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uglydermie
7 Jul 2006, 17:08
here it is boys- just stuck my finger out the office window (23 floors above Collins St). Gunna be something like this:

Forecast for Saturday
Drizzle or light showers clearing by early afternoon. Cloudy periods with a
moderate to occasionally fresh northwesterly wind.

Precis: Becoming fine.
City: Min 9 Max 14

on moving forward....

Sunday Fine. Windy. Min 8 Max 15
Monday Little rain developing. Windy. Min 10 Max 16
Tuesday Rain at times. Min 10 Max 13
Wednesday Few showers. Min 5 Max 13
Thursday Mostly fine. Min 7 Max 13




re the Chief: Played against him many times - biggest problem was he was to nice.... also bumped into him a few times late at night and hit the **** with him. VERY VERY nice man.

Ugly will do his tips over a quiet ale this evening.

Ava good 1

UGLY out

DG-Man
7 Jul 2006, 17:25
Ugly,

You love those late tips. Are you flicking back through the pages and checking out your competitors tips before releasing your wisdom??

Having a beer tonight? Before a game?? I guess the veteran players are allowed a little slack!

Cheers DG

The Late Mail
7 Jul 2006, 17:41
Youv'e gotta love this forum!!!! fantastic stuff all round!

Have to agree with you there Knackers, good forum! I'm considering coming and playing in D grade next year just so I can be involved. A-section thread boring as bat-sh1t!

DG-Man
7 Jul 2006, 17:50
LM,

I saw you tried to liven things up the other week with your Dineen/Hailibury gags. Can you tell us who you play with in A-Grade?Perhaps some of us here will share some common ground with you!!
And perhaps try and steal you for next season!

Amused
7 Jul 2006, 17:51
[quote=uglydermie]here it is boys- just stuck my finger out the office window (23 floors above Collins St). Gunna be something like this:

Some danger games in these conditions. 2 upsets on the cards and the possibility of a third. Y.V will get up over Ruop and Banyule will be the big upset over O.G. And B.T will have to be switched on to aviod a scare from the Leos.
Hey Ugly or Bullant 10. What about those old timers running around in the seconds. The same names keep popping up. One i didnt mention was Parris. He was a gun in the 90's.

linger_isgod
7 Jul 2006, 18:11
Didn't realise Luke Maslin was back with O.C's till I read this week's diatribe by the Qwill. More than handy pick up.

kingbrown
7 Jul 2006, 19:26
Tip tomorrow, Race 4 no.1 Busby Glenn. Will enter the Hall of Fame, no doubt.

uglydermie
7 Jul 2006, 19:44
Ugly,

You love those late tips. Are you flicking back through the pages and checking out your competitors tips before releasing your wisdom??

Having a beer tonight? Before a game?? I guess the veteran players are allowed a little slack!

Cheers DG
ease up DG- I was a veteran once- many years ago! perhaps now an old fossel would be a more accurate description. I am starting to build a bit of profile on you thou - word on the street is that you are still a very handy player - doing plenty of good work with a particular club based in south yarra..... dark hair - lowish number!

Ugly out!

Henry24
7 Jul 2006, 21:35
YV V Rupo
Mentone V Therry
Banyule V OG
BT V St Leos
Prahran V OC

Good luck to all and have an injury free saturday!

OM's VFL boys not released, therry would be very happy about that.
Waters released for BT
Ugly, Is Ryan Bain playing again?

uglydermie
7 Jul 2006, 22:23
Ugly reckons:

OC by 29 points
OGs by phone numbers
BT by 10 goals plus
YV on the smaller ground to beat Rupo
OM's at home in a walk in the park over Therry (and all their superstars....)

Ryan Bain is playing again...

DG-Man
8 Jul 2006, 03:30
Only fishing Ugly. I think i know who you are, but i'm not 100% If you give me the ok to have a guess on forum i will. But i respect the anonomity of guys involved at a club. If you are not a player, let me throw out a theory. If you are i will keep it to myself.

DG

uglydermie
8 Jul 2006, 07:23
I trust that you perhaps are a very good fisherman DG. I will have no problem disclosing my identity at the completion of the season - not that it will interest many....as I am just a mere AMMO supporter that loves his club.

Good luck to all the teams today

Archangel17
8 Jul 2006, 10:02
hi all,

been reading for months, but never posted.. Finally got of my a#$# and decided i would register. Two posts. First one tips

OC by 3pts- some big names back at Prarhan and rumours of more to come but OC just
Banyule -upset brewing out at the Bears patch...OGs wont like the physical play of the ilk of Scicko
OM by 60
BT by 6 goals
YV by 19 even without stevenson(if he doesnt come up- keem will be back anyway)

Archangel17
8 Jul 2006, 11:00
Framing the market, would look like this:

BT 3.00
OC 3.75
OG 4.50
Rupo 9.00
YV 15.00 think they can catch rupo if they stay fit
Therry 40.00
OM 50.00
Write your own ticket the others.

Relegation odds

Prahran 1.33( if in fact scicluna, Mccudden, Sleight , Stafford are back.. can they beat the odds??)
ESL 2.40
Banyule 3.30
OM's 15.00
Therry 41.00
YV 80.00

few changes
Quickest - Old Geelong
Most skillful - Old Geelong.- dont rate this. find BT, OC, Rupo, Yv all more skillful- YV not let down by skill or size, fitness is issue
Biggest forwards - Yarra Valley
Best Forward - Parton, Vickers-Willis, Chivers,J Bannister-rate him more highly than Corey as a more complete forward package
Best Midfield - Old Carey, great depth
Best Backline - Bulleen Temp
Most Physical - BT- close second Banyule.. very phsyical for a young side..watch Scicko.. will win a comp best and fairest one day if he can stay focused.
Best Ruckman - Ballard, Basell- both comprehensively beat Rady who is still somehow considered pinnacle.. but would now rate about 5th.. Waters would be here if he had played enough.. also rate Banule ruckmanBest onballers - Collins, Crotty.
Best Coach - Barnes....

kingbrown
8 Jul 2006, 19:12
Thought i'd log in. Very disappointing day for the Rupo team. The most disappointing fact about today was as YV got the ascendancy in the 2nd quarter we became undisciplined. Backchatting and generally showing frustration. To fight back and get within a couple of goals was good, but as soon as YV got the ascendancy in the last quarter we started becoming undisciplined again. If you were watching us today you would have called us spoilt brats. Los of work to do!

The ground was a bog. I said Rupo's ground was only average YV's is terrible. Still 19 goals by them suggests there skill level in these conditions were exceptional. Some of the one grab marking both down back and forward was tremendous by YV. We suffered a couple of important injuries however YV lost one of the Drew brothers early. Don't know how serious (he could hardly Walk), but looking at their seconds there is't much to pick from.

Looking forward to a true turnaround in the coming weeks. Write us off at your own peril.

kingbrown
8 Jul 2006, 19:45
I thought we should take a vote. Which thread was the more realistic. Busby Glenn making the hall of fame or Therry saying they'll make the finals.

uglydermie
8 Jul 2006, 19:52
you are a good man Kingbrown. Thanks for the report.

Tell me what you thought of YV? Apart from the ground - worst in the comp by a mile....

How bad are the Rupo injuries?

I hope collins Captain #19) was not the one leading the internal abuse again like he did against BT?

Bt ordinary today. Worst we have played all year. 40 point wins should feel better than this. in saying that...ESL tried their guts out - Buckle did a good job on Chivas and Ballard was great in ruck all day.

DG-Man
8 Jul 2006, 22:22
Didn't see any games, just caught the scores. It is officially a 3 horse race. OC, OGS and BT. 2 of these sides will be playing C-Grade next year. Anyone other than Prahran, Leos and Banyule could make 4th. With Rupo's form, you may only need 10 wins to make 4th. Top 3 are certs. As the season goes on, the gap will get wider. BT are the form side, whilst OGS and OC have great depth and could have 5-6 injuries and still be far too strong for the other 7 teams.
A top 2 finish is so important. From there, you only need 1 win from 2 attempts to jump up a grade. I think the Rupo / YV result showed the gap forming between the top 3 sides and the rest. OC looked plenty better than YV, yet Rupo struggled today against them.
Unfortunately kingbrown, i am going to write you off as a genuine Grand Final chance this year. You guys may still finish 4th, but i could not see you pulling off 2 wins agains the big 3 come finals time.
Anyone else got some match reports?? Carey boys, Therry??

