I'd like to propose a pact for BigFooty posters from all clubs....

[Gunnar Longshanks]

I realise it's hard to form a consensus on these boards, but I'd like to float the following proposition:

In 2006, let's not pretend that winning the NAB Cup counts for anything.

Let's not pretend that good form in the pre-season will translate to a great year when the real stuff starts.

Look what happened in 2005. Carlton won the pre-season competition and suddenly, "the sky was the limit" for the young Blues. We all know how that sorry saga ended.

So in 2006, let's not blow our loads quite so early. Keep it in your pants until Round 1.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Look what happened in 2005. Carlton won the pre-season competition and suddenly, "the sky was the limit" for the young Blues. We all know how that sorry saga ended.
Have said it before and will say it again, this view of what happened after the Wizard Cup last year is inaccurate, almost bordering on mythical.

Maybe a couple of fans had parrot-esque expectations but most Blues fans were cautious about the future while also enjoying the win given our lack of positives for the previous couple of years. The most prominent threads started directly after the Wiz Cup GF were started by opposition fans with many of them predicting big things for us.

It was hardly a frenzy worthy of starting a thread about 11 months later.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Have said it before and will say it again, this view of what happened after the Wizard Cup last year is inaccurate, almost bordering on mythical.

Maybe a couple of fans had parrot-esque expectations but most Blues fans were cautious about the future while also enjoying the win given our lack of positives for the previous couple of years. The most prominent threads started directly after the Wiz Cup GF were started by opposition fans with many of them predicting big things for us.It was Pagan himself who used the phrase "the sky is the limit".

And I'm not bashing Blues supporters specifically.

A lot of people - from all clubs - threw their pendulum after Carlton won the NAB Cup and started tipping them as a bolter worthy of a final 8 spot.

I'm just saying that any NAB results in 2006 should be regarded with an enormous grain of salt. Let's just resist the temptation to make the knee-jerk assessments that are so inviting after 6 months without footy.

[MeeSo]

5 of the last 6 finalists have gone on to have very good seasons. Seems like a pretty accurate form guide to me.

[JeffDunne]

Have said it before and will say it again, this view of what happened after the Wizard Cup last year is inaccurate, almost bordering on mythical.

Maybe a couple of fans had parrot-esque expectations but most Blues fans were cautious about the future while also enjoying the win given our lack of positives for the previous couple of years. The most prominent threads started directly after the Wiz Cup GF were started by opposition fans with many of them predicting big things for us.

It was hardly a frenzy worthy of starting a thread about 11 months later.

Where will the new Blues finish? (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158094)

Lose Fevola or Whitnall and we will struggle. Our game is built around having a strong forward line.

Thornton will hurt a lot too but having numbers behind the ball all the time means we have some chance of minimising the damage there.

On the fringes of the 8.

Interesting thread. Maybe you could break down the almost 50% of posters that voted Carlton for the 8.

The very next post is interesting too.

{Image removed - questionable taste, even for a mod. }

[Katthawk]

5 of the last 6 finalists have gone on to have very good seasons. Seems like a pretty accurate form guide to me.

Never heard this before. But of course life is about challenging oneself and being the best we can be hey.

Let them grow to be the best ones they can be. within the boundaries or life and torture. :D

I find all this growth ******** something to be swallowed and spat out because I just do.

[The Dice Man]

I realise it's hard to form a consensus on these boards, but I'd like to float the following proposition:

In 2006, let's not pretend that winning the NAB Cup counts for anything.

Let's not pretend that good form in the pre-season will translate to a great year when the real stuff starts.

Look what happened in 2005. Carlton won the pre-season competition and suddenly, "the sky was the limit" for the young Blues. We all know how that sorry saga ended.

So in 2006, let's not blow our loads quite so early. Keep it in your pants until Round 1.


I dont know about that, West Coast's Pre-Season form was identical to their H&A form ;)

[Katthawk]

er maybe it's something to do with sitting right near the hallowed turf of Melb Uni.

Tell me to go away. someonelse is much smarter than me. eh.


go on.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

er maybe it's something to do with sitting right near the hallowed turf of Melb Uni.

Tell me to go away. someonelse is much smarter than me. eh.


go on.Are you drunk?

[DynamoUltra]

Here's a pact: the footy's back in 10 days, let's go nuts!

[Gunnar Longshanks]

5 of the last 6 finalists have gone on to have very good seasons. Seems like a pretty accurate form guide to me.Can you back that up?

Which teams are we talking about? Did any NAB Cup winners go on and win a flag?

What constitutes a "very good" season?

[sante]

Here's a pact: the footy's back in 10 days, let's go nuts!



Agree :D

[MeeSo]

Can you back that up?

Which teams are we talking about? Did any NAB Cup winners go on and win a flag?

What constitutes a "very good" season?
Shouldn't you already know the answers to these questions?

