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Magic Micky
1 Aug 2006, 16:27
No ILSS, you're just the dill!!
smudger57
1 Aug 2006, 16:39
Interesting perspective DG-Man...heres another one:
Noticed that P Robertson kicked 6 goals in the twos for BT on the weekend; that former senior captain S Driver has been flying under the radar in the twos in the last few weeks (not 'named' on Saturday's teamsheet?); and that somehow Chris Darby played v YV (again, not 'named' on last weekend's teamsheet - playing under another name? - remember you only have to be recorded with 1 game to qualify for finals!!) without so much as a mention anywhere...
Could it be that BT are quietly returning some physical strength and finals experience very quietly via the reserves?? Perhaps playing guys into fitness and form hoping no-one will notice (unless of course you kick 6 goals and actually get mentioned in the match report and named on the teamsheet ....oops, someone might get their butt kicked for that one!!).:cool: :cool:
Robbo has played about 4 ressies games this year and has performed exceptionally well, work being the reason why he hasn't been able to string games together. S Driver and Darby both played against YV in the ressies and were both among the best on the day, yet neither played against Prahran on the weekend. However, i doubt that any of these three players would be brought into the seniors for finals as they have probably played 10 2's games between them for the year.
Sorry CU, no 'butt kicking' happening down at BT.
Conduct Unbecoming
1 Aug 2006, 17:03
Robbo has played about 4 ressies games this year and has performed exceptionally well, work being the reason why he hasn't been able to string games together. S Driver and Darby both played against YV in the ressies and were both among the best on the day, yet neither played against Prahran on the weekend. However, i doubt that any of these three players would be brought into the seniors for finals as they have probably played 10 2's games between them for the year.
Sorry CU, no 'butt kicking' happening down at BT.
I would suspect Smudger, that it would be difficult to break into the BT side with only 4 games to go. However, Robertson is clearly in form (has already played seniors in 2006 - didn't he get suspended??), Driver is a former captain and state rep player, and Darby in ex A Grade player with that X factor and hardness you will need in finals . The question will be who will they displace (if anyone)? All things being equal, at least 2 of them would be in your best 22.
As I suggested in my previous post, I smelt a rat when I saw the names on the timesheet and I thought I could expose your little game. Finals are a different scenario - sometimes you need to think outside the square.
Conduct is making a statement and one way or another he will be proven to be either a) smarter than you think or b) quite stupid (and yes ILSS, I can already anticipate your reply). September will tell.:cool:
I Love Sandra Sully
1 Aug 2006, 17:18
So how bout those Penguins??
mysterydog
1 Aug 2006, 18:33
mystery dog was a very happy man in the rooms after the game on saturday and yes did meet a few of the boys and had a very entertaining chat with the om man.
Of coarse the ILSS was not to be seen which i very much expected and very much expected his still cocky attitude on this forum this week, but like i said they helped us take a step away from relegation which we appreciate rupo.
Speaking to a few of the boys after the game and they really believed that the ruckman they have really let them down in the game and just aint up to ones football.
Any comments ILSS?
Dog out
Is that so
1 Aug 2006, 18:37
I would suspect Smudger, that it would be difficult to break into the BT side with only 4 games to go. However, Robertson is clearly in form (has already played seniors in 2006 - didn't he get suspended??), Driver is a former captain and state rep player, and Darby in ex A Grade player with that X factor and hardness you will need in finals . The question will be who will they displace (if anyone)? All things being equal, at least 2 of them would be in your best 22.
As I suggested in my previous post, I smelt a rat when I saw the names on the timesheet and I thought I could expose your little game. Finals are a different scenario - sometimes you need to think outside the square.
Conduct is making a statement and one way or another he will be proven to be either a) smarter than you think or b) quite stupid (and yes ILSS, I can already anticipate your reply). September will tell.:cool:
Are you suggesting Conduct that good reserves form warrants senior selection?
There is a fair difference in my opinion between reserves and seniors and not to many teams woul dbe hiding players, what do you gain from it?
The poll on the VAFA website asks: Who will miss out on D1 finals this year?
It gives you the 3 obvious choices!
Good to see some D1 respect. :thumbsu:
untapped
1 Aug 2006, 23:39
Are you suggesting Conduct that good reserves form warrants senior selection?
There is a fair difference in my opinion between reserves and seniors and not to many teams woul dbe hiding players, what do you gain from it?
Well good form is good form. Confidence is a wonderful thing. But i do agree reserves is fair from a serior match conditions, as is under 19's to seriors. Both require a step up in skill, speed and physical presence. Only complete players can jump into seriors and hold their own. Otherwise weaknesses will be exposed. Just my opinion.
Ruben James
1 Aug 2006, 23:53
Carn The Rupi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:) ;) Yellow And Blue........ Oh We're From Rupertswood!!!!!!
Therry Lads.... Feel Free To Come In And Join In Our Song Tomorrow Arvo.... I Know It's Been A While Since You Gave Your Vocal Cords A Work Out.
So how did you go Sandra??? who sung what????
Around the Ground
2 Aug 2006, 00:04
Confidence is a wonderful thing.
reserves is far from a serior match conditions, as is under 19's to seriors.
Yer i'd agree there is a big jump in speed skill and physical pressure. I think however reserve player can make that jump one at a time. If a resevre team player any senior they would get shown up big time but 1 player coming up lifts to the standard around them, they won't dominate like they did in the 2's but they will still show the good touch if they are started on the ground and a shown to have confidence from the coaching staff.
Chip & Gravy
2 Aug 2006, 11:35
Gotta love the thread
First timer but go easy,
Question for DG?
You interest me.... You imply you are a D1 follower and yet were first-hand unaware of Reds relative dominance last year.....
I cant remember if you have confirmed a team following?
linger_isgod
2 Aug 2006, 11:37
Gotta love the thread
First timer but go easy,
Question for DG?
You interest me.... You imply you are a D1 follower and yet were first-hand unaware of Reds relative dominance last year.....
I cant remember if you have confirmed a team following?
He seems to have a soft spot for OG's.
[quote=Chip & Gravy][SIZE=1]Gotta love the thread
First timer but go easy,
Question for DG?
You interest me.... You imply you are a D1 follower and yet were first-hand unaware of Reds relative dominance last year.....
I cant remember if you have confirmed a team following?
Chips and Gravy....oh i could eat you right now!
You have to remember, 4 clubs playing D1 this year, did not play with Reds in D1 last year. That wonderful thing called promotion and relegation.
There's a clue!
Chip & Gravy
2 Aug 2006, 13:01
DG-Man, maybe you are just trying to put people off the scent of where your loyalties really lie?
I can also confirm I have SOLID evidence that an Umpire sits within this forum. I mean SOLID............... Or have people already worked that one out?:cool:
Half Back
2 Aug 2006, 13:28
ILSS,
$500 says you loose again!!! Did the coach teach you, how to get near the ball, ILSS?? Did you get the splinters out???
