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Andre
24 Feb 2006, 11:07
Illegal bowling actions now legal aside, there are two main problems in test cricket at the moment (in my opinion).

They are :
1) Teams of questionable strength playing.
2) The requirement to play every side over a period of time, with so many test nations now, makes for scheduling headaches.

Both problems could be solved by the creation of two divisions.

The first 'premier' division would consist of the top 8 test playing nations. Over a three year period each nation would be required to play the others home and away, for a minimum 3 test series. This may require a bit of heresay - dropping the Ashes and Windies tours back to a 3 or 4 test series to fit 7 home and away tours in, but I think it's worth it. The first division teams at present would be Australia, New Zealand, England, South Africa, Sri Lanka, India, Pakistan and the West Indies.

The second division would consist of other nations who think they will someday be worthy of making the first division - currently it would comprise the likes of Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Canada etc. These teams would play off against each other over the same three year period.

You immediately remove the embarrasment that is Bangladesh and Zimbabwe from test cricket. Nations from the first division could still play tests against the second division if they want, BUT none would be official tests, with runs or wickets going into the record books.

To make it interesting and allow for second division teams to advance to the first division, after the three year period has elapsed the top second division team and the bottom first division team play back to back home and away 3 test series (first division team to decide whether play home or away first). The winner (if for some reason tied at 0 or 1 series win apiece and same number of test wins it counts as a win for first division team) will go into the first division and the loser the second division.

So given current rankings, in 3 years you could see the West Indies and Bangladesh play off for the final test nation position for the following 3 years.

A radical idea, but one worth looking at IMO.

POBT
24 Feb 2006, 14:28
This may require a bit of heresay

:confused: :confused:

I don't know where to start. Is it heresy or hearsay? Neither seems to fit.

Cleavy
24 Feb 2006, 17:36
The second division would consist of other nations who think they will someday be worthy of making the first division - currently it would comprise the likes of Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Canada etc. These teams would play off against each other over the same three year period.

Excluding the promotion/relegation idea, the second division already exists. It's called the ICC Intercontinental Cup. (http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc-iccic/content/story/227858.html)

pluga_4
24 Feb 2006, 22:10
it's a load of boloney.

*new zealand took 27 years to win their first test match and 40 years to win their first test series.

*india took 20 years to win their first test and 21 years to win their first test series and have been a test nation for 74 years and haven't won a test series in australia or south africa.

*pakistan took 4 years to win their first test series and still after being a test nation for 50 years have never won a series in australia or south africa.

*sri lanka took 4 years to win their first test and series then a further 8 and still haven't won a series in aust, sth af, wi or india.

even sth africa took 17 years to win a test and the windies 6.


so bangladesh are doing remarkably well all things considered.

CossieforAus
24 Feb 2006, 22:41
Trying to think where I have heard so much crap before

Nope, cant think of any time

These sides will never improve playing Canada, Scotland etc all the time

BTW, can you seriously see any of the top 8 nations accepting being dropped back to Div 2 if they lost the relegation series?

Sidey_87
24 Feb 2006, 23:05
Trying to think where I have heard so much crap before

Nope, cant think of any time

These sides will never improve playing Canada, Scotland etc all the time

BTW, can you seriously see any of the top 8 nations accepting being dropped back to Div 2 if they lost the relegation series?
Nope, i'll have to agree there.
Bangladesh are improving rapidly because they have been playing world class sides.