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Kings Army

7 Aug 2006, 12:27

what or who were the differences in the 2 sides yesterday KA? did Serge out-coach or did his boys simply out play the Redan lads?

I was impressed with Redan - fully fit they are the best side in the comp.

Sunbury kicked the 1st 4 goals and looked like Sunbury were going to smack them yesterday. Redan's 1st 3 goals came fom soft free kicks.

When Redan lead going into the last and kicking with the wind I thought they would get up. Lewis and Griffen had a great last quater to drag Sunbury over the line. I thought Serge had a great last quater and has been a better coach since hurting his knee.

Sunbury will finish 4th now and have a tough run to get any where near this years premiership. Melton is the big fraud - will finish 3rd and get a soft final against Ballarat.

gault

7 Aug 2006, 14:57

I was impressed with Redan - fully fit they are the best side in the comp.

Sunbury kicked the 1st 4 goals and looked like Sunbury were going to smack them yesterday. Redan's 1st 3 goals came fom soft free kicks.

When Redan lead going into the last and kicking with the wind I thought they would get up. Lewis and Griffen had a great last quater to drag Sunbury over the line. I thought Serge had a great last quater and has been a better coach since hurting his knee.

Sunbury will finish 4th now and have a tough run to get any where near this years premiership. Melton is the big fraud - will finish 3rd and get a soft final against Ballarat.

interesting serge said that about blommely. couldn't agree more, most over rated player going around. never hand passes when 60% of the time he should, he is just lucky he is quick enough to get away with running in a big arc but in the end hurts the team by not dishing off to a player running forward. also when i watched redan play east point the first time the msg at quarter time was simple from east's coach 'if you get near nath blommely put him down and make him feel it cause he's a sheep dog and hates it tough'. sure he looks good cause he kicks it a long way and can out run most blokes in the league but anyone can just bomb it long to a pack.

smasher100

7 Aug 2006, 15:47

learmonth

7 Aug 2006, 17:25

interesting serge said that about blommely. couldn't agree more, most over rated player going around. never hand passes when 60% of the time he should, he is just lucky he is quick enough to get away with running in a big arc but in the end hurts the team by not dishing off to a player running forward. also when i watched redan play east point the first time the msg at quarter time was simple from east's coach 'if you get near nath blommely put him down and make him feel it cause he's a sheep dog and hates it tough'. sure he looks good cause he kicks it a long way and can out run most blokes in the league but anyone can just bomb it long to a pack.

Blomely is a star!!! tall quick and skillful, but is an outside player. U dont make the state side if your an average player. I have heard there are talent scouts that are looking at him. The way the game is played now, it certainly suits his style of play.
People continually question his ticker, but come finals he will be a match winner. Great win by Sunbury against an undermanned Redan, but u can only beat whats in front of u.
Redans Backline is thee strength along with their midfield. Weakness is the forward line as already stated. Just imagine if Walsh and Molloy were there..
Still tipping Redan to beat East point in the G/F

simplesimon

7 Aug 2006, 18:28

gault

7 Aug 2006, 22:00

from what ive seen Blomely is a very good player, maybe a little 1 dimensional though? only ever plays on a wing from what i know and have seen. can he play in the midfield? can he go forward and take a grab?

good good player, must be to make the VCFL side.

has plenty of potential and i was probably to harsh on him before. is quite good over head but it just ****es me off when he never dishes off handballs to players in better position, there is talk about him getting drafted after leigh colbert said he is the kinda player who could step up to afl but i beleive he has along way to go but then again leigh colbert would know more than me.
one player who should get drafted is ryan harris from ballarat out and out freak and surely has to be rated in the top few players in the BFL

ryang

7 Aug 2006, 22:23

I was impressed with Redan - fully fit they are the best side in the comp.

Sunbury kicked the 1st 4 goals and looked like Sunbury were going to smack them yesterday. Redan's 1st 3 goals came fom soft free kicks.

When Redan lead going into the last and kicking with the wind I thought they would get up. Lewis and Griffen had a great last quater to drag Sunbury over the line. I thought Serge had a great last quater and has been a better coach since hurting his knee.

Sunbury will finish 4th now and have a tough run to get any where near this years premiership. Melton is the big fraud - will finish 3rd and get a soft final against Ballarat.
Agree that Melton is the big fraud, therefore I would say that Ballarat are the ones getting the soft final! Let's face it, East Point, Redan and Sunbury are a class above the rest. Darley capable of claiming a scalp, but hard to see them beating Sunbury in a sudden death final.

Derby103

7 Aug 2006, 22:29

Kings Army

8 Aug 2006, 11:53

I attended the Sunbury-Redan match on Sunday (my 1st BFL game) and thought the standard was very good. But I was also puzzled by the man (and two little girls) playing a full drum-kit just outside the boundary fence during the game. Does anyone have an explanation for this? Because I've seen a lot of football over the years, but I've never seen that before.

I have not seen it beofre as well - I thought it was great. They sat with the wind at their backs so the drum beat could be heard over the whole ground. It was a mini cheer squard with Readn flags and the kids dressed in full Redan out fits.

After each goal or when Redan started to press the drums would start up. Great support for the team I would think!:thumbsu: :thumbsu:

Thats_Special

8 Aug 2006, 13:06

I have not seen it beofre as well - I thought it was great. They sat with the wind at their backs so the drum beat could be heard over the whole ground. It was a mini cheer squard with Readn flags and the kids dressed in full Redan out fits.

After each goal or when Redan started to press the drums would start up. Great support for the team I would think!:thumbsu: :thumbsu:

Most annoying thing I have heard at a game of football... Apart from a Collingwood supporter....

learmonth

8 Aug 2006, 16:15

I attended the Sunbury-Redan match on Sunday (my 1st BFL game) and thought the standard was very good. But I was also puzzled by the man (and two little girls) playing a full drum-kit just outside the boundary fence during the game. Does anyone have an explanation for this? Because I've seen a lot of football over the years, but I've never seen that before.

Gary Coburn is the guys name (used to be an umpire in the BFL) who runs it and he organises school kids to do it. Been doing it for about 4 years (1st G/F against Sunbury) and it annoys them greatly.
When there in front he doesnt stop, good atmosphere, but very annoying.. I can tell u, it wont be the last time u here them...

DarthAnnihl8or

8 Aug 2006, 16:51

one player who should get drafted is ryan harris from ballarat out and out freak and surely has to be rated in the top few players in the BFL

Ryan Harris has been down to the Richmond rooms and met with Terry Wallace this year. He is easily good enough for the chance, at least as a rookie list player. I'd have him at Essendon without even thinking about it.

ryang

8 Aug 2006, 17:11

I attended the Sunbury-Redan match on Sunday (my 1st BFL game) and thought the standard was very good. But I was also puzzled by the man (and two little girls) playing a full drum-kit just outside the boundary fence during the game. Does anyone have an explanation for this? Because I've seen a lot of football over the years, but I've never seen that before.
Be assured that after the first two or three times you've seen it the novelty well and truly wears thin and it becomes distracting and annoying. Are you sure that's his name learmonth? I thought it was Grenville or Greville or something like it.

learmonth

8 Aug 2006, 17:21

Be assured that after the first two or three times you've seen it the novelty well and truly wears thin and it becomes distracting and annoying. Are you sure that's his name learmonth? I thought it was Grenville or Greville or something like it.