DG

Is that so
9 Jul 2006, 02:28
Ugly I heard that Matthews and Williams both kicked 5 each for BT can you confirm? pretty amazing that 2 of the older players still so dangerours, does this add weight to recent posts enquiring about other senior (older) players still playing in the reserves that are in the best players?
Is the BT strength its veterans?

Why worst game of year in what areas?

Is that so
9 Jul 2006, 02:42
As you do on a Saturday when you get home alone at 1.30 in the morning, looking for some useless stats !
The VAFA website team stats shows players names number of games etc.

There has been lots of talk on this thread about injured players or players coming back etc, here are my findings (before todays games)
Number of players that have played at least 1 senior game this year per team:

BT :43
OM :40
Ban :39
Rup :38
OC : 37
TP :37
ESL :37
OG :35
YV :35
Pra :33

What does this mean some had more injuries than others, or depth is such that playesr are elevated or dropped any thoughts?

Is that so
9 Jul 2006, 02:56
By the way tipped 5 this week think I'll go back out and have another beer to celebrate!
:thumbsu: :thumbsu: :thumbsu: :thumbsu:

Bit lonely on here at his time!

Creeker
9 Jul 2006, 10:55
I was at the Therry game today, and Therry were good all day the umpires and I don't know there names sorry guys, basically cheated there is no other explanantion. Therry must have had no more than 10 free kicks all day OM's 40 and about 6 in front of goal. Therry had a player sent of for attacking the ball. I mean if the game has now stopped a player going hard and fast at the ball why do we play the game!!
Positive notes, Forster Knight down back was BOG and O'Connor up forward with 6, should have kicked 10 for the amount of times he was held hit or taken out when the ball was coming down!
Must win for them next week or they could be looking at D2 and not finals....
Keep up the good posts guys

Toohas
9 Jul 2006, 11:21
No arguments about the condition of Domeney. It was amazing how bad our ground got in the space of a week. It was fine to train on it on Tuesday. Yarra went for about the last 45 minutes of the game with only one fit man on the bench. The Knees Road end of the ground was definitely the scoring end, each quarter was won by the team kicking in that direction.

It seemed Rupertswood were trying to play dry weather football in these conditions and our pressure forced them to cough the ball up. You are right, King Brown, it definitely seemed like there was a lot of arguing going on amongst teammates and after it was a pretty evenly matched game at 3/4 time (we were two goals up, but Rupo had outscored us by three in the third quarter), we thought Rupertswood would give it a massive shake in the last quarter, but they finished the game off with barely a whimper. I thought #32 was great for you guys and #19 (Collins?) got plenty of the footy. You've got some great lookalikes in your team, too, dead ringers for Riewoldt and Troy Luff! Couldn't believe how long your coach kept your boys out on the ground after the game, I'd imagine he wouldn't have been too happy.

One negative though, when Rob Drew went down, I'll admit there didn't look like there was much in it at the time and the way he was hobbling around after a free kick got paid, you may have thought he was staging (The Rupertswood coaching box certainly seemed to have this view). Yet, when he had to be carried off the ground, as he couldn't walk, your coaches box started laughing very loudly, I thought that was an absolute disgrace and poor sportsmanship towards a player who is undoubtedly one of the very best in our comp. The three Drew brothers are three of the toughest footballers I've seen and for Rob to go off in that fashion indicated that he was in a great deal of pain. To your player's credit, he went straight over to Rob and apologised as Rob was getting taken off, but as far as I'm concerned your coaches box was much worse than the players as far as whinging and b**ching went.

Phil Valoppi got BOG for us, with Trend, Lecordier, Ash Drew, Britt (first game back) and Stone other good players for us. Keema kicked a few snags in his first game back and with Herbie Hancock back this week, along with a number of other senior players, the competition for spots will be massive and we are going to Old Geelong with the intention of winning.

Archangel17
9 Jul 2006, 16:07
Keema first game back?? he only missed one didnt he??Did Stevenson play? If not how long is he out?

Toohas
9 Jul 2006, 16:18
Yeah, he was a last minute withdrawal for the OC game, kicked four I think yesterday. Stevo out for a while, spiral break of the fibula, he's had some shocking injuries over the years and he will definitely be missed, one of the most popular, most courageous and best players going around at YV. He won our B&F by a country mile last year at CHB and was a consistent goalkicker and target playing at CHF this year. I guess the silver lining for the club is that Britt came back yesterday after about a month out and Hancock returned from overseas, yesterday and will be a definite starter against Old Geelong.

BlueBoys88
9 Jul 2006, 19:57
Fairly predictable round of footy over the weekend with the exception of the yarra vs rupo match, and the extent of the margin would suprise a majority of readers.

OM's have well surely put a nail in the therry coffin?
Huge game for both rupo and yarra valley this week!

Let the run home to finals begin!!!

On an unrelated topic, there has been much speculation about the identities of certain posters. I think the beauty of this forum is that one can take on an alias to post honest, intelligent, supportive and at times harsh comments on players, coaches and clubs without being ridiculed.

uglydermie
9 Jul 2006, 20:05
Re the identity of people. Totally agree with the previous post - if you need to speculate can I suggest the use of private messages. The beauty of this forum is the way in which we can freely comment on D1 issues.

Maybe at the end of the season we could all catch up for beer at a central pub - we are all probably pretty similar blokes (or ladies).

Ugly - out.

Henry24
10 Jul 2006, 01:46
It is officially a 3 horse race. OC, OGS and BT.

DG

How can you rule Yarra Valley out of it DG? Surely they are peaking at the right time of the year, and getting quality players back by the sound of it. No doubt they have great potential, the first quarter agaist BT was enough to confirm that they have talent for mine, especially in the forward half and with the drew brothers in the midfield.

Toohas, what was the extent of the Rob Drew injury? Miss any games?

Is That So, great research and stats, interesting results.

Keep up the good work lads, top reading!!

Conduct Unbecoming
10 Jul 2006, 09:56
[quote=Henry24]How can you rule Yarra Valley out of it DG? Surely they are peaking at the right time of the year, and getting quality players back by the sound of it. No doubt they have great potential, the first quarter agaist BT was enough to confirm that they have talent for mine... quote]

Totally agree Henry, I have said repeatedly, YV's 1st quater v BT was the best quater of football I have seen this year (in D1 anyway). YV to take 4th spot for mine !! Agree with you too Toohas (the thinking man's DI thread contributor), Rob Drew is a really hard player to match up against, tough but fair. Unfortunate to hear of the circumstances from Saturday.

IMO both OG and OC remain the best chances to progress to C grade...BT have beaten OC, OG YV and Rupo and with R Bain from Essendon and T Waters back from Port Melbourne, they can not be underestimated. Ugly/Bullant, my spies tell me neither Ryan or Matt Bain played v St Leos?? Just resting Ryan after his first game back at the large Como oval?? What about Matt - BOG v OG then missing?? Injured or playing VFL??

Is that So - great work re the player stats..to be on the net at 1:30am on any website other than www.bigjuggs.com (http://www.bigjuggs.com) suggests to all of us that you are clearly an ammo football nut, gay or the Qwill (or all three). Either way, I dips my lid to you my friend...

Archangel17 (best name on this thread imo) - they are some handy names returning at Prahran. Can you confirm that they are playing again?

And finally, to the Carey posters...any truth in the rumour that Carey have been playing their reserves team in the seniors all year and have 21 guns returning from injury, overseas, retirement, interstate, Guantanemo Bay and the International Space Station in the coming weeks....if we take this thread as gospel, it appears that there is a whole other side sitting mysteriously by the sideline ready to come back in the next few weeks....:)

AJPAJP
10 Jul 2006, 10:31
[quote=Henry24]How can you rule Yarra Valley out of it DG? Surely they are peaking at the right time of the year, and getting quality players back by the sound of it. No doubt they have great potential, the first quarter agaist BT was enough to confirm that they have talent for mine... quote]

Totally agree Henry, I have said repeatedly, YV's 1st quater v BT was the best quater of football I have seen this year (in D1 anyway). YV to take 4th spot for mine !! Agree with you too Toohas (the thinking man's DI thread contributor), Rob Drew is a really hard player to match up against, tough but fair. Unfortunate to hear of the circumstances from Saturday.

