View Full Version : Eddie McGuire : To destroy Collingwood's TV ratings
Well that is what he has to do in NSW and Qld now he heads Ch9. He has to do everything possible to ensure that AFL games, including those involving Collingwood, are destroyed in the ratings and that people don't form an allegiance to his team in the "development" states.
He has to ensure people watch rugby league instead of Collingwood.
pieman1
10 Feb 2006, 09:57
Well that is what he has to do in NSW and Qld now he heads Ch9. He has to do everything possible to ensure that AFL games, including those involving Collingwood, are destroyed in the ratings and that people don't form an allegiance to his team in the "development" states.
He has to ensure people watch rugby league instead of Collingwood.
Eddie deals with conflicts of interest like a fat man deals with cake.
Eddie deals with conflicts of interest like a fat man deals with cake.He's playing with the big boys now. I think he'll find his position under a lot of pressure.
Lonie_from_50
10 Feb 2006, 10:03
If I was Eddie, I would just ban Rugby League from 9 except the final. ********test sport in Australia ;)
Coin_Toss
10 Feb 2006, 10:05
********test sport in Australia ;)
No, that is soccer. ;)
Coin_Toss
10 Feb 2006, 10:06
Eddie will be a success. Enough said.
Ooooooo...a potential "Eddie conflict of interest which might affect us adversely!
Let's see how much weight we give it.
*sound of crickets*
Appleyard
10 Feb 2006, 12:03
He has to ensure people watch rugby league instead of Collingwood.
Eddie will be a success. Enough said.Ouch...
He has to ensure people watch rugby league instead of Collingwood.
In the states of Queensland and NSW only.
In the real states, he'll have to promote whatever B-Grade swill they can get their hands on. I'm sure Death Wish IV is going to cause the biggest rating Club in the country a whole bunch of angst! :o
He might quit at the end of next year anyway, so please keep your conspiracy theories to the X-Files Board Lions fans.
yeah-nah
10 Feb 2006, 12:30
Ouch...
If only you were successful enough to have Eds problems.:rolleyes:
I guess running an internet site for 14 yr olds has its own rewards. Must impress the chicks at parties.
Appleyard
10 Feb 2006, 12:36
In the real states, he'll have to promote whatever B-Grade swill they can get their hands on.Do you think 9 owners and advertisers will stand for that? Or do you think they'd want a leader who does his level best to get the best ratings he can?
And what of his push to get more Pies supporters in Synny? He has said it will open opportunities. Maybe for sponsorship, but his job will be to drive AFL off of the TV screens of 50% of the Australian population. Literally he will have to put all of his weight behind the NRL in ALL states.
His new job will entail promoting Melbourne Storm over the Pies from 2007 onwards. End of story, unless 7/10 muck up in the next month or so and don't get the rights.
Appleyard
10 Feb 2006, 12:37
If only you were successful enough to have Eds problems.:rolleyes: You admit it is definitely a problem.
I guess running an internet site for 14 yr olds has its own rewards. Must impress the chicks at parties.I'm married with a child. Meeting chicks at parties is a memory.
Do you think 9 owners and advertisers will stand for that? Or do you think they'd want a leader who does his level best to get the best ratings he can?
And what of his push to get more Pies supporters in Synny? He has said it will open opportunities. Maybe for sponsorship, but his job will be to drive AFL off of the TV screens of 50% of the Australian population. Literally he will have to put all of his weight behind the NRL in ALL states.
His new job will entail promoting Melbourne Storm over the Pies from 2007 onwards. End of story, unless 7/10 muck up in the next month or so and don't get the rights.Spot on.
I don't think people realise this..
The Sydney corporate world won't stand for any potential silly buggers coming from Eddie's Collingwood allegiance..
Sydney is quite a different world to melbourne and if Eddie doeasn't realise it already he will soon know... being Eddie Mcguire doesn't get you as far in Sydney as it does in melbourne.. he has moved into the bigger pond in Sydney and he has to perform or else..
If Eddie's still Prez in 2007, then you can drag your crap theories up again. In all likelyhood, I don't think he will be. I'll be surprised if he makes the year out.
Till then, kindly remove yourselves of the Emirates Board and go back to the Lion's Den where you both clearly want to be. ;)
Appleyard
10 Feb 2006, 12:56
1) He's said he'll keep the Presidency so we can only go on that.
