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Ibis100
13 Apr 2006, 15:39
Heres a question that should get some attention from you all.
Does winning a McLeod Medal automatically make you a good coach or should you serve time as an assistant before stepping up to taking the main job.
Lets have a look at our current coaches and past coaches and take into consideration the player lists of each. Then consider the success they had or are expected to have ie:Premierships, finals etc.
Off the top of my head these are coaches that have won McLeod Medals that I know of in the recent past.
1. Michael Faulkhead (1 McLeod Medal. Announced coach immediately after winning)
2. Ryan O'Callaghan (1 McLeod Medal. Not sure if he coached in first year at Mildura or after winning medal.)
3. Jason Spivey (2 McLeod Medals. 4 years Assistant Coach before taking on Head Coach)
4. Brad Eaton (1 McLeod Medal. Immediately named coach after winning McLeod. 1 Year assistant coach at Irymple.)
5. Peter Johns (1 McLeod Medal. Coached three clubs and B&F at 3 clubs.)
6. Don Falvo (1 McLeod Medal. Didn't coach until years after winning McLeod. Believe he was assistant coach for several years before taking top job)
7. Tony Hickey (2 McLeod Medals. Coached bucket loads of Premierships whilst taking out numerous club B&F. I think he was an assistant Coach before taking over the reigns.)
8. Matthew Walder (1 McLeod Medal, 1 League Medal in Wimmera. Was assistant Coach at Sth Mildura from 1992-1997)
There is no doubt that those named are fantastic individual footballers but are they coaches.
There appears to be trend in the past 5 years that clubs are tending to look toward coaches that have been very good players and won individual awards rather than good players that have experience as coaches or Assistant Coaches in successful teams. Is it a case of clubs trying to secure good players and HOPING that they can coach??????
johno_07
13 Apr 2006, 16:00
Heres a question that should get some attention from you all.
Does winning a McLeod Medal automatically make you a good coach or should you serve time as an assistant before stepping up to taking the main job.
Lets have a look at our current coaches and past coaches and take into consideration the player lists of each. Then consider the success they had or are expected to have ie:Premierships, finals etc.
Off the top of my head these are coaches that have won McLeod Medals that I know of in the recent past.
1. Michael Faulkhead (1 McLeod Medal. Announced coach immediately after winning)
2. Ryan O'Callaghan (1 McLeod Medal. Not sure if he coached in first year at Mildura or after winning medal.)
3. Jason Spivey (2 McLeod Medals. 4 years Assistant Coach before taking on Head Coach)
4. Brad Eaton (1 McLeod Medal. Immediately named coach after winning McLeod. 1 Year assistant coach at Irymple.)
5. Peter Johns (1 McLeod Medal. Coached three clubs and B&F at 3 clubs.)
6. Don Falvo (1 McLeod Medal. Didn't coach until years after winning McLeod. Believe he was assistant coach for several years before taking top job)
7. Tony Hickey (2 McLeod Medals. Coached bucket loads of Premierships whilst taking out numerous club B&F. I think he was an assistant Coach before taking over the reigns.)
8. Matthew Walder (1 McLeod Medal, 1 League Medal in Wimmera. Was assistant Coach at Sth Mildura from 1992-1997)
There is no doubt that those named are fantastic individual footballers but are they coaches.
There appears to be trend in the past 5 years that clubs are tending to look toward coaches that have been very good players and won individual awards rather than good players that have experience as coaches or Assistant Coaches in successful teams. Is it a case of clubs trying to secure good players and HOPING that they can coach??????
Ibis100, in answering your question, no i don't think winning a mcleod medal makes you a good coach, or any other medal for that case.
Winning/earning awards a player is for that reason, i think it happens all to often that clubs look at "coaches" as people who can draw players to their club rather than coach their club. Being able to recruit/attract good players is obviously important but i would have thought being able to coach a group is far more important.
If you look at Leigh Mathews, never won a brownlow, obviously great player and great coach. I think often we all get caught up in "if they are a good player, they will be a good coach" argument. I don't subscribe to that theory.
As for Ryan, he coached and won the Mcleod in his first year. I believe he had the team in 2004 to win the flag. I think 4 years at the helm is to long, get some fresh blood in there.
BUt on the flipside to that, look at Sheedy....
good discussion........
The Nest
13 Apr 2006, 16:04
No meeting was called at South about Gutsy but it was mentioned to the playing group about the consequences of posting things on here.
Big News I heard last night The NEST, Deangilis hurt himself at work yesterday and unavailable for Friday. Came straight from his old man apparently. Any truth to that one. Better be, I got a call at 1030 last night to let me know and interupted my beauty sleep.
Spoke to Donato just before had a photo with Dalla, will be right to go, got some metal caught in his eye, bit of conjunctivitus.
Grimmet you are a knowledgable man, Nest in Nomis 2006!
I think you are spot on Ibis, clubs will use the coaching/assistant role as extra incentive to lure a player and maybe pay them more. The smart clubs still take into consideration the overall benefit for the team. We lost a couple of recruits to opposition clubs this year because of that reason. Team success is the ultimate judge of a good coach, and getting the most out of his players.
Back Pocket Assassin
13 Apr 2006, 16:06
Heres a question that should get some attention from you all.
Does winning a McLeod Medal automatically make you a good coach or should you serve time as an assistant before stepping up to taking the main job.
Lets have a look at our current coaches and past coaches and take into consideration the player lists of each. Then consider the success they had or are expected to have ie:Premierships, finals etc.
Off the top of my head these are coaches that have won McLeod Medals that I know of in the recent past.
1. Michael Faulkhead (1 McLeod Medal. Announced coach immediately after winning)
2. Ryan O'Callaghan (1 McLeod Medal. Not sure if he coached in first year at Mildura or after winning medal.)
3. Jason Spivey (2 McLeod Medals. 4 years Assistant Coach before taking on Head Coach)
4. Brad Eaton (1 McLeod Medal. Immediately named coach after winning McLeod. 1 Year assistant coach at Irymple.)
5. Peter Johns (1 McLeod Medal. Coached three clubs and B&F at 3 clubs.)
6. Don Falvo (1 McLeod Medal. Didn't coach until years after winning McLeod. Believe he was assistant coach for several years before taking top job)
7. Tony Hickey (2 McLeod Medals. Coached bucket loads of Premierships whilst taking out numerous club B&F. I think he was an assistant Coach before taking over the reigns.)