IMO both OG and OC remain the best chances to progress to C grade...BT have beaten OC, OG YV and Rupo and with R Bain from Essendon and T Waters back from Port Melbourne, they can not be underestimated. Ugly/Bullant, my spies tell me neither Ryan or Matt Bain played v St Leos?? Just resting Ryan after his first game back at the large Como oval?? What about Matt - BOG v OG then missing?? Injured or playing VFL??

Is that So - great work re the player stats..to be on the net at 1:30am on any website other than www.bigjuggs.com (http://www.bigjuggs.com) suggests to all of us that you are clearly an ammo football nut, gay or the Qwill (or all three). Either way, I dips my lid to you my friend...

Archangel17 (best name on this thread imo) - they are some handy names returning at Prahran. Can you confirm that they are playing again?

And finally, to the Carey posters...any truth in the rumour that Carey have been playing their reserves team in the seniors all year and have 21 guns returning from injury, overseas, retirement, interstate, Guantanemo Bay and the International Space Station in the coming weeks....if we take this thread as gospel, it appears that there is a whole other side sitting mysteriously by the sideline ready to come back in the next few weeks....:)

Bullants were Bainless on Saturday, Mattys form earned a callup to Oakleigh Chargers

DG-Man
10 Jul 2006, 11:26
Henry, may be a little harsh to be ruling out YV. I guess i am saying i don't believe the team finishing 4th will make the GF. YV may indeed finish 4th, but i think that is as far as they may go. I expect OGS to touch up YV next week, meaning the following weeks game for YV against BT will become a must win. We will see!

Tipping Ladder (A lot of 5's this week as all favourites won!)

MJS2 (5) 22

Ugly (5) 21

DG-Man (5) 20 (unlucky not to get 6 this week!)
Henry (4) 20
Is It So (5) 20
St.Kevs Cowboy (5) 20
Hansie (5) 20

Bullant (4) 18
Moss Rocket (5) 18
Bede me Up (5) 18

SSBob (3) 17
Toohas (4) 17
Midas (4) 17

Mystery Dog (3) 15

OC37 (2) 14
King Brown (4) 14
Half Back (4) 14
Blue Boys 88 (4) 14
Knackers (4) 14

ILSSully (3) 13

* Sorry Sandra, but i had to highlight your position. Some (not me of course) will be happy to see you struggling down there. A few large calls recently are not being backed up on the field!

* You will all notice that the tipping ladder is a new improved version allowing for people to see what everyone else scored for the week. As the weeks roll on and the tension mounts (who will be the winner!) it may be important to have as much info as possible on your main opposition!

Some great new input in the last week or two. Theories are being slapped left, right and centre! Keep it up!

Toohas
10 Jul 2006, 11:53
How can you rule Yarra Valley out of it DG? Surely they are peaking at the right time of the year, and getting quality players back by the sound of it. No doubt they have great potential, the first quarter agaist BT was enough to confirm that they have talent for mine, especially in the forward half and with the drew brothers in the midfield.

Toohas, what was the extent of the Rob Drew injury? Miss any games?


He copped a knee in the quad from a player coming at full speed, so it was probably the mother of all corkies. I hope he doesn't miss any games, but I guess I'll know more after training on Tuesday.

To be honest, we don't give a toss if other sides rate us or not, we beat Old Geelong pretty convincingly last time we played them and we will potentially be putting our best side of the season on the park on Saturday. Why wouldn't we think we can win?

Kibe
10 Jul 2006, 12:23
Really good effort from Leo's on Saturday. I think the BT supporters will agree that we had as much of the play as them, and as many inside 50's. The only difference was that BT took their opportunities, and their key forwards stood up, and Leo's didn't.

DG-Man
10 Jul 2006, 12:26
Toohas, Not saying that the DG does not rate you, just do not think you are as good as the top 3 sides. As the season goes on, injuries can become more regular and i don't think your side has the depth (Ressies are 0-11) to make the GF. I guess if you had your best 22 available come finals time then anything is possible. Then again i still rate the best 22 from a few clubs as superior.
I will be tipping OGS next week, but will be happy to reconsider my thoughts on YV if you can beat them (but i guess you don't really give a toss about my thoughts anyway!:) )

Toohas
10 Jul 2006, 13:07
Number of players that have played at least 1 senior game this year per team:

BT :43
OM :40
Ban :39
Rup :38
OC : 37
TP :37
ESL :37
OG :35
YV :35
Pra :33

What does this mean some had more injuries than others, or depth is such that playesr are elevated or dropped any thoughts?

With 10th, 9th and 7th on the list, I'd suggest it indicates a lack of quality depth in the reserves, players that can come in and do a job in the seniors. I wrote a while back that we'd used 47 players last year and that seemed like way too much, but if you've got the fringe senior players running around in the twos, it will hold your team in good stead.

I think what it's also shown for us is that we've been pretty lucky with our injuries/abscences. We've had quite a few injuries this year, but it seems like just as a player has to miss a couple of weeks, another player is coming back from an injury and ready to take his place. The Old Carey game in Round 10 was probably the first where we've been found out for a lack of depth, after Stevo went down.

With Old Mentonians being right up the top, I suggest this points to the strength of their twos. When we played against them, I couldn't believe how many of their ones players from last year were running around in the reserves. They have the depth to cover for injuries at the moment and I think they are sneaking under the radar a bit. They are only half a game behind us. If they had beaten St. Leo's last week, they would be ahead of us on the ladder right now.

Correct, DG Man, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. It seems every Monday we have someone on the forum with their new and improved official statements (that have been completely changed from the previous week). Like last week when everyone was saying the winner of our game vs Rupertswood would definitely finish fourth. Well, we won and Rupertswood are still fourth. Bottom line is we need to win at least one more game than they do for the rest of the year to play finals. And I'm sure Old Mentonians and Therry aren't thinking about their footy trips just yet.

AJPAJP
10 Jul 2006, 13:32
As you do on a Saturday when you get home alone at 1.30 in the morning, looking for some useless stats !
The VAFA website team stats shows players names number of games etc.

There has been lots of talk on this thread about injured players or players coming back etc, here are my findings (before todays games)
Number of players that have played at least 1 senior game this year per team:

BT :43
OM :40
Ban :39
Rup :38
OC : 37
TP :37
ESL :37
OG :35
YV :35
Pra :33

What does this mean some had more injuries than others, or depth is such that playesr are elevated or dropped any thoughts?

How many clubs play a player out of the Reserves as the 4th interchange, this would distort these figures somewhat

DG-Man
10 Jul 2006, 13:51
Agree with the possible distortion. Perhaps a better indicator of something worth discussion would be how many players at each club have played all (or maybe 10 or 11) games this year. Who is getting there best 22 more regularly out on the track.

Is It So...you may be the man for this research project!

Toohas, i see nothing wrong with having an opinion that the current top 3 sides will fight it out for promotion this year. Doesn't seem like a crazy prediction to me! I think i was one of those who thought the winner of YV and Rupo would finish 4th. Saying that i think it is a 3 horse race does not go against this!

Hawker28
10 Jul 2006, 13:56
Long time reader, and must say a massive fan of this thread! Must say it has been a little quiet in here this morning, and we all know what i mean don't we ILSS!

D1 is starting to to clear up with some clear contenders and some that will find it hard to run home. You can not rule out Rupertswood by any mean's, a similar incident like this happen last year and they ran home only to get done in GF. Expect a finish somewhere round the 3rd 5th mark for the sharks.

Toohas
10 Jul 2006, 14:37
Yes OC, BT and OG have been good this year and would probably be the favourites to go up to C grade next year. My point is nothing is guaranteed. Unlike last year, it seems like who wins this year will depend, not only on who makes the final 4 and gets the double chance, but who they are matched up against in the finals. The top four each seem to have a bogey team (BT less so than the others since they reversed the OG result from Round 1) and the team that wins it may be the team that avoids playing against their bogey team in the finals. There have already been plenty of surprises and I don't think they're over with yet.

The Late Mail
10 Jul 2006, 15:05
LM,

I saw you tried to liven things up the other week with your Dineen/Hailibury gags. Can you tell us who you play with in A-Grade?Perhaps some of us here will share some common ground with you!!
And perhaps try and steal you for next season!