The worst result by a Wizard Cup finalist (besides Carlton) in the last 3 years is a SF loss to the eventual premiers. The rest either made the PF or the GF.

[Coin_Toss]

I just want to see some footy!

I don't like the NAB cup, but when your team have a win, how can you not get pumped?

[Johnson#26]

We're told this every year, but its hard not to get caught up in the hype.

And look at the Grand Finallists of the 2004 competition: St.Kilda and Geelong - both went down in nailbiting Prelims that year. And Collingwood and the Crows of a year prior.

I just want the footy! :D

[shintemaster]

Here's a pact: the footy's back in 10 days, let's go nuts!

Already there... Time to break out the old tapes and get worked up again.

P.S. That didn't come out quite as I imagined...

[Johnson#26]

Already there... Time to break out the old tapes and get worked up again.

Just watched the first term of the 1996 GF. ;)

[fishbowl]

West Coast lost both 2005 Grand Finals.

[Antonius]

Already there... Time to break out the old tapes and get worked up again.
I've been doing that the past 6 months - courtesy of this site :thumbsu: (http://www.aflvideo.cjb.net)

Its a wellknown fact that NAB Cup finalists always do pretty well during the season (at least making the SF or PF). However, the best teams don't give a crap always (unless its Essendon in 2000 where its just too easy) and bomb out early.

[Powerstufff]

I've had no problem seeing promise in Port's premiership season performances when we've done well in our pre-season performances. Few supporters of any club would. What happened to Carlton in 2005 was just odd.
Here's a pact: the footy's back in 10 days, let's go nuts!Now that's the stuff. I'm in! :thumbsu:

[Lidge]

I just want to see some footy!

I don't like the NAB cup, but when your team have a win, how can you not get pumped?

Translated version...

I don't like the NAB cup, but my team is crap, this is our best chance for a win, therefore I am pumped.

[Hard Ball Get]

It is great to see the side win but ultimatly it means nothing.
It is more valuable for the younger sides. And the younger players in sides. It gives them a decent hit out.

[Johnson#26]

this is our best chance for a win

Pending on the strength of the Saints team. ;)

[Gunnar Longshanks]

West Coast lost both 2005 Grand Finals.And Hawthorn were barely competitive in either competition.

Are you looking forward to another medicore season?

[cschreuder61]

And Hawthorn were barely competitive in either competition.

Are you looking forward to another medicore season?
Bit touchy Gunnars?

In response to your thread titles, outlining that West Coast made both grand finals was giving an example that the NAB does mean something.

I think teams that make the NAB final genuinely have a good chance during the year. Means they are confident, in form, game plan has worked to some degree but under different rules.

Carlton were an exception, but using their example doesn't exclude all the other examples which show that teams that manage to go far in the wizard cup end up having good premiership seasons.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Where will the new Blues finish? (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158094)

Interesting thread. Maybe you could break down the almost 50% of posters that voted Carlton for the 8.

So you think a tip to make the 8 is an extreme for a club that won 10 games, finished two games out of the 8 and carried some good late season form into the preseason competition? Exactly what was unreasonable about those predictions? You have to remember we weren't basing the season on the Wizard Cup but also on the 2004 result.

Your attempts to undermine me when I am not addressing you and when the thread has nothing to do with you, probably highlight how smallminded and petty you are.

You are so predictable too. I can't see your posts but when I see you post shortly after me, I just know you are trying to indulge your ego yet again. Going on the attack during a mutual debate is one thing, seeking it out when it is none of your business highlights an agenda. Major doubts over your maturity level.

[hawkeye23]

I just want to see some footy!

Agree. I've seen enough cricket. Bring on the boys.

[lazy]

I realise it's hard to form a consensus on these boards, but I'd like to float the following proposition:

In 2006, let's not pretend that winning the NAB Cup counts for anything.

Let's not pretend that good form in the pre-season will translate to a great year when the real stuff starts.

Look what happened in 2005. Carlton won the pre-season competition and suddenly, "the sky was the limit" for the young Blues. We all know how that sorry saga ended.

So in 2006, let's not blow our loads quite so early. Keep it in your pants until Round 1.

Agree.. Now could you and UNIT provide 15 reasons why WC will win the GF again without shooting your load?

[MarkT]

I promise that when Collingwood win the NAB Cup in 2006 I’ll still think it is a practice match competition no matter what Eddie and Mick say about it. I will however be quietly happy that a few players will have found some fitness and form and a few young players will have shown a bit in the unaccountable for of the game that is played in the pre season. Young unaccountable running talent is what we need so bring it on.

[JeffDunne]

So you think a tip to make the 8 is an extreme for a club that won 10 games, finished two games out of the 8 and carried some good late season form into the preseason competition? Exactly what was unreasonable about those predictions? You have to remember we weren't basing the season on the Wizard Cup but also on the 2004 result.
Now what was this thread about again . . . oh, that's right, expectations based on preseason form. Only the most optimistic of supporters were tipping a top 8 finish prior to the preseason cup. After, almost to a man they were predicting a top 8 finish.

