mcgee is going,heard his not a bad bloke!!! Top bloke mate.;)

[Johnny0nthespot]

Old Timer, Is Wesley Death back this week? Kew needs him on the park. He is the X factor.
My tips
Seniors
South Melbourne to beat Bentleigh by 40 points
Elsternwick to beat West Brunswick by 12 points

Ressies
Kew to beat Monash by 52 points
Old Westbourne to beat Elsternwick by 15 point


GF tips- South to beat Elsternwick and Kew to beat OW

[Coach Hollywood]

Guys,

Who do we think will be in D3 next season?

Ivanhoe
La Trobe
Bentleigh/Elstenwick
West Brunswick
Old Westbourne
Swinbourne
Kew
Monash
Hawthorn
Eltham College/Powerhouse

[The Hunter]

What interest to you Holywood?




Guys,

Who do we think will be in D3 next season?

Ivanhoe
La Trobe
Bentleigh/Elstenwick
West Brunswick
Old Westbourne
Swinbourne
Kew
Monash
Hawthorn
Eltham College/Powerhouse

[Coach Hollywood]

What interest to you Holywood?

From Ivanhoe Assumption Hunter and unfortunetly we got relegated, so interested to see who people think we may be playing next season and how the finals will pan out?

[Mark Harvey]

Guys,

Who do we think will be in D3 next season?

Ivanhoe
La Trobe
Bentleigh/Elstenwick
West Brunswick
Old Westbourne
Swinbourne
Kew
Monash
Hawthorn
Eltham College/Powerhouse

Did South beat Bentliegh already coach

[Coach Hollywood]

Did South beat Bentliegh already coach

I'd be backing them too win on their results so far, so yes. I could be wrong of course? I have been alot of times this season already, finals will be no different
Don't you think South will win Mr Harvey?

[Mark Harvey]

From Ivanhoe Assumption Hunter and unfortunetly we got relegated, so interested to see who people think we may be playing next season and how the finals will pan out?

No Mad Monday for you coach?

[oldtimer]

Old Timer, Is Wesley Death back this week? Kew needs him on the park. He is the X factor.
My tips
Seniors
South Melbourne to beat Bentleigh by 40 points
Elsternwick to beat West Brunswick by 12 points

Ressies
Kew to beat Monash by 52 points
Old Westbourne to beat Elsternwick by 15 point


GF tips- South to beat Elsternwick and Kew to beat OW

Afternoon Johnny, Mr Death is still out. Very doubtful for finals.

[collinsr]

Few reports from the weekend! Does anyone know what happened?

Charles McFadden Bentleigh

Andrew Horsburgh Old Westbourne
Justin Horsburgh Old Westbourne
David Nikola Old Westbourne

Kim Cummins Elsternwick

Lee Wells Monash Gryphons

Wade D'Andrea South Melb Districts

[dave31]

Few reports from the weekend! Does anyone know what happened?

Charles McFadden Bentleigh

Andrew Horsburgh Old Westbourne
Justin Horsburgh Old Westbourne
David Nikola Old Westbourne

Kim Cummins Elsternwick

Lee Wells Monash Gryphons

Wade D'Andrea South Melb Districts

I think Mcfadden was reported for striking Nikola.

And Im not sure about the Horsburghs, but I know they were involved in a bit of a scuffle with D'Andrea when Westbourne played Sths. So maybe it has something to do with that.

[Coach Hollywood]

No Mad Monday for you coach?

No Mad Saturday Night & Mad Sunday becomes Recovery Monday, As I lay in bed with a killer Hangover and look at the internet all day long. Back to work tomorrow unfortunetly.

[Johnny0nthespot]

Old Timer, will you be there on Sat? I hope its a better contest than last time these 2 met! How does the side look?

[The Hunter]

Mate this is a family orientated thread, not sure we are that interested in hearing from blokes who lie in bed all day, "surfing the net".

I can think of many better things to lie in bed with other than the net, looking at Big Footy.

Sad Hollywood, Sad!


No Mad Saturday Night & Mad Sunday becomes Recovery Monday, As I lay in bed with a killer Hangover and look at the internet all day long. Back to work tomorrow unfortunetly.

[oldtimer]

Old Timer, will you be there on Sat? I hope its a better contest than last time these 2 met! How does the side look?

Will be there on Sat. 2nds have been struggling since half way - 5 / 4 in last 9 rounds.

Have 3 to come back from last Sat's seniors and have about 4 - 5 to come back from injury. Whether they come back this week is anyone's guess. Will have at least 10 players different from last time we met. Would have to improve massively as Monash were simply awesome. Don't know what has happened to them over past 2 weeks - resting players obviously, etc. We have done plenty of homework and I know that they videoed our last game. This video would be as useful as Brokeback Mountain at a Mens Gallery Video night.

