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wez10000
14 Feb 2006, 18:29
Thought i might bring this here for anyone interested in the progress of Patrick Bowden

Tigers set to unveil their secret weapon
Tuesday 14 February 2006
Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au



Richmond captain Kane Johnson believes Patrick Bowden could be the ‘X-factor’ that helps the Tigers take the next step in 2006.

“Patrick’s been sensational so far,” Johnson said.

“He hasn’t said much, which is good from a bloke that’s just comes into the Club, but he’s starting to get his voice going now.

“He’s impressed everyone with everything he’s done on the track and I reckon, used properly, he could be something of a surprise weapon for us this year.

“I think he could be a really good tall half-forward type of player that roams up the ground, opens up our forward line, and is capable of kicking about 30 goals for the season.”

Johnson regards the younger brother of Richmond’s back-to-back Jack Dyer Medallist Joel, as a good foil for veteran superstar forward Matthew Richardson.

“He’s very fit and he’s already proven he can kick goals and play well at the level, so I can see him taking some pressure off ‘Richo’,” Johnson said.

“With blokes like him, who have come across from another league club, you’ve got to get the most out of them in their first year with you, because they’ve really got something to prove at their new club.

“I’m certainly looking forward to Patrick having a very good year first-up with us . . .”

Bowden, 24, 191cm and 89kg, was traded by the Western Bulldogs to Richmond in exchange for a fourth-round draft pick at the end of last season.

He has played 50 games and kicked 55 goals since making his senior league debut in 2001.


http://afl.com.au/?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=245465

Dry Rot
14 Feb 2006, 18:33
Um, thanks for that. Strange that he didn't seem so enthusiastic last year.

Who did we get for that pick?

Pugsta
14 Feb 2006, 18:35
Always had high hopes for Patrick at the Doggies but it was not to be. Very disappointing effort during the VFL grand final last year.

The Dice Man
14 Feb 2006, 18:37
Um, thanks for that. Strange that he didn't seem so enthusiastic last year.

Who did we get for that pick?


I think you gave us like pick 54, and we gave you pick 60 for Pat.. IIRC you're also paying part of his wage.. but I could be wrong there.

The Dice Man
14 Feb 2006, 18:40
Always had high hopes for Patrick at the Doggies but it was not to be. Very disappointing effort during the VFL grand final last year.


I heard a rumour that around the halfway point of last season, Pat met up with Joel, Greg Miller and TW as he wasnt satisfied with the new regime at the Bulldogs and they talked about a move to Tigerland.

Apparently Greg Miller suggested that Pat play well within himself for the rest of teh season, with teh guarantee that Richmond would do everything in their power to get him to Tigerland for 06.

GM wanted Pat to play without heart so he could get the best possible deal from the Bulldogs. Very cunning man is GM:thumbsu:

Pugsta
14 Feb 2006, 18:44
Well - it looks like they both got what they wanted then. Strange though that a professional sports person would deliberately play poorly.

Fossie 32
14 Feb 2006, 18:45
I heard a rumour that around the halfway point of last season, Pat met up with Joel, Greg Miller and TW as he wasnt satisfied with the new regime at the Bulldogs and they talked about a move to Tigerland.

Apparently Greg Miller suggested that Pat play well within himself for the rest of teh season, with teh guarantee that Richmond would do everything in their power to get him to Tigerland for 06.

GM wanted Pat to play without heart so he could get the best possible deal from the Bulldogs. Very cunning man is GM:thumbsu:

What a devious plot - to play the same as he always plays so we would give him the flick. Damn, we should've seen through it.

:(

The Dice Man
14 Feb 2006, 18:55
Well - it looks like they both got what they wanted then. Strange though that a professional sports person would deliberately play poorly.


I know. Who'd have thought a proffesional sportsman would do anything devious to further his personal interests and get himself to a far better and more stable place:rolleyes: .

H Dolphin
14 Feb 2006, 18:57
I know. Who'd have thought a proffesional sportsman would do anything devious to further his personal interests and get himself to a far better and more stable place:rolleyes: .
I think nobody would ever run dead until I see the outmarkers at Stawell. How reliable is the source of your rumour, Diceman ?

mjp
14 Feb 2006, 19:01
Well, I hope he does well enough to get a game in round 1. Certainly one Richmond player who I will not be disappointed to see run out.