Cheers
OldMelburnian28
2 Aug 2006, 13:31
The OM man has just realised that he is in danger of tipping relegation...luckily ILSS can't buy a win or i'd be a little worried. The OM man is also aware of the importance of this weeks matches for every side. The OM man has just realised that he refers to himself in the 3rd person quite a bit. But anyway tips are as follows:
Emmaus v YV: Both have a lot to play for, YV need to stay in close contact with the top 4, if Emmaus win and banyule lose we have our 2 sides playing D2 next year. I'm going to pick Emmaus in a close one, although YV will put up a superb fight!!! 9 points.
OC v Rupo: Hard to not be bias toward to rupi, but with OC's form of late, and a home ground advantage we will need to see some early season form from rupo to stay in the hunt. Rupo by 13 points :)
Therry v OG: Watching therry last week i felt vindicated! The team i had rated so highly all year had turned it on and impressed everyone at the ground. But the ogger's have demolished the OM's and "are ready to puurrrrrrrrr". Hard to pick game of the round but i think this is it!!! Expect a very physical contest, and therry to win 2 on the trot. Therry by 5 points.
OM's v BT: Bad loss for the OM's against geelong, close win for BT against Prahran. Home ground advantage will close the margin, but BT will continue their unbeaten record away this year. BT by 34 points.
Prahran v Banyule: The boys from toorak park will bring home the bacon this week. Recent form suggests an inclusion of these mainstream players and will move off the bottom with the biggest win of the round. Prahran by 39 points
Is that so
2 Aug 2006, 13:45
DG-Man, maybe you are just trying to put people off the scent of where your loyalties really lie?
I can also confirm I have SOLID evidence that an Umpire sits within this forum. I mean SOLID............... Or have people already worked that one out?:cool:
An umpire! Chips n Gravy 2 days on and 2 intriguing questions/statements:
who is DG and Umpire is amongst us.
Where do you loyalties lie!
My loyalties are with the D1 forum and the tipping comp.
DG just loves his footy. I follow the great players and the great games. I have seen everyone other than Banyule this year.
I can tell you that i am not an umpire.
DG likes to keep his anonimity for legal and security reasons only.
All will be revealed at the D1 forum catch-up (Geeves is preparing cavier and prawns for our BT contributors, and humble pie for ILSS as we speak!)
I can also confirm I have SOLID evidence that an Umpire sits within this forum. I mean SOLID............... Or have people already worked that one out?:cool:
I have two names that I can think of at the moment...and DG Man is not one of them. Claiming to have no allegiance to any team in D1 and just being a supporter of the division might as well be followed with a whistle blowing in the background...
I have two names that I can think of at the moment...and DG Man is not one of them. Claiming to have no allegiance to any team in D1 and just being a follower of the division might as well be followed with a whistle blowing in the background...
Thanks for your support Toohas. Was starting to sweat a little. Imagine an umpire running (and tipping) in a comp. Match fixing allegations????
Remember, their is a date with Sandra Sully for the winner of this comp. Assuming ILSS can arrange one!
Is that so
2 Aug 2006, 15:00
Yer i'd agree there is a big jump in speed skill and physical pressure. I think however reserve player can make that jump one at a time. If a resevre team player any senior they would get shown up big time but 1 player coming up lifts to the standard around them, they won't dominate like they did in the 2's but they will still show the good touch if they are started on the ground and a shown to have confidence from the coaching staff.
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Interesting thoughts around the ground, agree that 1 or 2 coming up can adjust and contribute given time, probably more difficult for U19s IMO, not sure about the starting on the ground theory though (unless there are numerous exclusions from the ones due to injury).
Starting them on the ground would mean they leap frog the 3 or 4 on the bench in the seniors already, what would that do to their confidence?
Surely being selected shows confidence and not the starting position on the ground.
IMO players have to take advantage of whatever opportunity they are given regardless of where they start (on or off)
Next 4 weeks will determine a fair bit about depth IMO those teams that elevate 1 or 2 to have a look will be better prepared come finals than those who are guessing on the eve of a final due to a late out , injury etc.
Perhaps a review of teamsheets and last game played will be of interest in the next few weeks.
Chip & Gravy
2 Aug 2006, 16:09
An umpire! Chips n Gravy 2 days on and 2 intriguing questions/statements:
who is DG and Umpire is amongst us.
Where do you loyalties lie!
I'm also a D1 footy lover, with some friends in the outer circle at Old Mentone. As for the umpire my suspicions do not lie with DG-Man, he is trying too hard not to give away which club he supports, and reports to...
I have just had yet another look and it seems he is not participating in the footy tips so I will name him: BomberCam. I overheard the exact same comment he posted on the weekend by the umpire. And if you read his post on page 93 he gives info on who would be winning the B & F.....;)
Hope I'm free from the suspicion. Those that know me know that I am not exactly an umpire's best friend!!!! However I am a very keen support of D1 football.
As for whoever is the Qwill, your reveal will be met with a degree of ridicule I am certain given the lack of depth to the weekly contributions.
I will say my piece and that is if you are a regular poster, given you're paid to write articles on D1 footy less time on here and more time speaking to people in the know in D1 circles would assist in a better quality article.
The easiest thing to do would be to post the following link:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5564008&posted=1#post5564008
over the D1 double spread and everyone would be way more informed than the tripe that is rehashed from the far right column on a weekly basis and passed off as an article on D1 footy.
Then perhaps we could use whatever it is you are paid on a weekly basis to help lubricate one another's throats with caviar and bubbly, or perhaps just beer and hot dogs, when the season is over.
Thorpedo69
2 Aug 2006, 16:47
Nice work Midas. With the cash saved I'd go a few hotdogs over a teaspoon of fish eggs anyday though... Some Moet might be good to wash it down with though.
What a big weekend of D1 footy is coming up!
Is that so
2 Aug 2006, 17:00
I'm also a D1 footy lover, with some friends in the outer circle at Old Mentone. As for the umpire my suspicions do not lie with DG-Man, he is trying too hard not to give away which club he supports, and reports to...
I have just had yet another look and it seems he is not participating in the footy tips so I will name him: BomberCam. I overheard the exact same comment he posted on the weekend by the umpire. And if you read his post on page 93 he gives info on who would be winning the B & F.....;)
**Very astute reading like your style for now we will assume Bomber cam is an umpire-
Now where did YOU hear these exact same words from an umpire??
:D :D :rolleyes:
I Love Sandra Sully
2 Aug 2006, 17:08
ok ok.... you got me!! I'm an Umpire.
Note to Therry gits: I know one of you is number 4, and one of you is a sauce head.... not sure which ones which.... but the sauce head's Alias is still safe..... as half the Therry team are blood nuts.
And the Ruckman for the Rupy was ordinary this week..... ;)
Emmaus St Leo’s vs Yarra Valley: After building up their confidence with a number of great results over the past two months, ESL came into an Old Carey side that was red hot and hasn’t lost a game since round eight. Old Carey laid the smack down, in no uncertain terms. Yarra Valley put up a decent performance against Banyule, but they still have the job ahead of them to make the finals. St. Leo’s play their ground particularly well and they will have a tough week on the track in their attempt to spoil Yarra Valley’s finals chances. Yarra Valley have more to play for and will win.