Wasn't that Gunnar's claim?

You might think it's "inaccurate, almost bordering on mythical" but if you go back through the threads from before and after it was anything but a myth. I take it all those supporters unwilling to take up a bet prior to the preseason cup that came by the truckloads after were a figment of my imagination? No wonder none of them paid up.



Your attempts to undermine me when I am not addressing you and when the thread has nothing to do with you, probably highlight how smallminded and petty you are.

LMFAO - since when have the rules on this board changed? Do we now need an invitation to reply? LOL - you've lost it big time.

I don't get this "undermine" crap either. HTF am I underminding you? You posted something I thought was tripe and I posted a link to prove it. Is shooting down your arguments with facts undermining you?

Also, how is a thread titled "I'd like to propose a pact for BigFooty posters from all clubs...." nothing to do with me?

You are so predictable too. I can't see your posts but when I see you post shortly after me, I just know you are trying to indulge your ego yet again.
Can't help yourself though can you?

Going on the attack during a mutual debate is one thing, seeking it out when it is none of your business highlights an agenda.

Again, can you direct me to the changes in the posting rules that say I need an invitation to reply? Also, I'd love to get an explanation on how this thread is none of my business (my club did win a preseason comp relatively recently too).

Major doubts over your maturity level.
From the person who doesn't indulge in personal attacks?

[Powerstufff]

........will have shown a bit in the unaccountable for of the game that is played......Que?
.....Young unaccountable running talent is what we need.....Are you sure? Do we understand different things by 'unaccountable'?

[MarkT]

Que?There’s an m missing. Make it unaccountable form of the game.Are you sure? Do we understand different things by 'unaccountable'?Maybe. I mean the opposite of the MM clone and/or someone whose attacking flair makes it criminal to have him waste energy on worrying about his opponent too much. I’m not saying accountability isn’t important but it isn’t everything either. Give me a new Buckley please. Call him a receiver or whatever you like but I'll enjoy watching him rack up 30+ week in week out and use them all to advantage.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Now what was this thread about again . . . oh, that's right, expectations based on preseason form. Only the most optimistic of supporters were tipping a top 8 finish prior to the preseason cup. After, almost to a man they were predicting a top 8 finish.Some were predicting the possibility of a top 8 spot prior to the Wizard Cup. In fact I was thinking anywhere between 8th and 16th. Even after the Wizard Cup I talked about certain players standing up. Fevola was injured for half the year which made my prediction quite valid. Still you quoted my post from back there to implicate me in any big calls.

You might think it's "inaccurate, almost bordering on mythical" but if you go back through the threads from before and after it was anything but a myth. I take it all those supporters unwilling to take up a bet prior to the preseason cup that came by the truckloads after were a figment of my imagination? No wonder none of them paid up.You want me to comment on bets people made when I don't know the details? Apparently some jumped on because of the huge odds, just as one would a rank outsider in a horse race. They jump on just in case not because they are over confident IMO. By the way, a tip to scrape into the 8 for a team finishing 10the previous year is by no means getting carried away. It's a big picture thing and make no mistake, if we finished last in 2004 and won the Wizard cup in 2005, the expectations would have been lower. No way was the Wizard Cup a catalyst for most of the expectations.

LMFAO - since when have the rules on this board changed? Do we now need an invitation to reply? LOL - you've lost it big time.Forget the board rules. I'm calling you out as a poster, not a moderator. You are a first rate troll looking for trouble at every turn IMO.

I don't get this "undermine" crap either. HTF am I underminding you? You posted something I thought was tripe and I posted a link to prove it. Is shooting down your arguments with facts undermining you? Like shooting fish in a barrel.

I talked cautiously about a possible finals berth pending certain things happening, and you claim that is proof of Carlton fans getting carried away about the Wizard Cup? I think you will find I was also cautiously optimistic after 2004. You proved zero with that post.

The undermining part is in reference to your use of my moderator status to hold me to a much higher standard of posting than you do yourself. Did you not refer to an interesting part of my post where it was edited out by a moderator on this board? What exactly were you trying to highlight there?

I posted an image IIRC, tongue in cheek but not exactly high brow. I then reported the post myself to the moderators on this board, telling them I was unsure about it and suggesting they remove it if they agreed. Fred then added a tongue in cheek message to his edit because of my report. You weren't to know that but it obviously wasn't as bad as you thought when you went fishing and saw it.

Also, how is a thread titled "I'd like to propose a pact for BigFooty posters from all clubs...." nothing to do with me?Didn't say you didn't need to come into the thread, but you certainly didn't need to go searching to try and refute my response. My response wasn't to you and it had nothing to do with St Kilda. You did so because it gave you a chance to have another shot at Carlton supporters. I doubt you would admit though, simply not your style.

