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[stmookeyj]

Thank you for your reply Up North. Does any one have any other information or experiences?

In a 6 team comp, Moranbah and Baker's Creek make up the numbers (one of our players is off to Moranbah this year) and don't have reserves teams. Eastern Swans basically make the finals by default and it shows. North Mackay are the strongest side up there, Whitsunday Eagles and Mackay City Hawks decent sides.

[morphous]

if you did a little bit of research jorgey boy, you'd notice that a fair quantity of zillmere's players are actually aspley juniors eg. Ben Warren drafted to Kangaroos last year, Daniel Pratt, Cheynee Stiller etc.

Pretty sure too either this season or the last two they've had a combined u18 side between them.

[stinger_21]

04 and 03 was combined with once again majority of the squad being aspley juniors.

[Jorge Horatio]

if you did a little bit of research jorgey boy, you'd notice that a fair quantity of zillmere's players are actually aspley juniors eg. Ben Warren drafted to Kangaroos last year, Daniel Pratt, Cheynee Stiller etc.

Hey good research champ, but by the looks of it you have 3 players that have gone on to play afl from Aspley and my friend i dont classify 3 as a quantity.Jeremy and Cheynee both played at Aspley as juniors yet i played with Jeremy in under 16's at Sandgate, Cheynee also played at Sandgate for a few years. Lets add Jamie Charman, Shane Morrison, Shane Rogerson, Brendan Forbes, Evan & the coach Murray Davis and probably a dozen more lads that played juniors at Sandgate to move to seniors up the road.

[Wildcard21]

Id say the chances of eagles boys going to sandgate are lower than going to aspley. I can see them all sticking together to play footy as word is they have a very strong young side. Aspley would be the other option, but there is alot of uneven ground between the 2 clubs with all of aspleys good juniors parting ways and heading to zillmere at 17 years old, and not supporting those boys furthering there footy.

Although at the same time, If aspley EVER wanted to be in the state league, they should merge with the talent and depth that zillmere provide, and provide the cash zillmere need. its a 2 way street but cant see aspley giving up their 'proud' name to be Zillmeres little brother while giving them cash. Although Zillmere wouldnt forfeit their club history and soul to be the hornets in the State League. A tough one, but I cant see aspley or sandgate getting any quality. I cant see zillmere folding, AFLQ wouldnt let it happen

[Wildcard21]

Hey good research champ, but by the looks of it you have 3 players that have gone on to play afl from Aspley and my friend i dont classify 3 as a quantity.Jeremy and Cheynee both played at Aspley as juniors yet i played with Jeremy in under 16's at Sandgate, Cheynee also played at Sandgate for a few years. Lets add Jamie Charman, Shane Morrison, Shane Rogerson, Brendan Forbes, Evan & the coach Murray Davis and probably a dozen more lads that played juniors at Sandgate to move to seniors up the road.

I beleive Jeremy played a few years at sandgate and went to aspley late, but Cheynee went at a young age before Jeremy. Not sure about throwing shane rogerson, brendan forbes or the Davis' brothers in though. Arent they still playing at Eags? not afl. Although I guess is better than still at sandgate, good to see they went on further. I think aspley has a whole bunch of young 17-21 yo's at zillmere now too, if only all the clubs could get along northside footy would be on fire

[Wildcard21]

There is no point in a merge as aspley dont need a financally struggling club wen if zillmere fold all the players will come to aspley anyway and then head into div 1. Aspley have plaenty of money already..

Yeah but finish low in div 2, doesnt say much. IF Zillmere have no money and are successful, and aspley struggle but have money, couldnt AFLQ or the northside clubs put 2 and 2 together? Its for success and survival really

[Doug_Hondo]

Condor is the greatest player to come out of sandgate by far...

[Eagle Eye]

There is no point in a merge as aspley dont need a financally struggling club wen if zillmere fold all the players will come to aspley anyway and then head into div 1. Aspley have plaenty of money already..

A few flaws in your argument here.

1) I doubt all the ex-Aspley boys at the Eagles would want to come back after the way they are treated by Aspley once they have made the decision to improve their footy. It's pathetic!

2) Not all the Eagles players are ex-Aspley, you give no recognition to the many former Sandgate juniors, or those from Kedron, Strathpine, Wilston-Grange, Redcliffe, Caboolture, Sherwood, Ferny Grove and the 'super' Suncoast boys.

It is this arrogance that has caused the problems for Aspley over the years.

Out of interest, if the Eagles boys did come to Aspley in 2008 where would the 40 or so existing Aspley players who won't get a game go? - in 2007 Aspley spent a heap of money on imports and sent a whole bunch packing to W/Grange 3rds and still didn't win a flag. Where will the next lot be bundled off too?

Finally, don't think the Eagles won't be around in 2008 - the northside football environment needs a quality State League Footy club that gives players from all northside clubs a chance to play at the top level without the petty crap.

[Jorge Horatio]

A few flaws in your argument here.

1) I doubt all the ex-Aspley boys at the Eagles would want to come back after the way they are treated by Aspley once they have made the decision to improve their footy. It's pathetic!

2) Not all the Eagles players are ex-Aspley, you give no recognition to the many former Sandgate juniors, or those from Kedron, Strathpine, Wilston-Grange, Redcliffe, Caboolture, Sherwood, Ferny Grove and the 'super' Suncoast boys.

It is this arrogance that has caused the problems for Aspley over the years.

Out of interest, if the Eagles boys did come to Aspley in 2008 where would the 40 or so existing Aspley players who won't get a game go? - in 2007 Aspley spent a heap of money on imports and sent a whole bunch packing to W/Grange 3rds and still didn't win a flag. Where will the next lot be bundled off too?

Finally, don't think the Eagles won't be around in 2008 - the northside football environment needs a quality State League Footy club that gives players from all northside clubs a chance to play at the top level without the petty crap.


Could not have said it any better myself if i sat and tried. Arrogance is something they have in abundance. Unlike premierships.

[Jorge Horatio]

Condor is the greatest player to come out of sandgate by far...


Touch and go between him and big bustling barry mac

[Oddball]

I'll tell you right now that there are quite a few guys down there now that have played at the hornets and left to further their football at the eagles. It has been happening for years which has in itself affected the amount of premierships the club has won. The Aspley football club is a great and proud football club and has everything that would make for a good state league club including money. If the boys from the eagles come back to the hornets it is only a matter of time before the inevitable decision is made for Aspley to be in the state league in Queensland.