Spot on ryang..Its gary greville...Had him mixed up with another umpire, but it is very annoying...Have had to play through it myself on numerous occassions.... I believe someone from Sunbury, broke his sticks in a final a few years ago....quite funny...

Vineyard

9 Aug 2006, 22:03

Spot on ryang..Its gary greville...Had him mixed up with another umpire, but it is very annoying...Have had to play through it myself on numerous occassions.... I believe someone from Sunbury, broke his sticks in a final a few years ago....quite funny...

Darley boys got into him this year as well apparently about banging his drums and copped the club a fine.

does anyone rate ballarat a chance. Well coached but are they to young to compete? might over run a tired old redan in they managed to make it that far come finals but cant see them beating east. Why did redan rest so many big guns in an important game. is that arrogance?

have also heard to punish blomely at all times but you have to catch him. will be a certainty in the BFL team of year. Anyone else have certainties for the team. Jordan, hutchinson, peace, field, edwards, waight would also be in. Anyone from sunbury or the eastern block.

goalposts

10 Aug 2006, 11:22

gault

10 Aug 2006, 14:38

Just a query if anyone can answer...Just wondering whether Matt Rice who played or was affiliated with Redan last year played any games for the Under 18's or seniors at any stage. He is now playing with Boort.

Matty played under 18s in 2004 for redan. playing on wing went real well and came 3rd in the b &f. didnt play last yr due to his Osteitis and is now back at boort this yr

ryang

10 Aug 2006, 23:03

Darley boys got into him this year as well apparently about banging his drums and copped the club a fine.

does anyone rate ballarat a chance. Well coached but are they to young to compete? might over run a tired old redan in they managed to make it that far come finals but cant see them beating east. Why did redan rest so many big guns in an important game. is that arrogance?

have also heard to punish blomely at all times but you have to catch him. will be a certainty in the BFL team of year. Anyone else have certainties for the team. Jordan, hutchinson, peace, field, edwards, waight would also be in. Anyone from sunbury or the eastern block.
Porter from Melton and if I was picking the side Travis Stephenson would be one of my first picks. Ayres Rock with stripes!

simplesimon

11 Aug 2006, 12:23

Vineyard

11 Aug 2006, 23:49

you've picked and named half the side vineyard with some serious conviction. sounds to me like you are a selector.
would you have any Bacchus Marsh, Darley, Melton, Sunbury or Melton South players in the side?

Not a selector simple but a keen follower:

Bacchus Marsh: Only brett connors is a chance

Darley: Stephenson, Cox, Miller, Cape & Parker

Melton: Berger, Porter and maybe Tuddy Edwards

Sunbury: Brown, Lewis or griffin. Tim little maybe but doesnt play in the ruck enough.

Melton South: Reardon and sutton if he played a full year.

dont know lakers, ballarat or sebas players

stanleyy

13 Aug 2006, 09:13

I didn't see Troy Scoble's name from Darley in the team of the year Vineyard ,your thoughts on his year by all reports he has been playing very well.:thumbsu:

mooney

14 Aug 2006, 14:15

Scoble ha ha on ya darren

Vineyard

14 Aug 2006, 16:33

Scoble ha ha on ya darren

Scoble from Darley would be the Assistant Coach as part of the all conquering "Combination" which has been dubbed from the 18's interleague success.

Not sure who would coach?

Is there a bigger hoodoo in the league than Darley vs the Lakers. Every year they lose to them no matter what position on the ladder.

simplesimon

14 Aug 2006, 17:08

sounds like Darley have let another chance slip. they are their own worst enemy by all accounts.
can coach Power & super assistant Scoble get them up and performing over the next month??
good to see the panthers get revenge on the Cobras. very tough year for both clubs.

ryang

14 Aug 2006, 18:05

Scoble from Darley would be the Assistant Coach as part of the all conquering "Combination" which has been dubbed from the 18's interleague success.

Not sure who would coach?

Is there a bigger hoodoo in the league than Darley vs the Lakers. Every year they lose to them no matter what position on the ladder.
Yeah can't work that result out. Redan have the wood on Darley too, just as Darley always beat South. Lakers struggle against Melton too.

Bobby Giovanni

15 Aug 2006, 12:11

How has Benny Reus been this year? Is he still captain at the Lakers?

Vineyard

15 Aug 2006, 12:45

Is there a more hated /hit player in the league than Banwell from East Point.

Know of at least 2 players to be suspended for hitting him and 3 others to do it and get away with it.

What is his problem.

mooney

15 Aug 2006, 13:56

Seems to me there could be a few coaching jobs up for grabs come the end of the year seems to me South, Bacchus Marsh, Lakers, Sebas, Darley and maybe Melton will have new coaches in 2007 anyone got any thoughts or inside info on who might fill these roles???

simplesimon

15 Aug 2006, 15:12

Didnt Melton South already appoint Travis Chapman for 2007?

mooney

15 Aug 2006, 15:22

I heard he was only on trial for the last 5 games and then the club would decide wheather he was the man for the job.

stanleyy

15 Aug 2006, 15:43

could there be another possum in the phone box @ melton south by seasons end?

simplesimon

15 Aug 2006, 17:18

becoming a popular phone box at Melton Sth.

cockroach

16 Aug 2006, 10:57

becoming a popular phone box at Melton Sth.
is there any interest at the moment in the south coaching position ??

Kings Army

16 Aug 2006, 11:32

could there be another possum in the phone box @ melton south by seasons end?

What does that mean?

Pinky Panther

16 Aug 2006, 14:11

where does the coach of sunbury get off saying redan has a suspect backline apart from snibson and lubeek in todays courier. matthew pitt is one of the most rock solid defenders ive ever seen. not to mention the likes of king, peace etc. does anyone else think redans backline is suspect or is it just that bloke?

i suppose next power will get off bagging east points back line. why doesn't he start to get his side going and follow in the footsteps pf murrihy and fisher.

marbles_r_red_2

16 Aug 2006, 14:22

i suppose next power will get off bagging east points back line. why doesn't he start to get his side going and follow in the footsteps pf murrihy and fisher.
power has always been one to open his mouth and make stupid comments agree he should worry about his own side which i watched the other week and they were far from impressive to many glamour boys in sunbury line up the ques for the mirrors after the game would be as long as ques for womens toilets on oaks day !