Can't help yourself though can you?I'd say I have clicked on about 10% of your posts over the past few days. I just have a good strike rate for guessing when you are honing your act.

Again, can you direct me to the changes in the posting rules that say I need an invitation to reply? Also, I'd love to get an explanation on how this thread is none of my business (my club did win a preseason comp relatively recently too).Comprehension skills not your strong point?

From the person who doesn't indulge in personal attacks?
Not usually and not to anyone who doesn't deserve it. What, do you think you start with a clean slate every day? Not in my book.

[bmwofoz]

I just want to see some footy!

I don't like the NAB cup, but when your team have a win, how can you not get pumped?


Yep :thumbsu:

[Tas]

Agree. I've seen enough cricket. Bring on the boys.

I thought you would prefer men to boys? :p

[Tas]

What I am looking for in the pre-season is not the result itself but signs of improvement over last year. Things like certain players who did not play up to the standard expected last year, the younger guys that had not quite pushed on as expected, stuff like that.

Winning is a bonus but you want to see your side play without any injuries, see some structure and good skill level going into round 1. If you are slopply and lethargic during the pre-season it is hard to turn it on like a switch come round one.

A lot of sides that limp through the pre-season have had less than fantastic starts to the season and unless you are an exceptional side it makes it hard to make the finals when you have blown the start of the season.

[ALwaysNorth]

I realise it's hard to form a consensus on these boards, but I'd like to float the following proposition:

In 2006, let's not pretend that winning the NAB Cup counts for anything.

Let's not pretend that good form in the pre-season will translate to a great year when the real stuff starts.

Look what happened in 2005. Carlton won the pre-season competition and suddenly, "the sky was the limit" for the young Blues. We all know how that sorry saga ended.

So in 2006, let's not blow our loads quite so early. Keep it in your pants until Round 1.

Geez I've been waiting four months for the footy , threads at the moment are as boring as sh#t and Gunnar wants to ban lively debate about the NAB cup .

I'd prefer to ban Weagles supporters posting this year about the four flags they are going to win a row , sorry its only 3 because they didn't win last year did they.

[go team]

Shouldn't you already know the answers to these questions?

The worst result by a Wizard Cup finalist (besides Carlton) in the last 3 years is a SF loss to the eventual premiers. The rest either made the PF or the GF.

Good form is good form it seems.

[mcgarnacle]

i don't even watch the pre-season comp - glorified practice matches!

[steve-o]

I'd prefer to ban Weagles supporters posting this year about the four flags they are going to win a row , sorry its only 3 because they didn't win last year did they.
The Weagles got three second-places last year though.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

I'm just counting down to the first "[insert team] will go top 4" thread following a win in the NAB Cup.

I'm determined to keep a lid on things this season. Whether WC win or lose in the early stages, I'm going to try not to get too excited before 5-6 weeks into the real stuff.

That was one of my New Year's resolutions. Not sure how much success I'll have.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

I realise it's hard to form a consensus on these boards, but I'd like to float the following proposition:

In 2006, let's not pretend that winning the NAB Cup counts for anything.

Let's not pretend that good form in the pre-season will translate to a great year when the real stuff starts.

Look what happened in 2005. Carlton won the pre-season competition and suddenly, "the sky was the limit" for the young Blues. We all know how that sorry saga ended.

So in 2006, let's not blow our loads quite so early. Keep it in your pants until Round 1.I tried to tell you, but Geelong supporters didn't listen.

[nicky]

I tried to tell you, but Geelong supporters didn't listen.

hilarious :D I don't think I've seen any posters carry on like certain wce posters did last year. For many of you the flag was in the bag after round 10.

So what if a few geelong posters got ahead of themselves - MOST of them didn't. Kicking these posters while they're down is poor form.... very poor form.

[Arcadion]

hilarious :D I don't think I've seen any posters carry on like certain wce posters did last year. For many of you the flag was in the bag after round 10.
For who exactly? :confused:

[nicky]

For who exactly? :confused:

I'm not going to dredge up threads from a year ago because i don't need to. Everyone posting on BF last year is aware of these threads.

I think you're missing my point being that whilst there may have been some geelong fans getting ahead of themselves most of them remained humbled.

If you and GL wish to be respected seperately from some of the tools following WC then GL should respect the decent cat fans.

capisce?

[Katthawk]

Are you drunk?

No but usually more obnoxious and absolutely more opinionated than you. It doesn't mean much. :p

[Gunnar Longshanks]

I'm not going to dredge up threads from a year ago because i don't need to. Everyone posting on BF last year is aware of these threads.
How convenient.

[Katthawk]

Ashley from BB is the biggest prick and the worst normal person.

He's just a non person. Has no personality.

[nicky]

How convenient.

So you're saying there were no obnoxious absurd WC posters in 2005?