Kew have an old ressies team so would want to win this week. Would think OW would be a shoo in this week considering the fish will be playing.

In the seniors saw Elsternwick 2 weeks ago and they looked very impressive. Of the top 4 I think that only West Brunswick will not have an impact. Wouldn't worry about Elsternwick on big grounds as I believe with their running players in the midfield and quick forwards a ground like Cheltenham would be perfectly suited to their style of play. - not overly long, but has wide pockets.

I think Bentleigh and South will be a toss of a coin. I know that both sides have had plenty of injuries over the past 4 - 5 weeks but hopefully have got close to a full list to choose from. Standard of footy this year from the top 5 has been excellent. Well Done to the top 5 sides. They were a long way ahead of the rest. Interesting to note that Monash finished 1 - 8 after being 4 - 5 at half way. Good luck to all sides on the weekend.

[Coach Hollywood]

Yeah Good Call Hunter, obviously not in bed any longer, what I meant to say was "spent most the day in bed recovering". I don't have a computer in bed obviously!

Hunter, who do you think will win this weekend? Is your club in the finals?

[Mark Harvey]

Will be there on Sat. 2nds have been struggling since half way - 5 / 4 in last 9 rounds.

Have 3 to come back from last Sat's seniors and have about 4 - 5 to come back from injury. Whether they come back this week is anyone's guess. Will have at least 10 players different from last time we met. Would have to improve massively as Monash were simply awesome. Don't know what has happened to them over past 2 weeks - resting players obviously, etc. We have done plenty of homework and I know that they videoed our last game. This video would be as useful as Brokeback Mountain at a Mens Gallery Video night.

Kew have an old ressies team so would want to win this week. Would think OW would be a shoo in this week considering the fish will be playing.

In the seniors saw Elsternwick 2 weeks ago and they looked very impressive. Of the top 4 I think that only West Brunswick will not have an impact. Wouldn't worry about Elsternwick on big grounds as I believe with their running players in the midfield and quick forwards a ground like Cheltenham would be perfectly suited to their style of play. - not overly long, but has wide pockets.

I think Bentleigh and South will be a toss of a coin. I know that both sides have had plenty of injuries over the past 4 - 5 weeks but hopefully have got close to a full list to choose from. Standard of footy this year from the top 5 has been excellent. Well Done to the top 5 sides. They were a long way ahead of the rest. Interesting to note that Monash finished 1 - 8 after being 4 - 5 at half way. Good luck to all sides on the weekend.

Hey can you to homo's get a room & go the D3 reserves thread

[the_saint]

Interesting to note that Monash finished 1 - 8 after being 4 - 5 at half way.

That is a terrible second half. Losing three games they had already won, and then adding another three losses!

[rhino49]

Hey can you to homo's get a room & go the D3 reserves thread


moron without ressies you have no seniors....

[rhino49]

Will be there on Sat. 2nds have been struggling since half way - 5 / 4 in last 9 rounds.

Have 3 to come back from last Sat's seniors and have about 4 - 5 to come back from injury. Whether they come back this week is anyone's guess. Will have at least 10 players different from last time we met. Would have to improve massively as Monash were simply awesome. Don't know what has happened to them over past 2 weeks - resting players obviously, etc. We have done plenty of homework and I know that they videoed our last game. This video would be as useful as Brokeback Mountain at a Mens Gallery Video night.

Kew have an old ressies team so would want to win this week. Would think OW would be a shoo in this week considering the fish will be playing.

In the seniors saw Elsternwick 2 weeks ago and they looked very impressive. Of the top 4 I think that only West Brunswick will not have an impact. Wouldn't worry about Elsternwick on big grounds as I believe with their running players in the midfield and quick forwards a ground like Cheltenham would be perfectly suited to their style of play. - not overly long, but has wide pockets.

I think Bentleigh and South will be a toss of a coin. I know that both sides have had plenty of injuries over the past 4 - 5 weeks but hopefully have got close to a full list to choose from. Standard of footy this year from the top 5 has been excellent. Well Done to the top 5 sides. They were a long way ahead of the rest. Interesting to note that Monash finished 1 - 8 after being 4 - 5 at half way. Good luck to all sides on the weekend.

OW will be dangerous in the 2's with players coming back to play, dont know whats happen to monash? they where fantastic both time we played them, might be a repeat of the 2004 ressies GF?? with the same result im hoping..