Kings Army

16 Aug 2006, 14:54

BFL teams vow to pop each other's bubble in clash
Tuesday, 15 August 2006
EAST Point coach Shane Fisher has warned that his side would not be intimidated against Sunbury in this Saturday's Ballarat Football League clash, with one of the team's bubbles set to pop.
Fisher and his counterpart Mark Power are expecting a fierce contest at Clarke Oval - similar to what the teams dished up in round eight at the Eastern Oval.
But Fisher said his Red Lion Kangaroos would, like every week, be ready to cope with some physical attention and just as willing to hand it out.
"There are a few sides that are a bit more physical than others and Sunbury certainly plays that style. And it's a good style of footy because it can intimidate players. But we're over the intimidation thing," he said.
A strong rivalry has developed between the sides this season as the Kangaroos have snatched the mantle of the league's powerhouse side from Sunbury.
East Point surged to victory against the Lions with nine quick-fire goals in the final term to win earlier the season, forcing the outspoken Power to eat his words.
Power had predicted leading into that match that his side was going to "pop East Point's bubble".
The match was marred with behind-the-play brawling and, Fisher claimed, unfair targeting of full-forward Dan Jordan.
The top-of-the-table Kangaroos will be just as keen to pop Sunbury's bubble this Saturday, with the Lions entering the match on a six-game winning streak.
Power played down the form of his Lions yesterday, saying East Point remained the team to beat for the premiership.
"There's only one team that has a bubble to pop and that's East point," he said.
"We still have a few players out and a few to come back from injury, so we're not as ready at the moment than what we will be come finals."
Power said he learned only one thing from his side's 16-point loss in round eight.
"What I learnt was there was a guy called (Kieran) Drum who ran off the square about six times and nailed a few of our onballers. I dare say it's going to happen again," he said.
Power's biggest concern is on who he will play on the Jordan.
The league's premier forward has booted a total of 25 goals in his past two outings on the way to 100 for the season.
Key defender Simon Clarke is believed to be suffering with a hamstring problem, while usual full-back Alan O'Connor is about to head overseas this week.
Power revealed yesterday that O'Connor had played his last game this season.
"It's very disappointing, but we've known all along he was going to go overseas," he said.
"The big question is how do we stop Mr Jordan. But I will say the same thing, if Jordan kicks 10 goals I will come out and say I'm a bad coach.
"He's a quality player but you can stop him with a quality backman."
Fisher was sure Sunbury would have a plan for Jordan.
"Knowing Power, having played with him, he will have a few tricks up his sleeve."

Kings Army

16 Aug 2006, 14:55

power has always been one to open his mouth and make stupid comments agree he should worry about his own side which i watched the other week and they were far from impressive to many glamour boys in sunbury line up the ques for the mirrors after the game would be as long as ques for womens toilets on oaks day !

They have won 6 in a row - which other week are you talking about?

Vineyard

16 Aug 2006, 15:11

i suppose next power will get off bagging east points back line. why doesn't he start to get his side going and follow in the footsteps pf murrihy and fisher.

Easts backline isnt as strong as Redan's. I think Sunbury might roll East this week after some response from the intimidation factor and then have knocked the top two teams off.

All three sides down the freeway playing in finals know that East arent a tough side and do take a sideways look when it comes to the crunch. not all players but more than should.

O'Connor is a massive loss for sunbury though.

Vineyard

16 Aug 2006, 15:12

Congratulations to Travis Chapman to win his first game as coach of Melton South. Better than Shanks already.

Who are the possums????

mooney

16 Aug 2006, 15:37

Is it true that Shanks has got the coaching gig at Albion in the WRFL next year??? If so i'm staggered have they had a look at his coaching record???? Not very impressive......

simplesimon

16 Aug 2006, 16:24

Congratulations to Travis Chapman to win his first game as coach of Melton South. Better than Shanks already.

Who are the possums????

great work by Trav to get a win. lots of talk about his coaching staff for 2007 going on i believe.

possum & the phone box - vineyard you may have to ask Travis Chapman about that one.

cockroach

16 Aug 2006, 16:34

great work by Trav to get a win. lots of talk about his coaching staff for 2007 going on i believe.

possum & the phone box - vineyard you may have to ask Travis Chapman about that one.
the phone box at Melton South is stacked by the sounds of things
the rumours are floating around
maybe M sproule will be back after a good year @ the groove ?
or is there another proven coach ready to take over 2007

learmonth

16 Aug 2006, 16:46

Congratulations to Travis Chapman to win his first game as coach of Melton South. Better than Shanks already.

Who are the possums????

Your got to be kiddin yourself..???? He beat B'Marsh the worst side ever to play in the BFL. Lost easily to Lakers. Time will only tell if he can coach at that level. Good to see Sutton pull the boots on against another struggling opposition. Great player, but needs to start playing in games that count. Though kicking 10 against Sunbury is a great effort.
M'South are a joke in the way the club is ran, and will continue to struggle and live in the shadows of the BLOODS!
Power has the right to say what he wishes as he is a star, and u only become one over consistency in the footy world and he has been brilliant for 10 + Years.
I hope Sunbury Smash East/Point- Weak as pi ss for merging and are after a cheap flag. STill my tip is Redan...

Pinky Panther

16 Aug 2006, 17:25

Your got to be kiddin yourself..???? He beat B'Marsh the worst side ever to play in the BFL. Lost easily to Lakers. Time will only tell if he can coach at that level. Good to see Sutton pull the boots on against another struggling opposition. Great player, but needs to start playing in games that count. Though kicking 10 against Sunbury is a great effort.
M'South are a joke in the way the club is ran, and will continue to struggle and live in the shadows of the BLOODS!
Power has the right to say what he wishes as he is a star, and u only become one over consistency in the footy world and he has been brilliant for 10 + Years.
I hope Sunbury Smash East/Point- Weak as pi ss for merging and are after a cheap flag. STill my tip is Redan...

from what i have seen of sunbury and beeing a past player of the club, they are to slow.their players hate the coaching staff and also fight with each other. i too think redan will win the flag but cut out this merger crap as being weak as ****. its better to have half of a club than none at all and believe east point deserve credit and if you dont you surely must have a grudge against them.

stanleyy

16 Aug 2006, 20:08

What does that mean?u may have to ask mr shanks that question.

Pinky Panther

17 Aug 2006, 12:02

Easts backline isnt as strong as Redan's. I think Sunbury might roll East this week after some response from the intimidation factor and then have knocked the top two teams off.

All three sides down the freeway playing in finals know that East arent a tough side and do take a sideways look when it comes to the crunch. not all players but more than should.

O'Connor is a massive loss for sunbury though.

just wondering who steps side wards from east. will be watching them this week and am keen to see who.

also any one have any details on coach's as to next year. got a email about some ballarat clubs probally having a change.

redan- murrihy to assistant at north in VFL
east- fisher to mt gravatt in queensland
lakers- findlay to coach beaufort in chfl
sebas- rod gladman to coach

learmonth

17 Aug 2006, 12:40

just wondering who steps side wards from east. will be watching them this week and am keen to see who.

also any one have any details on coach's as to next year. got a email about some ballarat clubs probally having a change.

redan- murrihy to assistant at north in VFL
east- fisher to mt gravatt in queensland
lakers- findlay to coach beaufort in chfl
sebas- rod gladman to coach

Have heard Fisher is leaving and Hutchinson will take over...Dont rate fisher as a coach, excellent player with a great team, thats whats making him look good at the moment. Struggles in the tactics and when the pressure hits him he starts squealing and swearing, Signs that he cant handle pressure.
Sebas would be mad to appoint Gladman, everywhere he goes he fails and asks for massive $$$. In his coaching career, can u tell me where he left the club in a better state. Supposedly getting 18k at Gordon which is the biggest joke ever, how about taking 1/2 and putting the rest into recruiting some decent players... Supporters want success.
As said before Shane Robertson to Coach Sunbury and Keenan Reynolds to Coach Darley!!!!

learmonth

17 Aug 2006, 12:45

from what i have seen of sunbury and beeing a past player of the club, they are to slow.their players hate the coaching staff and also fight with each other. i too think redan will win the flag but cut out this merger crap as being weak as ****. its better to have half of a club than none at all and believe east point deserve credit and if you dont you surely must have a grudge against them.