Prahran vs Banyule: Big game, mainly for the implications that will be drawn from the result of this game. These two sides look to be moving in opposite directions. Prahran have obviously set a goal to avoid relegation and they have to win all their remaining games to do it. Banyule seem resigned to their fate, having not won a game since round six, interestingly the last time these teams met. This is also probably Banyule’s last hope to avoid relegation and they will come out hard, but I don’t think it will make a difference against this new and improved Two Blues unit. Prahran will win and win well.
Old Carey vs Rupertswood: Old Carey are in pretty ominous form, having won six straight and locking up the double chance in the process. They haven’t just been winning, they’ve been destroying teams. Something tells me those boys from Dunshea will have long memories about what happened last time they took on Rupertswood, too. Rupertswood are coming off a home loss against Therry and have been uninspiring for the past two months. I just don’t think they will have any answers for a pumped up Panther machine and Old Carey will win easily.
Therry Penola vs Old Geelong: Match of the Round. There are two schools of thought on this one. One school says that Therry won their grand final last week, virtually assured themselves of a spot in D1 next year and they will be jumped by Old Geelong. The other school thinks Geelong had a massive win last week against a side that is clearly struggling and this win isn't conclusive proof that Geelong are back just yet. The fact that Therry Penola are at home is a decided advantage. However, I think the former school of thought is the correct one. OG just had a tough few games and they have bounced back in a big way. And while Therry hung on last week, surely a zero goal second half is cause for concern. Old Geelong to win.
Old Mentonians vs Bulleen-Templestowe: No doubt Old Mentonians are looking to salvage some pride. In the middle stages of the year, they looked to be a smoky for a finals spot, but their two matches against top four sides recently have resulted in embarrassing losses to the OMs. Bulleen-Templestowe have come off a tough game against Prahran, which may not have been as flawless as some of their other performances, but it will benefit them in the long run. Bulleen-Temp, like Old Carey, will be looking to reverse the result from last time these teams met. Bulleen-Templestowe will have a percentage booster here, full side or not.
Hey DG what about some odds for who cracks the 100 page mark for the D1 forum?
ILSS, you wouldn't wear #33 by any chance?
Too Old Too Slow (TOTS)
2 Aug 2006, 18:30
[quote=Toohas]
Toohas,
Love your post, but what government department do you work for? The time on your hands is extraordinary.
kingbrown
2 Aug 2006, 19:16
Love the thread, great work everybody. Would like too see the Therry boys spruiking even more this week. Have really enjoyed your banter in spite of the rough start, when you absolutely expressed your hatred of Rupo, hope thats changed into a very healthy rivalry.
A great discussion on the difference between seniors, reserves and U19's. At Rupo we have had a few players come from U19 and play reserves, these players have not been our cream U19 players, just middle of the road. These players are consistently in our best when playing reserves. The cream players from our section 1 side play seniors and acquit themselves very well probably middle of the road in the best, but sometimes in the best. Our U19 sect 1 side have players of equal ability to our seniors, but lack bodies even more so than our seniors. I have yet to see a reserves player get promoted and dominate, they contribute but certainly fall short of dominating. We have had quite a few u19 promoted who come close to dominating just falling short.
Did that make any sense?
Toohas,
Love your post, but what government department do you work for? The time on your hands is extraordinary.
Thanks TOTS, I whipped that up in about ten minutes. It's not that hard to do, even if the Qwill makes it seem that way.
Too Old Too Slow (TOTS)
2 Aug 2006, 19:39
Thanks TOTS, I whipped that up in about ten minutes. It's not that hard to do, even if the Qwill makes it seem that way.
Fair call.
Gents,
DG is temporarily out of action o/s. Will be back at work and home next week. So the tipping ladder will not be up until around this time next week. Just having a small break, away from the game, in preparation for the finals. Looking forward to reading all the posts and scores when i am back.
Cheers,
DG
Dudley Hamstrung
2 Aug 2006, 20:57
Sandra I thought Rupos ruckman was very good on Saturday, probably brought us back into the game.
Big week this week, I am hoping Therry do us a favour by beating OG after we gave them a chop out from relegation territory last week. ;)
OM I don't think YV will get done this week, but gee it'd be good for the Rupi if they did. OC is going to be one tough clash but I still think we can get over the line. Especially if Clarke, Monzell and big Dutchy fire up and get it going in the middle.
Cheers all, best of luck to all those playing this week.
First time poster.... Have spent the last 2 hours reading the posts from the beginning of the season. What a time waster! A terrific thread I have to say. The stats show it is the best ammo thread going around - great job by you uglie dermie getting it off the ground. Some really insightful footy people going around -like your posts DG Man.
Anyway, keep up the good work and look forward to being involved.
BomberCam
2 Aug 2006, 22:37
I'm also a D1 footy lover, with some friends in the outer circle at Old Mentone. As for the umpire my suspicions do not lie with DG-Man, he is trying too hard not to give away which club he supports, and reports to...
I have just had yet another look and it seems he is not participating in the footy tips so I will name him: BomberCam. I overheard the exact same comment he posted on the weekend by the umpire.
Fancy a career in espionage?
I plead the 5th....but to avoid any controversy, have edited the original post, and reiterate that I do not have the inside running on any information whatsoever...
I also agree with some of the posters that this debate over the best player in the comp is not very helpful. From what I have seen, there are a lot of very good players in the comp, all for different reasons.
As a rupo supporter, I saw the youngest Bannister on the weekend (#5) for Therry. Probably the most dominant performance that I have seen this year from a player from the various games that i have watched. Standing behind the goals watching him was awesome - couldn't be stopped.
I am also a little worried about the feeling around this thread that rupo are quick and skillful, but lack a bit of toughness etc. Although rupo are small, they are, IMO, tough also. I know for a fact that several players (as happens in all clubs) have played with pretty significant injuries when they really should not have played (e.g., Monzell, West, Phillips, Webb). This is a culture thing, and has been there always. The captain Collins played the last 3/4 of last years grand final with a punctured lung and wound up in hospital.
Just my thoughts
Around the Ground
2 Aug 2006, 23:37
A great discussion on the difference between seniors, reserves and U19's. At Rupo we have had a few players come from U19 and play reserves, these players have not been our cream U19 players, just middle of the road. These players are consistently in our best when playing reserves. The cream players from our section 1 side play seniors and acquit themselves very well probably middle of the road in the best, but sometimes in the best. Our U19 sect 1 side have players of equal ability to our seniors, but lack bodies even more so than our seniors. I have yet to see a reserves player get promoted and dominate, they contribute but certainly fall short of dominating. We have had quite a few u19 promoted who come close to dominating just falling short.
Did that make any sense?
Good to hear from someone who has watched this discussion take place.
Just a question or 2 open to all but would like to know the king's call.