8. Matthew Walder (1 McLeod Medal, 1 League Medal in Wimmera. Was assistant Coach at Sth Mildura from 1992-1997)
There is no doubt that those named are fantastic individual footballers but are they coaches.
There appears to be trend in the past 5 years that clubs are tending to look toward coaches that have been very good players and won individual awards rather than good players that have experience as coaches or Assistant Coaches in successful teams. Is it a case of clubs trying to secure good players and HOPING that they can coach??????Surely this is the age old question! Good player=good coach. Perhaps the question should be "Who have been the good coaches that have not necassarily been above average players" Perhaps a committe is more easily swayed to appoint a proven player becuase he holds some credibility.
sumo 111
13 Apr 2006, 21:12
Let's face it, most clubs in this district are competing for dollars in a pretty competative environment. A Coach with a reasonable profile is very useful in terms of attracting sponsorship and helping to get members for the club and punters through the gate. Clubs which are paying out a fairly decent sum of money for a Coach would usually feel that they will get better value for money from a Coach who can also deliver as a player.
However, even more important to a club and the Coach himself is the issue of credibility amongst the playing group. When the playing Coach does not or can not perform to a high standard on the park, it becomes very difficult for them to criticise other players or instruct them to do what the Coach can't do himself. By appointing a high quality player as Coach, clubs can at least minimise this credibility issue. Can clubs in Sunraysia afford the luxory of non - playing coaches? Only if they are really cheap!!!!
One things for sure, Eaton, Spivey, Falkhead, O"Callaghan, Bell, Maloney etc can all play footy.
I know its is extremely early for this sort of talk, but who thinks they could name the Sunraysia team of the year mid field ???
Kelvin 69
14 Apr 2006, 17:58
Spoke to Donato just before had a photo with Dalla, will be right to go, got some metal caught in his eye, bit of conjunctivitus.
Grimmet you are a knowledgable man, Nest in Nomis 2006!
I think you are spot on Ibis, clubs will use the coaching/assistant role as extra incentive to lure a player and maybe pay them more. The smart clubs still take into consideration the overall benefit for the team. We lost a couple of recruits to opposition clubs this year because of that reason. Team success is the ultimate judge of a good coach, and getting the most out of his players.
Are they comfortable Nest? I'm thinking about getting a pair myself. Did you get the Blue Sparks?
Andyt30
14 Apr 2006, 18:08
South Mildura played Irymple at no 3 oval in Mildura
Irymple 12.12:84 d South Mildura 11.16:82 in windy conditons
been listerning on hotfm online only listern from 3rd quarter
Hillite
16 Apr 2006, 00:31
Irymple and South were both missing players in Fridays game. On Fridays performance, with both teams at full strength who will take the honors.
Are the dogs outs better than the swallows.
Kelvin 69
17 Apr 2006, 11:33
Can anyone give me a review on the weekends games??
big charlie
17 Apr 2006, 16:35
does any one know if ben mathews from wentworth is the brother off bendigo bomber superstar jake mathews
Nifty78
17 Apr 2006, 18:27
Been reading the Central Murray thread, interesting to see they had a top 3 ugliest players, so thought i might get the ball rolling here.
5 - Maffew Pwott (IMPS)
4 - Adam Ridley (IMPS)
3 - Colin Keatch (MERBEIN)
2 - Stephen Gribble (IMPS)
1 - Brad (BOX JAW) Eaton (IRYMPLE):thumbsu: :thumbsu: ;) :D
Nifty78
17 Apr 2006, 18:29
Top Three Biggest Faces In The Sfl.
3 - Ben Mcphee (imps)
2 - Darren Hunter (merbein,imps)
1 - Gareth "moonface" Arentz
does any one know if ben mathews from wentworth is the brother off bendigo bomber superstar jake mathews
Yes they are brothers
Ball_Magnet
17 Apr 2006, 21:10
Top Three Biggest Faces In The Sfl.
3 - Ben Mcphee (imps)
2 - Darren Hunter (merbein,imps)
1 - Gareth "moonface" Arentz
Come on Nifty you are better than that.. This sort of rubbish talk is what has turned the cmfl thread to extinction.. I think another self imposed ban is on the cards mate.. :thumbsd: :thumbsd:
Nifty78
17 Apr 2006, 21:45
Sorry fellas, the last 2 post were done by Stephen Stinky Gribble ! He got a bit carried away with himself on his special 7 year anniversary weekend!:D :D
jimmyboy
17 Apr 2006, 21:59
Come on Nifty you are better than that.. This sort of rubbish talk is what has turned the cmfl thread to extinction.. I think another self imposed ban is on the cards mate.. :thumbsd: :thumbsd:
What are you talking about ball magnet, most of your posts have been abusive, you havent offered a good opinion yet:eek:
Ball_Magnet
17 Apr 2006, 22:04
What are you talking about ball magnet, most of your posts have been abusive, you havent offered a good opinion yet:eek:
Well sorry Hitler or should i say "Mike Sheehan" ill be keeping a very close eye on your hard hitting posts.. They better be good.. :mad:
Kelvin 69
17 Apr 2006, 23:17
What are you talking about ball magnet, most of your posts have been abusive, you havent offered a good opinion yet:eek:
Im with you Jimmyboy, he has not offered a decent post yet:thumbsd: :thumbsd:
The Nest
18 Apr 2006, 09:27
Are they comfortable Nest? I'm thinking about getting a pair myself. Did you get the Blue Sparks?
Got the Blue Sparks, most comfortable boot I have worn. Maybe we should try to convince Yaaablett to get them in his shop...
The Nest
18 Apr 2006, 09:32
Been reading the Central Murray thread, interesting to see they had a top 3 ugliest players, so thought i might get the ball rolling here.
5 - Maffew Pwott (IMPS)
4 - Adam Ridley (IMPS)
3 - Colin Keatch (MERBEIN)
2 - Stephen Gribble (IMPS)
1 - Brad (BOX JAW) Eaton (IRYMPLE):thumbsu: :thumbsu: ;) :D
i know 4 of those players, but who is Stepheno Gribble? Does he play in the SFL? I have never heard of him. Is he a recruit to the league? Who does he play for? Would be a bit harsh to call a new player to the league the 2nd ugliest bloke. Must look like a hairy orangutan's b u m h o l e!