Have been involved in a merger b4 myself and left the club, as i thought too many people took the easy option. East Ballarat and Golden Point should have looked at how Redan held strong and they are reaping the rewards now. Imagine Sunbury and Darley Merging... Would create a power house.. + East Point has 2 feeder clubs in the juniors..If they cant get success now they never will. Have also heard that they sold plenty of Golden Points assets to pay for players over the next few years... They will probably fold in the next 5 years as well, as the same incompetent people that led the other to clubs to merge are still in charge. Tough but fair call in my opinion!

simplesimon

17 Aug 2006, 13:08

Have heard Fisher is leaving and Hutchinson will take over...Dont rate fisher as a coach, excellent player with a great team, thats whats making him look good at the moment. Struggles in the tactics and when the pressure hits him he starts squealing and swearing, Signs that he cant handle pressure.
Sebas would be mad to appoint Gladman, everywhere he goes he fails and asks for massive $$$. In his coaching career, can u tell me where he left the club in a better state. Supposedly getting 18k at Gordon which is the biggest joke ever, how about taking 1/2 and putting the rest into recruiting some decent players... Supporters want success.
As said before Shane Robertson to Coach Sunbury and Keenan Reynolds to Coach Darley!!!!

If Shane Robbo coaches Sunbury & Keenan takes over at Darley, where are the 2 Power brothers heading?

simplesimon

17 Aug 2006, 13:11

Pinky Panther

17 Aug 2006, 14:09

Have heard Fisher is leaving and Hutchinson will take over...Dont rate fisher as a coach, excellent player with a great team, thats whats making him look good at the moment. Struggles in the tactics and when the pressure hits him he starts squealing and swearing, Signs that he cant handle pressure.
Sebas would be mad to appoint Gladman, everywhere he goes he fails and asks for massive $$$. In his coaching career, can u tell me where he left the club in a better state. Supposedly getting 18k at Gordon which is the biggest joke ever, how about taking 1/2 and putting the rest into recruiting some decent players... Supporters want success.
As said before Shane Robertson to Coach Sunbury and Keenan Reynolds to Coach Darley!!!!

yeah your spot on about gladman, can't coach and all he worries about is the cash. Seen east play a few times and think they are coached very well. will be a shame to see fisher head north qld. Have heard hutchinson will have 1 more years as assistant then perhaps caretaker coaches Canny and Lange to take over the reigns. The big one is Findlay and Nesbitt to go to Beaufort.

What are people's thoughts on the Lakers??

ryang

17 Aug 2006, 15:37

yeah your spot on about gladman, can't coach and all he worries about is the cash. Seen east play a few times and think they are coached very well. will be a shame to see fisher head north qld. Have heard hutchinson will have 1 more years as assistant then perhaps caretaker coaches Canny and Lange to take over the reigns. The big one is Findlay and Nesbitt to go to Beaufort.

What are people's thoughts on the Lakers??
Gladman on 8k at Gordon, pretty reasonable I would have thought. Would be surprising to say the least if Findlay and Nesbitt go to Beaufort. Findlay has been active talking to players to get them to Lakers next year.

Blues1995

17 Aug 2006, 16:45

Gladman on 8k at Gordon, pretty reasonable I would have thought. Would be surprising to say the least if Findlay and Nesbitt go to Beaufort. Findlay has been active talking to players to get them to Lakers next year.

Hi people just came accross this site and some very interesting items being discussed in the BFL thread, As a past player i have heard from a few oldies that their may be some major changes at Lakers next year right from the Top to Bottom, have heard that some familiar names bandied around like O'Connell, Simpson, Armstrong may be making some leadership and coaching challenges as they were not happy with their fall from grace as a club that prides itself as being a finals contender each year.

The Cattle you put on the park is a the major part of a team and they think that not enough focus was done in the off season to secure players and with the Dicketss matter being the final straw.

Lakers are a good club and will bonce back but their will be major changes next season that is my tip.

learmonth

17 Aug 2006, 16:54

Gladman on 8k at Gordon, pretty reasonable I would have thought. Would be surprising to say the least if Findlay and Nesbitt go to Beaufort. Findlay has been active talking to players to get them to Lakers next year.

Have to disagree with u ryang...Gladman is on b/t 15-18k. Said he was going to walk and go to Carnham Linton if he didnt get the pay rise... And on what grounds does he deserve it..???? Over paid.... Nesbitt wont leave Lakers... He still has things to prove

stanleyy

17 Aug 2006, 20:29

Have heard Fisher is leaving and Hutchinson will take over...Dont rate fisher as a coach, excellent player with a great team, thats whats making him look good at the moment. Struggles in the tactics and when the pressure hits him he starts squealing and swearing, Signs that he cant handle pressure.
Sebas would be mad to appoint Gladman, everywhere he goes he fails and asks for massive $$$. In his coaching career, can u tell me where he left the club in a better state. Supposedly getting 18k at Gordon which is the biggest joke ever, how about taking 1/2 and putting the rest into recruiting some decent players... Supporters want success.
As said before Shane Robertson to Coach Sunbury and Keenan Reynolds to Coach Darley!!!!i don't think shane robertson would get the gig @ sunbury as you can't wear moccasins in the social club,pretty stricked on footwear i believe.maybe he can apply @ craigieburn he'd fit right in with his brothers!

ryang

17 Aug 2006, 21:15

Have to disagree with u ryang...Gladman is on b/t 15-18k. Said he was going to walk and go to Carnham Linton if he didnt get the pay rise... And on what grounds does he deserve it..???? Over paid.... Nesbitt wont leave Lakers... He still has things to prove
Only going by what I was told on the money side learmonth and 8k for a playing coach these days is cheap. I know it's nothing to crow about but he is still the best player in the side and there is lot of work in coaching any footy club, let alone a basket case, so thats why I said its reasonable. I would agree with you if he is on 15-18, way too much for a bloke with a dodgy coaching record and past his best as a player. I hear they are really on the ropes out there, spent big on some players and most turned out to be complete duds. Don't know where they go to from here. I'm with you on Nesbitt too, heard he didn't think much of little brother cutting and running so can't see him doing the same thing. One bloke sure to be absent from Lakers next year is Maxwell. Reports in the paper said he was out 6 weeks ago with general soreness?? and hasn't been seen since. They were shopping him around b4 clearances closed but couldn't get any takers. Not popular up there.