2) Fair enough.
Eddie will do what has to be done to ensure 9 remains number one. why do people assume that eddie isn't aware of what he has to achieve in sydney.
Oh wait a minute, ch9 is run by muppets all of a sudden because their ceo is Eddie :rolleyes:
Copa relax
If Eddie's still Prez in 2007, then you can drag your crap theories up again. In all likelyhood, I don't think he will be. I'll be surprised if he makes the year out.
Till then, kindly remove yourselves of the Emirates Board and go back to the Lion's Den where you both clearly want to be. ;)
point 1: He had to start pushing rugby league over AFL (in the Sydney market) as of yesterday. Ch9 weekends are all rugby league in sydney.
point 2: I'll bugger off then.
yeah-nah
10 Feb 2006, 13:13
You admit it is definitely a problem.
Life is full of problems. People in Eds position solve big important ones. People in yours solve 14 yr old internet geek ones.
This is why a) you dont 'understand' how he will deal with such issue and b)you have enough time to be obsessing over his problems, wishing you were important enough to have them, while he doesnt even know you exist.:rolleyes:
I'm married with a child. Meeting chicks at parties is a memory.
Mr and Mrs BigFooty. I bet that gets you the best table at restaurants.
1) He's said he'll keep the Presidency so we can only go on that.
Out of interest, what opinion does Colin Sylvias father have on the matter?
Out of interest, what opinion does Colin Sylvias father have on the matter?
Haha!
Geez, these Lions fans are easy to get rid of.
Appleyard
10 Feb 2006, 15:25
Life is full of problems. People in Eds position solve big important ones. People in yours solve 14 yr old internet geek ones.Well, you're being a bit caustic. You don't even know what my day job is. It would be better to discuss the issue at hand rather than keep trying to get my goat with personal remarks.
As for being a Lions fan, the only thing I've ever said about the team I support is that it ISN'T the Lions or the Magpies.
Sorry for taking into account your wishes figgy. But if I get vicious and slag off your team, everyone will want me on their team boards doing the same thing. I can't show favouritism and should leave when a mod ask\s me too. Obviously you were just joking so....
Appleyard
10 Feb 2006, 15:32
Now back to the point at hand - does anyone on this board really want a discussion about this or is it taboo?
The thread title is pretty anti-Eddie but is there any chance of looking past that and examining what is probably the biggest conflict of interest in the AFL? Even accounting for Spotless and any number of other conflicts, having an AFL club president as the head of the TV channel that, from 2007, will be tasked with decimating AFL viewing for at least half the population of Australia is bigger than Ben Hur.
Now back to the point at hand - does anyone on this board really want a discussion about this or is it taboo?
The thread title is pretty anti-Eddie but is there any chance of looking past that and examining what is probably the biggest conflict of interest in the AFL? Even accounting for Spotless and any number of other conflicts, having an AFL club president as the head of the TV channel that, from 2007, will be tasked with decimating AFL viewing for at least half the population of Australia is bigger than Ben Hur.
Even if he stays on next year, which isn't even remotely worth worrying about yet, then we'll appreciate that he'll try to win the ratings war against us (and by us, I mean the whole of the AFL).
But hey, which CEO of a major network wouldn't?? Many have tried. They can start running ********en prime time movies on Friday night if they're keen, but it'll get flogged by the AFL every time. If Ed wants to promote the NRL and play it prime time here, then it'll be laughed off the screen, and he'll be laughed out of a job.
And let's put it further into perspective here, 7 & 10 haven't even done the deal yet, so let's wait and see before mouthing off about some arguable problem which currently does not exist.
FFS, I thought I'd have had a few minutes break from lemmings yelling "COI, COI", but aparently the bloke can't do anything other than be a full time President (and how many of them are there again??), without having a COI. I mean seriously!!
The_Eagles
10 Feb 2006, 16:06
eddie's da man
Madd Matt
10 Feb 2006, 16:11
Now back to the point at hand - does anyone on this board really want a discussion about this or is it taboo?
