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Crowked
1 Mar 2006, 12:19
I have heard he's on the rapid improve and is available to us via the FS rule.

Good enough?

Available to us?

Type of player?

Anything?

Vader
1 Mar 2006, 12:38
If he's the son of Michael Aish then he'd definitely be available as F/S.

Can't answer any of your other questions though.

Stiffy_18
1 Mar 2006, 12:47
If he's the son of Michael Aish then he'd definitely be available as F/S.

Can't answer any of your other questions though.
After the Bryce Gibbs episode, I wouldn't be certain about anything.

SpringChoke
1 Mar 2006, 12:53
Some one on here said he's very Skinny but also tough as nails, in the Mattner mould.

I think he is a FS option. It would be nice, especially when it looks like Port will now get Bryce.:D

crows98
1 Mar 2006, 12:58
I have heard he's on the rapid improve and is available to us via the FS rule.

He played in the Norwood trial game, started on a wing and moved to a half forward flank in the 4th quarter. He left a lasting memory with me after he kicked a gaol; he was shoulder to shoulder with Ian Perrie and over 4 metres he ended up running into an empty goals, not sure if Perrie gave up or took it easy but he showed he has a lot of pace of the mark..

Good enough? In the second half of the AFC vs. Norwood game he didn’t look out of place like some 17 years do. He was competitive when he went for a contested mark and safe hands when it hit the ground. Could play 10 games for Norwood A’s. Give him the season with Norwood, but he looked promising.

Available to us?Who knows any more? How many games did Michael play for Norwood between January 1st 1970 and December 30th 1989 (to make sure)?

Type of player?

Anything? Wingman/ mid field type, half forward flank (I guess half back as well)

BringbacktheBiff2005
1 Mar 2006, 13:24
He played in the Norwood trial game, started on a wing and moved to a half forward flank in the 4th quarter. He left a lasting memory with me after he kicked a gaol; he was shoulder to shoulder with Ian Perrie and over 4 metres he ended up running into an empty goals, not sure if Perrie gave up or took it easy but he showed he has a lot of pace of the mark..

Good enough? In the second half of the AFC vs. Norwood game he didn’t look out of place like some 17 years do. He was competitive when he went for a contested mark and safe hands when it hit the ground. Could play 10 games for Norwood A’s. Give him the season with Norwood, but he looked promising.

Available to us?Who knows any more? How many games did Michael play for Norwood between January 1st 1970 and December 30th 1989 (to make sure)?
Type of player?

Anything? Wingman/ mid field type, half forward flank (I guess half back as well)

Just had a look and Michael Aish played 307 games for Norwood between 1979 and 1983 so all looks good.

crows98
1 Mar 2006, 13:37
Just had a look and Michael Aish played 307 games for Norwood between 1979 and 1983 so all looks good.


1993 -

In 1979 what round did he debut?

1991, 1992 and 1993 (maximum 75 games @ 25 per year)?

1979-end of 1990 needed to have played 200 games. So it does look likely he would meet the criteria.

BringbacktheBiff2005
1 Mar 2006, 15:20
1993 -

In 1979 what round did he debut?

1991, 1992 and 1993 (maximum 75 games @ 25 per year)?

1979-end of 1990 needed to have played 200 games. So it does look likely he would meet the criteria.

Oops my apologies - gee he'd have to be good to play 300 games in 4 years!!!

I'd say he is ours under FS - surely worth a punt as we are only giving up a 3rd rounder to get him.

Leaping Lindner
1 Mar 2006, 15:50
Oops my apologies - gee he'd have to be good to play 300 games in 4 years!!!

I'd say he is ours under FS - surely worth a punt as we are only giving up a 3rd rounder to get him.

Fear not the AFL will change the rules when young Aish is good enough. He'll probably qualify for Richmond because they tried to get Michael to play for them.

dyertribe
1 Mar 2006, 16:01
Fear not the AFL will change the rules when young Aish is good enough. He'll probably qualify for Richmond because they tried to get Michael to play for them.

Or the AFL will use him against us when ruling on Bryce.

"Stop your whinging, yeah you miss out on Son of Gibbs - but next year you get Son of Aish."

Blue Red and Gold
1 Mar 2006, 16:22
Or the AFL will use him against us when ruling on Bryce.

"Stop your whinging, yeah you miss out on Son of Gibbs - but next year you get Son of Aish."
That was my thoughts when I read he is available.

Gets!
1 Mar 2006, 16:24
He gonna be worth a 3rd rounder though?

Blue Red and Gold
1 Mar 2006, 16:37
I would like to see how he goes this year before making a judgement.