I would have thought your standards were higher than that? If they were normal then i shudder to contemplate your standard off obnoxiousness;)

[Gunnar Longshanks]

So you're saying there were no obnoxious absurd WC posters in 2005?I'm sure many were obnoxious. That's not what I'm taking issue with.

I'd just like to see the evidence of these hordes of Eagles fans claiming the "flag was in the bag".

You refer to it so imperiously as though there's a mountain of evidence for anyone who cares to look.

You're referring to WC complacency as though it was a fairly widespread phenomenon.

I'd just like to see more than 1-2 isolated incidents to back up your weak-as-water arguments.

[Katthawk]

So you're saying there were no obnoxious absurd WC posters in 2005?

I would have thought your standards were higher than that? If they were normal then i shudder to contemplate your standard off obnoxiousness;)

you don't mean anything you say Nicky. You mean nothing you say. It's just playtime for you at this time.

[nicky]

you don't mean anything you say Nicky. You mean nothing you say. It's just playtime for you at this time.

you don't mean anything you TYPE is what you're trying to say.


Don't try and understand me Kattahawk your brain isn't equipped.:p

[nicky]

I'm sure many were obnoxious. That's not what I'm taking issue with.

I'd just like to see the evidence of these hordes of Eagles fans claiming the "flag was in the bag".

You refer to it so imperiously as though there's a mountain of evidence for anyone who cares to look.

You're referring to WC complacency as though it was a fairly widespread phenomenon.

I'd just like to see more than 1-2 isolated incidents to back up your weak-as-water arguments.

My argument is simple really; If you wish to be respected seperately from some of the tools following WC then you should respect the decent cat fans.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

My argument is simple really; If you wish to be respected seperately from some of the tools following WC then you should respect the decent cat fans.I don't care what advice you want to give me.

I just want to know if you can back up your arguments.

Or are you all hot air?

[Milkman]

I'm not going to dredge up threads from a year ago because i don't need to. Everyone posting on BF last year is aware of these threads.

And yet nobody can find them. It's very bizarre, it's almost as if they never existed.

[Katthawk]

you don't mean anything you TYPE is what you're trying to say.


Don't try and understand me Kattahawk your brain isn't equipped.:p

No. it isn't. :D

[Katthawk]

you don't mean anything you TYPE is what you're trying to say.


Don't try and understand me Kattahawk your brain isn't equipped.:p

Why does everyone call me Katt a Hawk. ?

It means absolutely nothing either way so don't bother with the TYPO. :D

[nicky]

No. it isn't. :D

don't lie while you type; it is so EQUIPPED. I was testing you and now i know it IS :p :p

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Why does everyone call me Katt a Hawk. ?
I'd be more inclined to call you Catamite.

Look it up.

[nicky]

Why does everyone call me Katt a Hawk. ?

It means absolutely nothing either way so don't bother with the TYPO. :D

Oh i just realised that it's katthawk. See katthawk has no ring to it and you seem like the type of girl that demands THREE sylabols to her name, ottay kattAhawk ;)

that is all.:thumbsu:

[Katthawk]

you don't mean anything you TYPE is what you're trying to say.


I'm hanging on, I'm grabbing at straws. I mean everything I type.

You can be pompous all you like, We were once.

[Katthawk]

I'd be more inclined to call you Catamite.

Look it up.

catatonic

[nicky]

I'm hanging on, I'm grabbing at straws. I mean everything I type.

You can be pompous all you like, We were once.

but you said your brain isn't equipped - i think you're telling porky pies

[Gunnar Longshanks]

catatonicYes.

That word also begins with the letter 'c'.

Well done.

[Katthawk]

Oh i just realised that it's katthawk. See katthawk has no ring to it and you seem like the type of girl that demands THREE sylabols to her name, ottay kattAhawk ;)

that is all.:thumbsu:

we might lose kiddo. and you'll have another scalp.... we suck big time. :mad:

[Katthawk]

Yes.

That word also begins with the letter 'c'.

Well done.

corr it's a catastrophic ... Oh no where is Hodge? :D

[nicky]

Yes.

That word also begins with the letter 'c'.

Well done.

so it's okay for you to think of another word beginning with "c" yet when someone else thinks of what is more than likely a more appropriate word you're a condescending knacker to them..... hmmmm?

[nicky]

we might lose kiddo.

yeah the swans are in good form atm so we'll be hard to beat.



and you'll have another scalp....

is that like a metaphor for something? :confused:



we suck big time. :mad:

hey its not all bad, promising times ahead for the young hawks ;) :D

[Katthawk]

but you said your brain isn't equipped - i think you're telling porky pies

I'm a pork chop, you're as gorgeous as you like. .

[Gunnar Longshanks]

so it's okay for you to think of another word beginning with "c" yet when someone else thinks of what is more than likely a more appropriate word you're a condescending knacker to them..... hmmmm?Another word beginning with 'c'?

What was the first 'c' word?