Pinky Panther

18 Aug 2006, 08:57

Only going by what I was told on the money side learmonth and 8k for a playing coach these days is cheap. I know it's nothing to crow about but he is still the best player in the side and there is lot of work in coaching any footy club, let alone a basket case, so thats why I said its reasonable. I would agree with you if he is on 15-18, way too much for a bloke with a dodgy coaching record and past his best as a player. I hear they are really on the ropes out there, spent big on some players and most turned out to be complete duds. Don't know where they go to from here. I'm with you on Nesbitt too, heard he didn't think much of little brother cutting and running so can't see him doing the same thing. One bloke sure to be absent from Lakers next year is Maxwell. Reports in the paper said he was out 6 weeks ago with general soreness?? and hasn't been seen since. They were shopping him around b4 clearances closed but couldn't get any takers. Not popular up there.

Have watched a few Gordon games this year and I'm interested in who the dodgy recruits are? From what I've seen they have a good mix but with the high turnover of players, as is the case year after year at Gordon, they don't get a chance to put together a decent game plan. Aside from this I think confidence is an issue they may need to address.

Blues1995

18 Aug 2006, 10:08

Only going by what I was told on the money side learmonth and 8k for a playing coach these days is cheap. I know it's nothing to crow about but he is still the best player in the side and there is lot of work in coaching any footy club, let alone a basket case, so thats why I said its reasonable. I would agree with you if he is on 15-18, way too much for a bloke with a dodgy coaching record and past his best as a player. I hear they are really on the ropes out there, spent big on some players and most turned out to be complete duds. Don't know where they go to from here. I'm with you on Nesbitt too, heard he didn't think much of little brother cutting and running so can't see him doing the same thing. One bloke sure to be absent from Lakers next year is Maxwell. Reports in the paper said he was out 6 weeks ago with general soreness?? and hasn't been seen since. They were shopping him around b4 clearances closed but couldn't get any takers. Not popular up there.

My spies have told me that the reason Maxwell has not been playing is because he told the Lakers from the very start of the year that he wanted out and to be cleared to Darley, he spat the dummy and said he would not play. After some convincing he returned to the club and his form was ok but the team suffered losses and the story goes that he said to some people he didnt want to play as they would not play finals, i did also hear that before clearances closed their was some enquiries made from him to other district clubs that he would be available for a fee.

Very talented player but you would not expect him to be at Lakers next season.

learmonth

18 Aug 2006, 11:24

Have watched a few Gordon games this year and I'm interested in who the dodgy recruits are? From what I've seen they have a good mix but with the high turnover of players, as is the case year after year at Gordon, they don't get a chance to put together a decent game plan. Aside from this I think confidence is an issue they may need to address.

Ill give u atleast 1 dudd getting paid out their. Jeremy jenkins formerly of East/Point who couldnt get a game in the 2's. I believe east/point traded him to Gordon for 1 pie and a can of coke. Is overweight, has no skills, but probably is a loyal club man... As long as he puts the $$ back in, then their should be no complaint, but a shocking recruit.
As long as Gordon keep recruiting like they have in teh past few years they will always remain on the bottom, unless they become extinct..

learmonth

18 Aug 2006, 11:27

My spies have told me that the reason Maxwell has not been playing is because he told the Lakers from the very start of the year that he wanted out and to be cleared to Darley, he spat the dummy and said he would not play. After some convincing he returned to the club and his form was ok but the team suffered losses and the story goes that he said to some people he didnt want to play as they would not play finals, i did also hear that before clearances closed their was some enquiries made from him to other district clubs that he would be available for a fee.

Very talented player but you would not expect him to be at Lakers next season.

I know Maxwell personally, and your spot on with the Darley proposition. Was offered Massive $$ to go their, but Lakers wouldnt clear him. Has a former coach from Shepparton now linked with Melton who helped him out when he was looking to do time for a misdemeanor. Will be their next season. Only thing that may keep him, is that he is best mates with Nesbitt, who could possibly coach Lakers next season.

Bobby Giovanni

18 Aug 2006, 11:38

You're definitely a Beacham.

learmonth

18 Aug 2006, 12:52

You're definitely a Beacham.

Sorry Bobby, I know him, but im not one.. Aj is coach of Learmonth and i dont know Tim, but from what Aj tells me, he is usually pretty close to the mark..

Bobby Giovanni

18 Aug 2006, 13:03

Interesting... The Maxie, Veldhuis, interleague, Daylesford, hating of Hepburn connection. AJ is Pies, Tim is Richmond... all seems to stack up.

Anyways, play on!

The monza

18 Aug 2006, 13:36

Interesting... The Maxie, Veldhuis, interleague, Daylesford, hating of Hepburn connection. AJ is Pies, Tim is Richmond... all seems to stack up.

Anyways, play on!
Play on I say

Hampton Hammer

18 Aug 2006, 20:34

ryang

19 Aug 2006, 13:14

Re: Gordon Football Club.

I was the last coach of Gordon prior to Gladman. I still get up to Gordon a bit and rumours are rife on player payments and what Gladman gets but would be very surprised if he was on more than $10,000. I am pretty sure there was some sort of arrangement with NeverFail (his work) paying some of his salary.

Nevertheless I can tell you now, very hard to attract any sort of footballer to a club with no success. They have finished 13th (2004), 14th (2005 and 2006). If you were asked to leave your club to go there, would you? Unfortunately that means that any 'new' recruit goes there with a price tag on their head that they would be lucky to get half of elsewhere....

It was my first gig as a senior coach and glad I got a coaching gig elsewhere... you know you are in trouble when the footy trip is all but booked in December of the year before the season....
You make some good points HH, the longer you are at or near the bottom the harder it gets to attract recruits. What do you think is going to happen there, will they survive long term? The stories are doing the rounds again that they are in serious trouble and the future looks bleak. They always seem to have pretty good junior teams but not many of their kids seem to take the next step.

Pinky Panther

19 Aug 2006, 14:39

Re: Gordon Football Club.

I was the last coach of Gordon prior to Gladman. I still get up to Gordon a bit and rumours are rife on player payments and what Gladman gets but would be very surprised if he was on more than $10,000. I am pretty sure there was some sort of arrangement with NeverFail (his work) paying some of his salary.

Nevertheless I can tell you now, very hard to attract any sort of footballer to a club with no success. They have finished 13th (2004), 14th (2005 and 2006). If you were asked to leave your club to go there, would you? Unfortunately that means that any 'new' recruit goes there with a price tag on their head that they would be lucky to get half of elsewhere....

It was my first gig as a senior coach and glad I got a coaching gig elsewhere... you know you are in trouble when the footy trip is all but booked in December of the year before the season....

Reckon you've hit the nail on the head there HH. Actually played under you during your time at Gordon and although the social side of things was good, I don't think footy was foremost in alot of the players minds. Having returned to my old club now, have really noticed the difference in the way things are run out at Gordon.

stanleyy

20 Aug 2006, 10:09

Reckon you've hit the nail on the head there HH. Actually played under you during your time at Gordon and although the social side of things was good, I don't think footy was foremost in alot of the players minds. Having returned to my old club now, have really noticed the difference in the way things are run out at Gordon.u've played @ a few clubs pinky!just wondering did u watch the sunbury v "Eastpoint" clash,& if u did what were ur impressions,i only saw the 2nd half by all rerorts great 1st 1/4

ryang

20 Aug 2006, 11:32

u've played @ a few clubs pinky!just wondering did u watch the sunbury v "Eastpoint" clash,& if u did what were ur impressions,i only saw the 2nd half by all rerorts great 1st 1/4
Shows once and for all how over rated and soft East Point are and that Power is a s hit coach. By his own assertion. The business is done on the ground, not in the media. Hope he finally realises this and shuts up.