Ha ha thanks DGM, nice to know someone understood my humour! I don't claim to be a comic genius, just trying to add a little spice to an otherwise boring thread (not to metion a pretty boring day at the office!). Tried to open a a few cans but all I got was "your information is wrong" and "you are not funny"...can't blame a man for trying, back to the drawing board i guess. Still, I still got to stitch up Jono Horn which was satisfying, although from the responses, people probably think I consider him a well respected journalist!

Conduct Unbecoming
10 Jul 2006, 15:16
Ha ha thanks DGM, nice to know someone understood my humour! I don't claim to be a comic genius, just trying to add a little spice to an otherwise boring thread (not to metion a pretty boring day at the office!). Tried to open a a few cans but all I got was "your information is wrong" and "you are not funny"...can't blame a man for trying, back to the drawing board i guess. Still, I still got to stitch up Jono Horn which was satisfying, although from the responses, people probably think I consider him a well respected journalist!

Late Mail - I still don't get it? Bernie Dineen's name has not been in Marcellin's best all year. And as for the garlic mayo, it tasted a bit sour to me...

kingbrown
10 Jul 2006, 15:53
What is harder about assessing YV is the ground they play at. They murdered OG there and were far too good for us on Saturday. They looked less top heavy up forward with Keem and Lecordier very dangerous as well as (35) hanging out wide. (27) Savage was fantastic down back and (42) Stone was smart and a very solid man. (63) on a wing i thought he came off the bench Johnno they called him showed sublime skill with his left foot at times. Our skills and discipline in th second quarter was our worst for the year.
Toohas, this is nat an excuse but did you think you guys got the better of the umpiring Saturday. As the umpires walked off one of your supporters mentioned to the umpires it was the best umpiring he had ever seen at Amateur level. I thought this was funny.
I have talked up many teams, I rated Banyule last week and and have always rated Therry. I rated YV in our game earlier in the year. All going well for them i think they can beat anyone. Very solid side.

kingbrown
10 Jul 2006, 16:03
4 out of 6 at home over the coming weeks. Our boys have been fair and square beaten by better sides over the last 5 weeks. 3/4 losses have been away. Rupo need a few players getting confidence back and we can turn it around!

The guys contributing to this thread, brilliant.

Phar Lap
10 Jul 2006, 16:28
Cheers guys I thought the Big Red would have copped a pasting on here this morning. Come on ILSS I have come out of hiding I am sure you could do the same! What can I say about our game again we were 5 goals up at half time and again we fell a sleep in the 3rd quarter. We have a must win against St Leos this week otherwise we could be staring d2 in the face............
I think that it's a great idea that we all meet in a pub at the end of the year to have a few beers and talk about the season gone, let me know which one and I will be there.
Come on ILSS only a few weeks left untikl the big game, I think this thread will be running hot that week..........
Racing

Conduct Unbecoming
10 Jul 2006, 17:14
What is harder about assessing YV is the ground they play at. They murdered OG there and were far too good for us on Saturday.... I rated YV in our game earlier in the year. All going well for them i think they can beat anyone. Very solid side.

I think an earlier post from AJP highlighted the finals venue as Box Hill City Oval. Given this, I think YV (should they make it) will potentially struggle. Toohas, how have your guys fared on bigger, faster grounds this year?

On the other hand, should Rupo make it..they will find a venue exactly to their liking (fast, solid ground, wide open wings etc.).

I would think Carey, Old Geelong and BT will be fine no matter where its played. But, lets no everyone count their chickens before they hatch...still 7 games to go.

Toohas
10 Jul 2006, 17:28
#35 is Brad Peake, he will become our games record holder on Saturday. I personally think we look much better when he and Stoney are playing in the forward pockets, their poise when they've got the ball is terrific and they would probably be my number one and two picks to take a shot for us from 40m to win the game. They will really make teams pay for keying on Keem and Lecordier.

Keep quiet about Savage, he's one of the most underrated players in the league (first time I've heard his name mentioned) and I'm quite happy for it to stay that way. As for Johnno Trend, it was his best game for the club by a mile. He's easily our youngest player, but he's made the step up to senior footy and now he's developing the poise and trust in his teammates to really start putting his stamp on games.

We are suited to the wet conditions, definitely, but with guys like Britt, Hancock, Beal and Lear either back already or coming back, I think we will acquit ourselves quite well playing any style.

We've had the older umpire a few times now. He was red hot on us early in the season, we had started to get an ordinary reputation with regard to melees and backchatting the umpires. Barnsey has been harping on this issue and you won't hear much abuse from the Yarra boys towards the umpires anymore. This umpire in particular seems to be giving us and our style of play a bit more latitude as he becomes more familiar with us. The Therry Penola game was similar, we were first in for the ball and he looked after us. We are used to giving away more free kicks than we receive, the difference has been massive in alot of games, due to our physical style. Barnsey told us we were up 10-1 in the first half and the Rupo boys had 7-1 in the third quarter when they started getting in first for the ball. 25m have been down since we instituted a penalty that anyone giving one away had to do the dishes on Thursday night.

Toohas
10 Jul 2006, 17:39
I think an earlier post from AJP highlighted the finals venue as Box Hill City Oval. Given this, I think YV (should they make it) will potentially struggle. Toohas, how have your guys fared on bigger, faster grounds this year?



Fair point. Saturday will probably answer that question one way or the other. Carey, we were probably found a step slow against their leading forwards, they played that ground to perfection. It's a pretty unique ground, Carey, it's almost as wide as it is long and I think the dimensions contribute to their home ground advantage. We've also lost at Bulleen Temp (didn't see the game) and Rupertswood (in it all day, disappointed to lose).

kingbrown
10 Jul 2006, 18:11
Toohas, (17) gave some good run off the backline and 23's workrate is very good, i think he runs down the ground just to tire his opponent. It was really a good all round team effort.
The (7-1) third quarter quickly changed as we got closer. What was the last quarter, sometimes i think umpires (especially the older guy) umpire by the scoreboard. You definitely were the far better side on Saturday.

Ugly, Collo our captain is the most articulate and honourable person i have met. He in my opinion is the most corageous player in D1. If there was a vote at Rupertswood for the most admired player at Rupo he would win by a mile. The discipline issues have to be addressed as a whole group, including Collo however i am sure he is not leading the issue we had on the weekend. He was blamed by the umpire for an incident that was another player (trust me i know), I think Toohas has explained well the issues YV had earlier in the year and we have to meet them head on as well.

BlueBoys88
10 Jul 2006, 18:23
Yarra Valley play their swamp very well, and was interesting to see several YV players take the field saturday with flippers and a snorkel.

KB rupo are definently at a crossroad following the loss on the weekend, and seem to be missing the x factor they had in earlier games. Don't be writing off rupo yet chaps...as they did beat OC by 10 goals.

Toohas
10 Jul 2006, 18:27
Honestly don't know the count in the last quarter. From memory didn't seem like they paid too many either way. #17 Laing, is one of our most courageous players, former b&f, slips under the radar a bit, but he is just one of those reliable blokes who always seems to make the right decision and never shirks an issue. Perfect player to have in a back pocket.

#23 Yeo, can play pretty much anywhere due to, as you mentioned his workrate and a very big engine. He was usually found somewhere down the spine, but he's been a revealation on the wing, with his brother manning the wing on the other side. He'd be a pretty intimidating match up for most wingmen I reckon, bit like an Embley in that he can play as a tall or a small. I agree, it was a great team effort, but the pats on the back are done with and we need to beat Old Geelong, or we are back to where we were two weeks ago.

Is that so
10 Jul 2006, 18:28
Really good effort from Leo's on Saturday. I think the BT supporters will agree that we had as much of the play as them, and as many inside 50's. The only difference was that BT took their opportunities, and their key forwards stood up, and Leo's didn't.

Not so sure Ugly suggest that it was BT worst effort for the year?
Reading the best players the names of McKenzie , Baranello , Ballard all missing bad days or BT matched up well?

Moss Rocket
10 Jul 2006, 18:46
Wish i could head down to the TAB and put $100 on YV for the flag. After turning on the computer and finding out about Laing and his courage, Yoe with his intimidation and Embley like stature. Peake, Stoney, Keem, Lecordier and of course SAVAGE (trying to keep this one quiet!)
Trend and his poise, Britt, Hancock, Beal, Lear, etc who are guns in the wet! as well as Drews and Stevo...........they are a team full of champs!
Go YV:D

kingbrown
10 Jul 2006, 19:15
Rocket. Isn't D1 of a similar standard to AFL , or am i going to the wrong games. Loving the competition and the banter.