I know that 'k' and 'c' sound the same, nicky. But they're actually different letters.

It can be tricky to begin with, but most kids figure it about by the time they're in 4th grade.

You'll get there. Just don't give up.

[Katthawk]

Another word beginning with 'c'?

What was the first 'c' word?

I know that 'k' and 'c' sound the same, nicky. But they're actually different letters.

It can be tricky to begin with, but most kids figure it about by the time they're in 4th grade.

You'll get there. Just don't give up.

You're asking for a Kneebone. ... you don't deserve anything like a K and a C so keep fishing...

[nicky]

Another word beginning with 'c'?

What was the first 'c' word?

I know that 'k' and 'c' sound the same, nicky. But they're actually different letters.

It can be tricky to begin with, but most kids figure it about by the time they're in 4th grade.

You'll get there. Just don't give up.

hahahahaha lol

luckily you're pedantic or else you'd have NOTHING:D

[Katthawk]

hahahahaha lol

luckily you're pedantic or else you'd have NOTHING:D

Nicky I HATE you .... :D

[nicky]

Nicky I HATE you .... :D

kattahawk that acutally hurts coming from you.

Anyhoo take a number and get in line :p

[Jabso]

Have said it before and will say it again, this view of what happened after the Wizard Cup last year is inaccurate, almost bordering on mythical.

Maybe a couple of fans had parrot-esque expectations but most Blues fans were cautious about the future while also enjoying the win given our lack of positives for the previous couple of years. The most prominent threads started directly after the Wiz Cup GF were started by opposition fans with many of them predicting big things for us.

It was hardly a frenzy worthy of starting a thread about 11 months later.
That is true but there were a good few Carlton supporters predicting finals finishes or at least close to finals.

Also a good point is 8 of the last 10 preseason cup winners have made finals.

[ThePope]

I'm sure many were obnoxious. That's not what I'm taking issue with.

I'd just like to see the evidence of these hordes of Eagles fans claiming the "flag was in the bag".

So you've burnt your "Eagles Premiers 2005" t-shirt, bought about this time last year have you?

Oh, sorry, that was for chairty so it's OK.

[Entertainment Machine]

So you've burnt your "Eagles Premiers 2005" t-shirt, bought about this time last year have you?

Oh, sorry, that was for chairty so it's OK.

This was the t-shirt made by a little girl suffering from cancer right? Does it compare to the "Dockers 2004 Premiers" poster on Dockerland?

Oh, Sorry, that whole website is tongue in cheek so it's OK :rolleyes:

[JBean]

So you've burnt your "Eagles Premiers 2005" t-shirt, bought about this time last year have you?

Oh, sorry, that was for chairty so it's OK.

Hahahahaha, least they came close to it, made the finals even! Supporting a charity is something most Freo supporters are used to... pitty it's not for anything other than their own club.

[Katthawk]

kattahawk that acutally hurts coming from you.

Anyhoo take a number and get in line :p

I don't care but you hated me and yet you love me. No that sucks.

You can't spell but you know I love ya ... and this gets me knowhere.

[Milkman]

So you've burnt your "Eagles Premiers 2005" t-shirt, bought about this time last year have you?

Oh, sorry, that was for chairty so it's OK.


Not only was it for charity, but it was designed by a 6 year old cancer patient.

Oh the arrogance.

Funny thing is, that 6 year old's prediction on where we'd finish was much closer to the mark than most on BF.

[hawkeye23]

Not content with being the supposed centre of attention on TLC and every other board (it seems) on NFR, nicky drags her vendetta to the main board and derails a perfectly decent thread with her attention seeking :rolleyes: Wonder how long it'll be before there's a clique forming here as well? ;)

[Gunnar Longshanks]

hahahahaha lol

luckily you're pedantic or else you'd have NOTHING:DI know you're just working on "sounding words out", but sometimes the little things can take a while to get the hang of.

No big deal.

You'll get there eventually.

[SorryIHammerChicken]

I don't care but you hated me and yet you love me. No that sucks.

You can't spell but you know I love ya ... and this gets me knowhere.
What the hell are you on about? :confused:

Back on topic, Geelong are stuffed.

[Jimthegreat]

5 of the last 6 finalists have gone on to have very good seasons. Seems like a pretty accurate form guide to me.While not many go on to do the double, the record of the winners and runners-up has been excellent. The runners-up last year and this year did/are doing great.

I was cautiously optomistic last year given we had won 10 games the year (2004) before (could've been 12, and finals, but for the flukely out on the full that resulted in the winning goal to being kicked by Daniel Wells in round 3, and blowing an 18pt lead in the last 15 minutes against the Swans), and then won the Wizzer in extremely impressive fashion against quality opposition. Given all that, one liked their chances. The next obvious step you look at is finals from there, even if it's 8th. Sadly we got a wooden spoon to stir our dinner in the Wizzer Wok. Seems light years ago now. Didn't know they were going to turn themsleves into an uncommitted rabble in such a short time. In 75 games since the start of 2003 we have lost by 10 goals or more now 20 times.