Blues1995

20 Aug 2006, 14:24

Shows once and for all how over rated and soft East Point are and that Power is a s hit coach. By his own assertion. The business is done on the ground, not in the media. Hope he finally realises this and shuts up.

i travelled up the freeway to Sunbury yesterday to see these two sides play in what had been billed as a big game of the round, Sunbury come out of the blocks and had a 7 goal lead at one stage but then undisciplined acts turned the game around, Sunburys own Stupidity let their opponents back into the game and they need to clean their act up, it all starts at the top and its like a cancer that spreads and its been that way since they entered the competition.

Sunbury did get a couple of bad decisions but that was not the cause of the turn around, it was Discipline. East Point play a good brand of footy and are really solid accross all lines and are FIT, sunbury played a good brand of footy for 20 minutes but lost the plot and it was evident that they had spent all their petrol tickets in the first quarter.

Sitting in the stands and watching it all unfold was an eye opener, Also worth noting in the footy record it was also mentioned that Shane Robertson could be headed to Sunbury ? any further new on this.

I read the papers this morning and see that the Lakers had another win and wondering from people up in ballarat as to what the lakers look like doing next season on their coaching appointments! my mail has told me that O'Connell and co may just help the club out and do not want the coaches jobs but willing to help with recruiting due to family commitments?

NCFL

20 Aug 2006, 20:39

Just been reading the mail on the coaching for next year. Interested in Robbo, is there any other coaches in the CHFL that could make the step up a league??

Vineyard

21 Aug 2006, 12:19

Vineyard

21 Aug 2006, 12:28

Would any of the sides this week rest key players.

For example East play Darley and both sides are locked in their positions in the first week of the finals. IS it worth them risking DJ now he has his ton for the year. Or if hutchy or BJ go down?

Melton look like playing ballarat two weeks in a row. Do you play tricks first up.

Could be an interesting round.

The Scribe

21 Aug 2006, 12:34

Would love to hear comments from Kings Army on the Sunbury / East Point game as he has the knowledge there.

Heard that Power had a real crack at the CEO of the league also. It seems that Sunbury might be tough physically but very weak mentally.

Vineyard hows the Darley boys travelling coming towards the business end of the season?? In particular hows the form of ex williamstown star and current BFL strongman 'the big red express??' Rumuor has it that mark of the year was taken on his head a few weeks back against the marsh when young R.Connors used him as a spring board, and it made the paper.. U may not have seen it because i think Roh bought every copy.. capey can expect a personally signed one in the mail.. :D :D :thumbsu:

Kings Army

21 Aug 2006, 12:49

Would love to hear comments from Kings Army on the Sunbury / East Point game as he has the knowledge there.

Heard that Power had a real crack at the CEO of the league also. It seems that Sunbury might be tough physically but very weak mentally.

Had a crack due to balant cheating from the BFL umpires. Word is the CEO will be getting all of the BFL committe together to review that last 10 mins of the 1st quarter. It was great that he was at the game! Didn't the umpires realise that the game was being filmed. Sunbury never had a chance.

The sending off of Matt Payne was as bad a mistake as you could make. Umpires are the ones that are metally weak as they lost control of the game and gave East Point 5 goals from free kicks in 10 minutes.

learmonth

21 Aug 2006, 13:27

Had a crack due to balant cheating from the BFL umpires. Word is the CEO will be getting all of the BFL committe together to review that last 10 mins of the 1st quarter. It was great that he was at the game! Didn't the umpires realise that the game was being filmed. Sunbury never had a chance.

The sending off of Matt Payne was as bad a mistake as you could make. Umpires are the ones that are metally weak as they lost control of the game and gave East Point 5 goals from free kicks in 10 minutes.

Good old Sunbury at it AGAIN! The most undisciplined side to EVER play the game. From reading the paper, what is the coach doing speaking to the CEO during the game. Professional coaches dont get distracted, and he should have been concentrating on the game. Thats why he wont be there next season! Great player, but his coaching from what i read, needs some fine tuning.
Umpires are there to do a job, and they make mistakes, but they dont cost u a 7 goal lead. Thats twice Sunbury have been run over by EAST! I believe Fitness could be a real area of concern for Sunbury. Have the talent to mix it, but fitness and discipline..I dont think so..

Blues1995

21 Aug 2006, 13:45

Good old Sunbury at it AGAIN! The most undisciplined side to EVER play the game. From reading the paper, what is the coach doing speaking to the CEO during the game. Professional coaches dont get distracted, and he should have been concentrating on the game. Thats why he wont be there next season! Great player, but his coaching from what i read, needs some fine tuning.
Umpires are there to do a job, and they make mistakes, but they dont cost u a 7 goal lead. Thats twice Sunbury have been run over by EAST! I believe Fitness could be a real area of concern for Sunbury. Have the talent to mix it, but fitness and discipline..I dont think so..

Learmonth, with what i saw it was not only a lack of fitness and discpline that turned the game, East Point had many players who are fit and ran all day on the wide sunbury oval. When the sunbury coach who was on the sidelines kicks the game ball away when it had gone out of bounds and gives away a free kick then you need to look no further for lack of leadership at Sunbury.

They used all their energy in the first 20 minutes and to blame umpires for losing by 62 points are kidding themselves and is just a cop out, have a good look at the culture and until this is gone they will never learn and i would say that they may be looking for a new coach next year after hearing some rumblings on Saturday.

They quickly turn when things dont go their way and look for excuses.

cockroach

21 Aug 2006, 16:22

CaRn_ThE_pUp23

21 Aug 2006, 17:55

Jarman03

21 Aug 2006, 18:17

What a weekend of football in the BFL by the sounds of it. Didnt see any myself so cant comment on it. I think:
The grand final is out of 3, east sunbury and redan. I think Sunbury will play the winner of the first final between east and redan in the grand final. For the loser to then have to play elimination finals right through will be too tough agaist the quality of sunbury redan.
darley if they get mcmahon and reynolds henry back into their line up could knock anyone off, yet to prove can over 4 weeks though so very doubtful and big first up final with sunbury will be tuogh for both sides.
melton the real smokey, fact is they win their first final at home which they should and they are inthe last 3 guaranteed so have as good a chance as any from there having won it last year.
Ballarat cant see beating melton at home, young and inexperienced, have the run but melton very tough side to beat at maccy park.