Does the game style of the seniors effect how well the 19's and res. players go well they get the call up?
By starting a lets say a 19 on the ground don't you think this helps the nerves but not having to come into a moving game but starting and adds belonging confidence issues?
Others on the bench would not be feeling down about not starting if they were told why the kid was on, he would be off after 10 anyway for some feedback from the coah if we are talking development of young players?
Just thoughts...
P.S. Agree the thread is a cracker
Very quietish week this week guys - a little disappointing really.
Agree with comments re Bannister, young jet who will poll well in the B&F.
Thought I'd ask hopefully a couple of thought provoking questions on each team, just to see if their or opposition supporters/players can give a little feedback with just four rounds to go and some critical games coming back on these observations.
Old Carey
Just how much has the impact of Parton, Collins, Howgate, No 4 (James?) and Zander in the OC's hardness around the pill contributed to its improved form?
Are they the real deal now, a relatively complete outfit.
What are their other options up forward, or are they a little two dimensional with White and Parton as avenues to goal.
BT
Very experienced, how will they manage availability of younger guns with established players. Will this impact on the unity they seem to portray.
Also, will some of their older players be exposed on the bigger grounds (eg HAre, Matthews, Tulloch?
Could they be over confident against an Old Carey unit that appears to have a different hardness about it given their recent record
Old Geelong
A very talented, deep outfit, but can they be exposed due to their predictable game plan of squirting the ball backwards before delivering long?
Also wonder whether their defence perhaps doesn't have the manpower to shut down good quality forwards.
However, is its forward line with multiple avenues to goal - among the best if not the most dangerous in the comp perhaps?
I'll finish this off, work calls, had me thinking way too much!!!!
Love your feedback
Thorpedo69
3 Aug 2006, 14:24
Midas,
Love your work. Good post again. I think your comments are spot on in a lot of ways. Although Old Geelong can be made to look ordinary if enough pressure is applied around the ball, I think it will be difficult to apply sufficient pressure on a ground as big as that at Box Hill. Their options up forward will also worry any side, especially on a big ground.
Old Carey would have to be the team to beat. Agree that they have probably been found out for lacking hardness around the ball in the past, but that seems to have been sorted out with the inclusion of Parton, Collins and co. Basell in the ruck has seemingly made a huge difference for them, and I think he might be a bit of a Clarke Keating come finals time.
I think BT might struggle come finals, although they'll probably do what they did in D2 and make me look like a goose! I just don't think they have the depth of talent that Old Carey and Old Geelong have. Their talented players are either very young or getting a bit long in the tooth. I predict that the younger players might struggle to get in to it once the added intensity of finals arrives, and I can't imagine that the older stars will find it easy to run out a game come finals. Box Hill is a big ground!
Just my thoughts. Like I said, I'll probably be shown to be completely mistaken come finals time!
silky_skills
3 Aug 2006, 14:39
....
BT
Very experienced, how will they manage availability of younger guns with established players. Will this impact on the unity they seem to portray.
Also, will some of their older players be exposed on the bigger grounds (eg HAre, Matthews, Tulloch?
Could they be over confident against an Old Carey unit that appears to have a different hardness about it given their recent record
...
Love your feedback
These players are injury free and very fit. The will no doubt be looking forward to the rest of the season. Unbeaten this year when travelling away is probably evidence that the team is adaptable to different grounds/conditions.
BT are looking forward to playing any team, including the OC. They are not getting ahead of themselves because the best part of the season is still to unfold.
The OC might have a 'different hardness' but don't forget that not so long ago most critics agreed BT were the 'hardest'.
Chip & Gravy
3 Aug 2006, 16:47
After watching Old Geelongs clinical display in the second half on the weekend, I would have to agree with Midas that they have many avenues to goal, and this is without playing the Hyphen out of the square. they will be a massive threat come finals, and will push for promotion
OC have played good footy all year apart from one or two hiccups. They are a very good side when they stick to there game plan, and will be hard to knock off. However they are 1 dimensional when going fwd so may get found out if they are to Parton focussed, and come finals time there will be a couple of players that can go with parton, so he'll be tightened up.
BT have come into there own, I haven't seen many of there games but have seen enough to suggest that they are playing more of a free flowing game than in the past, and with experience they will settle early in big matches.
:D
Also just quietly, I recall a post a while back from some Leos fans stating that they are the only team that can knock of BT! Leos are lucky if they stay in D1.
Archangel17
3 Aug 2006, 17:25
Very quietish week this week guys - a little disappointing really.
Agree with comments re Bannister, young jet who will poll well in the B&F.
Thought I'd ask hopefully a couple of thought provoking questions on each team, just to see if their or opposition supporters/players can give a little feedback with just four rounds to go and some critical games coming back on these observations.
Old Carey
Just how much has the impact of Parton, Collins, Howgate, No 4 (James?) and Zander in the OC's hardness around the pill contributed to its improved form?
Are they the real deal now, a relatively complete outfit.
What are their other options up forward, or are they a little two dimensional with White and Parton as avenues to goal.
BT
Very experienced, how will they manage availability of younger guns with established players. Will this impact on the unity they seem to portray.
Also, will some of their older players be exposed on the bigger grounds (eg HAre, Matthews, Tulloch?
Could they be over confident against an Old Carey unit that appears to have a different hardness about it given their recent record
Old Geelong
A very talented, deep outfit, but can they be exposed due to their predictable game plan of squirting the ball backwards before delivering long?
Also wonder whether their defence perhaps doesn't have the manpower to shut down good quality forwards.
However, is its forward line with multiple avenues to goal - among the best if not the most dangerous in the comp perhaps?
I'll finish this off, work calls, had me thinking way too much!!!!
Love your feedback
Saw OC for the first time in a while on the weekend, and there were no doubts about their hardness. Always thought Parton was hard, however that with a few exceptions(Battle,Kent) they lacked this around the park. The side i saw on the weekend was very different.Ratcliffe, Zander, Barton, Howgate, Parker were all physically intimidating, and that is with T Bull missing.
Their main avenue to goal was neither white nor Parton, rather T Angus who has been playing 2's recently , but played very well on the weekend. White, Parton, Collins,Watts, Maslin, were all very dangerous, and provided multiple options for goal.
I think OC are beatable, however sides will have to do far more than shut down Parton, White and Collins. I think a big unit like BT or Yarra could beat them, however think most others will struggle.
Unkles was dominant in the ruck and Basell who looks very awkward was very effective in his hitouts, very rarely losing a tap, and often creating center taps. I would think sides will need to rotate rucks directly against this combination. They will need a high leaping athletic ruckman to counter Unkles, and a phsical body ruckman to counter Basell. Not easy, but BT may have that combo.
untapped
3 Aug 2006, 17:25
Team selection night for most i would gather. Any interesting inclusions or exclusions for the teams this week? I'll check back after dark. Heard whispers that after the 19's and res. talk early in the week some teams are testing some players before finals come round?