Toohas
10 Jul 2006, 19:18
Just trying to respond to someone else's comments/opinions with regards to most of those players...obviously it was a comment relative to the standard we're playing in.

Is that so
10 Jul 2006, 20:08
Some more stats for your viewing pleasure by club:
Old Carey:
No. of players who have played 8 games or more: 19
(5 played all games)
No. of players that have kicked 10 goals or more: 6
(totalling 105 goals)
No. of players named in the best at least 3 times: 8
(1 named 5 or more times)

Bulleen Temp:
No. of players who have played 8 games or more: 18
(8 played all games)
No. that have kicked 10+goals: 8
(totalling 128 goals)
No. players in best 3+times: 13
(7 named 5 or more times)

Old Geelong:
No. played 8+games: 16
(10 played all games)
No. kicked 10+ goals: 5
(totalling 83 goals)
No. named in best 3+ times: 11
(4 named 5 or more times)

Rupertswood:
No. played 8+ games : 17
(6 played all games)
No. kicked 10+ goals: 6
(totalling 97)
No. named in best 3+ times: 9
(4 named 5 or more times)

Yarra Valley:
No. played 8+ games: 16
(7 played all games)
No. kicked 10+ goals: 6
(totalling 99 goals)
No. named in best 3+ times: 8
(5 named 5 or more times)

Old Mentone:
No. played in 8+ games: 15
(8 played in all games)
No. kicked 10+ goals: 4
(totalling 86 goals)
No. named in best 3+ times: 12
(2 named 5 or more times)

Therry Penola:
No. played in 8+ games: 18
( 6 played in all games)
No. kicked 10+ goals: 4
( totalling 75 goals)
No. named inbest 3+ times: 12
( 2 named 5 or more times)

Banyule:
No. played in 8+ games: 17
( 7 played in all games)
No. kicked 10+ goals: 4
( totalling 59 goals)
No. named inbest 3+ times: 13
(5 named 5 or more times)

Emmaus St Leos.
No. played 8+ games: 15
( 7 played in all games)
No. kicked 10+ goals: 4
(totalling 63 goals)
No. named in best 3+ times: 9
( 7 named 5 or more times)

Prahran:
No. played 8+ games:19
( 15 played 10 or 11 games)
No. kicked 10+ goals: 4
(totalling 43 goals)
No. named in best 3+ times: 14
( 4 named 5 or more times)

I will leave it to others to analyis but I think there are some stories to be told and as they say - the numbers dont lie - or do they!.

Enjoy. :D :D

uglydermie
11 Jul 2006, 09:18
Is that so! What a great effort. Are there any other jobs going in the public service?

Archangel17
11 Jul 2006, 09:32
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IMO both OG and OC remain the best chances to progress to C grade...BT have beaten OC, OG YV and Rupo and with R Bain from Essendon and T Waters back from Port Melbourne, they can not be underestimated. Ugly/Bullant, my spies tell me neither Ryan or Matt Bain played v St Leos?? Just resting Ryan after his first game back at the large Como oval?? What about Matt - BOG v OG then missing?? Injured or playing VFL??

Is that So - great work re the player stats..to be on the net at 1:30am on any website other than www.bigjuggs.com (http://www.bigjuggs.com) suggests to all of us that you are clearly an ammo football nut, gay or the Qwill (or all three). Either way, I dips my lid to you my friend...

Archangel17 (best name on this thread imo) - they are some handy names returning at Prahran. Can you confirm that they are playing again?

And finally, to the Carey posters...any truth in the rumour that Carey have been playing their reserves team in the seniors all year and have 21 guns returning from injury, overseas, retirement, interstate, Guantanemo Bay and the International Space Station in the coming weeks....if we take this thread as gospel, it appears that there is a whole other side sitting mysteriously by the sideline ready to come back in the next few weeks....:)

Had a look at some teamlists online. i think the Prahran rumours are mostly ****.. but will eat my words if they turn up on Saturday. What i can say is that Stafford and Scicluna are playing, but they are not enough to save them. Looking at OC teamlists, noticed a few familiar names, who seem to have only recently appeared in reserves. T Collins, T Wood, T Bull, N Bull, Willingham, Williams, Faelis who have all been senior players when i saw OC play last year and this, apparently there is some kid called JC who is super quick and tearing up the reserves ,maybe ? J carpenter, initials would suggest this but with nicknames you never know.. maybe he walks on water.?maybe courtot ?,dont know him myself, . I know both Carpenter and Courtot were good against the bears, and were in best again this week. Can anyone tell me anything about JC? Who is he, how good is he, and will he play senior football in coming weeks??

Archangel17
11 Jul 2006, 09:41
And finally, to the Carey posters...any truth in the rumour that Carey have been playing their reserves team in the seniors all year and have 21 guns returning from injury, overseas, retirement, interstate, Guantanemo Bay and the International Space Station in the coming weeks....if we take this thread as gospel, it appears that there is a whole other side sitting mysteriously by the sideline ready to come back in the next few weeks....:)[/quote]

I have heard a rumour.. that ex Carey FF, son of the scribe and coach has been sighted around the club. Chris? Hickey i think his name is. He would be about 35, but was always super fit. I remember him kicking ten in a half against a certain side i used to run around with, and he was unbeatable that day. Can anyone from the new OC confirm or deny this??

Archangel17
11 Jul 2006, 09:53
Wish i could head down to the TAB and put $100 on YV for the flag. After turning on the computer and finding out about Laing and his courage, Yoe with his intimidation and Embley like stature. Peake, Stoney, Keem, Lecordier and of course SAVAGE (trying to keep this one quiet!)
Trend and his poise, Britt, Hancock, Beal, Lear, etc who are guns in the wet! as well as Drews and Stevo...........they are a team full of champs!
Go YV:D
I couldnt agree more. Is someone prepared to take this bet? I will get on. Yeo is very intimidating. very Embley like, and Savage, wow. I know why you are keeping this one quiet. He must be underrated. I know our coach never mentioned him as a threat, maybe as not to frighten us.

Though seriously i would like to see Yarra make the finals , they have fought hard against a lot of adversity over the years, and maybe deserve it, though i dont think they can win it. Matty Laing is a top bloke and top footballer, though thought he had retired this year???

Kibe
11 Jul 2006, 10:26
Not so sure Ugly suggest that it was BT worst effort for the year?
Reading the best players the names of McKenzie , Baranello , Ballard all missing bad days or BT matched up well?

All three played - but were only average. Some of the lesser lights stood up. We were really happy with our work around the ground - but a lot needs to be done with forward setup and goalkicking during the week. The commitment was there, the finish wasn't. Make no mistake - however - BT were too good. Just saying our effort was OK.

Moss Rocket
11 Jul 2006, 11:07
I have heard a rumour.. that ex Carey FF, son of the scribe and coach has been sighted around the club. Chris? Hickey i think his name is. He would be about 35, but was always super fit. I remember him kicking ten in a half against a certain side i used to run around with, and he was unbeatable that day. Can anyone from the new OC confirm or deny this??[/quote]

Chris "Hedgie" Hickey will not be making a comeback. Great bloke, great player, but well and truly has hung up the boots. I saw him the week before last at the OCarey vs YValley game at Bulleen. Just supporting. Always goes to a handful of games a year as he has young kids.

Midas
11 Jul 2006, 11:41
Looks like the OG's confirmed their status in the top line of betting along with OC, BT, with a regualtion comfortable victory over Banyule at Banyule - a very good effort I'd think. Puts Banyule in the mix now for relegation, although a 2 game break is a long way to bridge for the Animals and the Two Blues. Makes for some big eight point games in the coming weeks.

Speaking of which, had heard there were some issues with regard to umpiring at the Prahran/Carey game, with a couple of OC boys red carded and reported early doors, however their names didn't appear on the tribunal listing. Questions for any of the OC boys, I assume that explains the Two Blues close proximity at half time or have they improved. You dominated the second half as you would expect against the bottom side. Also the mail was that Beven might be back for Prahran in the last six or seven games. That might add some spice to the relegation battle given Banyule's loss again on the weekend. Any whispers from Saturday.