All the best to Patrick and everything, but intensity at the contest is not a switch that can be flicked on and off...and after a few years with it in the 'off' position I doubt he will find it now.

The Dice Man
14 Feb 2006, 19:01
I think nobody would ever run dead until I see the outmarkers at Stawell. How reliable is the source of your rumour, Diceman ?


About as reliable as me making it up about 10 minutes ago;)

But you have to admit, it's easy to imagine.

Captain Sensible
14 Feb 2006, 19:19
GM wanted Pat to play without heart so he could get the best possible deal from the Bulldogs. Very cunning man is GM:thumbsu:




No one has to tell Paddy to play without heart SF. He just does. Softest bastard I've ever seen on a footy field, if he werent he'd be a sensation.

The Dice Man
14 Feb 2006, 19:20
No one has to tell Paddy to play without heart SF. He just does. Softest bastard I've ever seen on a footy field, if he werent he'd be a sensation.


He'll be a sensation this season, just you watch.

blah..blah
14 Feb 2006, 20:06
He'll be a sensation this season, just you watch.
and don't forget deledio to win the brownlow, richo to kick 100 goals, wallace to win best coach of the year and richmond to win the premiership. geeze you guys struggle.

The only good thing for richmond is if p.bowden makes the team (which would be a real worry for richmond cos hes a pee heart) is you have one less name to remember when your bagging out your players.

ErnieSigley
14 Feb 2006, 20:25
Who gives a stuff about Patrick Bowden, Jade Rawlings or Nathan Brown?
This is the Bulldog board of the present or future not the Bulldog board of gutless past players.

Captain Sensible
14 Feb 2006, 20:26
He'll be a sensation this season, just you watch.



I'm betting that he'll kick 3 or 4 in each of his first three games and be back at Coburg by mid year.

fred cook
14 Feb 2006, 20:33
I get himself to a far better and more stable place:rolleyes: .

Yeah a more stable place

Coach spitting
Coach sackings
Board spills
Players driving drunk (great for your sponsor)

Please:thumbsd:

The Dice Man
14 Feb 2006, 20:38
Yeah a more stable place

Coach spitting
Coach sackings
Board spills
Players driving drunk (great for your sponsor)

Please:thumbsd:


You'd have spat on Frawley if he was your coach, besides, the guy admitted in court he was a Brisbane supporter, but dont you go letting any facts get in teh way of your pea-brained response.

Coach sackings?? I think you'll find the Dogs sacked a coach more recentley than Richmond. Strike 2.

Board spills? When did this happen, oh sorry, you're speaking out your ass again.

Players driving drunk?? He was actually around .05 but he was a P-Plater so technically he's over the limit. Hardly drunk. But in the end it was a blessing as it enabled us to get a major sponsor worth 200 grand a year more.

Strike 3. Have a nice day:)

Aquamarinejewel
14 Feb 2006, 20:52
Good luck to your team The Dice Man, Bowden has no relevance to the Bulldogs anymore, so therefore we don't care. I hope he does well for your team and everyone needs a second chance, but really it's a non issue around here. :)

Anja_Nees
14 Feb 2006, 20:52
You'd have spat on Frawley if he was your coach, besides, the guy admitted in court he was a Brisbane supporter, but dont you go letting any facts get in teh way of your pea-brained response.

Coach sackings?? I think you'll find the Dogs sacked a coach more recentley than Richmond. Strike 2.

Board spills? When did this happen, oh sorry, you're speaking out your ass again.

Players driving drunk?? He was actually around .05 but he was a P-Plater so technically he's over the limit. Hardly drunk. But in the end it was a blessing as it enabled us to get a major sponsor worth 200 grand a year more.

Strike 3. Have a nice day:)

http://homepages.wmich.edu/~d1rea/head%20in%20the%20sand.jpg

The_Bulldogs_Bite
14 Feb 2006, 21:05
You'd have spat on Frawley if he was your coach, besides, the guy admitted in court he was a Brisbane supporter, but dont you go letting any facts get in teh way of your pea-brained response.