The thread title is pretty anti-Eddie but is there any chance of looking past that and examining what is probably the biggest conflict of interest in the AFL? Even accounting for Spotless and any number of other conflicts, having an AFL club president as the head of the TV channel that, from 2007, will be tasked with decimating AFL viewing for at least half the population of Australia is bigger than Ben Hur.
Wasn't Ian Johnson runnning Channel 9, when they didn't have footy, while being Melbourne President? :confused:
Good God. Whatever will we do.
In full knowledge that Eddie is Eddie, that Eddie runs 9, that Eddie loves Collingwood at least as much as any of us and that 9 have the NRL rights, Eddie will face election if he decides he wants to continue as president. We’ll make OUR decision if he doesn’t make it for us and abdicates.
Personally I have every confidence that Eddie will look after Collingwood’s interests and I am pretty sure those that decided to hire him know that.
The fact is prime time Friday football means AFL in Melbourne and NRL in Sydney. That’s all there is to it. Eddie and those at 9 and PBL are not idiots. They know which product to take to which market.
Do you think 9 owners and advertisers will stand for that? Or do you think they'd want a leader who does his level best to get the best ratings he can?
And what of his push to get more Pies supporters in Synny? He has said it will open opportunities. Maybe for sponsorship, but his job will be to drive AFL off of the TV screens of 50% of the Australian population. Literally he will have to put all of his weight behind the NRL in ALL states.
His new job will entail promoting Melbourne Storm over the Pies from 2007 onwards. End of story, unless 7/10 muck up in the next month or so and don't get the rights.I think 9 know they can’t beat AFL in Melbourne. I can’t see them wasting too much quality on the relevant timeslots in order to beat 10 into second place but if they do then who cares about how many non football fans they take off 10 or vice versa.
As for Sydney I doubt there really is much ground for Collingwood to make no matter what but if there is any then Eddie is the man to make that ground. The NRL product will no doubt be flogged mercilessly. They paid a fair bit for it and it's a flagship programming arm. You think eddie won't be pitching hard for the next round of AFL rights though?
Now back to the point at hand - does anyone on this board really want a discussion about this or is it taboo?It hasn’t been discussed in a million threads over the years? Not a heck of a lot has changed in reality. Eddie has certain duties as Collingwood president. As an employee of channel 9 he has certain duties. Thus far the Collingwood members and the 9 employers have decided there is no conflict of interest that they need be concerned about. The reality is no one else has a stake in this. You as an internet mogul, an AFL fan or a television watched don’t have any real interest that Eddie has to be cognisant of. You may have interests that it would be in his commercial interest to take account of but to what degree depends on your influence over Collingwood members and/or his network bosses and I suggest that you are not very relevant to either because neither share your concerns or indeed care too much about them.
Eddie is Collingwood president. He isn’t an AFL Commissioner. He has duties to Collingwood not the AFL. The only time he owes anything to the AFL is when Collingwood say so. In fact you could argue that his duty is to annihilate (not literally of course because then Collingwood would have to reform another comp and that would cost a bit more than the few mil we can muster each year) all clubs other than Collingwood.
1) He's said he'll keep the Presidency so we can only go on that.It isn’t his to keep. He can relinquish it or Collingwood members can decide to keep him if he decides he would like to continue. As far as I know he has yet to indicate whether he will re nominate one the term for which he already been elected expires.
You're stretching it a hell of a lot if you think Eddie has to destroy AFL. He has to destroy 7/10's broadcast/ratings of AFL (if they actually get it) not the AFL's reach into the rugby areas as 9 may be looking to regain the rights in the future. If the AFL has reached into the NSW/QLD markets by the next time the rights are up, then the rights will be worth even more.
goalpie
11 Feb 2006, 09:11
Spot on.
I don't think people realise this..
The Sydney corporate world won't stand for any potential silly buggers coming from Eddie's Collingwood allegiance..
Sydney is quite a different world to melbourne and if Eddie doeasn't realise it already he will soon know... being Eddie Mcguire doesn't get you as far in Sydney as it does in melbourne.. he has moved into the bigger pond in Sydney and he has to perform or else..
Would that be pond scum.
Even accounting for Spotless and any number of other conflicts, having an AFL club president as the head of the TV channel that, from 2007, will be tasked with decimating AFL viewing for at least half the population of Australia is bigger than Ben Hur.