[Mark Harvey]

moron without ressies you have no seniors....

incorrect tiger, i would think you'd forfeit your twos game before your ones, unless your with kew or Monash, so obviously we have an idea where you come from, my point is if your twos win the flag & you get relegated your club has had an ordinary year, your club will always be rated on its senior performaces, of course if you had a choice you'd like your ressies to win, but in the big pitcure who gives a flying.......
but you had back to your twos thread, maKe sure you get an early night on Friday, a big day ahead for you if you want to make it for the start of the 2's game out at cheltenham you spud

[oldtimer]

on What basis do you believe they will win more games in the 2nd half of the year Gerry

You are a very bitter man Mark, tell the 2's they are a waste at your club. At most clubs the reserve players will be the ones with limited abilities or at the end of their careers but attend almost every training session and are always at club functions. Not everyone is a gun like yourself Mark. Just though I would bring this to your attention. At this stage we had won one game. Won 5 of our last 10 after this.

Without Reserves you don't have a club. Try telling an older stateman or up and coming player that Reserves flags aren't important. You bring up the point of relegation. 3 of the sides in the 2's didn't make the 1's finals or get relegatd so what's your point!!!!!

[oldtimer]

Hey can you to homo's get a room & go the D3 reserves thread

The second half is regarding 1's if you are able to read and I am pretty sure that Rhino is from OW if you read is last comment!!!

[rhino49]

incorrect tiger, i would think you'd forfeit your twos game before your ones, unless your with kew or Monash, so obviously we have an idea where you come from, my point is if your twos win the flag & you get relegated your club has had an ordinary year, your club will always be rated on its senior performaces, of course if you had a choice you'd like your ressies to win, but in the big pitcure who gives a flying.......
but you had back to your twos thread, maKe sure you get an early night on Friday, a big day ahead for you if you want to make it for the start of the 2's game out at cheltenham you spud


hey 'spud' first of all learn to read, its pretty obivious which club im from, second of all of course ones are the most important aspect of any club, i would rather the ones where in the finals instead of the twos, but thats the way it went this year, but even a squib like you would admit the 2's players
(not results) are vital to a successful club, but then again we cant be guns like you who are far to good to be playing with scumbag 2's players, im sure your well like at your club with that attitude.

[Red Gum]

[quote=Red Gum] Don't fall in Red Gum.

I haven't fallen in. Apparently my sarcastic streak is less effective in the written form.

Kind words about WB. It's my first year at the club and it's been excellent to find such a good bunch of blokes to play with and generally good blokes to play against in this league.

[Red Gum]

Souths over Bentleigh
WB in a bit of an upset over Wicks.

Before you all rightfully accuse me of bias let me explain:

WB Vs Elsternwick matches both went to the home side by 30 odd points. On a neutral venue they should be evenly matched and so I've tipped with my heart as a tiebreaker.

[Red Gum]

Credit to OW. Very hard done by to win 12 games, have a percentage of 144 and the best defence (statistically speaking) in the league To miss out on September action is a very bitter pill I'm sure.

[harper]

Credit to OW. Very hard done by to win 12 games, have a percentage of 144 and the best defence (statistically speaking) in the league To miss out on September action is a very bitter pill I'm sure.

yep, OW win the battle of the defence (by numbers), i've been raving about South's defence for weeks but as a defender trying to get into that team i forgot how potent the forward setup at South is. The numbers suggest that South's forwards are the best in the comp. 10 goal kickers on Sat must be giving Bentleighs' backs sleepless nights looking towards this week.

We all know where Bentleigh go for their goals. Problem is, it works so often.

The Bentleigh / South game will be huge. 1 vs 2, a problematic history dating back to SFL (i think). The two best forwards going at it. F U C K AFL I'm heading to Cheltenham.

[saints]

Heard that Dean Phillips played in the seniors for Districts on the weekend and snagged a ripper of a goal. Will he keep his spot in the team?
Also a not on Jack Cronan heard whispers he is fielding offers from St Kilda City for his services next year.
Will the districts be full trength this week?
Big game for the club, first final in a few years, and after what happened with the club rooms would be great if they could get up. Just hope they turn up to play and are not alreday thinking about the Grand Final.

[tigers]

It will be a huge weekend this weekend.....

it is anyones....


South and bentleigh are very very well coached teams... this is the difference this year, BUT both can be beaten....

South are a good team, and it seems a bunch of blokes who are working for each other, they all know there spot and are playing together as a great team, BUT can be shut down through the winning of the ball across half back half forward.....

Bentleigh are much the same, great team and extremely well coached... they never get drawn into the contest and always have runners ready to go. they win the ball in close at the stoppages and aim to get the first handball out to runners... this normally over the top to 2-3 runner streaming forward.....