Coach sackings?? I think you'll find the Dogs sacked a coach more recentley than Richmond. Strike 2.

Board spills? When did this happen, oh sorry, you're speaking out your ass again.

Players driving drunk?? He was actually around .05 but he was a P-Plater so technically he's over the limit. Hardly drunk. But in the end it was a blessing as it enabled us to get a major sponsor worth 200 grand a year more.

Strike 3. Have a nice day:)

If we had of asked you what Pat Bowden was like before he crossed over to Richmond, I'm more than sure you'd of responded in the same way we have the last 2 or so years. Good luck with him, cause god knows, you're going to need EVERY single bit of it.

The Dice Man
14 Feb 2006, 21:11
If we had of asked you what Pat Bowden was like before he crossed over to Richmond, I'm more than sure you'd of responded in the same way we have the last 2 or so years. Good luck with him, cause god knows, you're going to need EVERY single bit of it.


I wouldnt have had an opinion on him as Ive never sen him do anything flash, nor have I seen him do anything dudley either.

Alot like Joel up until a couple of years ago. Hopefully Pat can 'come of age' like his brother did.

Dogs Rule
14 Feb 2006, 22:28
I wouldnt have had an opinion on him as Ive never sen him do anything flash, nor have I seen him do anything dudley either.

Alot like Joel up until a couple of years ago. Hopefully Pat can 'come of age' like his brother did.

It's already been said above, but to be honest I don't care how Bowden, Brown, or Rawlings perform this season.

For whatever reasons they decided to jump ship, and they are now well and truly in the past.

davo dog
15 Feb 2006, 08:01
I wouldnt have had an opinion on him as Ive never sen him do anything flash, nor have I seen him do anything dudley either.

Alot like Joel up until a couple of years ago. Hopefully Pat can 'come of age' like his brother did.
I'm sure you and the other ferals will have an opinion by mid season and shower him in slag. It took 5 years of constant abuse by tiger supporters ( sorry thats an oxymoron) for bowden to "come of age". just go back to the tigger board with ya mates bentleigh and itsinmyarse and tell each other what ya wanna hear. i look forward to seeing brown at the RC hospital again when there is a camera crew down there.

The_Flying_Egg
15 Feb 2006, 08:45
You'd have spat on Frawley if he was your coach, besides, the guy admitted in court he was a Brisbane supporter, but dont you go letting any facts get in teh way of your pea-brained response.



Fairs fair we had Rohder as a coach and we didn't spit on him

And we're not a club that publically lambasts a coach saying what a disgrace he is and what not, and then cream our pants when we sign him up. Did Clinton Casey still think he was a coach that instructs players to play filthy when he signed Wallace up??

Gooka
15 Feb 2006, 09:10
“he’s already proven he can kick goals and play well at the level, so I can see him taking some pressure off ‘Richo’,” Johnson said.


http://afl.com.au/?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=245465

I'd be interested to find out which games of Bowden's Mr Kane Johnson has seen...

play well at this level?

Rocco Jones
15 Feb 2006, 15:33
Richmond is becoming quite the Wizard of Oz production.

Pat Bowden playing the tinman looking for a heart, Richo playing the scarewcrow looking for a brain, Joel Bowden playing the part of the cowardly lion looking for the nerve and our old boy Nathaniel Brown taking the lead as Dorothy who will soon be wishing he could click those heels and just come back home.

The Griffenator
15 Feb 2006, 16:09
Tigers desperate for options
By Jon Anderson
15feb06
RICHMOND fans get ready for the ride because goals are again on the menu this season.

i think that this title says it all.......if Pat Bowden (on what he showed on the field at the dogs) is a potential star, im not even sure desperate is the right word, i would go with clutching at straws....

That said i have no doubt on the track Pat would be flying, he always looked the goods with the dogs, but man could he go missing on the footy field, every team knows it and will put the heat on him straight away and once again he will hide. Its not something you can learn IMO, you either like the contact and thrive or dont like the contact and play for richmond

As for dice mans "better and more stable place" i dont think the dogs have recently made there players move rat droppings from the change rooms, or paint the hall ways? Our boys will have a $20 million training centre, the envy of the league, you been to Punt road oval lately Dice, looks like it might fall over in a stiff breeze.

davo dog
15 Feb 2006, 16:10
Richmond is becoming quite the Wizard of Oz production.