Actually Dinga 19 if you would like to review the old photos Aspley Premierships have been generally the result of older Eagles players coming back at the end of their careers to help out. Many of the "old" Eagles were former Aspley juniors who went a few Kms east to play the best level they could some years earlier, but in those days they were encouraged to go and welcomed back when they wanted to return. Certainly things have changed.

As for making a good state league club, Aspley might have the money but they don't have the people or the players.

I hope the Eagles survive this current crisis, because Qld footy needs them around.

[Oddball]

04 and 03 was combined with once again majority of the squad being aspley juniors.

Not entirely correct - in 2004 it was an Aspley majority.

In 2003 it was made up of Eagles U/16's, some of whom had left Aspley after the 2001 season, but there was also players from Ferny Grove, W/Grange, Sandgate & Redcliffe

[Oddball]

There is no point in a merge as aspley dont need a financally struggling club wen if zillmere fold all the players will come to aspley anyway and then head into div 1. Aspley have plaenty of money already..

Hey Locky21, rumour has it that Aspley have formed an "alliance" with Mt Gravatt regarding the up & coming Hornets players. If true, it seems strange that they will happily send their young players "across town", but they won't send them across the road. Can't see any ageing Mt Gravatt players drifting north of the Brisbane river to play with the Hornets. Makes you wonder why they would consider such an arrangement.

Maybe a name change is also in the wind - if you start behaving like "Vultures" you might as well be called the same! :D

[Doug_Hondo]

Hey Locky21, rumour has it that Aspley have formed an "alliance" with Mt Gravatt regarding the up & coming Hornets players. If true, it seems strange that they will happily send their young players "across town", but they won't send them across the road. Can't see any ageing Mt Gravatt players drifting north of the Brisbane river to play with the Hornets. Makes you wonder why they would consider such an arrangement.

Maybe a name change is also in the wind - if you start behaving like "Vultures" you might as well be called the same! :D

Your a moron. Why should it matter that kids want to play the highest level of qld footy for a strong club and improve their chances of moving even higher? instead of wallowing in division two with old blokes taking cheap shots and trying to rip ur head...

[Wildcard21]

Your a moron. Why should it matter that kids want to play the highest level of qld footy for a strong club and improve their chances of moving even higher? instead of wallowing in division two with old blokes taking cheap shots and trying to rip ur head...

I think he might by NOT sending them to Zillmere (across the road) instead to Mt.Gravatt, doesnt make sense really. Even moreso, Zillmere's success with regards to people going further on to AFL would have to be the best by far in QLD, it wouldn't make any sense

[Oddball]

Your a moron. Why should it matter that kids want to play the highest level of qld footy for a strong club and improve their chances of moving even higher? instead of wallowing in division two with old blokes taking cheap shots and trying to rip ur head...

Firstly Dougy read the rules regarding posting on this forum before you call me or anyone else a moron.

My point is that for the last 5 to 10 years Aspley have bagged and lampooned any young player who has left Aspley to further their football by trying their luck at the Eagles. Examples being Daniel Pratt, Luke Weller, Jeremy Stiller, Marcus Allan, Jake Weller, Cheynee Stiller and there are others. Now all of a sudden their want to form a relationship with the "Vultures" so instead of sending them just down the road they want to send them across town and thats apparently OK. The Eagles have seen more AFL quality players in the last 10 years than any other AFLQ club and on top of that Aspley won all of their premierships since the early 80's on the back of Eagles players finishing their careers in a 2nd Divisin club. They (Aspley) want/accept one-way traffic, but I can't see them getting anything back from the Vultures, maybe they have fallen in the spell of David "Peter Foster" Lake as well.

Don't call me a moron until you know the facts!

[Doug_Hondo]

With Zillmere heading down the tube there's no wonder they are wanting to look for a club to send talented juniors...What have Aspley received in return from Zillmere over the last few years for all these 'star' AFL players. I havent heard the rumour so its most probably the usual AFLQ hyped garbage that goes on around this states football but really why does it matter where the juniors are going? Its the kids and parents choice which club they want to go to to further their football, why get all political and get into petty sledges about people you have no idea about?

Just another footballing nobody who wants to have his nothing opinion.

[Oddball]

Its the kids and parents choice which club they want to go to to further their football, why get all political and get into petty sledges about people you have no idea about?

Just another footballing nobody who wants to have his nothing opinion.

Firstly, it's the parents and kids who want to go to the Eagles and it's Aspley who get the irrates. So I fail to see your point.

Secondly, as for a "footballing nobody" - you have no idea what you are talking about! Unless you have been directly involved with either club in any way then you can't comment.

[Oddball]

What have Aspley received in return from Zillmere over the last few years for all these 'star' AFL players.

Last seasons B & F winnner and about half a dozen players for starters

[Doug_Hondo]

Firstly, it's the parents and kids who want to go to the Eagles and it's Aspley who get the irrates. So I fail to see your point.

Secondly, as for a "footballing nobody" - you have no idea what you are talking about! Unless you have been directly involved with either club in any way then you can't comment.

So due to this alleged alliance Aspley will force all the juniors to mt gravatt against the kids and parents wishes to go to the eagles?

And Aspley will always continue to get Zillmere's older players no matter what happens with the juniors...

[Oddball]

You're just arrogant enough to be with Aspley.

"Force" is ridiculous and I never said that, maybe encourage & direct is more in line with the truth.

Again you miss the point Aspley have gained enormously from former Eagles players and coaches over the years, yet they bitch everytime a youngster heads to a State League club. Historically the Eagles have benefited more than others from Aspley's juniors. However they (Aspley) bitched when Chris Smith went to State League, albeit Mt Gravatt in 2006. My opinion is that if they encourage a move to Mt Gravatt then the young player probably won't go and Aspley keep the player longer (read - hold back).

Aspley are short-sighted and are only thinking of themselves not the young players future. I wonder if Pratt, Stiller (x 2), Weller and Allan would of got drafted if they had of stayed at Aspley - the answer is not likely.

[4444]

"Condor is the greatest player to come out of sandgate by far..."

Ever heard of Sandgate dual Grogan Medal Winner and Premiership player
Don Smith from the 1970's. I think you'd call him a "gun" these days.

4444

[4444]

We need a AFLQ club on the Northside so players wanting to go to the next level or beyond can do so. There is also nothing wrong staying with
your Junior club if thats what you want. We need a new non aligned Northside club. Windsor/Zillmere/Windsor-Zillmere/North Brisbane and the Zillmere Eagles or whatever their next name is have had their go and failed many,many many times. Yes it's sad if they were wound up but at least Kedron,Mayne,Sandgate and Wilston-Grange have remained in the local comp's one way or another.