Rodman24
18 Apr 2006, 13:45
i know 4 of those players, but who is Stepheno Gribble? Does he play in the SFL? I have never heard of him. Is he a recruit to the league? Who does he play for? Would be a bit harsh to call a new player to the league the 2nd ugliest bloke. Must look like a hairy orangutan's b u m h o l e!
Stepheno Gribble is a new bloke in town, he apparently is working as a bean picker on a local block and came across Aussie Rules by mistake, a quick mover who is playing for Imps.:D :D :D :D :D :D
Stepheno Gribble is a new bloke in town, he apparently is working as a bean picker on a local block and came across Aussie Rules by mistake, a quick mover who is playing for Imps.:D :D :D :D :D :D
Stephen deserves more praise than that.
mullethead
18 Apr 2006, 14:30
heres one for you if you could have one player from each list who would it be......Here is my view
Wentworth- Belly, not too many game breakers around but he is one of them.
Irymple- Donato, dont think we have seen the best of him up here yet but watch out
Mildura- Vinning, interesting choice I know but is the in and under bloke that feeds all the runners, I really like this kid.
Imperials- now that vera is retired i will take Mick Hickey, not many forwards are as quick and as smart as him, can break it open
Red Cliffs- Faulkhead, enough said.
Robinvale- a quarter fit Falvo is still good enough
Merbein- Keatch, is there anyone else
South- Gathercole, Mcleod favorite at this early stage and every club would love him
The Nest
18 Apr 2006, 15:28
heres one for you if you could have one player from each list who would it be......Here is my view
Wentworth- Belly, not too many game breakers around but he is one of them.
Irymple- Donato, dont think we have seen the best of him up here yet but watch out
Mildura- Vinning, interesting choice I know but is the in and under bloke that feeds all the runners, I really like this kid.
Imperials- now that vera is retired i will take Mick Hickey, not many forwards are as quick and as smart as him, can break it open
Red Cliffs- Faulkhead, enough said.
Robinvale- a quarter fit Falvo is still good enough
Merbein- Keatch, is there anyone else
South- Gathercole, Mcleod favorite at this early stage and every club would love him
It would all depend on what you needed Joe Dirt, some teams would prefer a midfielder and others need a big man.
I tend to agree with you on most of those. Would love to have the Hards Boys in my team though. Also, young Tom Treloar from Reddy could develop into one of the better big man in the league. Brent O'Connor from Robinvale aswell. Nice topic supers...
harry the bad man
18 Apr 2006, 16:31
u can throw wazza stevens in as merbeins x factor if u want, apologies to keatch, spicer and reid. The bad man snuck up to robinvale on the weekend to watch the worst game of footy he has seen in years. Wazza is the only bloke i know who can spend 100 minutes on the field and only have a solitary possession. The coaches have bitten off more they can chew, infact i think Jamie Keenan has bitten the bottom out of too many KFC buckets. F*%k keep you r feet man. My godfather, would anybody like to respond - just how bad are merbein travelling?
Hillite
18 Apr 2006, 18:15
How does Merbein recover from the Neagle years. They should have woken up by now and at least got their junior sides firing so there are numbers coming up.
I guess it can only be a gradual process. But can they be patient and breed up the basis of a good side or will they blow the budget and go mad with the check book?
carlos' roos
18 Apr 2006, 18:19
u can throw wazza stevens in as merbeins x factor if u want, apologies to keatch, spicer and reid. The bad man snuck up to robinvale on the weekend to watch the worst game of footy he has seen in years. Wazza is the only bloke i know who can spend 100 minutes on the field and only have a solitary possession. The coaches have bitten off more they can chew, infact i think Jamie Keenan has bitten the bottom out of too many KFC buckets. F*%k keep you r feet man. My godfather, would anybody like to respond - just how bad are merbein travelling?
Yeah man the last two years have been horrible. I live in melb now so i'm not playing. Was home for easter on the weekend played twos same result as the seniors. They will not win a game this year although i didn't think we would last year and we did. The only hope is catch a side on an off day and hope my brother kicks 6 or 7
How does Merbein recover from the Neagle years. They should have woken up by now and at least got their junior sides firing so there are numbers coming up.
I guess it can only be a gradual process. But can they be patient and breed up the basis of a good side or will they blow the budget and go mad with the check book?
How do you suggest Merbin get their juniors firing???:confused: its not that easy if you dont have genuine talent to begin with, I was at the Merbin v Robinvale match. Robinvale showed glimpses of why they were considered a force a few years back. They have recruited extremely well with the two Keam brothers, and John Harley. although they might not be premireship meterial, they will certainly cause a few upsets. All i can say for merbin is that its going to be a long year.
carlos' roos
18 Apr 2006, 21:13
How do you suggest Merbin get their juniors firing???:confused: its not that easy if you dont have genuine talent to begin with, I was at the Merbin v Robinvale match. Robinvale showed glimpses of why they were considered a force a few years back. They have recruited extremely well with the two Keam brothers, and John Harley. although they might not be premireship meterial, they will certainly cause a few upsets. All i can say for merbin is that its going to be a long year.
Merbein have their best juniors playing ones atm. Zac Robertson, Andrew Davis these boys played while i was there last year and showed great potential. Sadly there is nobody else coming through. Rohan Malic an up and comer who will play good senior footy went to imps last year, besides that the last batch of youngsters merbein had are now 18-20 and still playing ie, brad congress, joey cavallo and paul jenkins. Megsy Duscher is out millewa and ben duscher after a good TAC Cup season has gone to Neagle at Balranald. If the pies could get all there original juniors back they would come on and play finals in a few years, until then i'm afraid its one 60 point hiding after another
Hillite
18 Apr 2006, 22:08
So they have a basis to work from. They must work at retaining the guys they've got. They have then got to get all the local good players back at the club. South have done it Irymple as well. Both these clubs would have 200 plus kids each Sunday looking for a game. Merbein have must work towards this as well. I'm sure they know all this already though.
South had to forfeit a ressies game a few years ago things were going so bad. Irymple got some horrible floggings as well. Lets hope the pies can do it.
xfactor
18 Apr 2006, 22:18
jus in regards 2 some juniors wonderin how the 2 monsters from south avery n trevidi r goin. played quite well in last yrs u18 grand final. how r they deveolpin n wat r there prospects like 4 this yr??
also leske played quite well for imps in that game. can some1 update me on him?? jus how he is progressin n stuff n what his prospects r 4 this yr?