[GoSydneySwans]

I know you're just working on "sounding words out", but sometimes the little things can take a while to get the hang of.

No big deal.

You'll get there eventually.

While I would love to marvel at the genius move you're making of accusing nicky of being dumb just because you've run out of arguments, I was instead marvelling at another brilliant thread of yours a while back.

http://bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=178951

On the 25th of June, you stated St. Kilda won't make the finals because the top 4 is set. West Coast, Melbourne, Adelaide and Geelong were in it, and Adelaide and Geelong could be swapped around but that was the only problem.

The top 4 was far from set as it turned out. Instead of simply saying "It probably won't happen" you went out on a limb and said "It won't happen" You seemed pretty confident of this 'set list'

You had West Coast DEFINITELY at the top of the ladder. They finished 2nd.
You had Melbourne DEFINITELY second on the ladder. They finished 7th and were lucky to do so.
You had Adelaide POSSIBLY third and POSSIBLY fourth. They finished 1st, and looked to be the best team in the competition (thank god they didn't make the grand final, just quietly)
You had Geelong POSSIBLY third and POSSIBLY fourth. They finished 6th
St. Kilda weren't going to finish in the top 4. That was a dead certainty - until the end of round 22, when they popped up at number 4.
The only team that were going to break into the top 4 was possibly Port Adelaide, but you decided that they'd struggle to crack into the 4. You were on the money there, but Sydney obviously never entered your calculations.

If you were just having a bit of fun posting what you thought the ladder was going to be, then that's great, nothing wrong with that, but instead you've come out and said "The top 4 is set. St. Kilda won't make it."

People can make mistakes. Get over this Geelong-bagging or I'll look for another thread were you've screwed up.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

While I would love to marvel at the genius move you're making of accusing nicky of being dumb just because you've run out of arguments, I was instead marvelling at another brilliant thread of yours a while back.

http://bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=178951

On the 25th of June, you stated St. Kilda won't make the finals because the top 4 is set. West Coast, Melbourne, Adelaide and Geelong were in it, and Adelaide and Geelong could be swapped around but that was the only problem.

The top 4 was far from set as it turned out. Instead of simply saying "It probably won't happen" you went out on a limb and said "It won't happen" You seemed pretty confident of this 'set list'

You had West Coast DEFINITELY at the top of the ladder. They finished 2nd.
You had Melbourne DEFINITELY second on the ladder. They finished 7th and were lucky to do so.
You had Adelaide POSSIBLY third and POSSIBLY fourth. They finished 1st, and looked to be the best team in the competition (thank god they didn't make the grand final, just quietly)
You had Geelong POSSIBLY third and POSSIBLY fourth. They finished 6th
St. Kilda weren't going to finish in the top 4. That was a dead certainty - until the end of round 22, when they popped up at number 4.
The only team that were going to break into the top 4 was possibly Port Adelaide, but you decided that they'd struggle to crack into the 4. You were on the money there, but Sydney obviously never entered your calculations.

If you were just having a bit of fun posting what you thought the ladder was going to be, then that's great, nothing wrong with that, but instead you've come out and said "The top 4 is set. St. Kilda won't make it."

People can make mistakes. Get over this Geelong-bagging or I'll look for another thread were you've screwed up.Some weeks, I only tip 6 out of 8.

You should get into me about that while you're at it.

Those kind of predictions are never going to be spot-on.

That goes without saying.

Look for as many threads as you like.

Dullard.

[GoSydneySwans]

Some weeks, I only tip 6 out of 8.

You should get into me about that while you're at it.

Those kind of predictions are never going to be spot-on.

That goes without saying.

Look for as many threads as you like.

Dullard.
Haha only 6. I get 8 every week. Nobody is forcing you to come out and state exactly where St. Kilda will finish on the ladder in the first place. And now you're saying those predictions are never going to be spot on, whereas earlier you were criticising Geelong for their predictions not being spot on.

Here's another one I spotted. Unfortunately it can't be bumped because it's been locked, but you and other Eagles supporters were also quite good in this.

http://bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=176153
"Has everyone accepted WC's superiority?"

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Haha only 6. I get 8 every week. Nobody is forcing you to come out and state exactly where St. Kilda will finish on the ladder in the first place. And now you're saying those predictions are never going to be spot on, whereas earlier you were criticising Geelong for their predictions not being spot on.I wasn't criticising Geelong people. I was laughing at them. There's a difference.

You're a bit of try-hard, mate. Do you think pointing out incorrect predictions from 2005 is going to prove anything?

I made far-ranging predictions about the ladder with more than two months to go. Of course I was going to get things wrong.

What's your point anyway? My predictions were wrong, and I accept that. So what are you saying?: "You were wrong. See. You were wrong".