Consider that every other AFLQ Premier club has juniors except Zillmere.Zillmere gave up on juniors some years ago and just recruits other clubs....in that case a new non aligned Northside club is the way to go.Now what about a Name,Colours and Homeground. I await your incoming barrage.

4444

[Jorge Horatio]

We need a AFLQ club on the Northside so players wanting to go to the next level or beyond can do so. There is also nothing wrong staying with
your Junior club if thats what you want. We need a new non aligned Northside club. Windsor/Zillmere/Windsor-Zillmere/North Brisbane and the Zillmere Eagles or whatever their next name is have had their go and failed many,many many times. Yes it's sad if they were wound up but at least Kedron,Mayne,Sandgate and Wilston-Grange have remained in the local comp's one way or another.

Consider that every other AFLQ Premier club has juniors except Zillmere.Zillmere gave up on juniors some years ago and just recruits other clubs....in that case a new non aligned Northside club is the way to go.Now what about a Name,Colours and Homeground. I await your incoming barrage.

4444

Im quite happy with Sandgate. Greater history and support then any other northside club

[Oddball]

Im quite happy with Sandgate. Greater history and support then any other northside club


Not sure that Sandgate (at this time) are in any position to fill the void if the Eagles don't keep going - mind you there is strong whispers that the Eagles will still be around in 2008.

As for history I think the Eagles would be hard to toss.

Windsor formed as an QAFL team in 1923, won 18 Premierships (one shared with Sandgate as North Brisbane). Sandgate formed in 1943, won 7 Premierships (one shared with W/Zillmere as North Brisbane).

Not doubting that Sandgate are a great club and hopefully they too are on the way back from the "brink", but we need a "non-aligned" Northside club to ensure the best young players from Kedron, W/Grange, Ferny, Aspley, Strathpine, Caboolture & Redcliffe have a State League club in their vicinity. Aspley have the money to do so and a strong junior base but have alienated themselves a little because of their attitude, therefore you either love'em or hate'em.

[Doug_Hondo]

Zillmere will be in state league 08 no doubt about that....

[Hornets]

Firstly just wanted to say that i hope zilmere can stick together and continue playing next year. I know alot of the players who play down their and i think it would be a shame if the couldnt continue. Most of them i think are playing their because it is the highest level on the northside, not because of the money. If it is the money that theyre there for then they dont deserve to be there because theyve had planty of chances and still cant get off the ground.

Then i think aspley would be the obvious choice for an elevation to div. 1. Other clubs have a good history and other factors, but really money and juniors is the key, both of wich aspley have. I dont think a merge with zilmere is ever going to happen either. aspley will want their name in the comp, not a combined name. also, If they were to merge with zilmere then this could cause an excess number of players being at aspley and this would force the lower ranked players to leave which would also be dissapointing.

However zillmere do fold and lose their licence then obviously there would be a range of players doing different things. Some would go back to their old clubs, eg. sandgate, grange, kedron etc. Some would also go to other state league clubs such as mt. gravatt and western magpies.
If the hornets were to get into div 1, then ofcourse they would be able to get more quality players to the club. Remember that is why zilmere have such good quality because being able to play at the highest level attracts players.

Also i have no idea where this aspley directing players to mt gravatt theory came from. When a player decides they want to play at the next level then they ultimately chose where they want to go. If someone decides they want to move on then aspley will be dissapointed in losing someone who has played at their club but they have to move on and get over it.

lastly i want to try and get rid of this arrogant name that aspley has for itself. i dont really know where it came from or if its beacuse we have successful juniors or enough money or i dont really know. but all i do know is that there are a great bunch of seniors and plenty of juniors who are all great blokes and are playing at aspley to enjoy their footy, have as much success as they can and also have a good time.

[John L]

We need a AFLQ club on the Northside so players wanting to go to the next level or beyond can do so. There is also nothing wrong staying with
your Junior club if thats what you want. We need a new non aligned Northside club. Windsor/Zillmere/Windsor-Zillmere/North Brisbane and the Zillmere Eagles or whatever their next name is have had their go and failed many,many many times. Yes it's sad if they were wound up but at least Kedron,Mayne,Sandgate and Wilston-Grange have remained in the local comp's one way or another.

Consider that every other AFLQ Premier club has juniors except Zillmere.Zillmere gave up on juniors some years ago and just recruits other clubs....in that case a new non aligned Northside club is the way to go.Now what about a Name,Colours and Homeground. I await your incoming barrage.

4444

In the short term the Zillmere need to stay in the comp and if not perhaps Aspley can fill that role however in the long term we need to two functioning State League teams north of the river one around Zillmere and another around the central Brisbane region. Ideally if Mayne had remained at Windsor park or in State league (they won more games in State League than Redlands did in 2007 or they did in Div 2) it would have covered it, yet we cannot change the past and perhaps the idea of a non aligned state north brisbane and a central brisbane teams could work (including 18's and development squads for local juniors).
The AFLQ and AFLBJ and north Brisbane clubs (Senior and Junior) would need to get together create a workable structure for AFL north of the river that will stop the drift to the Mt Gravatts etc. We can talk till the cows come home, but until the governing bodies and clubs get together I cant see an effective outcome that promotes top grade football on the northside. Individual clubs are already competing for limited resources already.

The hard part for having a non-aligned team/s is for clubs to give up any aspirations of having a state league team and requires some tough decisions to be made (like North Melb moving to the Coast) by AFLQ and individual clubs, good luck.

[locky21]

Firstly just wanted to say that i hope zilmere can stick together and continue playing next year. I know alot of the players who play down their and i think it would be a shame if the couldnt continue. Most of them i think are playing their because it is the highest level on the northside, not because of the money. If it is the money that theyre there for then they dont deserve to be there because theyve had planty of chances and still cant get off the ground.

Then i think aspley would be the obvious choice for an elevation to div. 1. Other clubs have a good history and other factors, but really money and juniors is the key, both of wich aspley have. I dont think a merge with zilmere is ever going to happen either. aspley will want their name in the comp, not a combined name. also, If they were to merge with zilmere then this could cause an excess number of players being at aspley and this would force the lower ranked players to leave which would also be dissapointing.