THE_BEAST
18 Apr 2006, 22:41
Just curious as to whether anyone knows of any players from the Sunraysia league heading to play for Ouyen United in the Mallee League this season?
Just curious as to whether anyone knows of any players from the Sunraysia league heading to play for Ouyen United in the Mallee League this season?
If you read the Sunraysia transfers page the two Hahnel brothers from Red Cliffs were trying to get clearances to Ouyen till they got rejected. Did they play on the weekend for Red Cliffs?
mullethead
19 Apr 2006, 09:32
So they have a basis to work from. They must work at retaining the guys they've got. They have then got to get all the local good players back at the club. South have done it Irymple as well. Both these clubs would have 200 plus kids each Sunday looking for a game. Merbein have must work towards this as well. I'm sure they know all this already though.
South had to forfeit a ressies game a few years ago things were going so bad. Irymple got some horrible floggings as well. Lets hope the pies can do it.Hang on lets not feel to sorry for them, people have a short memory, they won back to back only a few years ago!!!!!!! I am dam sure Irymple dont feel sorry for them after their drought!!!!!
mullethead
19 Apr 2006, 10:15
It would all depend on what you needed Joe Dirt, some teams would prefer a midfielder and others need a big man.
I tend to agree with you on most of those. Would love to have the Hards Boys in my team though. Also, young Tom Treloar from Reddy could develop into one of the better big man in the league. Brent O'Connor from Robinvale aswell. Nice topic supers...You would have no need for Treloar as according to Delray you have the league's best ruckman dont you????
harry the bad man
19 Apr 2006, 15:09
Merbein have their best juniors playing ones atm. Zac Robertson, Andrew Davis these boys played while i was there last year and showed great potential. Sadly there is nobody else coming through. Rohan Malic an up and comer who will play good senior footy went to imps last year, besides that the last batch of youngsters merbein had are now 18-20 and still playing ie, brad congress, joey cavallo and paul jenkins. Megsy Duscher is out millewa and ben duscher after a good TAC Cup season has gone to Neagle at Balranald. If the pies could get all there original juniors back they would come on and play finals in a few years, until then i'm afraid its one 60 point hiding after another
when is 'the intimidating' guy richards lookalike Joey Wright gunna be back bustin packs apart for merbs? he is another who could challenge for pole position in the 5 ugliest players in the comp award
Yaaablett
19 Apr 2006, 17:59
I see Mick Dedini played for Charlton on the weekend on permit. Irymple obviously didn't throw enough at him. Any reply Nest, Delray? Did you guys know this?
I was just wondering where south gun leigh gathercole played last year was it with south ? is he originally from mildura ???:confused:
Ibis100
19 Apr 2006, 22:38
I was just wondering where south gun leigh gathercole played last year was it with south ? is he originally from mildura ???:confused:
Gathers played all his junior footy at South and played in the 1998 Premiership team as a 16 yr old. He went to Pioneers then to Diggers.
Was assistant Coach at Duotta Stars in Essendon District Football League last year before coming back to the doggies this year.
The Nest
20 Apr 2006, 11:36
I see Mick Dedini played for Charlton on the weekend on permit. Irymple obviously didn't throw enough at him. Any reply Nest, Delray? Did you guys know this?
He is still studying, so he needs money to live. As for him playing for Charlton, I was talking to him face to face on Saturday afternoon, and he had been on a houseboat with his brothers, so I cant see when he might have had the chance to get away to Charlton. Unless it was on the Sunday.
I notice Ben Duscher has transfered to Sandhurst. Any Merbein fellas wanna comment? He would have been handy to get back this year!
Yaaablett
20 Apr 2006, 14:35
He is still studying, so he needs money to live. As for him playing for Charlton, I was talking to him face to face on Saturday afternoon, and he had been on a houseboat with his brothers, so I cant see when he might have had the chance to get away to Charlton. Unless it was on the Sunday.
Got the mail from the Nth Central site. Have a look.
Grimmett
20 Apr 2006, 14:54
He is still studying, so he needs money to live. As for him playing for Charlton, I was talking to him face to face on Saturday afternoon, and he had been on a houseboat with his brothers, so I cant see when he might have had the chance to get away to Charlton. Unless it was on the Sunday.
He wouldn't have played on the Easter weekend as the NCFL was inactive. I'd guess it would mean the weekend before when Charlton kicked off their season in round one.
I notice Ben Duscher has transfered to Sandhurst. Any Merbein fellas wanna comment? He would have been handy to get back this year!
benny would have been very handy to get back this year santo, unfortunatley due to extinuating circumstances he's gone down to the slagheads! his presence will be sorely missed
burntoshine
20 Apr 2006, 17:22
u can throw wazza stevens in as merbeins x factor if u want, apologies to keatch, spicer and reid. The bad man snuck up to robinvale on the weekend to watch the worst game of footy he has seen in years. Wazza is the only bloke i know who can spend 100 minutes on the field and only have a solitary possession. The coaches have bitten off more they can chew, infact i think Jamie Keenan has bitten the bottom out of too many KFC buckets. F*%k keep you r feet man. My godfather, would anybody like to respond - just how bad are merbein travelling?
pretty true harry the bad man, was at the vale on the weekend and merbein are disgraceful. makes you wonder why they didn't do some more recruiting in the off season, could have gone after a few eligable nangiloc players. the ransomes and that big storer would have been handy. does anyone know of any nangiloc players heading to s.f.l clubs?
burntoshine
20 Apr 2006, 17:51
pretty true harry, i was at the vale at the weekend and merbein are terrible. makes you wonder why they didn't recruit better in the off season. they should have chased a few players from nangiloc. the ransomes and that big storer, were there any other handy players on offer?
Will_Denis
20 Apr 2006, 18:58
I was wondering how Robinvale were travelling so far in to the season can any one give me any insights ???
DOCKERS
20 Apr 2006, 20:47
[quote=Santoz]If you read the Sunraysia transfers page the two Hahnel brothers from Red Cliffs were trying to get clearances to Ouyen till they got rejected. Did they play on the weekend for Red Cliffs?[/quote
I'm from Murrayville but playing in the Mallee League this year and have a mate who tells me the Hahnel boys go quite well but he's not sure who they are playing for at this stage. Marco Hahnel very good in junior football, how's he going lately?]