Yes. I know. It doesn't bother me.

http://bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=176153
"Has everyone accepted WC's superiority?" That's a fair thread. We were the best team in the comp at that stage.

[GoSydneySwans]

I wasn't criticising Geelong people. I was laughing at them. There's a difference.

You're a bit of try-hard, mate. Do you think pointing out incorrect predictions from 2005 is going to prove anything?

The mistakes you're pointing about Geelong supporters at the moment are the exact same sort of mistakes as what you had made last year. That's all I'm pointing out.

Do you think pointing out incorrect predictions from the start of this season is going to prove anything?

I made far-ranging predictions about the ladder with more than two months to go. Of course I was going to get things wrong.

What's your point anyway? My predictions were wrong, and I accept that. So what are you saying?: "You were wrong. See. You were wrong".

Yes. I know. It doesn't bother me.

That's a fair thread. We were the best team in the comp at that stage.

Geelong were also the in-form team of the competition when the threads at the moment are being written.

I'm not having a go at you just because you stuffed some things up last year, I'm more having a go at you because now you're bumping up threads that were wrong in similar respects as to what yours were last year.

[nicky]

Not content with being the supposed centre of attention on TLC and every other board (it seems) on NFR, nicky drags her vendetta to the main board and derails a perfectly decent thread with her attention seeking :rolleyes: Wonder how long it'll be before there's a clique forming here as well? ;)

try this

http://www.planetherbs.com/articles/soup.html

[nicky]

I know you're just working on "sounding words out", but sometimes the little things can take a while to get the hang of.

No big deal.

You'll get there eventually.

thanks GL maybe under your careful observation and coaching i WILL get there :D

[Gunnar Longshanks]

The mistakes you're pointing about Geelong supporters at the moment are the exact same sort of mistakes as what you had made last year. That's all I'm pointing out.They're not the same at all.

Geelong supporters thought they'd be wonderful this season. That's a singular prediction that hasn't panned out.

My predictions encompassed so many variables (the results of how many different games?) that the margin for error was exponentially greater.

Not even in the same ball-park.

Besides, it's not about the Geelong supporters being wrong. It's more about their optimism imploding in spectacular fashion. That's what I'm interested in.

If some supporter said "I think we'll finish top 4", and they ended up in 5th, I wouldn't care. It's the nature and spectacle of their wrongness that is funny.

I'm not having a go at you just because you stuffed some things up last year, I'm more having a go at you because now you're bumping up threads that were wrong in similar respects as to what yours were last year.I've already outlined that it's not just about people being wrong.

It's about them having their high hopes shattered.

Getting the details wrong is neither here nor there. Who cares?

But seeing Geelong supporters turn on their own in a season that promised so much. That's funny.

It's not just the fact of their wrongness, but the nature of the situation that now confronts them and the sense that they've somehow been betrayed. You can smell the dejection. It's wonderful.

You probably wouldn't understand. You're too simple.

[nicky]

I don't care but you hated me and yet you love me. No that sucks.

You can't spell but you know I love ya ... and this gets me knowhere.

i love you too kattAhawk ;)

[Gunnar Longshanks]

thanks GL maybe under your careful observation and coaching i WILL get there :DThe important thing is not to rush it.

Even if it takes you another 10 years to read and write at the level of a normal 9 year-old, you just go along at your own pace.

There's no pressure.

[hawkeye23]

try this

http://www.planetherbs.com/articles/soup.html

Bwahahahahaha!!!!

Your insecurity knows no bounds!

[nicky]

Bwahahahahaha!!!!

Your insecurity knows no bounds!

much like your wasteline

[Magnum27]

try this

http://www.planetherbs.com/articles/soup.html

much like your wasteline

Good to see you're resorting to schoolyard jibes nicky.

You are showing your true class as a person, when it gets tough you attack a person's physical appearance, not only here but in the tlc and a pm as well.

What a lovely young girl you are :thumbsd:

[nicky]

i didn't call her fat in a pm.

Please leave me alone - the both of you.

[Magnum27]

i didn't call her fat in a pm.

Please leave me alone - the both of you.


Look at the above quotes, people are not as dumb as you think nicky and when you have a shot at a loved one of mine i will say something. I was not going to get involved but you had a personal shot so you involved me.

Why did you entitle the pm you sent to hawk as slim ?

If you want to get personal nicky thats your choice , but it shows your true character.

[nicky]

Look at the above quotes, people are not as dumb as you think nicky and when you have a shot at a loved one of mine i will say something. I was not going to get involved but you had a personal shot so you involved me.

Why did you entitle the pm you sent to hawk as slim ?

If you want to get personal nicky thats your choice , but it shows your true character.

fine i was being a little ironical by calling her slim, so bloody what. I've seen people from BF call her alot worse... Now seriously :D :D :D :D off, i don't care what you think of my character...

just, yeah please just.... just go.