However zillmere do fold and lose their licence then obviously there would be a range of players doing different things. Some would go back to their old clubs, eg. sandgate, grange, kedron etc. Some would also go to other state league clubs such as mt. gravatt and western magpies.
If the hornets were to get into div 1, then ofcourse they would be able to get more quality players to the club. Remember that is why zilmere have such good quality because being able to play at the highest level attracts players.

Also i have no idea where this aspley directing players to mt gravatt theory came from. When a player decides they want to play at the next level then they ultimately chose where they want to go. If someone decides they want to move on then aspley will be dissapointed in losing someone who has played at their club but they have to move on and get over it.

lastly i want to try and get rid of this arrogant name that aspley has for itself. i dont really know where it came from or if its beacuse we have successful juniors or enough money or i dont really know. but all i do know is that there are a great bunch of seniors and plenty of juniors who are all great blokes and are playing at aspley to enjoy their footy, have as much success as they can and also have a good time.



BANG you said it basically what i wanted to say

[Wildcard21]

BANG you said it basically what i wanted to say

Haha maybe you wrote it yourself

[acuguy]

What annoys me is the fact that the AFL make hundreds of millions of dollars on tv rights etc, they should be financially propping up all qld clubs to help grow the game, if the eagles need 150k they should get it and then the AFL should put people in place to run the club in a viable way. I know it wasn't the Eagles folks fault that this has happened. But i think the AFL should be involved in keeping this club running.

[4444]

acuguy wrote..."I know it wasn't the Eagles folks fault that this has happened. But i think the AFL should be involved in keeping this club running."

Yes it is the Eagles folks fault.They chose to get into bed with Shawsports....another poor decision by Windsor Zillmere/North Brisbane/Zillmere Eagles/Insert 2008 Name here. I'd say
Zillmere/Shawsports are already being helped out by the
AFL (sorry AFLQ) having the Northern Raiders based there.

Aspley,Sandgate,Wilston Grange/Mayne and co need to sort out their
differences and get a new non-aligned Northside AFLQ club going
with the help of the AFL (sorry AFLQ).

4444

[Jorge Horatio]

acuguy wrote..."I know it wasn't the Eagles folks fault that this has happened. But i think the AFL should be involved in keeping this club running."

Yes it is the Eagles folks fault.They chose to get into bed with Shawsports....another poor decision by Windsor Zillmere/North Brisbane/Zillmere Eagles/Insert 2008 Name here. I'd say
Zillmere/Shawsports are already being helped out by the
AFL (sorry AFLQ) having the Northern Raiders based there.

Aspley,Sandgate,Wilston Grange/Mayne and co need to sort out their
differences and get a new non-aligned Northside AFLQ club going
with the help of the AFL (sorry AFLQ).

4444

Pretty simple response to that champ. There is to much history and pride for the clubs to just simply "sort" out there differences, it just wont happen bud.Especially Mayne and Sandgate who would be to of the most well known and successful clubs in Qld let alone the northside. The supporters and officials are to stubborn in their allegiance to do anything.Look at Mayne, they should be down a division or two so they can actuially win games, but alas no, the Mayne officials will keep struggling to recruit anyone as noone likes training all year to get flogged each week. Someone or something must be put in place to fix northside afl. The gold coast has a fair share of teams but doesnt seem to suffer from the same dramas as th e brisbane north clubs......the question is , why is that?

[Oddball]

acuguy wrote..."I know it wasn't the Eagles folks fault that this has happened. But i think the AFL should be involved in keeping this club running."

Yes it is the Eagles folks fault.They chose to get into bed with Shawsports....another poor decision by Windsor Zillmere/North Brisbane/Zillmere Eagles/Insert 2008 Name here. I'd say
Zillmere/Shawsports are already being helped out by the
AFL (sorry AFLQ) having the Northern Raiders based there.

Aspley,Sandgate,Wilston Grange/Mayne and co need to sort out their
differences and get a new non-aligned Northside AFLQ club going
with the help of the AFL (sorry AFLQ).

4444

Hard to say what one would do when a "Knight in shining armour" comes along and promises the world with the apparent back-up of Kedron Wavell Services Club and a management team. The Eagles management at the time must have felt it was the right thing to do.

Problem is that Shawsportz appear as if they couldn't organise a "chook-raffle" and there are a number of sporting clubs under the Shawsportz banner which are not entirely happy with the arrangements.

I assume Shawsportz get money from the Raiders (read AFLQ) but it appears that goes into "propping-up" a collapsing infrastructure rather than back into sport which does nothing for the Eagles.

The word on the street is that the Eagles will fly in 2008 and beyond - not sure how though.

[Mikes4]

The gold coast has a fair share of teams but doesnt seem to suffer from the same dramas as th e brisbane north clubs......the question is , why is that?

Easier to recruit I'd assume. If you were a Victorian moving up to play footy, where would you rather go? Surfers or Geebung?

[Jorge Horatio]

Easier to recruit I'd assume. If you were a Victorian moving up to play footy, where would you rather go? Surfers or Geebung?


Yeah fair call that one man. Seems the coast groups have fierce jealousy of each other yet the clubs are doing well and seem to have lots of money for light, ground and change room upgrades.

[The Flying Belgian]

Being a former sandgate junior, but out of the scene for a long time now, I've found this an interesting discussion, apart from the occasional abuse. What's Sandgate's set-up ATM? Do they still have a social club? I don't know enough about the clubs's setups to know who's in the the best financial position to be THE club for the northern suburbs.

I think the real area that needs to be looked at is the growth area from the Pine River north. There's going to be a shirtload of new estates popping up around there - North Lakes is going to massive and it's got a ways to go. Where do the kids go to play from these areas? Strathpine? Redcliffe? Caboolture? Correct me if i'm wrong, but Narangba Valley High has an AFL program (like Sandgate District High), so what's being done to nurture this area? This is going to be where most of the young kids are on the northside.

[acuguy]

If the eagles didn't get into bed with Shawsportz then they wouldn't of survived fullstop. It was a night in shining armour scenario, what also annoys me is the fact that many eagles supporters ( i don't support the eagles) have put plenty of their own cash into the club. So to blame them is beyond me, aflq clubs cannot, unless propped up by local business etc etc survive. Aflq administrators must get serious and sort this out. The eagles must stay.

[Jorge Horatio]

Being a former sandgate junior, but out of the scene for a long time now, I've found this an interesting discussion, apart from the occasional abuse. What's Sandgate's set-up ATM? Do they still have a social club? I don't know enough about the clubs's setups to know who's in the the best financial position to be THE club for the northern suburbs.