Blues1995

21 Aug 2006, 18:56

did u not see the game on the weekend between sunbury and east point in the 18's. yes east are looking strong but so are we(sunbury)...dont know how u can predict who will win when the teams have played twice and its 1 all and sunbury had key players out this time aswell........?? Also with the sunbury side being not disciplined, you dont start flipping your lid when u r seven goals up unprovoked, the umpires played stupid free kicks, a rank send off and dealt with sunbury very hard....Is this because of their reputation that the umpires have a said we will be onto sunbury like a rash, if so this is wrong as u see in all the 50-50's that sunbury will get the rough end of the stick whether its a holding the ball or a ball up whateva the contest sunbury loses.....my tip Power to coach Sunbury in 2007 as he has the credentials to become better than he is and he wants the sunbury football club to succeed

Flipping your lid is what Sunbury did do Pup!, they were undiscplined and it stood out pretty obviously on Saturday, their 1st send off was definately their for a crude attack with the knees, dont tell me any differently as i was sitting in the grandstand next to one of the Sunbury officials who also said he deserved to be sent off, I had a clear view of it and it was gutless, i wonder if they will produce video evidence to get him off as i believe it was Sunbury who were filming the game, i dont think so!, the other send off was worthy of a free kick and 50 mentres only, i agree that he did not deserve to be sent off but what that says of the umpires on the day was that they were not going to put up with cheap shots. I wonder if you guys at sunbury have stopped and smelt the roses, of course the umpires will go towards a team that plays the ball in 50/50 contests, its only natural in human instinct that you would favour the side who was putting the head over the ball, if you had remained focussed on the ball and not the man you may have seen a different result, you get told that at underage footy when you start that the one who plays the ball will get looked after. Pretty simple stuff boys. The winner of the grand final will come from the Qualifying final East Point V Redan, these two sides are quality and have the discipline to take it out this year.

Grimmett

21 Aug 2006, 23:48

You reap what you sow.

Intimidate, bully and bash for long enough and even when you stop your reputation precedes you. Unfortunately for Sunbury they could keep their noses clean for five years and the first time a player goes off in 2011 everybody will say 'typical ****ing Sunbury, bunch of thugs'. Lupson's legacy will be long.
However, it cannot help your case when Power leaves the field to confront the league CEO during a match. Might be time for a more relaxed style of coaching for the Lions?

Kings Army

22 Aug 2006, 10:04

Flipping your lid is what Sunbury did do Pup!, they were undiscplined and it stood out pretty obviously on Saturday, their 1st send off was definately their for a crude attack with the knees, dont tell me any differently as i was sitting in the grandstand next to one of the Sunbury officials who also said he deserved to be sent off, I had a clear view of it and it was gutless, i wonder if they will produce video evidence to get him off as i believe it was Sunbury who were filming the game, i dont think so!, the other send off was worthy of a free kick and 50 mentres only, i agree that he did not deserve to be sent off but what that says of the umpires on the day was that they were not going to put up with cheap shots. I wonder if you guys at sunbury have stopped and smelt the roses, of course the umpires will go towards a team that plays the ball in 50/50 contests, its only natural in human instinct that you would favour the side who was putting the head over the ball, if you had remained focussed on the ball and not the man you may have seen a different result, you get told that at underage footy when you start that the one who plays the ball will get looked after. Pretty simple stuff boys. The winner of the grand final will come from the Qualifying final East Point V Redan, these two sides are quality and have the discipline to take it out this year.

The 1st send off was for a hit on that sniping dog that came off the line 6 times in the 1st match East and Sunbury played. After the knock he took he did not do it once.

2nd send off was a free - not even 50.

If you don't think the umpires target Sunbury you were not at the same game I was. Interesting if the CEO backs his comments that he agreed that the umpires had cheated in the 1st quater in front of the BFL board tonight.

learmonth

22 Aug 2006, 10:41

The 1st send off was for a hit on that sniping dog that came off the line 6 times in the 1st match East and Sunbury played. After the knock he took he did not do it once.

2nd send off was a free - not even 50.

If you don't think the umpires target Sunbury you were not at the same game I was. Interesting if the CEO backs his comments that he agreed that the umpires had cheated in the 1st quater in front of the BFL board tonight.

Sunbury players and supporters must learn to respect the BFL and its members to try and get some dignity back. They bring it on themselves, and it only seems Sunbury supporters believe umpires/officials are against them. U have tunnel vision Kings Army.
Im sure the CEO never said the umpires were cheating as he is far too professional to make a statement like that at that time and minute, even if he believed it was true., and Sunbury have just ignited that call.
Its interesting to see that Sunbury say the umpires are targeting them, Im pretty sure Sunbury TARGETED an umpire in QLD at the Races last October and can clearly see that they have not been educated regarding that disgraceful behaviour. As the wiseman once said "The man in white, is always RIGHT!"
Lets hope Sunbury get over all these fictacious thoughts and play some decent footy in the finals like we know they can.

Blues1995

22 Aug 2006, 10:45

The 1st send off was for a hit on that sniping dog that came off the line 6 times in the 1st match East and Sunbury played. After the knock he took he did not do it once.

2nd send off was a free - not even 50.

If you don't think the umpires target Sunbury you were not at the same game I was. Interesting if the CEO backs his comments that he agreed that the umpires had cheated in the 1st quater in front of the BFL board tonight.

Kings you are obviously a sunbury player, member or supporter, i did not see the 1st game as you stated and if he come off the lines then all i can say is that Payback is a Bitch isnt it, your club sunbury has been doing it for years and now you are squealing because you are getting your own back, when i was playing in the BFL i saw many instances of thuggery and to now see you squeal is making me chuckle inside because you make a rod for you own back and Your Club has bought it all on themselves, take your bat a ball and find another league because i know that every other team is sick of your behaviour and its about time that the Board of the BFL had the guts to chuck you out of the league once and for all. As for my former club the Lakers we have been on the recieving end and hopefully this week we can serve it right up to you and give you some of your own medicine, i will travel up to ballarat this week to watch the game and support a club that is a leader in discipline and is respected by all other clubs, Go Lakers!

JC1981

22 Aug 2006, 11:14

Kings Army

22 Aug 2006, 11:14

Kings you are obviously a sunbury player, member or supporter, i did not see the 1st game as you stated and if he come off the lines then all i can say is that Payback is a Bitch isnt it, your club sunbury has been doing it for years and now you are squealing because you are getting your own back, when i was playing in the BFL i saw many instances of thuggery and to now see you squeal is making me chuckle inside because you make a rod for you own back and Your Club has bought it all on themselves, take your bat a ball and find another league because i know that every other team is sick of your behaviour and its about time that the Board of the BFL had the guts to chuck you out of the league once and for all. As for my former club the Lakers we have been on the recieving end and hopefully this week we can serve it right up to you and give you some of your own medicine, i will travel up to ballarat this week to watch the game and support a club that is a leader in discipline and is respected by all other clubs, Go Lakers!

Not a sunbury player, member or supporter so you have you have misread that for starters. I support Gisborne but have 1 friend that plays for the club, if anything I would follow Darley in the BFL. That 10 minutes of football was a disgrace - get a copy of the tape and then have a chat to me. It was nearly as bad as last years Grand Final. 2 of the 3 games I have seen in the last year have been heavilly affeced by umpire bias. Who cares what has happened in the past the umpires must call the game as they see it.

As for the Lakers you can enjoy your last game for the year. You might even win as Sunbury can not improve on the ladder so they would not care about the game. But before you start spruiking about your club please have some success. You team is not know for fair play but for being weak as *****.