After watching Old Geelongs clinical display in the second half on the weekend, I would have to agree with Midas that they have many avenues to goal, and this is without playing the Hyphen out of the square. they will be a massive threat come finals, and will push for promotion
OC have played good footy all year apart from one or two hiccups. They are a very good side when they stick to there game plan, and will be hard to knock off. However they are 1 dimensional when going fwd so may get found out if they are to Parton focussed, and come finals time there will be a couple of players that can go with parton, so he'll be tightened up.
BT have come into there own, I haven't seen many of there games but have seen enough to suggest that they are playing more of a free flowing game than in the past, and with experience they will settle early in big matches.
:D
Also just quietly, I recall a post a while back from some Leos fans stating that they are the only team that can knock of BT! Leos are lucky if they stay in D1.
Have been on this thread all year, and have been the only leos supporter chips and gravy. The only prediction - stuid as it was proven - is that we would beat OC. Nothing to do with BT.
Leo's won't be lucky to stay in D1, they will be in D1 next year - don't worry about that. While the year hasn't been what we would have hoped - we will avoid relegation. I would also add that there have been more dissapointing teams than us around.
kingbrown
3 Aug 2006, 20:04
As i head down to the Rupi for a few quiet ones, i'll put my tips in
Rumour has it Mischa Barton is heading down to the OC on Saturday. This will definitely favour the Rupi boys as there testosterone levels go through the roof. Rupi by 13pts
I'd love to tip Therry, however agree with Toohas, they did panic last week. Oh stuff it Therry by 6
I'd love to tip the animals, however a game after the OC is always hard to lift the following week, (just ask Rupo), oh stuff it the animals by 1/4 pt
Prahran have been very similar in their resurgence to the animals mid season improvement. Prahran by 22pts
BT v OM. BT too good, OM probably making sure good reserves player are finals eligible. Stuff it i'm that far behind i'll chase ILSS, OM by 3pts.
0/5 odds 2-1 1/5 odds evens 2/5 odds 3-1 3/5 odds 25-1 4/5 odds 330-1 5/5 odds 1000-1
Good luck on the weekend.
kingbrown
3 Aug 2006, 22:42
Around the ground: Rupo's Seniors reserves and Unders train together every night. The basic game plan is set through all sides, variations depend on structure and player changes. All coaches have a strong cohesive relationship and are all on the same wavelength. When appointing coaches this is an expectation. Under 19 players promoted almost always start on the ground and have plenty of game time, reserves players promoted do not seem to get that same treatment, they tend to struggle for game time and generally start on the bench. No player enjoys starting on the bench unfortunately it is the nature of our game. Our team is still learning that players are rotated on/off bench and generally do not like coming off.
The "King" i love it!!!
Half Back
4 Aug 2006, 00:02
Half Back's Tips
St Leos V YV Leos by 36 points
OC V Rupo OC by 60+
Therry V OG Therry by 36points
Om's V BT BT by 60+
Prahran V Banyule Prahran by 10 points.
Cheers Half BACK
knackers29
4 Aug 2006, 10:04
G'day all!!
Tips for this week:
St Leos 24 points
OC 28 points
Therry by 30 points
BT easily
Prahran 30 points.
Good Luck to all on the weekend...get a kick!!
Cheers
I Love Sandra Sully
4 Aug 2006, 11:23
Leos by 20points
Rupo by 50+ (again)
Therry 1 point
OM by 10 points
Banyule by 10 points
Leos by 20points
Rupo by 50+ (again)
Therry 1 point
OM by 10 points
Banyule by 10 points
Very interesting Sandra - I look forward to seeing you out on the paddock tomorrow....
Oggers over Therry just
Prahran to beat Banyule
BT will take care of OM's
Yarra over Leos in a tight tussle
We'll get over Rupo at home
Bede me up
4 Aug 2006, 15:21
Tips :
OC
Prahran
BT
YV
OGS
Tips :
OC
Prahran
BT
YV
OGS
bullant10
4 Aug 2006, 17:31
My tips
BT
OG
Prahran
YV
Carey
oldtimer
4 Aug 2006, 20:03
My tips
BT
OG
Prahran
YV
Carey
Gentlemen, info re finals.
second semi at Junction
first semi at St Bernards
prelim and grand at Preston
Look up d1 fixtures on website
uglydermie
5 Aug 2006, 12:39
bt
carey
yarra
ogs
prahran
ugly out- been in shanghai.
Love your wok!!
What about Old parade heading for D grade, how the might have fallen.
Boundy to leave finally to chase coin at Bundoora
kingbrown
5 Aug 2006, 19:37
Didn't see Mischa Barton today, however the boys had a real crack. I think we earnt respect today, both sides would have come off very sore knowing they have played a game of football. Carey definitely has class all over, we were competitive all the way in spite on the scoreboard a 5 goal to nil 3rd quarter.
Votes
3: S Collins (OC) has a bit of freak about this boy
2: D. Collins (R) possibly the best first quarter played in the history of D1 2006
1: (17) OC not sure who he is , but up the forward line is as dangerous as our boys would have been if Mischa turned up.
All results went against us this week, if we can come up with an injury free 3 weeks we might shock a few, however this never seems to be the case.
Those who would like to know i thought Dolly was pretty good, he has a knack of doing some real critical efforts, a great leader who would be welcome at Rupo anytime.
kingbrown
5 Aug 2006, 19:44
Coin has been a word used regularly on this thread, a couple of Carey boys chased coin playing cricket in the UK. If they had girlfriends or wives who could work at the canteen they possibly might not have needed to go overseas. It seems it pays well!!!!
Yarra switched off for a quarter against a very tough and committed St. Leo's and it nearly cost us dearly. A huge effort in the final quarter just got us over the line. Ash Drew was best on for Yarra and I think Krebs was St. Leo's best. LeClerc is a big target for the Animals up forward and I think he'll cause a few headches for opposition teams in the run home.
linger_isgod
6 Aug 2006, 15:18
Coin has been a word used regularly on this thread, a couple of Carey boys chased coin playing cricket in the UK. If they had girlfriends or wives who could work at the canteen they possibly might not have needed to go overseas. It seems it pays well!!!!
No-one comes back from the UK with more coin than what they arrived with.
bullant10
6 Aug 2006, 16:02
Big upset out at mentone yesterday. The OMs played really well. They match up against BT better than any other side.
Costello was the matchwinner, no doubt about it, BT had there chances and another five minutes would have won it,but all credit to OMs.
It might not be a bad thing for BT- it was the lose they may have needed to get them back on track. 8 wins in a row now they can start again. the big fella for OMs played a great game also, Flaxias or something like that,
Brings the boys back to earth.
Thorpedo69
6 Aug 2006, 21:48
Hey Bullant10,
Did Mentone have any of the blokes they occasionally get from Sandringham?
Thorpedo69
6 Aug 2006, 21:50
Hey Toohas,
Who else was good for Yarra and Leos respectively? Ballard or Buckle good for Leos? Must have been a nail-biter.