I think the real area that needs to be looked at is the growth area from the Pine River north. There's going to be a shirtload of new estates popping up around there - North Lakes is going to massive and it's got a ways to go. Where do the kids go to play from these areas? Strathpine? Redcliffe? Caboolture? Correct me if i'm wrong, but Narangba Valley High has an AFL program (like Sandgate District High), so what's being done to nurture this area? This is going to be where most of the young kids are on the northside.

Old Sandgate junior hey, good to see bud. Sandgate has as of the moment no social club as it was destroyed y vandals when the club played out of Zillmere for the 2006 season. Plans are in place now for a new one to be built on the exact same site, i heard this should be approved within weeks.

I agree with you on the sentiment of north of pine rivers.As it stands i believe only Sandgate and Aspley would be where players would go for a decent level of competition as they are both within ten minutes of this area. redcliffe, Strathpine and Caboolture do not have a decent standard of competition and both Redcliffe and Caboolture are further then sandgate and Aspley to this area. I know Narangba have a junior side but there wont be another northside team placed into state league as i have it on good authority that the next area of concern is the Sunshine Coast. Northern Brisbane have enough senior sides as it is with 5 teams within 15 minutes of each other.

[Northern_kid]

Looks like Zilmere will be around next yr, so lets all move on. Seems like the same old comments are being rehashed.

Back to the footy this yr, can anyone shed some light on how there AFLQ(DIV 1)teams are shaping up this yr?

Looks on paper to be a very tight yr, with only 4 teams now playing finals. You would think that on last yr's form and the early talk around the traps that:

Top4 in no particular order would be:

Gravatt
Labrador
Southport
4th spot could be a real battle between Morningside, Lions and Eagles.

Think that Redlands and Broadbeach may struggle a little, however Hart has taken over Broadbeach, and a I am sure that he's AFL experience will hold the squad in good stead.

Anyway, it's only early days so this is really all here say, but would love to know who has picked up who for next yr.

[footy_freak17]

Yeah who are the new recruits?? I tried to start this in another thread but no-one was interested

[QLDFOOTY]

COME TO WILSTON GRANGE!! - POSITIONS VACANT for
Local, QLD or Interstate Players!! - Move to sunny Brisbane!!! Jobs, housing assistance and $$$ available!!!!!!!!!
Just send me a private message with your contact details

[Jorge Horatio]

COME TO WILSTON GRANGE!! - POSITIONS VACANT for
Local, QLD or Interstate Players!! - Move to sunny Brisbane!!! Jobs, housing assistance and $$$ available!!!!!!!!!
Just send me a private message with your contact details


What are they going that bad at this stage to warrant advertisements for players???

[acuguy]

Does anyone know if Brett Voss is going to be playing in the AFLQ this year? If he is, does anyone know if he will be returning to Morningside or playing elsewhere.

[morphous]

Does anyone know if Brett Voss is going to be playing in the AFLQ this year? If he is, does anyone know if he will be returning to Morningside or playing elsewhere.

I heard he isn't playing in the AFLQ.

[Northern_kid]

I heard he may be playing in the ammos down in Vic.

[Chasing the Dream]

Think that Redlands and Broadbeach may struggle a little, however Hart has taken over Broadbeach, and a I am sure that he's AFL experience will hold the squad in good stead.



Broadbeach losing Fulton this year is going to be a huge hole for them to fill.

Ben Fixters 'appointment' to Labrador will further streghten their claims on a finals berth for 2008.

The usual suspects will probably reign again this seasonlike most. Southport, Morningside and Mt Gravatt will fill the top three places I believe with Labrador & the Lions fighting it out for the last spot.

[goalkicker11]

What are they going that bad at this stage to warrant advertisements for players???

just one question who do you play for
and from what i'm hearing grange are looking very good as a mate of mine has agreed to play with them next year plus they have picked a couple more
so mate i think they are just putting the feelers out there to finish off a good list

but hey your club must be full of superstars

[Jorge Horatio]

just one question who do you play for
and from what i'm hearing grange are looking very good as a mate of mine has agreed to play with them next year plus they have picked a couple more
so mate i think they are just putting the feelers out there to finish off a good list

but hey your club must be full of superstars

Congratulations for your mate. unfortunately our club hasnt got all the superstars coz your not there champ. Im sure the poster can respond to his own defence. Everything with you is about your mates have done this or your mates are playing here or they have agreed to play somewhere else, I think you have told me 4 different clubs now.Werent you the one Watching Aspley training, and passing judgement too?

Where do you play or do you just like thinking you know about every clubs lists.

[billybrownless16]

Hey guys I have just moved to QLD from Tas/Vic, am living on Tamborine Mountain and am looking for somewhere to play this year.
Does anyone know what the State association division 3 comp is like, the Jimboomba Southern Redbacks look like the closest club to me, just wondering what sort of standard it is and how many clubs and how much travel etc.
cheers

[Lenny29]

Hey guys I have just moved to QLD from Tas/Vic, am living on Tamborine Mountain and am looking for somewhere to play this year.
Does anyone know what the State association division 3 comp is like, the Jimboomba Southern Redbacks look like the closest club to me, just wondering what sort of standard it is and how many clubs and how much travel etc.
cheers
State association div 3 could possibly be the worst competition in Australia, legitimately.

[Jorge Horatio]

State association div 3 could possibly be the worst competition in Australia, legitimately.


Im gonna have to agree with you. If your after playing against has beens and never will be's who like to fight instead of playing football your heading in the right direction

[Toucan Soup]

AFLSQ Div 3 is quite a low-standard comp.

But rather than it being about has-beens and never-will-bes, participation is the key. It actually introduces a lot of people to our code who very likely would not get a run at other clubs.

Division 3 was designed to cater for clubs' Third team, and single-team developing clubs (such as Southern Redbacks). Yeronga had a Thirds team this year: it introduced a lot of new players to football, and many went on to become great members and supporters of the Club during 2007.

Over the last two years, our Thirds have only had one report - and our player was the "victim". That's not a bad record in any comp.

Sure, the skills, experience and knowledge is lacking - but that particular comp thrives on the clubs' and players' enthusiasm, participation, and social interaction.

And Billy, maybe that's what you are looking for in your football now. I won't make assumptions about what you're looking for, and I don't want to run down other clubs. You are very welcome to join in at Yeronga whilst you figure out what level you wish to play at (although, it may be a long way to travel for you).