Also when did you become spoken person for all the league clubs?

learmonth

22 Aug 2006, 12:57

Everybody knows that the BFL has had a prejudice against Subury right from there inception into the Ballarat Football League, Sunbury dont want to play in there league and the league does not want them so why dont they have a crack at getting into the Essendon District league which would make far more sense fiancially and geographically as well as being a stronger level of football.

Sunbury will leave, a soon as they win a flag, they wish to leave on their terms and be classed as the best in the BFL. This wont happen for a long time, as other sides have become as professional of the field as them, but improved significantly on the field. I believe a lot of there senior players dont train as hard over the pre-season as they used to, and the games is passing them. Maybe instead of the Essendon District, they go back to the Riddell league were they may be more competitive. Probably good to give them a practice match against the Bundoora U/17's and watch them punch the crap out of each other!!!!
The BFL has never been biased towards Sunbury and its this ridiculous culture that Sunbury have that is ruining there team. Its a bit similar to an alcoholic. Admit u have a problem, then u can be HELPED! If u keep being in denial, then there will be no hope.
PS And by the way, Can Sunbury put some money into their ground and facilities rather then all these overpaid footballers!!!!

ringo1

22 Aug 2006, 14:58

Vineyard

22 Aug 2006, 15:15

predict sunbury v East grand final
if sunbury can channel the agression at the ball East will fold
the factor will be discipline
Redan mid field is very good ,may shake it up Edwards is there key
Darley/Melton may struggle both have week backlines
especially with Cape now a mid fielder
i dont thinks they have a match for Easts gun forwards ?
Ballarat no good
top six is a soft option with only 10 teams in the comp

Sunbury to smash it in the twos
East in the under 18s looking very strong

I believe that if Darley knock over Sunbury in the first week then they become a legitimate chance. Rumour is that McMahon is heading back from China, and Reynolds in his comeback game snared 7 goals 5. Not bad for a 36yo. Couple of other players back from injury so cant see Cape playing in the midfield. Maybe pinch hitting roles. As for their defence robbins, scoble, Mcleod & Smithwick have been very good all year. Plus they have won finals before, just havent been able to string 3 or 4 in a row that is required. Sign of an inexperienced side.

Might lack the class of east & redan to go all the way. They would be firm favorites and the teams to beat.

Hampton Hammer

22 Aug 2006, 15:19

You make some good points HH, the longer you are at or near the bottom the harder it gets to attract recruits. What do you think is going to happen there, will they survive long term? The stories are doing the rounds again that they are in serious trouble and the future looks bleak. They always seem to have pretty good junior teams but not many of their kids seem to take the next step.

Hard to say whether they will survive long-term but like all clubs, no-one wants to lose their identity and merge or worse still fold. There are some good juniors that come through but they don't want to hang around and finish last or second last with the seniors and most of the kids go to school in Ballarat so want to play with their school mates elsewhere. It will be interesting to see how long they can hold on for but they seriously lack initiative in getting sponsorship, which if they want to spend on players, they need more and more of it.

Hampton Hammer

22 Aug 2006, 15:24

Reckon you've hit the nail on the head there HH. Actually played under you during your time at Gordon and although the social side of things was good, I don't think footy was foremost in alot of the players minds. Having returned to my old club now, have really noticed the difference in the way things are run out at Gordon.

Yes agree the social side was good but footy comes second to the social side and the results show on the scoreboard. Amazing how much a culture is hard to change, especially a losing one. Sadly, I can't see it changing in the years to come.

simplesimon

22 Aug 2006, 15:30

I believe that if Darley knock over Sunbury in the first week then they become a legitimate chance. Rumour is that McMahon is heading back from China, and Reynolds in his comeback game snared 7 goals 5. Not bad for a 36yo. Couple of other players back from injury so cant see Cape playing in the midfield. Maybe pinch hitting roles. As for their defence robbins, scoble, Mcleod & Smithwick have been very good all year. Plus they have won finals before, just havent been able to string 3 or 4 in a row that is required. Sign of an inexperienced side.

Might lack the class of east & redan to go all the way. They would be firm favorites and the teams to beat.

as you mentioned Vineyard, it will be intersting to see if any of the top 6 rest players this week considering the first week of finals is all locked away.

McMahon back, rumour has it that he's kicked 76 goals in 9 games in the local Chinese league! :D

Maybe Miller can inspire the Devils to a couple of finals victories.

Vineyard

22 Aug 2006, 16:11

as you mentioned Vineyard, it will be intersting to see if any of the top 6 rest players this week considering the first week of finals is all locked away.

McMahon back, rumour has it that he's kicked 76 goals in 9 games in the local Chinese league! :D

Maybe Miller can inspire the Devils to a couple of finals victories.

probably eaten 76 dim sims in 9 sittings.

ryang

22 Aug 2006, 17:25

probably eaten 76 dim sims in 9 sittings.
HAHA. Another gem vineyard.

polly_lions

22 Aug 2006, 18:10

Learmonth, with what i saw it was not only a lack of fitness and discpline that turned the game, East Point had many players who are fit and ran all day on the wide sunbury oval. When the sunbury coach who was on the sidelines kicks the game ball away when it had gone out of bounds and gives away a free kick then you need to look no further for lack of leadership at Sunbury.

They used all their energy in the first 20 minutes and to blame umpires for losing by 62 points are kidding themselves and is just a cop out, have a good look at the culture and until this is gone they will never learn and i would say that they may be looking for a new coach next year after hearing some rumblings on Saturday.

They quickly turn when things dont go their way and look for excuses.

No one is saying that sunbury are blaming the umpires for the lost yeah the free kick count went east points way more then sunbury but do u hear any one from sunbury saying that the only reason they lost so mate it time to start getting fact rights before trying to be the big man

polly_lions

22 Aug 2006, 18:22

I reckon that its time to get the BFL back as a Ballarat based league. Sunbury could play in a metro league and a few new clubs could compete in the BFL. It just appears that there is 2 much ill feeling at the moment towards and from newer clubs. Remember the BFL was the premier country league in the 80's

The ballarat league is still a primier country league wioth the help of sunbury players this years inter league came runners up in div 1 but u wouldn't know much about the would u **** wit

stanleyy

22 Aug 2006, 20:20

Sunbury will leave, a soon as they win a flag, they wish to leave on their terms and be classed as the best in the BFL. This wont happen for a long time, as other sides have become as professional of the field as them, but improved significantly on the field. I believe a lot of there senior players dont train as hard over the pre-season as they used to, and the games is passing them. Maybe instead of the Essendon District, they go back to the Riddell league were they may be more competitive. Probably good to give them a practice match against the Bundoora U/17's and watch them punch the crap out of each other!!!!
The BFL has never been biased towards Sunbury and its this ridiculous culture that Sunbury have that is ruining there team. Its a bit similar to an alcoholic. Admit u have a problem, then u can be HELPED! If u keep being in denial, then there will be no hope.
PS And by the way, Can Sunbury put some money into their ground and facilities rather then all these overpaid footballers!!!!I would have thought the social club @ sunbury was one of the better ones around compared to other BFL clubs & probably the EDFL as well.It all depends on where u like to have a beer isn't it!