The Hahnel boys are both playing for Reddy this week but then off to Ouyen for the start of the Mallee league season. Real shame cos they can both play.
I was wondering how Robinvale were travelling so far in to the season can any one give me any insights ???
Havent recruited well... Lost a few... looks a bleek year for the eagles
cheeseburger
21 Apr 2006, 16:49
what are the tips for this weekends matches boys?
Mildura v Merbein - No 1 Oval
Irymple v Imperials - Irymple
Red Cliffs v Wentworth - Red Cliffs
South Mildura v Robinvale FNC - No 3 Oval
Mildura should do it fairly comfortably over the struggling Pies. Irymple won in a hard slog last weekend, they should do so in a close encounter this weekend. Wentworth were unlucky last week against the Dees and still not playing their best footy, should account for the Tigers without too much trouble. South are playing decent footy, their midfield will get over the top of Robinvales and I can't see anyone holding Haase. There you go cheesy, how bout yours ...
Will_Denis
22 Apr 2006, 00:01
Round 3 Odds
Mildura $1.05 Vs Merbin $20 mildura have too many good players the
magpies will struggle to contain the likes of o'callaghan,vinning and hosking,
Irymple $2.00 Vs Imperials $1.40 generous odds for irymple but the green and white brigade has genuine depth and discipline, irymple need to play as a team especialy the midfield and pump it quickly to the likes of eagle if they are to win the grand final rematch.
Red Cliffs$1.60 Vs Wentworth$3.00 tuff game to decide but Red Cliffs young army might prove a hand full for an experienced wentworth. wentworth unconvincing so far this year and their team doesnt quite look balanced, altough the pressure of senior footy might prove too much for the young tigers
South Mildura $1.20 Vs Robinvale $4.00 decent odds for robinvale but they will find it tough a againts south, Harley is capable of keeping haase quiet. souths midfeild too strong and expose robinvales lack of height.
[quote=Will_Denis]Round 3 Odds
Red Cliffs$1.60 Vs Wentworth$3.00 quote]
Red cliffs to beat wentworth ? yeah the team does have couple of dark patches but they are capable of finishing well in the top 4. a good mixture of young and old they also have the "bell factor" in goals. I liked your prediction for south v robinvale Harley and Hasse match up would be a ripper i reackon. harley doesnt know when to pull out of a pack situation as for hassey well he generally kicks bags against the lesser clubs. an exciting week in sunraysia football
Ibis100
22 Apr 2006, 10:01
Round 3 Odds
Mildura $1.05 Vs Merbin $20 mildura have too many good players the
magpies will struggle to contain the likes of o'callaghan,vinning and hosking,
Irymple $2.00 Vs Imperials $1.40 generous odds for irymple but the green and white brigade has genuine depth and discipline, irymple need to play as a team especialy the midfield and pump it quickly to the likes of eagle if they are to win the grand final rematch.
Red Cliffs$1.60 Vs Wentworth$3.00 tuff game to decide but Red Cliffs young army might prove a hand full for an experienced wentworth. wentworth unconvincing so far this year and their team doesnt quite look balanced, altough the pressure of senior footy might prove too much for the young tigers
South Mildura $1.20 Vs Robinvale $4.00 decent odds for robinvale but they will find it tough a againts south, Harley is capable of keeping haase quiet. souths midfeild too strong and expose robinvales lack of height.
Give me the odds for South and Robinvale if Fox were to make his first game today.
Kelvin 69
23 Apr 2006, 01:27
Havent recruited well... Lost a few... looks a bleek year for the eagles
Deamly, did you wear No. 27 in Tyntynder reserves yesterday?
Kelvin 69
23 Apr 2006, 11:59
Any results?
Ball_Magnet
23 Apr 2006, 13:41
Any results?
Anyone got any info from the games yesty? Souths, were they missing anyone because the vale gave them a run for there money end they had 4-5 senior players out might have went the other way? Also anyone got any information on the extent of the injury to imp's full forward Gareth Arentz heard he dislocated his hip?? Any truths there.. Very painfull if true.. Wish u a speedy recovery Garry.. :thumbsu: :thumbsu:
Will_Denis
23 Apr 2006, 16:07
Give me the odds for South and Robinvale if Fox were to make his first game today.
I am sure if Fox was to play robinvales odds would of increase $1.50 and south's decrease 10c. I am sure Fox would of exposed Robinvales lack of hieght and caused alot of trouble for the eagles.
I heard robinvale played quite well against the doggy's. does any one know who got in the best for robinvale and for south, also i heard a rumour that micheal hooker was supposed to play ressies for robinvale last week against merbin but didnt end up playing, did he end up playing ressies for robinvale this week, he would be a great inclusion for the robinvale outfit. also any results from quandong park last night ??
mullethead
23 Apr 2006, 20:24
Nest, well played on the weekend I thought your return game was about as good as u could expect and you were too good for us in the end, but a good game in all. But please if young Condo is going to wear those boots he must get more of the ball than that....I know he is only young but please nest, those boots are evn a bit out there for even you
The Nest
24 Apr 2006, 16:21
Nest, well played on the weekend I thought your return game was about as good as u could expect and you were too good for us in the end, but a good game in all. But please if young Condo is going to wear those boots he must get more of the ball than that....I know he is only young but please nest, those boots are evn a bit out there for even you
Thanks Mullet. Was a good contest. The boots you are referring to are quite bright, but to be honest I dont even notice them anymore and if he wants to bring more attention to himself then that is his choice as long as he keeps getting a kick. So did you have a run mullet, were you part of the reserves team that was defeated or the seniors?
More injuries to come out of the weekends games. The swallows have lost Curran, Byrnes, Carn, Hancock, from the weekends team to go with Morris, Jess, Bryans, Ransome & Hollingworth. Also, the G-Train went off injured for Imperials to worsen their already long injury list. Zadow, Hards x 2, Mills, Congdon, Malic. Any other injury reports from the weekends games? Seems the Dees are having a good run.
Yaaablett
24 Apr 2006, 16:44
The big question is where is Hot Dogs 17? After his much publicised scrap with Gutsy, he has disappeared as has Gutsy. Could they be one and the same? Food for thought.
I was watching Imps and the swallows on Sat and was wondering if i could gather some information on a Stephen Gribble (according to the footy record) that played for Imps. I was not familiar with him in the line up and thought he showed bursts of class. One instance was a caught with the ball on the swallows coach. Anyone have any valuable information on this very talented youngster?
