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Dry Rot
16 Feb 2006, 11:17
Most here seem to have one of Skipper, Murphy or Morgan at CHF. Also most seem have Hargrave at CHB, while a few have gone for Morgan. Grant may also play there.
Skipper and Morgan appear to be competing for CHF. Skipper appears unlikely to be used down back, and Morgan is competing with Hargrave, Grant and possibly Wight for CHB.
If either Davidson or Walsh are in the side at FF, does this mean that only one of Skipper or Morgan will play?
Who is more likely to start Rd1 and why?
SonOfScray
16 Feb 2006, 12:00
If Morgan can stay fit, he is the man. I'm looking forward to seeing this guy string a few games together, he has put in a few quality performances, even if only for a quarter or two at a time. If he gets himself right, he'll be terrific value.
I recently was talking about Morgan after watching a few replays on Fox. There was a game against Collingwood where he presented well and took some strong marks, also his game against Carlton in Shepparton was brilliant, as was the follow job on Fevola. Morgan seems to have taken his opportunities a bit more than Skipper IMO, however he has probably been given more responsibility on the ground as a KPP which may effect my perceptions.
Does anyone else think that maybe Morgan will end up like Kretiuk/Crofty who were plagued by injuries for a long time but eventually worked through it and went onto to play some of their best footy in the 2nd half of their respective careers? I can see a bit of similarity between Morgans injury problems and those pesky hamstrings of Crofty's which held him back for a long time.
Skipper is a player who should he step up and be a regular contributor will give us great value. I liked what I saw against Geelong, also when he played in the backline. If his tackling improves, he'd be a handy tall defender.
scooter600x
16 Feb 2006, 12:37
If Morgan can stay fit, he is the man.
I rather Morgan because I have seen him do the business at Werribee.
I'm going to contradict myself here because I saw Morgan take 15 marks from CHF v Bendigo, but I think he is much more suited to the backline.
King of the Mountain
16 Feb 2006, 15:51
Morgan can play most of the key positions fairly well but much like Scooter I think CHB is probably his best position.
Skipper for CHF and Grant at FF.
Polly Purser
16 Feb 2006, 22:17
I rather Morgan because I have seen him do the business at Werribee.
Same here. I think he is also a lot tougher. If he stays fit he will be a valuable player for us.
Aquamarinejewel
16 Feb 2006, 22:29
Morgan is my pick here aswell, providing the injury factor doesn't come into it, I think he will be very good for the club. In saying that Skipper could surprise us all.
Doggies05'
17 Feb 2006, 18:24
I would really love to see Grant at FF because is just awesome up forward when in form.
sO CHF leaves for Davidson, Morgan or Skipper
Id like Skipper Preferably and Morgan at CHB. When Davidson gets ready to play senior which he isnt far off, id liek to see him and GRanty playing FF next to eachother. Therefore one of Grant, Skipper or Davidson will get teh 3rd defender. Then goign on to mean if Murphy plays up fwd he gets the 4th and Robbo teh 5th.
I believe robbo and Murph will kick bags with the 4th and 5th defenders.
Where to rest Street and Minson?
I think both can be dangerous up forward. But 4 talls up fwd and thats not including Baird? Wont be too effective.
Fwd Kpp options:
Grant, Skipper, Davidson, Street/Minson, Baird
Backline Kpp options:
Harris, Morgan maybe Wight.
Morgan is the key player. If he can play CHB well then taht leaves Grant fwd and he will always be dangerous as will either one of Street/Minson and as a bonus it would be amazing to see atleast 1 of davo, skipper or Baird step up as a great KPP.
TEAM LINEUP:
B: Morris, Harris, Smith
HB: Gilbee, Morgan, McMahon
C: Giansiracusa, West, Griffen
HF: Johnson, Skipper, Murphy
FF: Robbins, Grant, Davidson
R: Minson, Cross, Cooney
That was my initial team
Leaving out the likes of Street, Ray, Monty, Hargrave, Baird, Birss, power, Boyd and KMAC (who seems to be a big surprise)
Great depth and even with key injuries, the team looks very solid.