Elsterwick, well the danger team, much like old west i would say, have a great bunch of there top 10 players but the difference will be whether the second teer players can step up for finals....

West bruns... if they can get there half forwards on, and kick the goals through there mids they will be fine....

Unlucky to old west, all credit to a great season... a club who has come from nothing 4 years ago and seems to be ever building.... good luck in 2006... problem with west they have no structure and rely on there players to win the game, if they had been drilled like Bent or Souths would have been very very hard team to beat..

[mcglede]

Unlucky to old west, all credit to a great season... a club who has come from nothing 4 years ago and seems to be ever building.... good luck in 2006... problem with west they have no structure and rely on there players to win the game, if they had been drilled like Bent or Souths would have been very very hard team to beat..

Ouch!

[reilly]

Souths over Bentleigh
WB in a bit of an upset over Wicks.

Before you all rightfully accuse me of bias let me explain:

WB Vs Elsternwick matches both went to the home side by 30 odd points. On a neutral venue they should be evenly matched and so I've tipped with my heart as a tiebreaker.

Red Gum, the margin may have been 30 points to both home teams in the 2 matches they played. BUT in the second game i notice the amount of scoring shots elsternwick had, almost 20 more. Elsternwick kicked 23 behinds that day and which in total was more than WB shots on goals with them kicking 12.9. So if not for inacurracy elsternwick should have destroyed WB. Also i do believe elsternwick have had experience of the cheltenham oval winning last years grand final there. I cannot tell you whether all their finals games were played at cheltenham, but i did happen to see them in the grand final and they were extremely impressive playing on that ground.:)

[Mark Harvey]

hey 'spud' first of all learn to read, its pretty obivious which club im from, second of all of course ones are the most important aspect of any club, i would rather the ones where in the finals instead of the twos, but thats the way it went this year, but even a squib like you would admit the 2's players
(not results) are vital to a successful club, but then again we cant be guns like you who are far to good to be playing with scumbag 2's players, im sure your well like at your club with that attitude.

only one club from the senior top 4 playing reserves finals this year spud, South,Bent & WB must be shatterd with there year!!!!!!!!

[Mark Harvey]

It will be a huge weekend this weekend.....

it is anyones....


South and bentleigh are very very well coached teams... this is the difference this year, BUT both can be beaten....

South are a good team, and it seems a bunch of blokes who are working for each other, they all know there spot and are playing together as a great team, BUT can be shut down through the winning of the ball across half back half forward.....

Bentleigh are much the same, great team and extremely well coached... they never get drawn into the contest and always have runners ready to go. they win the ball in close at the stoppages and aim to get the first handball out to runners... this normally over the top to 2-3 runner streaming forward.....

Elsterwick, well the danger team, much like old west i would say, have a great bunch of there top 10 players but the difference will be whether the second teer players can step up for finals....

West bruns... if they can get there half forwards on, and kick the goals through there mids they will be fine....

Unlucky to old west, all credit to a great season... a club who has come from nothing 4 years ago and seems to be ever building.... good luck in 2006... problem with west they have no structure and rely on there players to win the game, if they had been drilled like Bent or Souths would have been very very hard team to beat..

agreed tiger, WB game plan straight from u/10's coaching maual

[berzerk22]

agreed tiger, WB game plan straight from u/10's coaching maual

are we bagging West Bruswick's or Westbourne's game plan? Or both?

[The Voyeur]

Another "Top Bloke" story from the weekend:

A player receives six cans as the the "BOG" award for the away team. Several team mates are seated with him, enjoying a frothy beverage, and watch him collect his prize then promptly leave with all six cans under his arm.
In contrast, the player who collected half a doz for the best reserves player leaves the clubrooms with a solitary can, but not through lack of trying to give it away...

Saw this on the "Top Blokes in Amateur Footy" thread. Were you BOG in the Seniors Mark Harvey?

[knackers_2]

Saw this on the "Top Blokes in Amateur Footy" thread. Were you BOG in the Seniors Mark Harvey?

Matera_30 returns as The Voyeur?

[The Voyeur]

Matera_30 returns as The Voyeur?

I am not Matera_30. And nor is my wife.

[Mark Harvey]

are we bagging West Bruswick's or Westbourne's game plan? Or both?

the trend is your friend, happy to be on both

[Mark Harvey]

Saw this on the "Top Blokes in Amateur Footy" thread. Were you BOG in the Seniors Mark Harvey?

no, i dont go into opposition club rooms after a game

[Red Gum]

So if not for inacurracy elsternwick should have destroyed WB.

And if not for scoring fewer points, conceding too many, and not winning enough games UHSVU would be flag favourites. (No disrespect to you boys; you're just an extreme example).