Pat Bowden playing the tinman looking for a heart, Richo playing the scarewcrow looking for a brain, Joel Bowden playing the part of the cowardly lion looking for the nerve and our old boy Nathaniel Brown taking the lead as Dorothy who will soon be wishing he could click those heels and just come back home.
gold! :p

davo dog
15 Feb 2006, 16:14
Tigers desperate for options
By Jon Anderson
15feb06
RICHMOND fans get ready for the ride because goals are again on the menu this season.

i think that this title says it all.......if Pat Bowden (on what he showed on the field at the dogs) is a potential star, im not even sure desperate is the right word, i would go with clutching at straws....

That said i have no doubt on the track Pat would be flying, he always looked the goods with the dogs, but man could he go missing on the footy field, every team knows it and will put the heat on him straight away and once again he will hide. Its not something you can learn IMO, you either like the contact and thrive or dont like the contact and play for richmond

As for dice mans "better and more stable place" i dont think the dogs have recently made there players move rat droppings from the change rooms, or paint the hall ways? Our boys will have a $20 million training centre, the envy of the league, you been to Punt road oval lately Dice, looks like it might fall over in a stiff breeze.
its not that bad, they have a solarium and hair salon

~PC~
15 Feb 2006, 16:23
Wait until he turns and put's his first shot out on the full.

Tiger supporters heads will explode as they try to work out which Bowden to abuse first.

~PC~
15 Feb 2006, 16:27
You'd have spat on Frawley if he was your coach, besides, the guy admitted in court he was a Brisbane supporter, but dont you go letting any facts get in teh way of your pea-brained response.

Coach sackings?? I think you'll find the Dogs sacked a coach more recentley than Richmond. Strike 2.

Strike 1 - Spitting if about as foul an action as they come. Regardless of how bad you thought he was (and remember, we had Rohde, at least Frawley took you to finals) spitting on him just isn't right and is completely non justifiable.

Strike 2 - Yes, we're able to identify that we've made a mistake and correct it, unlike Richmond who held on to a sub standard coach in the attempt to convince themselves they were better than others by not fixing a problem. Great management there.

Strike 3 - You're in our house. If you don't like our opinions, don't post here, simple.

Pugsta
15 Feb 2006, 18:47
Richmond is becoming quite the Wizard of Oz production.

Pat Bowden playing the tinman looking for a heart, Richo playing the scarewcrow looking for a brain, Joel Bowden playing the part of the cowardly lion looking for the nerve and our old boy Nathaniel Brown taking the lead as Dorothy who will soon be wishing he could click those heels and just come back home.
Very good. Made me laugh out loud :D

BC013
15 Feb 2006, 21:12
Embarassed to say I was a Bowden fan for about 3 weeks in 2003.

No we don't have sour grapes just cause he went to Richmond - we hated him when he was at the Doggies, as a check of the past 12 months posts would confirm.

I know I'm putting my neck out here but P.Bowden will be playing in the country league by 2008. He just hasn't got it!

fred cook
15 Feb 2006, 21:29
You'd have spat on Frawley if he was your coach, besides, the guy admitted in court he was a Brisbane supporter, but dont you go letting any facts get in teh way of your pea-brained response.

Coach sackings?? I think you'll find the Dogs sacked a coach more recentley than Richmond. Strike 2.

Board spills? When did this happen, oh sorry, you're speaking out your ass again.

Players driving drunk?? He was actually around .05 but he was a P-Plater so technically he's over the limit. Hardly drunk. But in the end it was a blessing as it enabled us to get a major sponsor worth 200 grand a year more.

Strike 3. Have a nice day:)


Excuse me but havent you had two recent members try to take your board on in recent times


One coach took his side to the finals the other one had a ratio of 7 wins out of 48 and he still didnt get spat on or recieve a truck load of chicken ******** put on his home ground


But I am wrong about one thing you are a quite stable club

Two finals apperances in 25 years

Now thats stable.