Good mail on the Yarra win from all you posters, they're looking ok at the minute although wouldn't get too carried away about a win over the perhaps flailing Rupo. A struggling victory over Banyule and three losses in the last four games is hardly the mark of a side on the up. Will be interesting to see how Rupo responds in the next few weeks, danger game against the Two Blues this week, while the boys from Domeney may be on the march. Note this poster was one of the few that gave them some chance at the beginning of the year, and I do enjoy being right!!!

OM's & Therry, looks like Therry wasted some opportunities given the scoring shot count, but it was tailor made for a OM's victory being at Keysie, with Therry missing its key onballers and Corey Bannister. Probably has ensured D1 footy for the boys next year which is great and now they can set their sights on a spot in the finals perhaps. Therry's percentage is handy, but where will their wins come from. They've won four and with seven sides to play, they have only beaten two of them, Banyule & Leos, so losing one or both of those will have them in the mire.

As for BT, very solid win, really look like they're setting themselves for a big second half of the year. With Easton at the helm who has been in charge of some successful sides in the past, they really are starting to look ominous. As for the Animals, the scent of relegation avoidance would definitely be in its nostrils and look for them to cause some damage in the coming weeks.

Keep up the good work lads.

Cheers

Conduct Unbecoming
11 Jul 2006, 12:51
Wish i could head down to the TAB and put $100 on YV for the flag. After turning on the computer and finding out about Laing and his courage, Yoe with his intimidation and Embley like stature. Peake, Stoney, Keem, Lecordier and of course SAVAGE (trying to keep this one quiet!)
Trend and his poise, Britt, Hancock, Beal, Lear, etc who are guns in the wet! as well as Drews and Stevo...........they are a team full of champs!
Go YV:D

You would have to admit there are some handy names in there Moss Rocket...

It appears that YV, Carey and to a lesser extent BT are looking towards the return of key players in the 2nd half of the season. If all 3 sides deliver what they are promisisng (in terms of the inclusions hinted at in previous posts), it may be that this could edge each in front of Old Geelong come September??

For YV to be a genuine threat (this year and beyond), they probably need to look at redeveloping their ground. As good as they have been recently, finals are not played and won on the type of ground they are tailoring their game to.

DG-Man
11 Jul 2006, 13:27
Nice postings gents. Very nice indeed.
You were being a bit harsh on Toohas weren't you Rocket?? He was just giving names to the numbers that he received enquiries on!

I think this weeks match OGS vs YV may be a season defining moment. Are YV about to jump to the upper echelon with a massive away win against the OGS? Will the OGS slip 2 matches behind the OC and BT??

Big week!

Re all those impressive stats Mr So! I think the bests may be a little misleading, as often sides like to post best lists that are a little misleading, so as to avoid opposition teams targetting those players.

Cheers - DG

Dudley Hamstrung
11 Jul 2006, 14:02
Agree with you on that one DG, YV v OG will be a massive game. YV slapped the Oggery last time, but have done so to most teams on their ground. YV from Saturday were massive, never seen so many 6'5 100kg plus men in the one place ever. Toohas, is it a pre-requisite to play at YV that you need to be over a certain size? Huge. Their ground suits them to a T. They did appear to lack a little bit of depth, although there were a couple in the twos who wouldn't look out of place in the ones. As for us down at the Rupi, the 6-0 start to the year was fantastic, probably flattered us a little bit but couldn't have dreamed of anything better having come up from D2 last year, been brought back down to earth now and realise that D grade footy is tough, good quality where any game can go either way. (e.g: BT 8 goals down v YV, actually, BT down against anyone!) Having said that, 7 games to go we are in a great position to have a real crack at finals, which for a promoted side is a mighty effort in anyones book.
KingBrown as a fellow Rupi, what do we need to get the form back? Who can come back and give us a needed lift? Injuries do hurt but we have excellent depth, both in the 2's and 19s.
Looking forward to another super week of footy ;)

Bede me up
11 Jul 2006, 17:29
Agree with you on that one DG, YV v OG will be a massive game. YV slapped the Oggery last time, but have done so to most teams on their ground. YV from Saturday were massive, never seen so many 6'5 100kg plus men in the one place ever. Toohas, is it a pre-requisite to play at YV that you need to be over a certain size? Huge. Their ground suits them to a T. They did appear to lack a little bit of depth, although there were a couple in the twos who wouldn't look out of place in the ones. As for us down at the Rupi, the 6-0 start to the year was fantastic, probably flattered us a little bit but couldn't have dreamed of anything better having come up from D2 last year, been brought back down to earth now and realise that D grade footy is tough, good quality where any game can go either way. (e.g: BT 8 goals down v YV, actually, BT down against anyone!) Having said that, 7 games to go we are in a great position to have a real crack at finals, which for a promoted side is a mighty effort in anyones book.
KingBrown as a fellow Rupi, what do we need to get the form back? Who can come back and give us a needed lift? Injuries do hurt but we have excellent depth, both in the 2's and 19s.
Looking forward to another super week of footy ;)

A well measured assessment of performance thus far. Others should take note i.e - Sandra.

Oggery to avenge against the Valley this week. Many 100kg + blokes on the wide expanses of Como - no thanks.

I Love Sandra Sully
11 Jul 2006, 17:37
Boys... I did a Triathon on the weekend......massive ride out to Yarra Valley....ran a half marathon down to the actual oval from our dodgy change rooms that were made for under 8's... then did a 1500m swim in the puddle which was located in the middle of the cricket pitch which was made of loverly carpet burning material. I actually had to throw a life saving poiency ring to 2 of the littler blokes who could stand up in the deep water.
We weren't as bad as the score board suggests, going into the last quarter we were only 3 1/2 goals down... couple of desisions went there way, and a few lucky bouncers and deflections and all of a sudden we are 7 goals down..... can assure you we will get back on the winners list this week against the two blues.... and i have confidence in OG's to beat YV (Og's a class above YV) to regain our 2 game buffer in the 4.
Phar lap.... What has happened to the red headed Ape men down at Oak Park??? They are better than this!!! something must be wrong.

I Love Sandra Sully
11 Jul 2006, 17:54
Please Note: ILSS understands he made a couple of spelling errors in the previous post... so all you sponge heads who are ready to pounce on me for this... don't bother.... save energy for your chess tournaments coming up on the weekend.

kingbrown
11 Jul 2006, 18:11
Dudley, we have a few players who were excellent at the start of the year who are down on confidence. We need to lift these blokes, back them and believe in them. We also have to realise why we are playing. We are firstly and foremostly playing to enjoy the game we love ,we must have fun. The few losses have really dented a few guys with the bigger bodies we come up against taking it,s toll. To sustain the fantastic performance over OC was unrealistic. At the time we probably peaked. We must strongly focus on no response to any umpiring we are seeing as unfair. We would all agree we have a very young list and should be building a foundation over 5-6 years and take everything as a bonus in 2006.

We do have depth in the reserves but not big man depth. The losses of Temming, Glenn and McGovern have not helped in our size department
Mitch Gaunt is ready to play seniors and should make a welcome return.

kingbrown
11 Jul 2006, 19:53
Toohas, i'm with you mate, when we started talking about your team it has become very apparent you have a talented list. I agree though a better ground would help. If we miss out i'll be barracking for YV.

ILSS another brilliant post. No doubt every contributor waits with bated breath on every word. I think those two blokes were still stuck in the mud on Sunday, got out drove home and arrived back in Sunbury early Monday morning. It's a long way to YV, similar to all the teams coming to Sunbury.

Is that So, you have become an inspired contributor

Ugly, your weather report was not as statistically brilliant as your Week 1 effort. Take a leaf out of Is That So.

Pharlap, wheres Ox?

Is that so
12 Jul 2006, 01:40
After me last post which included some stats on best players named and how frequently etc, there was some suggestion that perhaps some clubs do not name their best players in their best players so as to hide them from other clubs. (Conspircy theorists alive and well)

To further flesh this out here are the list of all players named at least 4 times by their club in the best players of the 11 rounds played.

Who should be on the list that is not , or who should not be on the list that is DON"T JUST READ PLEASE CONTRIBUTE!

OC:
Parker, Zander, Glynne,Carr (what of:Collins, Parton, Trumbull)

BT:
Stella, Hare, Chivers, Burridge, Barker, Bone, Wise,Tehan, Schneider, Pietryk (What of Waters, Matthews, Bain )

OG:
Casboult,O'Brien,Munro,Bayles,Vickers-Willis, Betts
(What of McCarthy, Mollard)

Rupo:
West,Sweeney,Monzell,Collins,Phillips

YV:
A. Drew, Savage, R. Drew, Yeo, Valoppi, LeCordier, Britt
(according to recent post 15 missing!)