That sort of argument is derivative and useless.

If the dog hadn't have stopped for a p1ss it wouldn't have been hit by the car.

[iTap]

no, i dont go into opposition club rooms after a game

Scared? Or just a tight arse?

[The Tiger's Nuts]

Probably both.

Tigernuts

[reilly]

And if not for scoring fewer points, conceding too many, and not winning enough games UHSVU would be flag favourites. (No disrespect to you boys; you're just an extreme example).

That sort of argument is derivative and useless.

If the dog hadn't have stopped for a p1ss it wouldn't have been hit by the car.

Your not seriuos are you? clearly looks to me that elsternwick were the dominate side on the day. And im just bringing up some points, which clearly you know are very worthy points. And all you can come up with is some dripple...your clutching at straws mate.

[knackers_2]

Your not seriuos are you? clearly looks to me that elsternwick were the dominate side on the day. And im just bringing up some points, which clearly you know are very worthy points. And all you can come up with is some dripple...your clutching at straws mate.

I have no doubt you are trying to say something relevant here, reilly, but your horrible spelling and insipid punctuation shrouds your point with a thick cloud of confusion.

As far as WB v EW goes, both teams appear to have a considerable home ground advantage. WB took care of EW comfortably in the end the first time, while EW dominated the 3rd quarter (8.8) and won comfortably on the return leg. Agreed that EW had significantly more scoring shots in the round 13 clash than WB had in round 4:

Round 4 - WB27 scoring shots to 20 - (WB won by 37 points)
Round 13 - EW39 to 21 - (EW won by 38 points)

May this have had something to do with Elsternwick's ground being small enough to allow shots at goal from the centre square?

I can't see that happening at Cheltenham.

[reilly]

I have no doubt you are trying to say something relevant here, reilly, but your horrible spelling and insipid punctuation shrouds your point with a thick cloud of confusion.

As far as WB v EW goes, both teams appear to have a considerable home ground advantage. WB took care of EW comfortably in the end the first time, while EW dominated the 3rd quarter (8.8) and won comfortably on the return leg. Agreed that EW had significantly more scoring shots in the round 13 clash than WB had in round 4:

Round 4 - WB27 scoring shots to 20 - (WB won by 37 points)
Round 13 - EW39 to 21 - (EW won by 38 points)

May this have had something to do with Elsternwick's ground being small enough to allow shots at goal from the centre square?

I can't see that happening at Cheltenham.

Sorry, forgot i was writing an english exam here.

[Ratfink]

Didn't Elsternwick win the D4 GF at Cheltenham last year? Wouldn't seem that the ground holds any fears for them, rather the opposite in fact.

1 Sth Melb and 1 Bentleigh player suspended at tribunal last night.

[knackers_2]

1 Sth Melb and 1 Bentleigh player suspended at tribunal last night.

Any idea who? or for how long? The tribunal have been known to go a little bit troppo coming into the business end of the season.

[The Tiger's Nuts]

Any idea who? or for how long? The tribunal have been known to go a little bit troppo coming into the business end of the season.

Wade D'Andrea, South Melbourne Districts. Headbutting, 4 matches.
Wade D'Andrea, South Melbourne Districts. Misconduct, 4 matches.

Charles McFadden, Bentleigh. Striking, 2 matches.

Some people just seem determined not to play finals...

Tigernuts

[knackers_2]

Wade D'Andrea, South Melbourne Districts. Headbutting, 4 matches.
Wade D'Andrea, South Melbourne Districts. Misconduct, 4 matches.

Charles McFadden, Bentleigh. Striking, 2 matches.

Some people just seem determined not to play finals...

Tigernuts

The big question is: will Bentleigh throw the first final to let McFadden play in the GF?

[collinsr]

Wade D'Andrea, South Melbourne Districts. Headbutting, 4 matches.
Wade D'Andrea, South Melbourne Districts. Misconduct, 4 matches.

Charles McFadden, Bentleigh. Striking, 2 matches.

Some people just seem determined not to play finals...

Tigernuts

8 weeks?? Must have been serious, does anyone know what the misconduct charge was for??

[reilly]

The big question is: will Bentleigh throw the first final to let McFadden play in the GF?

I do not think so! There is more to a team than one player. A player i have never heard of.

[dave31]

8 weeks?? Must have been serious, does anyone know what the misconduct charge was for??

I believe it was for biting.

[The Hunter]

I wonder if it was for biting "Fish" Whiting.

Charge: Reported for biting Whiting!

I believe it was for biting.

[knackers_2]

Charge: Reported for biting Whiting!

Either biting Whiting or citing fighting.