But if you do stick with the Redbacks, you could end up being just the person they need to get them organised, playing better football, and improving their club all over - which would be a great goal for anyone.

Enjoy your season - and welcome to Queensland!

[Northern_kid]

Think Gravatt still need a genuine goal kicker. I know they won the flag last yr, but I reckon last yr was a slightly sub standard yr, and won a flag in a weak yr. Think that with Labrador improving, Southport will be stronger and think Zilmere will be stronger after losing 15+ players from yr b4, that Gravatt will need to pick up a quality forward if they are to win again this yr.
Again, I think Labrador are definitely the team to beat in paper.

Clarke
Fixter
Knobel
Fulton
Shattock
Featherton(comp B&F winner)
Alleway (State CHB)
Stewart

Prob for them is there bottom 5-6 players. However with pick up of 2 ex AFl players, I reckon they are the team to beat.

[billybrownless16]

Thanks for the info guys, I could legitimately be the worst player in Australia, so i think it will be a good fit for me.
Up the Redbacks!

[Jorge Horatio]

Thanks for the info guys, I could legitimately be the worst player in Australia, so i think it will be a good fit for me.
Up the Redbacks!

Best of luck champ.Keep us posted on how your boys travel this season.

[Jorge Horatio]

Does anyone on here know when the season proper is to start. From what im hearing the north side teams are struggling to pull 25-30+ trainers. Has anyone else got any news on the season ahead.

[Up North]

Does anyone on here know when the season proper is to start. From what im hearing the north side teams are struggling to pull 25-30+ trainers. Has anyone else got any news on the season ahead.

I believe round 1 is 29th March

[Jorge Horatio]

I believe round 1 is 29th March

Thanks Up North.How you travellin

[locky21]

Does anyone on here know when the season proper is to start. From what im hearing the north side teams are struggling to pull 25-30+ trainers. Has anyone else got any news on the season ahead.


none at this stage but has anyone seen a full draw for pineapple cup

[Jorge Horatio]

none at this stage but has anyone seen a full draw for pineapple cup

Yeah no sorry bud i havent seen anything. I know they have had there meeting to put forward each clubs proposal for the year. I think AFLQ is sitting on there thumbs quite a bit.The site has nothing for this year yet and most contacts, fixtures etc are all last years. Bout time they updated their website with the information people actually wish to access.I also think it should be mandatory that state league clubs update there websites too, some clubs still have pre season 2007 stuff still up with applications for 2007 coaches.Cmon, lift your game, if AFLQ wants to be taken seriously in the context of a solid professional competition they are not going the right way about it.You arer supposed to be advertising and educating people about this great game

[morphous]

Yeah no sorry bud i havent seen anything. I know they have had there meeting to put forward each clubs proposal for the year. I think AFLQ is sitting on there thumbs quite a bit.The site has nothing for this year yet and most contacts, fixtures etc are all last years. Bout time they updated their website with the information people actually wish to access.I also think it should be mandatory that state league clubs update there websites too, some clubs still have pre season 2007 stuff still up with applications for 2007 coaches.Cmon, lift your game, if AFLQ wants to be taken seriously in the context of a solid professional competition they are not going the right way about it.You arer supposed to be advertising and educating people about this great game

With regards to the draw they're probably waiting for the status of the Zilmere situation to be known.

[Jorge Horatio]

With regards to the draw they're probably waiting for the status of the Zilmere situation to be known.

Only problem with that bud is the fact that the division 1 draw is already accessible on Zillmere's website.

On a different note i was driving past Sandgate's Lemke Rd ground to see them boring irrigation piping and holes into the main oval playing surface. Since all the latest rain and now constant irrigation to the field, the once grand playing surface will be back to its former glory, a little better then playing on concrete hard dirt and spinifex lol.

[morphous]

Only problem with that bud is the fact that the division 1 draw is already accessible on Zillmere's website.

On a different note i was driving past Sandgate's Lemke Rd ground to see them boring irrigation piping and holes into the main oval playing surface. Since all the latest rain and now constant irrigation to the field, the once grand playing surface will be back to its former glory, a little better then playing on concrete hard dirt and spinifex lol.

The Zilmere website doesn't work for me, just goes to Sporting Pulse.

[Up North]

none at this stage but has anyone seen a full draw for pineapple cup

I have seen the full draw for the season, however don't have it on me at work. Will try and get a copy to post if you like?

[Up North]

Thanks Up North.How you travellin

Going ok thanks Jorge, how about you mate? Where you guys training now the ground is being worked on?

[Jorge Horatio]

Going ok thanks Jorge, how about you mate? Where you guys training now the ground is being worked on?
We have our Junior oval as well Up North, lights all good and not a bad size oval for what we are doing bud

[locky21]

With regards to the draw they're probably waiting for the status of the Zilmere situation to be known.

the zillmere situation is all sorted according to my sources....but yeah thanks for the info guys hope to see the draw soon

[locky21]

just got a draw for PHC anyone wanna know send me a msg great knowing ppl in the industry aye

[TheBrownDog]

Does anyone know if Marcus Allan (ex-Lion) is playing for a Queensland based club this year?

[Jackson7]

wow locky your my hero.

Marcus i believe has headed to play for Claremont in WA......

[Jorge Horatio]

just got a draw for PHC anyone wanna know send me a msg great knowing ppl in the industry aye

Cmon Locky, i followed your request and pmed you but that was two days ago and the promised draw has yet to be seen. You know people in the industry, well produce the goods or people will start thinking.......................

[locky21]