Aquamarinejewel
15 Feb 2006, 21:32
Richmond is becoming quite the Wizard of Oz production.

Pat Bowden playing the tinman looking for a heart, Richo playing the scarewcrow looking for a brain, Joel Bowden playing the part of the cowardly lion looking for the nerve and our old boy Nathaniel Brown taking the lead as Dorothy who will soon be wishing he could click those heels and just come back home.

For those of you with cable who may be interested, it so happens that "The Wizard of Oz" movie has just started playing on Optus/Foxtel on Turner Classic Movies now. :)

UnCani
15 Feb 2006, 22:09
Um, thanks for that. Strange that he didn't seem so enthusiastic last year.

Who did we get for that pick?


I had to re-read it. I thought you said...

scooter600x
15 Feb 2006, 22:31
I had to re-read it. I thought you said...
Made me laugh.

The answers Montgomery.

The Dice Man
15 Feb 2006, 23:50
Yeah yeah have your laugh at the expense of the Tigers. I can hack it, and it IS your backyard as someone said so I have to cop it sweet... But Im watching!

This is all just part of the build up to round one, where Nathan Brown will make a magnificent comeback kicking 37 goals and Patrick Bowden will kick a lazy 14.1


Now we've also got a bit of an athlete fellow that we like to call Richo, who as all here know, just happens to love tearing you guys a new one.

Out of the last 5 times our clubs have played Richmond are up 4 to 1. Our last 9 are Rich 6 to 3.

I think Terry Wallace has 7 wins against Rodney Eade's 2 when they come head to head.

Bring on round 1.:thumbsu:

skooshtamart
16 Feb 2006, 00:33
I think Terry Wallace has 7 wins against Rodney Eade's 2 when they come head to head.

:


sounds about right

Bulldog victories 7
Richmond victories 1 (questionable victory at that)
Sydney victories 1

The Dice Man
16 Feb 2006, 00:43
sounds about right

Bulldog victories 7
Richmond victories 1 (questionable victory at that)
Sydney victories 1


Eade V Wallace has occured only twice at their current clubs, for a 1 all.

~PC~
16 Feb 2006, 01:32
This is all just part of the build up to round one, where Nathan Brown will make a magnificent comeback kicking 37 goals and Patrick Bowden will kick a lazy 14.1

This is what i like to commonly call "Supertramp Syndrome".

flamethrower
16 Feb 2006, 06:07
If Richmond are relying on Patrick Bowden to be their saviour or messiah, then heaven help them.......because Patrick wont.

Ruiner
16 Feb 2006, 07:58
A forward line of Richo & P. Bowden has to be up there on the huge ability , no heart scale. Lets just put em up against Harris and Shaggy and see how it shakes out.

SCRAY72
16 Feb 2006, 11:44
Very funny thread this. If Bowden tanked it in 2005,what the f*** was he doing the previous 4 years?
Lazy player with a bit of natural ability who misses far too many easy goals from 15 to 20 metres out.
Problem with the rumour is that is highly likely Eade had already put a line through Bowden very early in 2005.
Gave everyone a chance,guys like Gilbee,Hargrave,Robbins etc. responded, Bowden didn't hence he was shown the door.

desipura
16 Feb 2006, 11:49
Seriously though........ Patrick Bowden won your time trial only last week. Does not say much about the rest of the group. Pat was never in the top 12 players in our time trials!

ErnieSigley
16 Feb 2006, 15:54
If Richmond are relying on Patrick Bowden to be their saviour or messiah, then heaven help them.......because Patrick wont.
Yes there are and Ray Hall at CHB will be their other saviour.

Urtle
16 Feb 2006, 18:04
Dont even know why this thread has one on for as long as it has....yep best wishes to him, but who cares about him now, not a bulldog and really never was a bulldog, very similar to a Mark Alvey in that way.

I would like to see where Pat is playing Rnds 18-22 this season, have a feeling the last jumper he will have on this season will be a Coburg one...that is starting to wear out and fade....

Gooka
17 Feb 2006, 09:41
Why was my post deleted?

seriously...