[Red Gum]

Your not seriuos are you? Im just bringing up some points, which clearly you know are very worthy points. And all you can come up with is some dripple...your clutching at straws mate.

I'm actually impressed Reilly, this is about the most sensible contribution you've made to the forum.

My point is that an innaccurate side can dominate a game and still lose. If Elsternwick dominate WB in the finals but are too inaccurate to gain full advantage on the scoreboard their dominance is meaningless.

The only statistic that will matter Sunday evening is the final score.

[Red Gum]

The big question is: will Bentleigh throw the first final to let McFadden play in the GF?

It would be a huge risk and pretty cocky

[Red Gum]

Either biting Whiting or citing fighting.

You're a poet and I didn't even... realise.

[Mark Harvey]

Scared? Or just a tight arse?

a bit of both spud No 2

[mcglede]

VAFA vote count. Leading vote getters by club:

BENTLEIGH- James Robertson
ELSTERNWICK AFC- Craig Mahony
KEW AFC- Craig Horne
MONASH GRYPHONS- Nicholas Rutherford
OLD WESTBOURNE- Gary Walker
STH MELB DIST- Steven Aquilina
ST MARYS AFC- Cameron Armstrong
SWINBURNE UNI- James Gordon
UHS-VU AFC- Shane Cracknell
WEST BRUNSWICK- Bill Irving

[iTap]

VAFA vote count. Leading vote getters by club:

BENTLEIGH- James Robertson
ELSTERNWICK AFC- Craig Mahony
KEW AFC- Craig Horne
MONASH GRYPHONS- Nicholas Rutherford
OLD WESTBOURNE- Gary Walker
STH MELB DIST- Steven Aquilina
ST MARYS AFC- Cameron Armstrong
SWINBURNE UNI- James Gordon
UHS-VU AFC- Shane Cracknell
WEST BRUNSWICK- Bill Irving

could we have this list translated into nicknames so I might have a better idea who the hell any of them are?

[bigw]

8 weeks?? Must have been serious, does anyone know what the misconduct charge was for??The OW bloke belted the SM bloke. As a result a blue started during which some retalliation occurred, but the SM player was reported for incidents involving another OW player. Long story short, the umpire saw nothing, but OW saw fit to lodge their own report and the tribunal took them at their word. 8 weeks is a tough penaly for a 'his word against mine' report.

[big_man]

Your not seriuos are you? clearly looks to me that elsternwick were the dominate side on the day. And im just bringing up some points, which clearly you know are very worthy points. And all you can come up with is some dripple...your clutching at straws mate.

surely you don't think anyones actually taking you seriously any more reilly?? if a team kicks so many points, wouldn't you say indicates a lack of skill?

but nevertheless i think you're right - elsternwick will win convincingly this weekend. no disrespect to WB.. but i believe sths & wicks are a cut above Bentleigh & WB.. and they will fight out the grannie

[harper]

The OW bloke belted the SM bloke. As a result a blue started during which some retalliation occurred, but the SM player was reported for incidents involving another OW player. Long story short, the umpire saw nothing, but OW saw fit to lodge their own report and the tribunal took them at their word. 8 weeks is a tough penaly for a 'his word against mine' report.

Old West would have to be the lowest bunch pricks i've ever seen pretend they are footy club. Massive loss of respect from many in the football world. LOW DOGS.

[The Tiger's Nuts]

So headbutting and biting is OK as long as the ump doesn't see it and nobody tells, huh?

I go the other way - I tend to have a massive loss of respect for the morons who think its ever so tough and manly to indulge in behaviour that, off the footy field, would see them up on assault charges.

On one hand, Harper, people can say yah boo hiss LOW DOGS for snitching, but please keep in mind that others think its right to speak up to stop abuse and thuggery from gaining acceptance in the ammos. It doesn't take many mouse clicks away from this forum to find leagues where it is accepted and tolerated.

Footy isn't a pansy sport, it is a tough physical game. Free kicks and reports are there to help keep onfield behaviour within certain boundaries. If the adrenalin is rushing and people can't control their aggression, then they should be bitchslapped back into line either at the time or on Tuesday night - and they should be man enough to own up to doing wrong and taking whats coming to them. They don't need peanuts encouraging silence on the issue.

So; are you saying that, since OW did the report and are LOW DOGS,
a) headbutting and biting shouldn't be reported, or
b) if the ump saw it and black carded the guy the ump would be a LOW DOG too

Either way, your argument doesn't stack up.

I go along to the footy to enjoy the footy. I guess that puts me in the pillow-biting low-dog-apologist head-ducking minority. Such is life.