2008 PHC Draw

Rd 1
Sat 29 Mar

Noosa
v
Wilston Grange




Sandgate
v
M/Northshore



5.10pm
Palm Beach
v
Western Magpies
Res: 3pm



Springwood
v
Surfers Paradise



5.00pm
Burleigh
v
Coolangatta
Res: 3pm



Aspley
v
Mayne










Rd 2
Sat 5 April
1.00pm
Wilston Grange
v
Sandgate

Res: 11am

Sat 5 April

Surfers Paradise
v
Palm Beach




Coolangatta
v
Western Magpies




Aspley
v
M/Northshore




Burleigh
v
Springwood


Sun April 6

Mayne
v
Noosa










Rd 3
Fri April 11
8.00pm
Wilston Grange
v
Aspley

Res: 6pm

Sat April 12

Springwood
v
Palm Beach




M/Northshore
v
Mayne





Western Magpies
v
Burleigh





Noosa
v
Sandgate




5.00pm
Surfers Paradise
v
Coolangatta
Res: 3pm








Rd 4
Sat April 19

Palm Beach
v
Aspley





Springwood
v
Sandgate




1.00pm
Western Magpies
v
Wilston Grange
Res: 11am



Burleigh
v
Noosa





M/Northshore
v
Surfers Paradise


Sun April 20

Mayne
v
Coolangatta









Rd 5
Sat April 26
5.00pm
Palm Beach
v
Burleigh

Res: 3pm



M/Northshore
v
Wilston Grange

SPLIT


Sandgate
v
Mayne


ROUND
Sat May 3

Aspley
v
Noosa





Western Magpies
v
Surfers Paradise


Sun May 4

Coolangatta
v
Springwood









Rd 6
Fri May 9
8.00pm
Wilston Grange
v
Mayne

Res: 6pm



Coolangatta
v
Palm Beach

RIVALRY
Sat May 10

Springwood
v
Western Magpies

ROUND


Noosa
v
M/Northshore




Sandgate
v
Aspley




5.00pm
Surfers Paradise
v
Burleigh

Res: 3pm
































































Rd 7
Sat May 17

Palm Beach
v
Noosa





M/Northshore
v
Burleigh





Aspley
v
Springwood




Wilston Grange
v
Coolangatta




Sandgate
v
Western Magpies




Mayne
v
Surfers Paradise









Rd 8
Sat May 24

Palm Beach
v
M/Northshore




Burleigh
v
Mayne





Surfers
v
Wilston Grange




Coolangatta
v
Sandgate





Springwood
v
Noosa





Western Magpies
v
Aspley










Rd 9
Sat May 31
1.00pm
Wilston Grange
v
Burleigh

Res: 11am



Sandgate
v
Surfers Paradise




Aspley
v
Coolangatta




Noosa
v
Western Magpies




M/Northshore
v
Springwood


Sun June 1

Mayne
v
Palm Beach









REP
Sat June 7

Bye




FOOTY
Sat June 7

Cairns
v
Stockmen

Townsville








Rd 10
Sat June 14

Palm Beach
v
Wilston Grange




Burleigh
v
Sandgate





Surfers Paradise
v
Aspley





Coolangatta
v
Noosa





Western Magpies
v
M/Northshore




Springwood
v
Mayne










Rd 11
Sat June 21

Sandgate
v
Palm Beach




Aspley
v
Burleigh





Noosa
v
Surfers Paradise




M/Northshore
v
Coolangatta



1.00pm
Wilston Grange
v
Springwood
Res: 11am

Sun June 22

Mayne
v
Western Magpies









Rd 12
Sat June 28

Aspley
v
Palm Beach




Noosa
v
Burleigh





Surfers Paradise
v
M/Northshore




Coolangatta
v
Mayne





Wilston Grange
v
Western Magpies




Sandgate
v
Springwood









Rd 13
Sat July 5

Noosa
v
Palm Beach




Burleigh
v
M/Northshore




Surfers Paradise
v
Mayne





Coolangatta
v
Wilston Grange




Western Magpies
v
Sandgate





Springwood
v
Aspley










Rd 14
Sat July 12

Wilston Grange
v
Noosa





M/Northshore
v
Sandgate





Coolangatta
v
Burleigh





Surfers Paradise
v
Springwood




Mayne
v
Aspley





Western Magpies
v
Palm Beach









Rd 15
Sat July 19

Western Magpies
v
Coolangatta




Springwood
v
Burleigh





Palm Beach
v
Surfers Paradise




M/Northshore
v
Aspley





Noosa
v
Mayne





Sandgate
v
Wilston Grange

























REP
Sat July 26

Australian Country Football Championships
Melbourne
FOOTY















Rd 16
Sat Aug 2

Burleigh
v
Western Magpies




Palm Beach
v
Springwood




Coolangatta
v
Surfers Paradise




Sandgate
v
Noosa





Aspley
v
Wilston Grange




Mayne
v
M/Northshore









Rd 17
Fri Aug 8
8.00pm
Burleigh
v
Palm Beach
Res: 6pm

Sat Aug 9

Springwood
v
Coolangatta



5.00pm
Surfers Paradise
v
Western Magpies
Res: 3pm



Mayne
v
Sandgate





Noosa
v
Aspley





Wilston Grange
v
M/Northshore









Rd 18
Fri Aug 15
8.00pm
Burleigh
v
Surfers Paradise
Res: 6pm

Sat Aug 16

Palm Beach
v
Coolangatta




Western Magpies
v
Springwood




M/Northshore
v
Noosa





Aspley
v
Sandgate





Mayne
v
Wilston Grange









FINALS















Week 1
22/23 Aug

Elimination and Qualifying Finals

(Highest Ranked)








Week 2
29/30 Aug

First and Second Semi Final


(Highest Ranked)








Week 3
6/7 Sept

Preliminary Final



(Neutral Venue)








Week 4
13/14 Sept

Grand Final



(Neutral Venue)

[bananabenda]

Week 4
13/14 Sept

Grand Final

Palm Beach
vs
???????????

(Neutral Venue)
If you thought PB were great last season,wait until you see the team this year. And they are playin for - "the love of football" no ones gettin' paid.:D

[Lenny29]

Week 4
13/14 Sept

Grand Final

Palm Beach
vs
???????????

(Neutral Venue)
If you thought PB were great last season,wait until you see the team this year. And they are playin for - "the love of football" no ones gettin' paid.:D
Clearly a lie, as there's a minimum amount to be paid under the cap.

[AFL MAN]

Whos a favourtie to take out the seniors this year, i hear mt gravatt lost some players and labrador picked up knobel and fixter

[hack]

its shaping up to be a pretty interesting preseason after all the reported movement between clubs. looking at who's gained and lost players ... i think it's gonna be between Mounties and Labrador this year with Southport not far off as per usual. Morningside will be a bit behind things with the loss of Tom Tarrant and the apparent season ending injury to Hayden Wilson, but you can never seem to count them out totally. the Lions will as ever be at the mercy of the senior team, so will most likely be up and down, Zillmere are a mystery, but the offseason couldnt be nearly as bad as last years (recruitment wise) Broadbeach look in real trouble, big coupe to get Shaun Hart on as coach, but without Fulton, Dillon and now Drake he might not be able to do too much. Finally Redlands ... well ... they're still Redlands.

as for the PHC, PalmBroadBeach would have to be unbackable favourites.

oh btw, i heard the Velocity Sports Cup Draw will be rereleased on Feb 1.