Ballard was good, he went down with an injury to his leg in the third quarter though. Buckle was ok, he started on a half back flank. They kicked six goals to nothing in the third quarter and he had two of them (I think) and plenty of clearances while playing on the ball. I thought Baranello (#1) had a pretty good battle with Robbie Drew and LeClerc is just a massive unit who can take a grab for them up forward. McCann (#12?) was good too. It would have been a great game for the spectators, good hard contest, between two teams who had a lot to play for.
Archangel17
7 Aug 2006, 00:09
Didnt get to any games on the weekend as i have a nasty dose of the flu, but have received a few emails. Rumours aplenty that there are injury worries at each of the top three sides. Apparently OC finished their game with only 15 fit men and players in hospital, and OGs suffered badly too. Any truth to this? Who was injured and how badly?
can't mark can't kick
7 Aug 2006, 02:01
when are you gonna finish off your review Midas?
Conduct Unbecoming
7 Aug 2006, 10:04
Big upset out at mentone yesterday. The OMs played really well. They match up against BT better than any other side.
Costello was the matchwinner, no doubt about it, BT had there chances and another five minutes would have won it,but all credit to OMs.
It might not be a bad thing for BT- it was the lose they may have needed to get them back on track. 8 wins in a row now they can start again. the big fella for OMs played a great game also, Flaxias or something like that,
Brings the boys back to earth.
Previous post (Archangel17) suggests there were some injuries to top 3 sides - Any injuries to come out of the OM game Bullant?
Don't think it was as big an upset as you may have thought..BT has an amazing ability to get itself up for the big games (see dominant displays against OC, OG & YV) but struggles against lower sides (see struggling wins against Banyaule, St Leos, Prahran and the 2 x OM losses).
So many experienced heads, I get the impression they do what they have to do - nothing more and nothing less - against lower sides and switch on for Friday night football (ie the big games).
Conduct Unbecoming
7 Aug 2006, 10:34
[quote=Is that so] Interesting thoughts around the ground, agree that 1 or 2 coming up can adjust and contribute given time, probably more difficult for U19s IMO, not sure about the starting on the ground theory though (unless there are numerous exclusions from the ones due to injury).
Next 4 weeks will determine a fair bit about depth IMO those teams that elevate 1 or 2 to have a look will be better prepared come finals than those who are guessing on the eve of a final due to a late out , injury etc.quote]
Agree with everyone that there is a large jump between reserves and seniors. Agree with everyone that you may not want to make too many changes to a settled senior side too close to finals...
However, it is a slightly different scenario bringing in one or two proven senior players for finals (providing they get some good games under their belts) than trying out a couple of under 19 kids at this time...that you just would not do.
I know I am biased coz I know him, but seriously BT people, make sure tattoo boy gets some game time in the twos and bring him straight into the 1s for finals. Word.
Mentone had a couple back from Sandringham the ruckman and Bassile up forward who both played good games. No injuries from the bullant side, just a wake up call and i think this loss may do us some good! Still 3 or 4 short of our finals side which should return over next couple of weeks. Well done to Mentone, they seem to get themselves up against us.
silky_skills
7 Aug 2006, 12:28
Conduct Unbecoming,
With the BT seniors loss on the weekend, do you think Easto might make a few changes for this week? Possibly calling on a few of the veterans currently running around in the reserves?
No there will be no significant changes only a couple of younger players who have been playing all year may come back, i cant see any older players coming into the team. However you never no. The bullants will bounce back this week against therry.:thumbsu:
Conduct Unbecoming
7 Aug 2006, 12:56
Conduct Unbecoming,
With the BT seniors loss on the weekend, do you think Easto might make a few changes for this week? Possibly calling on a few of the veterans currently running around in the reserves?
Hey Silky - I am not in the 'know' down at the Bullants, so I really would not have much of an idea. Its a bit hard to say, not sure how the twos went. MJS2 probably hit it on the head as he would know form/injuries etc.
Archangel17
7 Aug 2006, 21:32
Ok no info coming through. I will be more specific. I have no doubt that several of the emails i got were S&*(e however they stated exactly
OG VW playing but no good physically( no specifics here) and that 2-3 others picked up injuries on the weekend.
OC lost as many as 6 key players, =no bench after half time, and only had 16 for most of the last quarter , and that 2-3 players including Parton(hand) were in hospital.
BT Chivers is carrying a groin injury and if finals werent beckoning would be sitting out the season, and that Williams did something to his knee( not serious but restrictive)
I repeat that i didnt get to any games as i was sick and these are all second or third hand, but surely someone can help me sort the wheat from the chaff
kingbrown
7 Aug 2006, 22:31
Seen Parton run off very quickly after the game, thought he must have had to go to a wedding. Carey i think had 16 fit players left but i'm pretty sure played with 18 till the end. No. 1 Angus i'm sure was off for a fair wack.
Is that so
7 Aug 2006, 23:26
Seen Parton run off very quickly after the game, thought he must have had to go to a wedding. Carey i think had 16 fit players left but i'm pretty sure played with 18 till the end. No. 1 Angus i'm sure was off for a fair wack.
Both rupo and carey finished with full sides on the ground, both hard at it most of day. Rupo exposed Carey with run and endeavour early, heard rupo where clearly better early in qtrs,eventually the gang tackling and Parton and co running in from CHF and cleaning up anyone they could make contact with took its toll on the younger rupo side.
Lot of respect for rupo side wasd earnt i hear, Carey physically very big units but could be expossed for fitness or leg speed if matched physically is my mail - thoughts?
Chip & Gravy
8 Aug 2006, 12:52
Both rupo and carey finished with full sides on the ground, both hard at it most of day. Rupo exposed Carey with run and endeavour early, heard rupo where clearly better early in qtrs,eventually the gang tackling and Parton and co running in from CHF and cleaning up anyone they could make contact with took its toll on the younger rupo side.
Lot of respect for rupo side wasd earnt i hear, Carey physically very big units but could be expossed for fitness or leg speed if matched physically is my mail - thoughts?
Sound like Rupo put in a good display away from home. If they can maintain there same playing group then they can only improve as they mature. Unfortunately for them it probably means that they are just off the pace this year.
Is That So, I think your summation of OC is pretty much spot on. they are a very good side, and will be hard to beat. They follow a solid game plan, and when they are off the boil they're good players keep them in the game with goals and glimpses of brilliance, until the rest of the team takes up the slack. However there are some other big teams in the hunt, and there are some fit teams getting around. It will be interesting to see how OC go on the wide expanses on Como Park this weekend, especially with OGs starting to put it together by the looks of it.
OM's have proven that they are a better side than they have shown this year and lets hope thay finish the season off strongly.
I think the Thread could be a bit quiet this week with BT, Rupo and Therry going down. Worth it though!;)
Would like to see a review of the odds for the flag:thumbsu:
Looks like we need DG Man back, the thread has been battling in his abscence!
And where is ILSS? And the other Rupo lads?