Tigernuts

[oldtimer]

Old West would have to be the lowest bunch pricks i've ever seen pretend they are footy club. Massive loss of respect from many in the football world. LOW DOGS.

Bezerk, didn't you have a go at a Kew player about 8 weeks ago. You said that it was a low act and and a disgrace that someone would dob someone in at the tribunal. Haven't heard your comments on this yet.

[berzerk22]

Bezerk, didn't you have a go at a Kew player about 8 weeks ago. You said that it was a low act and and a disgrace that someone would dob someone in at the tribunal. Haven't heard your comments on this yet.

The Kew player i mentioned actually lied to get a guy weeks. Said a slap was a punch, that his jaw still hurt etc, etc.

Biting is something different altogether and from what i understand the player was just calling it as it was! A totally unacceptable act on a footy field!

To be brutally honest if it was an OW player doing the biting I'd be happy to see him get weeks if he did it.

My point from earlier on was that the Kew player had embelished his story to get our player weeks .... again totally unacceptable.

I am actually oif the belief that we should not expect that players lie to protect other players, but surely lying to put them in it would not be condoned by ANY club????

[Old Warrior]

Old West would have to be the lowest bunch pricks i've ever seen pretend they are footy club. Massive loss of respect from many in the football world. LOW DOGS.

There's some things that are not acceptable on the footy field - biting is one of them. The finger was bitten hard enough that skin was broken and blood started flowing. HIV and Hepatitis tests take three months to know the result. This player with a young family has been and continues to wait very nervously on the results. Harper, do you think this is a reasonable situation to be in playing ammo's footy or something that should not be tolerated within our league? I'm curious on other people's views on this also.

[oldtimer]

The Kew player i mentioned actually lied to get a guy weeks. Said a slap was a punch, that his jaw still hurt etc, etc.

Biting is something different altogether and from what i understand the player was just calling it as it was! A totally unacceptable act on a footy field!

To be brutally honest if it was an OW player doing the biting I'd be happy to see him get weeks if he did it.

My point from earlier on was that the Kew player had embelished his story to get our player weeks .... again totally unacceptable.

I am actually oif the belief that we should not expect that players lie to protect other players, but surely lying to put them in it would not be condoned by ANY club????

Whose to say that the slap was a punch or vice versa. That was one person's word against another. In this situation it was OW word against the SM player. Tribunal found SM guilty same as in the OW / KEW situation. Obviously the charge is different but the situation is the same.

[harper]

So headbutting and biting is OK as long as the ump doesn't see it and nobody tells, huh?

Tigernuts

Tigernuts, I do not condone the use of headbutts and biting on any sportsfield. The problem I have with this incident is the way it has been handled by OW and the VAFA.

If you don't now the details of what happened on the ground that day "big w" has given a brief summary earlier on this thread.
This is what I saw from where I stood. SM player is punched in the BACK of the head by more than one OW player, SM players retaliates causeing a wrestle (i think the VAFA rules would call it a melee, although no umpire's report was submitted as these type of jumper punching tangos occur in most quarters of most games). Let's say a headbut was thrown, to my knowledge no injury occured and no umpire report. As for the biting, an OW player was bitten on the finger. What was his finger doing in the mouth of an opposition player?, was he trying to get a position to eye gauge or just trying to rip a blokes head off. Either way the SM player did not go out of his way to bite, he was in a struggle and was being hit in the head, I think most blokes jaws may go tense in this situation.

I'm sure someone from OW will post a different version of events and thats cool, as i've already said headbutts and biting should be reported as well as coathangers, punches, kicks and dissent to umpires.

What s h i t s me the most about this is that the guys who are paid to rule on a game, the umpires, saw no need to take any further action than sending off the players involved. Cop it on the chin and come back on in 15.

To take it further s h i t s in the face of the feild umpires adjudicating that day. If the umpire had of "black carded" any player that day with a report then fair enough cop that on the chin and come back in 2-8 weeks.

Tigernuts, I too enjoy going to the footy and I enjoy playing the game. No one goes on a feild that I know to deliberatly hurt another player. I have copped my share of late and high whacks but always believed that any free kick or punishment dished out should be given by the men and woman controlling the game. The umpires. To go above them to try an gain "justice" or "revenge" is what I refer to as a low act performed by low dogs.

[Red Gum]

As for the biting, an OW player was bitten on the finger. What was his finger doing in the mouth of an opposition player?, was he trying to get a position to eye gauge or just trying to rip a blokes head off. Either way the SM player did not go out of his way to bite, he was in a struggle and was being hit in the head, I think most blokes jaws may go tense in this situation.

That's comedy gold!