[The Cable Guy]

Great summary there Hack. Redlands have picked up a few though and should improve again.

[hack]

Good to Redlands have picked up some good players, every year you hope they do some good things off field so they can be competitive so hopefully this year they've done just that.
Turns out the Draw has been put off till next week as Zillmere havent done what they needed to in time.

[thegame]

Southport players Kevin Tandogac, Broc McCauley, Cameron Betts and Jake Dennis are currently playing footy in Darwin with The Tiwi Bombers!
Can someone give me any details on how they go with heights and weights for each player?
Cheers:thumbsu:

[Albert08]

Any news on a new bloke to Labrador named Nick Hill, used to be a pretty handy player for bell park in the geelong football league??

[Northern_kid]

I have to agree that Labrador are the team to beat. There bottom 6 players do let them down, but with 3/4 quality inclusions. knobel/fixter/fulton and a few others, then this may mean that the bat deeper this year.

I think Zillmere are definitely the X factor team. They lost 15 of there 18 players from the 2006 grandfinal side, due to retirement/afl/interstate etc. They had a team full of 17-21 yr olds who really did well to win 7 games and lose 5 games by less then 2 goals.
From all reports they have kept there enitire list, apart from 3 that have gone on to play AFL. The 2's won the AFLQ flag, and they are a team on the rise.

My final 4 would be:

Labrador
Southport
Mt Gravatt
Zillmere
Morningside
Coast Lions'
Broadbeach'
Redlands

[damochandler]

this year will be wide open, from what i have heard the tigers will street it in, they have picked up fenner and fulton from broadbeach and two ex afl players, in fixter and noble, and they have core group from last year.

morningside i just dont with h out for the season and tomy t moving on to mt gravatt, that will be a huge hole to fill, but moncur will be a big help up foward, he will be a handy decoy for big kent abey,but we still have tangles, grinner,ferret,goughy,browning,kinch,clarke and plenty of young kids coming through the 18's and reserves

1 kid to look out for this year he plays for the morningside panthers and his name is allistair nash he played in the finals and he was pretty good,

my final four will be the same as last year

labrador
morningside
mt gravatt
southport

zillmere
lions
redlands
broadbeach

broadbeach will finish last u could see last year that they were going to fall away, they are to reliant on round and now that fulton is gone they dont have a full foward,

with zillmere, my sources have told me they have there money for this year but they are more than likely going to fold or merge with aspley,

[morphous]

I have to agree that Labrador are the team to beat. There bottom 6 players do let them down, but with 3/4 quality inclusions. knobel/fixter/fulton and a few others, then this may mean that the bat deeper this year.

I think Zillmere are definitely the X factor team. They lost 15 of there 18 players from the 2006 grandfinal side, due to retirement/afl/interstate etc. They had a team full of 17-21 yr olds who really did well to win 7 games and lose 5 games by less then 2 goals.
From all reports they have kept there enitire list, apart from 3 that have gone on to play AFL. The 2's won the AFLQ flag, and they are a team on the rise.

My final 4 would be:

Labrador
Southport
Mt Gravatt
Zillmere
Morningside
Coast Lions'
Broadbeach'
Redlands

Mounties might slip half a place, word is one of their prized new recruits was in trouble with the law last week...

[hack]

Mounties might slip half a place, word is one of their prized new recruits was in trouble with the law last week...

feel free to elaborate mate

[morphous]

feel free to elaborate mate

I can't, it will come out in due course however it seems an old dog can't be taught any new tricks.

[damochandler]

of course in the phc palm beach will buy another flag this year,even though they have been paying there players under the table everyone knows that,coolangatta have improved his year, they have recruited well,the magpies its there last year in this comp before they go up they will want to go out on a high but its unlikely,aspley they just look to small to even contest with the side like palm beach and the magies, the rest i dont care, noosa i have been told have no money and maroochydor they will strugle,surfers i doubt they are any good this year after what happened to them last year,springwood they will run close to winning the spoon with mayne,burleigh there at the end of there run after back to back,sandgate they might win a couple of game here and there they are a young side, mayne wooden spoon here they come, they should have folded,

[hack]

I can't, it will come out in due course however it seems an old dog can't be taught any new tricks.

say no more ... i think i'm smelling what you're cooking. very interesting stuff.

[Lenny29]

that will be a huge hole to fill, but moncur will be a big help up foward,

No he won't, he's moving back to Vic now apparently.

[damochandler]

No he won't, he's moving back to Vic now apparently.

where did u hear that

[TheBrownDog]

Mounties might slip half a place, word is one of their prized new recruits was in trouble with the law last week...

What's the goss!

[Doug_Hondo]

No he won't, he's moving back to Vic now apparently.

Correct. Morphous wide of the mark as per usual.

[morphous]

Correct. Morphous wide of the mark as per usual.

I never said anything about a forward.

[damochandler]

i think the big games this year are,

round 1 grand final replay, southport were made to look second rate in that grand final and they will want some revenge at ditmar park

round 2 the panthers and the vultures we played the vultures 4 time last year 3-1 vultures favor this will be a great game at esplin oval on my birthday

round 6 split round the prelim final replay we were a dejected bunch after that game last year, we had beaten them in 3 games last year going into the game and when you have a 5 goal lead at the 2 minute mark of the 3rd quater we should have won

round 4 the semi final replay labrador the team who are hot favorites to win the flag agains the incumbants who have been there for years but this will be a classic, 2 rivals ready for war

[pacco]

Gday lads , new to the QAFL thread ,from Nrth East Country Vic and sorting a couple of Hard Queenslanders " Key Position Players " Ruck ,CHB Very good coin and jobs for Six months or more? if you want to build up the bank balance drop a privet message ! Thanks Lads
:thumbsu:

[damochandler]

another nail in the coffin for broadbeach with the news samy walters heading to the siders, to sure up there defence with the depature of tommy t

[Grumpy Bum]

COME TO WILSTON GRANGE!! - POSITIONS VACANT for
Local, QLD or Interstate Players!! - Move to sunny Brisbane!!! Jobs, housing assistance and $$$ available!!!!!!!!!
Just send me a private message with your contact details

I live about 2km's from Shaw Rd, I havent seen any sun for over a week!

[acuguy]

Local papers indicate that Moncur is playing with Morningside this season.

[morphous]

Local papers indicate that Moncur is playing with Morningside this season.

According to the AFLQ website hes coaching in Mildura.