IMPSTAR
24 Apr 2006, 18:45
I was watching Imps and the swallows on Sat and was wondering if i could gather some information on a Stephen Gribble (according to the footy record) that played for Imps. I was not familiar with him in the line up and thought he showed bursts of class. One instance was a caught with the ball on the swallows coach. Anyone have any valuable information on this very talented youngster?
Steven gribble does have alot of talent and an amazing burst of speed as shown on the weekend when he ran down the irymple coach, brad eaton who got holding the ball. Not sure if he will be in our full strength team though, (just shows how good we are) He actually just got a job at doms polishing the floor boards which he is fantastic at.
Skeeterman
25 Apr 2006, 12:32
Ibis what are your thoughts on Robinvale?
I understand Falvo didn't play and they still gave you guys a run for your money. Personally I wrote them off early but I think I may have jumped the gun.
How did your boys perform, did they have a bad day or are Robinvale going to cause more than a few headaches this year.
With Falvo and Hooker back in the team the vale might just be the team to shape the final 4, easily a 5 goal better side at home if not more.
More injuries to come out of the weekends games. The swallows have lost Curran, Byrnes, Carn, Hancock, from the weekends team to go with Morris, Jess, Bryans, Ransome & Hollingworth. Also, the G-Train went off injured for Imperials to worsen their already long injury list. Zadow, Hards x 2, Mills, Congdon, Malic. Any other injury reports from the weekends games? Seems the Dees are having a good run.
Maybe there's just a good injury management system in place down there at Demonland this season. I hear a few of the Demons players wear their skins underneath their jeans at Doms after a game. Is this the league standard or are the boys onto something new?
Will_Denis
25 Apr 2006, 12:56
What a year it is shaping to be in the sfl, there is going to be an amazing fight for 4th spot this year, Mildura,Wentworth and Robinvale all capable of taking 4th spot. I feel as though with the inclusion of hooker to the robinvale side well able them to reward their midfielders more. the eagles will now have a number of targets up foward including youngsters josh healy and brent o'conner (bagged 5 against south) and now hooker. But Mildura look the better team on paper. i dont know enough about wentworth this year to commit so far any coments ??
What a year it is shaping to be in the sfl, there is going to be an amazing fight for 4th spot this year, Mildura,Wentworth and Robinvale all capable of taking 4th spot. I feel as though with the inclusion of hooker to the robinvale side well able them to reward their midfielders more. the eagles will now have a number of targets up foward including youngsters josh healy and brent o'conner (bagged 5 against south) and now hooker. But Mildura look the better team on paper. i dont know enough about wentworth this year to commit so far any coments ??
I'll comment if you don't mind ...
How and why South Mildura may finish Fourth, not Robinvale
They're a good team down there at the Bulldogs don't get me wrong but they might just finish fourth, here's why ...
With Riordan already out injured they can't afford to lose Fox or the bulk of the ruck work will be left to Cook who will try all day but is better suited to a wing or forward flank. South are pretty much reliant on Fox contesting the ruck taps then filling in the hole at CHB, he's infamous for it and i reckon with his age, he'll struggle to last the season.
Another key for South is Haase. Fantastic effort last year of pretty much carrying the Dogs in the goal kicking department but again with Haase the question is age. South lack a tall key forward (like Bell, Cardew or Simms) and I reckon when they're under the pump across the midfield they'll fall down because of it. His form so far this year is great but he has kicked his goals against the lesser opposition. Will find it tougher against the better sides. His back up in Thomas is too hit and miss I believe. Can kick 5 one week and go touchless the next.
Their strength is their midfield undoubtedly. If they get on top they will kick the ball down Haase's throat all day. Gathercole and Spivey lead the way for them in the middle and if you can keep those two quiet other sides will go a long way to winning the game (which is easier said than done). When their inside players are firing Hamdorf will get possessions. When they aren't, he'll struggle.
The draw may also play against South too. The play Imperials and Irymple 3 times each and then of course the other two contenders in Wentworth and Mildura twice. A fair few of these games could go either way and I believe they'll go against South like we saw against Irymple on good friday.
That's it from me on this topic. Just my point of view on the top four. BTW, if Bell is out for a few weeks, I'm tipping Wentworth to lose the next 3 on the trot. Irymple, South then Imps will knockem off consecutively and they'll slip away from the pack.
Irymple, Imps, Mildura then South is my top four Will Denis. If Robinvale knock Mildura off this weekend i'll change my mind on them not being contenders and give them some consideration.;)
Yaablet You got my footy's yet or what.
Now that the season is starting to settle down! Whats the goss on M.Alvey will he return in 06 for the Roos? my mail is that he will not, can any 1 closer to the source confirm? Is Bell gunna miss a couple? Without them 2 will W/W have enough depth to hold down 4th Spot??
How Good are Mildura going at the moment! Can they keep that form up all year? Great talls do they have enough depth if injuries happen to hit?
Hillite
25 Apr 2006, 16:59
Good to see you back into it Delray.
I guess tonight will reveal the extent of the injuries at Irymple .
Can they cover them?
Any key position players waiting in the wings???????
In Maxies paper Bell reckons it was a cramp. I'll guess you'll know next Saturday.
With Bell in next week and Irymple having more than a few injuries I would of given Wenty a show but no Bell no chance for the Roos.
Who was raving about the big recruit expected at Irymple? Doesn't seem to have eventuated but if it was true this week would be e good time to reveal him.
Steven gribble does have alot of talent and an amazing burst of speed as shown on the weekend when he ran down the irymple coach, brad eaton who got holding the ball. Not sure if he will be in our full strength team though, (just shows how good we are) He actually just got a job at doms polishing the floor boards which he is fantastic at.
Oh ok thanks Impstar so he prob won't be in a full strength side, well I will be sure to keep an eye on him.... Leadership written all over this one:thumbsu:
The Nest
26 Apr 2006, 09:50
Maybe there's just a good injury management system in place down there at Demonland this season. I hear a few of the Demons players wear their skins underneath their jeans at Doms after a game. Is this the league standard or are the boys onto something new?
We have only had one soft tissue injury out of all of ours and that is Pat Jess who does his hammy every year! You cant do much about a collarbone or a fractured vertibrae. As for the skins, I know some players who wear them after a game, they arent the same guys that go out to Doms though. If you are injured you shouldnt really be on the gas trying to belt the backs out of sheilers in Doms, but try telling that to some of the young blokes going around at the moment!