I can't believe Scotland didn't get weeks for elbowing Didak's shoulder. What was his head doing there in the first place. And how dare JFK put his head in the way of Lee Harvey Oswald's bullet? (conspiracy theories aside)

I think we know when your jaw goes tense.

[iTap]

That's comedy gold!

I can't believe Scotland didn't get weeks for elbowing Didak's shoulder. What was his head doing there in the first place. And how dare JFK put his head in the way of Lee Harvey Oswald's bullet? (conspiracy theories aside)

I think we know when your jaw goes tense.

You may welcome blokes sticking bits of their person in your mouth, but some people resent it and can react violently.

[collinsr]

ratting out players in the lowest act you can do in footy, I'm sure those OW blokes weren't entirely innocent....

the only other person I can remember that has done this in the ammos was Boyce....says alot about OW if they have choosen to take that path!!

Good luck in the twos OW

[knackers_2]

the only other person I can remember that has done this in the ammos was Boyce....says alot about OW if they have choosen to take that path!!

Good luck in the twos OW

It all comes back to Boyce...

No one wants their mouth to be fingered, and similarly you should expect to play footy without being bitten.

I can't believe there have been posts suggesting that those officiating matches in D3 are in control for most of the time - but on the other hand, 8 weeks resulting from a 'his word against mine' situation opens up a Pandora's Box for the VAFA tribunal.

[collinsr]

[quote=knackers_2]It all comes back to Boyce...

In this case is does...i'm almost certain the reason Leigh Murphy smacked him at Presentation night that time was because Boyce put in a similiar report to ammos and he was rubbed out for 8 weeks, his word against his word!!

[chase]

[quote=knackers_2]It all comes back to Boyce...

In this case is does...i'm almost certain the reason Leigh Murphy smacked him at Presentation night that time was because Boyce put in a similiar report to ammos and he was rubbed out for 8 weeks, his word against his word!!

- In this case the bloke murphy was meant to of hit wasn't even in the country

[bigw]

So headbutting and biting is OK as long as the ump doesn't see it and nobody tells, huh?

I go the other way - I tend to have a massive loss of respect for the morons who think its ever so tough and manly to indulge in behaviour that, off the footy field, would see them up on assault charges.

On one hand, Harper, people can say yah boo hiss LOW DOGS for snitching, but please keep in mind that others think its right to speak up to stop abuse and thuggery from gaining acceptance in the ammos. It doesn't take many mouse clicks away from this forum to find leagues where it is accepted and tolerated.

Footy isn't a pansy sport, it is a tough physical game. Free kicks and reports are there to help keep onfield behaviour within certain boundaries. If the adrenalin is rushing and people can't control their aggression, then they should be bitchslapped back into line either at the time or on Tuesday night - and they should be man enough to own up to doing wrong and taking whats coming to them. They don't need peanuts encouraging silence on the issue.

So; are you saying that, since OW did the report and are LOW DOGS,
a) headbutting and biting shouldn't be reported, or
b) if the ump saw it and black carded the guy the ump would be a LOW DOG too

Either way, your argument doesn't stack up.

I go along to the footy to enjoy the footy. I guess that puts me in the pillow-biting low-dog-apologist head-ducking minority. Such is life.

Tigernuts A well articulated argument, but there were extenuating circumstances. The SM player wasn't being a thug. He'd been knocked out by a thuggish act (2 weeks was all that was worth) and was in the thick of a melee in which he was out numbered. Unfortunately the primal instincts kicked in and unacceptabelk incidents occurred. The bloke didn't just walk up and commit these acts, they were in the midst of a full on attack. Personally I would not have acted the same way in response, but you have to take into account what was going on at the time, and I'm sure OW didn't explain that. Their version would have been a lovely gathering that was suddenly trashed by a psycho headbutting and biting all in his path. The penalties should have been the other way around and if you are going to snitch then at least tell the whole truth even if it paints your own club in a bad light.

[knackers_2]

- In this case the bloke murphy was meant to of hit wasn't even in the country

Boyce wasn't in the country when Murphy hit him at the 2000 presentation dinner? Murphy's got a pretty good reach, but I doubt it is THAT good

[Archangel17]

My only question would be to all - How was the finger bitten?
To me that is the most important question.
If that finger was deliberately in the SM players mouth, then he had every right to bite it in self defence though stupid this may be.( i have seen the result of fishhooks and the like and they are not pretty) However if he chomped freely on an errant finger, then things swing the other way and the book should be thrown at him.

To me the actual suspension times suggest that the Ammos think there was much more to the situation, but unable to do more about it. I feel he would have gone for at least twice the time if they thought he was purely to blame, and that they were cornered into the judgement they gave.