OM:
Carrol, Palmer, Twentyman, Schloefell, Cleeve, Austin, Field.
(Flemming, Basile?)

TP:
J.Bannister, Foster-Knight, Kennessy ,Harmes, Crotty, c. bannister, Reynolds.
(and the 10 players that are out injured)

Bears:
Tsingaris, Shepherd-Muller, Gray, Gayfer, Taylor, Swift, Hopgood, O'Donnell (Smith, Shepard?)

ESL:
McKenzie, D'amico, Baranello, LeClerc, Prosser, Robin, Ballard, Krebs.

Prahran:
Northway, Hodgson, James, Thwaites, Pitts, Mattheson, Evans
(Radywonik ?)

Now its your turn, share your ins and outs, don't be shy:D :D :D .

Archangel17
12 Jul 2006, 09:39
After me last post which included some stats on best players named and how frequently etc, there was some suggestion that perhaps some clubs do not name their best players in their best players so as to hide them from other clubs. (Conspircy theorists alive and well)

To further flesh this out here are the list of all players named at least 4 times by their club in the best players of the 11 rounds played.

Who should be on the list that is not , or who should not be on the list that is DON"T JUST READ PLEASE CONTRIBUTE!
TOTALLY AGREE THAT SOME CLUBS OBVIOUSLY PLAY GAMES with best players.. good research.. added a few thoughts.

OC:
Parker, Zander, Glynne,Carr (what of:Collins, Parton, Trumbull)Howgate,Basell

BT:
Stella, Hare, Chivers, Burridge, Barker, Bone, Wise,Tehan, Schneider, Pietryk (What of Waters, Matthews, Bain )Florence

OG:
Casboult,O'Brien,Munro,Bayles,Vickers-Willis, Betts
(What of McCarthy, Mollard)

Rupo:
West,Sweeney,Monzell,Collins,Phillips

YV:
A. Drew, Savage, R. Drew, Yeo, Valoppi, LeCordier, Britt
(according to recent post 15 missing!)Davidson, Keem, Hancock

OM:
Carrol, Palmer, Twentyman, Schloefell, Cleeve, Austin, Field.
(Flemming, Basile?)

TP:
J.Bannister, Foster-Knight, Kennessy ,Harmes, Crotty, c. bannister, Reynolds.
(and the 10 players that are out injured)

Bears:
Tsingaris, Shepherd-Muller, Gray, Gayfer, Taylor, Swift, Hopgood, O'Donnell (Smith, Shepard?)Scicko- big one.. IMo best player

ESL:
McKenzie, D'amico, Baranello, LeClerc, Prosser, Robin, Ballard, Krebs.

Prahran:
Northway, Hodgson, James, Thwaites, Pitts, Mattheson, Evans
(Radywonik ?)

Now its your turn, share your ins and outs, don't be shy:D :D :D .

all of the players listed are good players, so dont think they are smokies.. however in a few clubs' cases there seems to be a a few keys being left out..probably deliberatly.. soem clubs seem worse than others. Yv, OC, Og, but all seem to do it to some extent.. i really dont know Rupo, so someone else may have to comment on them.

Archangel17
12 Jul 2006, 09:43
you have obviously not been playing AMMOS long ILSS.. whilst i agree the changerooms at YV are shoddy, i can think of almost a dozen more that take the cake.. The one that stands out is West Brunswick where you do run a marathon before the game, to get from the worst change rooms in the comp. But can think of many more.. Maybe this should be a thread.'The worst changerooms are"

I Love Sandra Sully
12 Jul 2006, 10:12
Obviously 7 years isn't long???

BlueBoys88
12 Jul 2006, 11:49
I would have to say Yarra Valley were very ordinary change rooms, but so far in D1 Therry Penola take the cake!!!

Pharan have been by far the best.

Archangel17
12 Jul 2006, 15:16
Obviously 7 years isn't long???long enough if you have ever played at West Brunswick . Yv is spacious with mahogany fittings in comparison. Havent been to Therry.

Conduct Unbecoming
12 Jul 2006, 15:43
After me last post which included some stats on best players named and how frequently etc, there was some suggestion that perhaps some clubs do not name their best players in their best players so as to hide them from other clubs. (Conspircy theorists alive and well)

To further flesh this out here are the list of all players named at least 4 times by their club in the best players of the 11 rounds played.

Who should be on the list that is not , or who should not be on the list that is DON"T JUST READ PLEASE CONTRIBUTE!

OC:
Parker, Zander, Glynne,Carr (what of:Collins, Parton, Trumbull)

BT:
Stella, Hare, Chivers, Burridge, Barker, Bone, Wise,Tehan, Schneider, Pietryk (What of Waters, Matthews, Bain )

OG:
Casboult,O'Brien,Munro,Bayles,Vickers-Willis, Betts
(What of McCarthy, Mollard)

Rupo:
West,Sweeney,Monzell,Collins,Phillips

YV:
A. Drew, Savage, R. Drew, Yeo, Valoppi, LeCordier, Britt
(according to recent post 15 missing!)

OM:
Carrol, Palmer, Twentyman, Schloefell, Cleeve, Austin, Field.
(Flemming, Basile?)

TP:
J.Bannister, Foster-Knight, Kennessy ,Harmes, Crotty, c. bannister, Reynolds.
(and the 10 players that are out injured)

Bears:
Tsingaris, Shepherd-Muller, Gray, Gayfer, Taylor, Swift, Hopgood, O'Donnell (Smith, Shepard?)

ESL:
McKenzie, D'amico, Baranello, LeClerc, Prosser, Robin, Ballard, Krebs.

Prahran:
Northway, Hodgson, James, Thwaites, Pitts, Mattheson, Evans
(Radywonik ?)

Now its your turn, share your ins and outs, don't be shy:D :D :D .


Is that So...in reference to your love for and ability to provide endless reams of D1 footy stats, I take back my "ammo footy nut, gay or The Qwill" call from before. But please, where do I get a job like yours? You know, the one where no-one is looking over my shoulder expecting me to produce work on a daily basis? Then again, it is uni mid-semester break..so maybe you have time :)

Some extraordinary work on your behalf in recent times. I know Toohas is the "thinking man's D1 thread contributor", but you are running a very close 2nd at present....maybe you are The Qwill after all???

I Love Sandra Sully
12 Jul 2006, 15:59
If Toohas is the thinking man's D1 contributor, then i must be the D1 Genius.

Conduct Unbecoming
12 Jul 2006, 17:28
Lock up your wives and daughters Yarra Valley, because here comes ILSS!!!!

So ILSS - how'd you go? Would suspect the Yarra girls may have been a bit harder to impress than those out Sunbury way.....just a hunch.

Actually, heard that one night a guy from Sunbury way (quite possibly ILSS) got into bed accompanied by a sheep. His girlfriend was not too happy..converstion went along the lines of..

ILSS (getting into bed): "This is the fat pig I have sex with when you have a headache"
Girlfriend: "I think you will find thats a sheep"
ILSS: "I think you will find I was talking to the sheep".

So Genuis, did you produce the goods in the valley or not?

Is that so
12 Jul 2006, 18:11
[quote=Conduct Unbecoming]


Is that So...in reference to your love for and ability to provide endless reams of D1 footy stats, I take back my "ammo footy nut, gay or The Qwill" call from before. But please, where do I get a job like yours? You know, the one where no-one is looking over my shoulder expecting me to produce work on a daily basis? Then again, it is uni mid-semester break..so maybe you have time :)

Some extraordinary work on your behalf in recent times. I know Toohas is the "thinking man's D1 thread contributor", but you are running a very close 2nd at present....maybe you are The Qwill after all???

Gents or Ladies recent feedback apprecaited, however if you where as astute as i you would not the times I post!
Very rarely in business hours usually late at night after I have worked my 10 hour day or got home from spying on training etc.