Some great posts from you Santoz, keep up the good work.
JohnGastev
26 Apr 2006, 10:53
Does Stephen "Sand Monkey" Gribble have the biggest pair of shorts in the comp? The rumor is he had to borrow a pair of Chris Sharman's shorts from 2000, but they look new to me. For a reasonably trim man to be wearing size 48 shorts seems outrageous
JohnGastev
26 Apr 2006, 10:55
Also I read that the Sand Monkey ran down Brad Eaton at the weekend. I'm assuming, despite the result, that you've been hearing a bit about that one, Brad??
chalkie
26 Apr 2006, 11:35
Quote/ If you are injured you shouldnt really be on the gas trying to belt the backs out of sheilers in Doms, but try telling that to some of the young blokes going around at the moment!
Gee Nest, you sure have a short memory!! I can remember coahing a fantastic group of young guys in 2000 in the u/18's, that regularly turned up to training and Saturday mornings complaining of having little skin left on his manhood. The coach was most impressed that several of his players were 'putting in' many extra training sessions:)
Quote/ If you are injured you shouldnt really be on the gas trying to belt the backs out of sheilers in Doms, but try telling that to some of the young blokes going around at the moment!
Gee Nest, you sure have a short memory!! I can remember coahing a fantastic group of young guys in 2000 in the u/18's, that regularly turned up to training and Saturday mornings complaining of having little skin left on his manhood. The coach was most impressed that several of his players were 'putting in' many extra training sessions:)
It wasn't long ago that that particular coach used to be the ring leader for that sort of behaviour either. Is this true Chalkie??
The Nest
26 Apr 2006, 18:42
Gee Nest, you sure have a short memory!! I can remember coahing a fantastic group of young guys in 2000 in the u/18's, that regularly turned up to training and Saturday mornings complaining of having little skin left on his manhood. The coach was most impressed that several of his players were 'putting in' many extra training sessions:)[/quote]
You didnt see me missing training or getting injured though. I was just letting the baby snake do some exploring, they need to when they are young, find out where they belong. Actually, the fully grown snake still seems to want to do a bit of exploring these days. Unfortunately, I cant let him loose in Doms these days, bit dangerous, might clear the floor.
Will_Denis
26 Apr 2006, 19:10
can any one tell why Don Falvo didnt play for Robinvale on the weekend, would it of been a different story if he had of played ???
Kelvin 69
26 Apr 2006, 19:34
can any one tell why Don Falvo didnt play for Robinvale on the weekend, would it of been a different story if he had of played ???
Donny had to take his daughter to Adelaide for a check up:thumbsu: :thumbsu:
[/QUOTE] I was just letting the baby snake do some exploring, they need to when they are young, find out where they belong. Actually, the fully grown snake still seems to want to do a bit of exploring these days. Unfortunately, I cant let him loose in Doms these days, bit dangerous, might clear the floor.[/QUOTE]
I can back you up here mate. I compare your little snake to a great explorer by the name of Captain Cook. But i think you may even have him covered!:D :D :D
Ibis100
27 Apr 2006, 09:30
Ibis what are your thoughts on Robinvale?
I understand Falvo didn't play and they still gave you guys a run for your money. Personally I wrote them off early but I think I may have jumped the gun.
How did your boys perform, did they have a bad day or are Robinvale going to cause more than a few headaches this year.
With Falvo and Hooker back in the team the vale might just be the team to shape the final 4, easily a 5 goal better side at home if not more.
Robinvale were good for three quarters, they probably played to thier best whereas my boys were woeful. If we had played any wider we might as well have played on 11th Street itself. Not taking away from Robinvale, they will be a very good side and I am tipping them to beat Mildura this weekend. Hooker played in the twos and with Harley and Falvo back in the side they will be hard to beat at home. Certainly don't right them off at this stage. But back to my boys they finished off extremely well in the last quarter and Robinvale just couldn't match us when we starting playing to our game plan. 11 scoring shots to 4 in the last with 7 goals 4 behinds to 3 goals 1. I think that shows my boys were well and truly below thier best for 3 quarters.
Ibis100
27 Apr 2006, 10:11
I'll comment if you don't mind ...
How and why South Mildura may finish Fourth, not Robinvale
They're a good team down there at the Bulldogs don't get me wrong but they might just finish fourth, here's why ...
With Riordan already out injured they can't afford to lose Fox or the bulk of the ruck work will be left to Cook who will try all day but is better suited to a wing or forward flank. South are pretty much reliant on Fox contesting the ruck taps then filling in the hole at CHB, he's infamous for it and i reckon with his age, he'll struggle to last the season.
Another key for South is Haase. Fantastic effort last year of pretty much carrying the Dogs in the goal kicking department but again with Haase the question is age. South lack a tall key forward (like Bell, Cardew or Simms) and I reckon when they're under the pump across the midfield they'll fall down because of it. His form so far this year is great but he has kicked his goals against the lesser opposition. Will find it tougher against the better sides. His back up in Thomas is too hit and miss I believe. Can kick 5 one week and go touchless the next.
Their strength is their midfield undoubtedly. If they get on top they will kick the ball down Haase's throat all day. Gathercole and Spivey lead the way for them in the middle and if you can keep those two quiet other sides will go a long way to winning the game (which is easier said than done). When their inside players are firing Hamdorf will get possessions. When they aren't, he'll struggle.
The draw may also play against South too. The play Imperials and Irymple 3 times each and then of course the other two contenders in Wentworth and Mildura twice. A fair few of these games could go either way and I believe they'll go against South like we saw against Irymple on good friday.
That's it from me on this topic. Just my point of view on the top four. BTW, if Bell is out for a few weeks, I'm tipping Wentworth to lose the next 3 on the trot. Irymple, South then Imps will knockem off consecutively and they'll slip away from the pack.
Irymple, Imps, Mildura then South is my top four Will Denis. If Robinvale knock Mildura off this weekend i'll change my mind on them not being contenders and give them some consideration.;)
Santoz, Santoz, Santoz.
Let me begin shooting you down from the start of your dribble.