OldSchool
17 Feb 2006, 18:55
TEAM LINEUP:
B: Morris, Harris, Smith
HB: Gilbee, Morgan, McMahon
C: Giansiracusa, West, Griffen
HF: Johnson, Skipper, Murphy
FF: Robbins, Grant, Davidson
R: Minson, Cross, Cooney
That was my initial team
Leaving out the likes of Street, Ray, Monty, Hargrave, Baird, Birss, power, Boyd and KMAC (who seems to be a big surprise)
Great depth and even with key injuries, the team looks very solid.
No Hargrave and no Hahn is very surprising. Why the omissions?
Doggies05'
17 Feb 2006, 21:19
The Omissions were not done purposely but i guess just very caught up in who to put where because of the depth.
So many players to play in so many positions and i guess i didnt no where to fit them in.
If Hahn was tried to fit anywhere into the sqaud you'd be questioning the likes of Mcmahon, Robbins and Cross. Hahn really needs to esatblish a position that is his! at the moment he is very versatile but hasnt stamped himself a place in the starting 18.
As the same as so many other players liek Birss, Boyd, Power
King of the Mountain
18 Feb 2006, 14:48
The Omissions were not done purposely but i guess just very caught up in who to put where because of the depth.
So many players to play in so many positions and i guess i didnt no where to fit them in.
If Hahn was tried to fit anywhere into the sqaud you'd be questioning the likes of Mcmahon, Robbins and Cross. Hahn really needs to esatblish a position that is his! at the moment he is very versatile but hasnt stamped himself a place in the starting 18.
As the same as so many other players liek Birss, Boyd, Power
Based on what I have seen and read this is the team that I would think will play of Friday night.We need to consider the humid conditions.
Faulkner Harris Morris
Smith Hargrave McMahon
Gilbee Skipper Giansiracusa
RobMurphy Skipper Griffen
McGuinness Johnson Robbins
Minson Cooney Cross
Street Power Hahn Davidson
Boyd Higgins BMurphy Birss
No Eagleton because of his injury and of course Darcy Williams and Walsh because of long term injury.
I would not risk Grant Ray Baird and Morgan just yet
I would not risk Grant Ray Baird and Morgan just yet
If Morgan is fit I think he needs to play...he is weeks behind the others and needs the game time.
Dry Rot
21 Feb 2006, 16:05
If Morgan is fit I think he needs to play...he is weeks behind the others and needs the game time.
I see what you're saying, but isn't there a counter argument to take things slowly with a player with his history of injuries?
King of the Mountain
21 Feb 2006, 16:23
I see what you're saying, but isn't there a counter argument to take things slowly with a player with his history of injuries?
I think the answer is to give him half a game.With the extended bench that shouldnt be a problem.
Based on what I have seen and read this is the team that I would think will play of Friday night.We need to consider the humid conditions.
Faulkner Harris Morris
Smith Hargrave McMahon
Gilbee Skipper Giansiracusa
RobMurphy Skipper Griffen
McGuinness Johnson Robbins
Minson Cooney Cross
Street Power Hahn Davidson
Boyd Higgins BMurphy Birss
No Eagleton because of his injury and of course Darcy Williams and Walsh because of long term injury.
I would not risk Grant Ray Baird and Morgan just yet
Hopefully no one tall rocks up for Melbourne.
OldSchool
21 Feb 2006, 18:33
Hopefully no one tall rocks up for Melbourne.
We know Neitz is out and I suppose that leaves just Miller, Robertson and Holland as key forwards.
I'm not sure the Dogs will go into the game much taller than KOTM listed.
Are we talking intra-club.
I would think Morgan CHB and Skip CHF, in an ideal world of course,
assuming fitness and form. Still not convinced by Skipper, but I'm a big fan of "Anthony":)
Dry Rot
22 Feb 2006, 14:50
Are we talking intra-club.
I would think Morgan CHB and Skip CHF, in an ideal world of course,
assuming fitness and form. Still not convinced by Skipper, but I'm a big fan of "Anthony":)
Agree - I reckon Morgan would make a better CHB than CHF.