Eddie has stated that we will see out his term as Collingwood President. I think most people can read between the lines and assume that means he wont be re-standing in 2007.
I agree with you re conflict of interest to some extent. Next time the football rights are up for renegoatiotion (in about four years???) it may be an issue but prior to that I see no COI issues. But he'll likely be gone by then anyway.
Irrespective Eddie will look after Collingwood when and where he can, whether he's President or just a regular supporter.
rick James
11 Feb 2006, 11:12
Eddie deals with conflicts of interest like a fat man deals with cake.
He feels guilty about eating it, cries and then commits suicide?
harry 0
11 Feb 2006, 22:29
1) He's said he'll keep the Presidency so we can only go on that.
2) Fair enough.
Common FIGJAM (JTP), he may have some importance around here, but if you are a half decent moderator the Apple Cart will be banned from the Fly Emirates Board. Now go and have a Cascade.
Pie 4 Life
12 Feb 2006, 08:00
I wonder how many of our games will be telecasted? Not as many as last year I think. :(
Coin_Toss
12 Feb 2006, 08:04
I wonder how many of our games will be telecasted? Not as many as last year I think. :(
There will still be a fair few Collingwood games being telecasted on FNF. Winning or losing, we are still the biggest crowd drawer in the AFL.
magpies42
12 Feb 2006, 14:34
Do you think 9 owners and advertisers will stand for that? Or do you think they'd want a leader who does his level best to get the best ratings he can?
And what of his push to get more Pies supporters in Synny? He has said it will open opportunities. Maybe for sponsorship, but his job will be to drive AFL off of the TV screens of 50% of the Australian population. Literally he will have to put all of his weight behind the NRL in ALL states.
His new job will entail promoting Melbourne Storm over the Pies from 2007 onwards. End of story, unless 7/10 muck up in the next month or so and don't get the rights.
rubbish, afl is teh most popular sport in the country!
Common FIGJAM (JTP), he may have some importance around here, but if you are a half decent moderator the Apple Cart will be banned from the Fly Emirates Board.
Some importance?? :eek:
I have to ask him to ban himself!! :D
PS: I'm not a half decent moderator. Ask around!
I broke down the wall that FIGJAM is now able to walk through as a moderator.
I broke down the wall that FIGJAM is now able to walk through as a moderator.
I owe you a Coke*, as it's opened up a wealth of opportunities for me! ;)
* Coke Zero
Bah I would of got the job! (ok not really)
My mistake was when the big cheese messaged me asking "Have I had any problems with you in the past" and I said "Yeah except for maybe one immature post years ago". That post was responding to some troll with a poll asking whether he is as dumb as a snail on drugs. That was one of my first posts.
Damnit! I was only 14 at the time.
I got flamed by Bluey for abusing the ******** out of FitzroyJamesDio, so I hardly think the odd indiscretion will limit you from moderating.
I blame this on capitalism then.
Appleyard
16 Feb 2006, 10:27
The market does have a lot to answer for.
As opposed to what?
Starvation?
FadeAway
16 Feb 2006, 19:52
Eddie will always have Collingwood at heart, but there are other business people above him in the corporate world that he has to perform for, so it wont just be Collingwood that he will have first priority for...thats just how its goes!
I think we are all alittle afraid for him to leave Collingwood, remember his intention was never to stay at the helm at PIE LAND for ever! We will be turning it over soon.
ShepBoy
16 Feb 2006, 20:05
Do you think Eddie will stop doing the same things he is already doing just because he stops officially being the President?
Nothing will change.
Appleyard
17 Feb 2006, 20:07
Eddie will always have Collingwood at heart, but there are other business people above him in the corporate world that he has to perform for, so it wont just be Collingwood that he will have first priority for...thats just how its goes!The issue is you can't give "first priority" to more than one thing at a time. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. No matter what actually happens you can count on one group of people picking every decision to bits to look for conflicts and another group turning a blind eye to any discussion of the possibility the Eddie would be unable to handle a conflict. The sensible discussion in the middle of those two camps will be hard to find.
Your opinion's been noted and duly disregarded Adrian!
Don't make me get Fred's boot!! :p
CarnthePies
17 Feb 2006, 20:12
eddie's da man
Enough said...
eddiesmith
19 Feb 2006, 03:20
Damn Brisbane supporters