Can't afford to lose Fox. We played the first two games without Fox and Riordo only played 2 quarters of footy. We are sitting 2 wins and 1 loss (2 points to Irymple without Fox or Riordo) and Fox played in the fwd pocket for over 50% of the game against Robinvale. Cook has been consistently the best ruckman in every game and had a quiet year playing on a wing H/F last year.
Do you have any idea how old Fox is. He is 31. Does that mean we can expect to see Deckert, Connick and anyone around the 30 year age group to struggle to see out the year?
Now to Haase. He is certainly getting on in age but like a fine wine he only seems to get better. Have you even looked at the goals he as kicked this year. He has 17 goals in 3 games and kicked 3 against Irymple who most people will tell you aren't ordinary competition. Eagle who played VFL footy last year and is half his age only managed 3 as well, does that mean he will struggle to?????? All players get it tougher when playing harder opposition, hence why we don't see players kick 6 goals every game. And South were under the pump on the weekend across the midfield but he still managed 6 goals so that sort of buggers that view as well.
Thomas, HIT AND MISS. Have you looked at the goal kicking? 1. He has been playing on a wing. 2. He has kicked 4 goals in two of the first 3 games.
Hamdorf is an inside player. I would like you to attend a game and actually count how many times he gets up off the bottom of a pack holding the ball.
I think you should have another look at the draw. Imperials and Irymple have a harder draw than South. Imperials play Mildura, South and Irymple 3 times while Irymple play Imperials, South and Wentworth 3 times.
Therefore, South play two of the possible top 4 teams whilst Imps and Irymple play 3 of the possible top 4 sides. Imps with thier run of bad luck with injuries are a possibility to be 1 win and 5 losses over the next couple of weeks seeing they play South, robinvale, and Wentworth. Would be hard to come back from that if it were to happen.
Sorry Santoz, don't agree with any of your write up mate.
Nifty78
27 Apr 2006, 10:38
Santoz, Santoz, Santoz.
Imps with thier run of bad luck with injuries are a possibility to be 1 win and 5 losses over the next couple of weeks seeing they play South, robinvale, and Wentworth. Would be hard to come back from that if it were to happen.
Sorry Santoz, don't agree with any of your write up mate.
Don't agree either, South will be top 3, But IMPS are a real possibility of being 4 wins and 2 losses, they won the flag in 2004 from being 1 and 5. Wouldn't be writing them off just yet !
Yaaablett
27 Apr 2006, 10:57
Fox- 31? Have I missed the timewarp?
Ibis100
27 Apr 2006, 11:14
Don't agree either, South will be top 3, But IMPS are a real possibility of being 4 wins and 2 losses, they won the flag in 2004 from being 1 and 5. Wouldn't be writing them off just yet !
Would never right off Imps. Just an observation of their bad luck with injuries and a hard 3 weeks for them.
Ibis100
27 Apr 2006, 11:17
Fox- 31? Have I missed the timewarp?
I had to make a phone call Yaaablett but the man himself just corrected me. He is in fact only 30 (Younger than me, God I feel old now) and said to let Santoz know he managed every game last year as the only ruckman at south and this year we have 3 with Cook and Roirodo so he sees no reason why he shouldn't run the season out.
[quote=Delray]Now that the season is underway is m.alvey gunna make it back my mail is that he will not, can any 1 closer to the source confirm? Is Bell gunna miss a couple? Without them 2 will W/W have enough depth to hold down 4th Spot??
How Good are Mildura going at the moment! Can they keep that form up all year? Great talls do they have enough depth if injuries happen to hit?[/quote
hey delray can confirm bell will miss 2-4 wks big loss with a tough month coming up, alvey will be touch and go due back just b4 finals... also any truth in the rumour that spivey has a broken hand but intends on playing on with it....??
hey nifty hear u cleaned up on the half time full time double between ess and da pies.....???
roaring tiger
27 Apr 2006, 12:37
Robinvale were good for three quarters, they probably played to thier best whereas my boys were woeful. If we had played any wider we might as well have played on 11th Street itself. Not taking away from Robinvale, they will be a very good side and I am tipping them to beat Mildura this weekend. Hooker played in the twos and with Harley and Falvo back in the side they will be hard to beat at home. Certainly don't right them off at this stage. But back to my boys they finished off extremely well in the last quarter and Robinvale just couldn't match us when we starting playing to our game plan. 11 scoring shots to 4 in the last with 7 goals 4 behinds to 3 goals 1. I think that shows my boys were well and truly below thier best for 3 quarters.
How are the keam boys travleing up there at robinvale? Getting a kick?
What about aussie cumming and mark alvey at wentworth and is tony hickey still playing for imps?
Robbie Smith
27 Apr 2006, 13:03
Cumming still playing good footy, Mark Alvey broke his leg in the first round and Tony Hickey retired at the end of last year, but has made a few appearances at training already, don't ever write off a hickey.
Robbie Smith
27 Apr 2006, 13:06
hey Ibis, what about Big dicko, whats his story? is he gettin a run back in the seniors anytime soon? he'd be handy along with riordo, cooky and foxxy.
Nifty78
27 Apr 2006, 13:56
hey nifty hear u cleaned up on the half time full time double between ess and da pies.....???
Your heard correctly there Badds ! Tidy little profit of $650,
congrates on your maiden US tour win to Badds, praise the lord!:D
JohnGastev
27 Apr 2006, 15:28
Gday there bloody robbie. Go and ask Robbie Francis how the weathers gonna be today
Robbie Smith
27 Apr 2006, 15:53
Gday there bloody robbie. Go and ask Robbie Francis how the weathers gonna be today
oooohhh bloody pis off
Your heard correctly there Badds ! Tidy little profit of $650,
congrates on your maiden US tour win to Badds, praise the lord!:D
cheers thanks nifty good 2 finally get a win......:thumbsu:
heres my 3 best performed players so far this year in no order
-adam ridley
-leigh gathercole
-aussie cumming
special mentions
-anstey(just starting 2 warm up)
-corey and ryan.o both been very good
-denato
-b.rigby
-haase
-cardew
thoughts?? any others??
Robbie Smith
27 Apr 2006, 17:15
heres my 3 best performed players so far this year in no order
-adam ridley
-leigh gathercole
-aussie cumming
special mentions
-anstey(just starting 2 warm up)
-corey and ryan.o both been very good
-denato
-b.rigby
-haase
-cardew
thoughts?? any others??
I'd probably put the big D very high, shown plenty of agility for a big man, adam ridley is in fine form.