I Love Sandra Sully
8 Aug 2006, 13:50
I'm lurking in the shadows...... waiting for the dust to settle from the weekend. also got a dentist appointment this afternoon.... so a little bit on edge, and can't concentrate on delivering quick witty responses.
Archangel17
8 Aug 2006, 16:02
And where is ILSS? And the other Rupo lads?
What about some game reports Hansie, ILSS, Ugly,CMCK,etc
Everyone is very quiet, though thanks Toohas and Is That So.
Is everyone keeping quiet leading into finals or crucial relegation battles??
C'MON to quote a certain tennis player.
uglydermie
8 Aug 2006, 16:27
I would imagine that BT would be not overly worried about the loss last weekend. I actually watched the game and thought that OM where a pretty fair team whilst BT (did not deserve to win) probably should have ended up winning by 2-3 goals had they kicked straight at the end. OM have some great on ballers and forwards and have been a real dissapointment this year.
BT have a handful of regulars to come back in over next week or so and willbe fairly keen this weekend against Therry to solidify a top 2 stop.
Re injuries - Williams and Chivers are a bit saw at the moment BUT tell me a key forward that has played every game that isn't.
The next 5 weeks should be great - all signs pointing towards a BT v OC 2004 rematch which would be great for the Bulleen area. Both good progressive clubs that I am sure will be able to cope and succeed in C grade next year - BUt I am sure OG, Rupo and YV may have something to say about that.
I hear Parton busted his hand.. Any trust?
Cheers
Ugly
Chip & Gravy
8 Aug 2006, 16:39
Well if a few people are a bit sore after the weekends results, or don't want to give too much away regarding injuries etc, then maybe we should look fwd to the round ahead that on paper looks like a cracker, with no clear easy winners. The second half of the season has turned into a very even comp, which is attributed to some very good teams and good clubs in this years D1.
Match of the round and possibly year to date OC Vs Ogs at Como, also 2 blues, Leos, and Therry have oppurtunties to take some scalps. How do we see it panning out? Will some of the bigger clubs cope with the pressure, what will be the make up of the top 4 at the rounds end?:confused:
Conduct Unbecoming
8 Aug 2006, 17:37
Well if a few people are a bit sore after the weekends results, or don't want to give too much away regarding injuries etc, then maybe we should look fwd to the round ahead that on paper looks like a cracker, with no clear easy winners. The second half of the season has turned into a very even comp, which is attributed to some very good teams and good clubs in this years D1.
Match of the round and possibly year to date OC Vs Ogs at Como, also 2 blues, Leos, and Therry have oppurtunties to take some scalps. How do we see it panning out? Will some of the bigger clubs cope with the pressure, what will be the make up of the top 4 at the rounds end?:confused:
Agreed - think the Cats will suprise a few.
Archangel17
8 Aug 2006, 17:38
Well in the absence of DG- Man thought i would have a go at this
from the top
OC - Equal billing with BT, but rumours abound about injuries. Are they true, smokescreens, a bit of both? regardless with Top 3 settled, expect them to rest a few in the next two rounds, and have a look at a few of a very strong 2s side. Seem to have have quietly unearthed the most potent ruck combination in the league.
BT- Until last week would have had exactly the same comment beside BT, now i expect them to go full strength this week to guarantee double chance( which should happen anyway) then maybe hold a few cards against Old Carey. How sore are Chivers and Williams? Will Bains and waters be released for finals? only time will tell.
OGS- Hitting red hot form, but still some fitness doubts beside a few key players. Makin back toughens them up a little. Look for them to attempt to blast OC off the park this week .V-W may be the key
YV - just edged their way into 4th and will be striving to hang onto it. Will be favorites to beat Prahran at Domeney, but only just. Hancock has made a huge difference in second part of the year.
Rupo- Gallant in defeat last week, and with guns returning, but a super tough draw. Can they sneak back into the four at OGS or YV expense? Do not write off yet.
OM- Super hard team to read. They appear to be either brilliant or awful, with guns like Basille and Tewntyman able to turn a game.
Therry- Finishing strongly after a lot of injury problems. Have skill and class, and can match top sides with physicality
Leos- Like OM , have shown glimpses of brilliance,punctuated by indefferent form. are not yet out of the relegation battle with Prahran building. will have to hope Ballard injury is not serious.Rd 17 is a key
Prahran- Here come the two blues. Bevan back, Scicluna back. Playing with passion. Is it too little too late? Maybe the rd 17 battle with Leos will decide both clubs' fate.Maybe they should fly McCudden back from whatever beach he is sunning on.
Banyule- A miserable season appears over, with a double drop looming, however there is a lot of talent and pride at the Bears, so excpect them to fight hard. If they do drop, with plenty of young talent, they will bounce back.
ODDS
Flag
OC Bt 3/1
OG 5/1
Rupo YV 15/1
OM 150-1
relegation
Therry 25-1
ESL 10/1
Prahran 7-1
Banyule 2-1
BT will drop games to Rupo and OC, with OG coming home with a wet sail and superior percentage giving them the double chance. Rupo will confound critics and surge into finals where their young legs will give them some hope of an upset. Prahran will provide one of the seasons' biggest comebacks by passing ESL in the last round. The finish of the season has provided the closeness in competition that injuries denied early.
Season Tips
Top Four
OC
OG
BT
Rupo
Relegated
BY
ESL
In finals OG to beat OC by 30pts at spacious Junction, Rupo to jump BT, but be overcome by 11. BT to beat OC by 17 pts in prelim, and OGs to win the big one by 15.
FLAG OG - fast legs and finals experience to see them surge over the injury affected OC and the older slower BT
Runner up BT
B&F S Collins OC
Goalkicking Parton OC
Player of the finals Casboult OG
This Week
OG V OC at COMO- tip OG by 45pts. If rumours are true OC will field a weakened line-up this week, and have a poor record at Como. Ogs have both finals and top two to play for, whereas OC are safe in top two
YV v PR at Domeney- tip Prahran by 17pts- At home Yarra should be favorites, with finals to play for, however Prahran's form is possibly the second or third best in the comp, and they have the great man Bevan back.
BY v OM at Brockwell- tip BY by 3pts- expect BY to have one more big dip at avoiding the R word. . OM have heaps of talent, however have disappointed when favored and hate travel.
Rupo v ESL at Sunbury- tip Rupo by 72 pts- too much pace, too much skill. A very good young side who can still make finals, with the game at Sunbury
BT v TP-at Ted Ajani- tip BT by 13 pts- Therry have been good, however Bulleen have too much to play for with double chance not yet secure and Rupo and OC to come. Look for Therry to again jump out early, with BT reeling them in
bullant10
8 Aug 2006, 17:55
Massive post angel - DG would be proud.
On upcoming rounds, Therry would be confident of an upset but i can tell you that BT will bounce back and bounce back hard to secure that double chance.
Interesting to see a few writing them off after a 3 point loss at Mentone, it is hard to win out there, ad missing a few easy shots late cost them, another five minutes and the result would have been reversed. Only away loss for the year is not a bad effort.