Is that so
12 Jul 2006, 18:13
Further reflection on your comments, how could I be the qwill, I actually do research, watch games and provide accurate information!

kingbrown
12 Jul 2006, 19:40
Another great round this week. Much will be answered
Animals vs Therry, seems Therry has lost every game they should have won. "Should" be 9/2. I'm with the animals at home this week, the Kibe was bouyant with last weeks efforts and the Therry boys don't seem to come up with the goods. Animals by 2pts another close one lost.
OC v OM. Om have threatened, they did not have a great game against us so if they truly want to be in finals action a win against a couple in the top 3 is a must. OC by 22pts
OG v YV. Should be the game of the round. YV are a great side, however i can't stop seeing OG as the side to beat. Don't ask me why. OG by 9pts.
Rupo v Prahran well this is a must win for both sides. Prahran beating Therry at Therry, competitive to half time against OC shows they are still very much a side to be concerned with. Rupo at home by 22pts.
BT v Banyule, one gets the feeling that BT will win alot of games comfortably in the second half. BT by 50pts. i thought Banyule would be far more competitive last week

Archangel17
12 Jul 2006, 19:40
Is the qwill from Gryphons??

kingbrown
12 Jul 2006, 19:55
Heres a bloke (with a can) still doing his tips, only 1 from the bottom, thanks to our resident genius (ILSS) still thinking he has an idea. KB you do need to have a good look at yourself!!
KB over and out.

Archangel17
13 Jul 2006, 08:39
Moss Rocket:Chris "Hedgie" Hickey will not be making a comeback. Great bloke, great player, but well and truly has hung up the boots. I saw him the week before last at the OCarey vs YValley game at Bulleen. Just supporting. Always goes to a handful of games a year as he has young kids.

That's a shame for you and a bonus for the rest of D1. He could really play football, and another hard body upfront for Old Carey with Parton would make life very difficult for the competition.

Conduct Unbecoming
13 Jul 2006, 09:13
Further reflection on your comments, how could I be the qwill, I actually do research, watch games and provide accurate information!

Yeah, you've definetley got me there!! No chance you could be the Qwill.

DG-Man
13 Jul 2006, 10:21
REVISED TIPPING LADDER

Tipping Ladder (A lot of 5's this week as all favourites won!)

MJS2 (5) 22

Ugly (5) 21

DG-Man (5) 20 (unlucky not to get 6 this week!)
Henry (4) 20
Is It So (5) 20
Hansie (5) 20

St.Kevs Cowboy (4) 19

Bullant (4) 18
Moss Rocket (5) 18
Bede me Up (5) 18

SSBob (3) 17
Toohas (4) 17
Midas (4) 17

Mystery Dog (3) 15

OC37 (2) 14
King Brown (4) 14
Half Back (4) 14
Blue Boys 88 (4) 14
Knackers (4) 14

ILSSully (3) 13

Mistake made with the Cowboy (who owned up to it)! Nice work!

DG Tips this week:

OC over OM's
Rupo over Prahran
BT over Banyule
(I think these are the easier ones!)

then,
OGS just over YV (massive season shaping game)
Leos just over Therry (toss of the coin, heads Leos......heads it is!)

OldMelburnian28
13 Jul 2006, 11:03
Boy has it been while since the OM man has posted. The reason, have been travelling round Australia surfing at some great locations with a bunch or knarly dudes. The OM man, although silenced on this forum, has been kept upto date with consistent updates about D grade.

I assume the DG man has deleted me from the tipping comp and im cool with that, but here are my tips anyway.

St Leos Emmaus over Therry. Has been great hearing about the demise of the Oak Park boys :) 21 points

Old Carey over the Old Mentonians by 39 points

Match of the round: Old Geelong vs Yarra Valley
- Yarra Valley need to win this to stay in touch with the top 4. However playing at como i don't give them a chance. OG's by 34points

Rupo over Pharan. Big game for both these clubs in relation to finals and relegation, however travelling to Sunbury the boys from toorak park will not come home happy. Rupo by 43points. This game must be used by rupertswood to get some form back.

Bulleen over Banyule by 64 points. Playing away to these guys will not be pleasant for any club for the rest of the year.

OM man out :)

I Love Sandra Sully
13 Jul 2006, 11:09
Here are my tips: Time to lift myself off the bottom!!

OC over OM 8 points

Rupo over Prahan by 28 points

BT over banyule by 15 points

OG's over YV by 102 points.... big ground will find them right out!

Therry over St Leos (you pricks down at Oak Park owe Sully one! I have tipped you for the last 3 weeks!!!)

Moss Rocket
13 Jul 2006, 11:10
Moss needs some upsets!

Therry away to win
YV away to win
OC
BT
and Rupo

Archangel17
13 Jul 2006, 11:40
i have only been on for a couple of weeks, but with my 4 last week have hope of relegating ILSS back to bottom

Therry
YV
OC
BT
Rupo

Half Back
13 Jul 2006, 12:00
Half Back's Tips

Therry (Could be a nil all draw)
OC
OG
Prahran
BT


OldMelburnian28, some great games over the years (Therry V Old Melbourians) Never seen a team more terrified and a bunch of blokes that hate each other more, than Old Melbourians. Does Micha Berry still play??? Could play a bit.:cool:

Is that so
13 Jul 2006, 14:01
My tips this round:
Going to move up the leader board or drop back further this week.

Therry to big and to many forward options for ESL
OC the list is improving but so is OM
YV over OG the 9 goals against BT @ BT earlier in the year showed they can play on a larger ground (at least for a qtr) and they must win to stay alive
Prahran to be overrun late in the day by rupo with the run, although if it is very wet could be another upset.
BT my only certainty against a side who try hard but lack depth and perhaps belief.

orange whip
13 Jul 2006, 14:54
G'day,
new to the Forum, been reading through so i thought i'd add my average knowledge which is worth about 5cents.

Some of you guys are pretty funny actually, if not a bit lonely perhaps.
The guy that knows stats about every team, best plyers etc..I think you need some good old fashion lovin.

This week I'll tip:

Therry, good team on their day
Banyule in an upset...why not?
Pran in an upset, tipping they're a better wet weather team according to Toohas
OC - too good at the moment
OG..nah YV...nah OG...tough one stuff it YV in another upset, they beat them last time i think.

orange whip
13 Jul 2006, 15:19
Archangel17...i think matt Laing is still rolling round in the twos at YV now and again, seen his name hear and there

silky_skills
13 Jul 2006, 15:28
Is the qwill from Gryphons??

Yes. Not sure why a Gryphons supporter is writing a D1 column when they are in D3. Has anyone spotted the Qwill at either games or training?

I Love Sandra Sully
13 Jul 2006, 15:48
I thought i saw the Qwill at Revolver nightclub early Sunday morning...... turned out to be a bar stool.

Big Man27
13 Jul 2006, 16:36
Hello all. very interesting competition d1. I use to be involved with North Boys but arn't involved with anyone anymore but i get to see a bit of this grade as a couple of clubs have ex NOBS players. I was out watching Valley being too good for Rupertswood and i found it disturbing. Can the rupertswood people on here give me a report on how Collins and Keenan are going? I couldnt belive my eyes when i saw collins being played forward on saturday. Why? and also what is going on with Keenan? I understand he is not as fit as he use to be when i saw him but is he on the outer with the club or what? How can he not be in the midfield after some of those players i saw last saturday? Cheers

St.Kev's Cowboy
13 Jul 2006, 17:13
Tips from under the Cowboy hat...
Old Carey to be un-challenged after qtr time for mine, too much talent and hardness for OMs. (Speaking of OM men, how were those waves dude? I was gonna surf but playing "college ball bent my knee back 90 degrees the wrong way, got into law school instead...")
Rupertswood to regain some form v Prahran. I have gone with them on occasions and been let down, but they have too much toe and back on their sizeable ground will have to much for the light blue/dark blues.
Bulleen Temp to continue a solid month-and-a-bitover Banyule by around the 8 goal mark.
OGS v YV big big game, for both sides, OGs could drop an extra game behind the top two, or put YV an extra game out of the four (provided my other tips are correct) A toughie, but the Oggery for me.
Therry I am praying over Leos. They deserve/need/require a win desperately to still shape the finals.
Anyone have any big ins/outs for this week? Good luck to all those taking the field this week. Cowboy - OUT :cool:

Bede me up
13 Jul 2006, 17:35
Looking to put back to back 5's together with the following :

OC easy
OGGERY, although forecast conditions may suit the large mountain men from the Valley. I'm sticking with the class factor though.
LEOS. The talk of Therry making finals is laughable, and will cease after Saturday
Softies from Sunbury to win over Prahran
BT to punish the bears

It's going to be nipply on the track tonight..........