Talk about injuries, is just everyone going fishing for some nibbles?
Williams has been sore for three years but nothing more than usual, Chivers is a little tight in the hammy but no more than any other player out there. There cannot be any player playing at this time of the year who doesn't have some sort of niggle or going out to play at 100%. Just sore bodies after a long year, players will use the last couple of rounds to freshen up i am sure so expect a couple of upsets.
The top four will stay as is, some of the boys down at rupo are already talkin about winning D1 next year so they seem to have given up.
BT will beat OC in the second semi, OG will beat YV in 1st semi, OC will beat OG in prelim, then BT by a point in the GF!
Tips this week:
BT
OC
YV
OMs
Rupo
Good work all
Tips
BT
PR
Rupo
OM
Great post by Archangel... I would have to agree that OG are up and running. Their form has been fairly inconsistent over the year, but their best is extremely good - perhaps better than OC or BT. Don't think that we can read too much into the injury side of things - as has been said, most play with some sort of niggle at this time of year.
Interesting result out at OM. OM another team with up and down form all year. THey seemed a little bit unfit when I saw them against rupo, and did not run the game out. BT are allowed a lapse at this time of year - still a very good team - but things have certainly got interesting.
OC and BT should be the favourites - given their form over the entire year - but OG may be coming good at the right time. THen it comes to YV and rupo. I think that the big grounds and dry days of the finals will not suit YV if they make it (sorry toohas). Rupo on the other hand, given the right conditions (dry big ground), could make an impact. But this is all speculation and 3 rounds still to go.
Dudley Hamstrung
8 Aug 2006, 18:29
Saw our boys take on current flag favs Old Carey on the weekend and was impressed by the OC and our own young side. Rupo were on top early and the young run really did trouble OC in these stages, either the second or third quarter was our downfall (pretty sure it was the third) with OC kicking 5 or 6 goals in a row. Was very impressed to see our young guys match it with Carey in the physical stakes. They were massive. The two or three biggest ruckmen I have ever seen. I think the key to beating OC is to run hard early and make the most of scoring opportunities. They are a side that can score very very quickly so it wouldn't be unrealistic to see them reel in a 5 or 6 goal deficet. BT (from the game earlier in the year) are quite similar.
This week Emmaus journey out Sunbury way in what is a must win game. I think we have the fire power to do it. Just need that little bit of belief and we should get over the line.
Cheers all.
Thorpedo69
8 Aug 2006, 18:54
Archangel,
Great post indeed. Far from tipping the obvious results based on ladder position, as our friend the Qwill tends to do, you've pulled out some unconventional but very legitimate tips.
It's a big call to tip Banyule over OMs, but OMs do travel very poorly and Banyule have a lot more to play. By all accounts Banyule were fairly ordinary on the weekend though. I don't know if I'd tip Banyule, but I think it will be a very close game.
I would definitely tip OGs for the reasons you have mentioned- more to play for; better record at Como, which provides them with a lot of space to work in. Casboult and O'Brien seem to be in stella form. Anyone have any more specifics on VW's condition? Someone said he's "not right (physically)"?
You seem pretty confident that Prahran will get up both on the weekend and in the ultimate relegation battle with Banyule and Leos. I actually saw the end of the magooes match for Prahran a few weeks ago and they seemed to have some good players who stood out and looked like they could be strong contributors in the seniors- Marriott; Wilson and Jones I think. Walford looked good in the seniors as an attacking CHB.
I agree also that Rupo's running game should get them over the line out at their ground. Does anyone know if it is going to be wet? Ugly?! I reckon that Leos might be too big and strong if it is wet, especially with the Le Clercs and Ballard (if he is fit). By the way, any word on Ballard's leg injury? Buckle seems to have found form after his long stint out due to suspension, and Baranello has hit some form too.
linger_isgod
9 Aug 2006, 09:44
I'll put half my life-savings on ESL to get relegated at 10's.
And the other half on Prahran at 7's.
Can't lose, baby!
Archangel17
9 Aug 2006, 11:13
I'll put half my life-savings on ESL to get relegated at 10's.
And the other half on Prahran at 7's.
Can't lose, baby!
:D :p
just for Linger
Prahran 3/2
ESL 3-1
Fantastic stuff Archangel. I had to log on just to applaud the fine effort and detail you have gone into. From what i've seen this year in D1 i believe Old Carey are going to be tuff to beat when the real stuff kicks off in September if they can shake the physcological edge that Bulleen Temp seem to have over them
Hey Silky,
You seem to know a bit about BT. I've noticed your reserves have won 4 or 5 on the trot and knocked of OM on the weekend. The rumour mill has it that some very handy senior players are running around. Is this true?
Maybe a late charge for the finals but we'll put an end to that in the coming weeks.
Hey Silky,
You seem to know a bit about BT. I've noticed your reserves have won 4 or 5 on the trot and knocked of OM on the weekend. The rumour mill has it that some very handy senior players are running around. Is this true?
Maybe a late charge for the finals but we'll put an end to that in the coming weeks.
5 in a row, finals will be difficult but you never know. The side is vastly different to earlier in the year when the ressies only had 2 wins in the first half of the season
silky_skills
9 Aug 2006, 14:39
Hey Silky,
You seem to know a bit about BT. I've noticed your reserves have won 4 or 5 on the trot and knocked of OM on the weekend. The rumour mill has it that some very handy senior players are running around. Is this true?
Maybe a late charge for the finals but we'll put an end to that in the coming weeks.
The BT ressies are on a roll. They're are a good mix of experienced and younger players - all pulling in the right direction. Don't rule anything out yet X-Files... 'I want to believe'
Chip & Gravy
9 Aug 2006, 16:25
Stellar post Archangel, have to say that i agree with most of what you have to say. One question to all D1 fans out there, is there a possibility that the top 3 teams are faultering ever so slightly leading into one of the closest finals campaigns in D1 for many a year? BT went down to middle of the road Mentone (who were good on the day), OC merely got over the line against a Rupo side that is way down on confidence, with a young team who's bodies may be a bit tired. (not saying Rupo can't make the 4 though) and OC were at home (6 goal better side there), & OGS faultered 3 weeks ago, and despite looking good now it may be a sign. The only side that keeps coming is YV, are they the real deal??? I don't think so, I'm with Archangel, OGS could steal the flag on the bigger grounds, but something to think about.
A lot to be taken out of this weeks results. It will give us an indicator of which teams may be peaking at the right time. Maybe it will come down to coaching?
Any news on VW or Parton yet re: injuries etc?
uglydermie
9 Aug 2006, 18:13
didnt BT pull YV's pants down at Domeney only 2 weeks ago?
YV are no good - forget them- I hear Prahan are very keen on that rematch after a certain YV player king hit the non playing Prahran coach FROM BEHIND during a heated malee on 3qtr time.
"Stone the CROWS"......
Tips
Bullants to bounce back
OC in a tight one
Yarra Valley
Old Mentonians
Rupertswood- must win