I hope people dont jump on his bandwagon just for the sake of gaining a FS selection.

hey shorty
1 Mar 2006, 16:52
Dont rate him much personally.... Like Darren Pfeiffer he played up in the adelaide hills as a junior, finished around 5th in the association medal the year fyfe polled 39 votes from a possible 39 !!!! and blitzed it naturally. Back to Aish hes reasonably quick and tall but wastes his disposal and is prone to backing off the hard ball. Did break my nose tho !!!! Not saying much coz im half his height. I agree dont jump on the bandwagon just because hes eligible and an Aish. Wait and see until after this year

Macca19
1 Mar 2006, 17:01
Michael had 242 games from 1979-89 so he easily qualifies

London-Tavern-Is-Filth
1 Mar 2006, 17:16
Played against him once, when he filled in for a under 17 game, he basically one tha game for em against us, kicked for memory 5 in a low scoring match, is extrmely quick, and that was tha main reason he was so dominant, his skills arnt tha best, and his bouncing of tha footy is woeful

crowsarethebest
1 Mar 2006, 17:19
Yeah I agree to wait maybe next year. This year's draft is deeper than the last two year's draft so there still could be some gems lieing around 3rd round.

bigman
1 Mar 2006, 20:21
Yeah I agree to wait maybe next year. This year's draft is deeper than the last two year's draft so there still could be some gems lieing around 3rd round.

I think he will be good enough by years end. Impressed with his performance at Norwood.

Will get better with age like fine wine.

RooDog
1 Mar 2006, 22:37
wasnt he eligible last year and this year... because didnt he do year 12 over two years??

Crowked
2 Mar 2006, 06:57
Thanks for the feedback people.

Sounds like the jury's out on young Aish's ability, but he's definately available via FS. Maybe it will be more clear later in the season, when he's had his chance to shine.

wizard_9
7 Mar 2006, 14:08
Was on the verge of playing Reserves last year and than left Norwood as he preferred to play school footy.
Will be interesting, i dont think he will make it.

GoSarge
7 Mar 2006, 15:43
Doesn't appear to be any great wraps on the boy, I hear there are bigger wraps on Seb Paynter, but I dont even know if John Paynter qualifies.

Crowked
8 Mar 2006, 07:04
Doesn't appear to be any great wraps on the boy, I hear there are bigger wraps on Seb Paynter, but I dont even know if John Paynter qualifies.
He definately played 200 games but I have no idea if they were in the qualifying period. The SANFL web site has removed the details of the 200 game players for some reason. Also there doesnt seem to be any information on Paynter in the Sturt web site, the Legends of the SANFL site or anywhere on the web, which I thought was a tad bit strange considering he was a star in his era.

Any Sturt fans out there know Paynter's details??

SpringChoke
8 Mar 2006, 07:36
He definately played 200 games but I have no idea if they were in the qualifying period. The SANFL web site has removed the details of the 200 game players for some reason. Also there doesnt seem to be any information on Paynter in the Sturt web site, the Legends of the SANFL site or anywhere on the web, which I thought was a tad bit strange considering he was a star in his era.

Any Sturt fans out there know Paynter's details??

he would qualify if you take into account his sturt and bays games. However, I'm pretty sure sturt are alligned to Port Power.

Crowked
8 Mar 2006, 08:11
he would qualify if you take into account his sturt and bays games. However, I'm pretty sure sturt are alligned to Port Power.
I didnt realise he played for the Bays at all. I thought he only played for the Double Blues.

Also I thought our clubs were, Norwood, Glenelg, Sturt and South. While Port had PMFC, Central, Eagles (both Woodville & Torrens), North and West.

I'm no expert though, obviously!:o

Vader
8 Mar 2006, 08:19
he would qualify if you take into account his sturt and bays games. However, I'm pretty sure sturt are alligned to Port Power.

Doesn't the rule specify that the 200 qualifying games have to be played at one club?

Thus a player who plays 201 games for Norwood and 50 for Port would qualify for Adelaide as F/S, but someone who plays 150 games for Norwood and 150 for Port would qualify for neither.

SpringChoke
8 Mar 2006, 09:05
Doesn't the rule specify that the 200 qualifying games have to be played at one club?

Thus a player who plays 201 games for Norwood and 50 for Port would qualify for Adelaide as F/S, but someone who plays 150 games for Norwood and 150 for Port would qualify for neither.

So on that basis, and given what Crowkie has said, he would be eligible for us.

Vader
8 Mar 2006, 09:15
So on that basis, and given what Crowkie has said, he would be eligible for us.
Could well be. Haven't seen the stats to know how many games he played, at which club, within the required timeframe.

Crowked
8 Mar 2006, 12:24
I sought information on the SANFL board and the news (if correct, which I asume it is) is all bad.

198 games for Sturt!!!!

Bloody hell!

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227977

bigman
13 May 2006, 09:25
I think he will be good enough by years end. Impressed with his performance at Norwood.

Will get better with age like fine wine.


Noticed he was best for the reserves and kicking regular numbers of goals.

Drummond, Punchy, is he improving as I sugested he might as the year goes on?

Has he got that something special to make it at AFL?

Finally is he actually eligble now under the grandfather/great grandfather/son rule?

Which other sons of 200 game players are currently playing SANFL football (Under 17-league) beside Hately and Gibbs?

Would Peter Marker's son be avaialable who played in the Crows pre- game entertainment match before hand?

SpringChoke
13 May 2006, 10:59
Noticed he was best for the reserves and kicking regular numbers of goals.

Drummond, Punchy, is he improving as I sugested he might as the year goes on?

Has he got that something special to make it at AFL?

Finally is he actually eligble now under the grandfather/great grandfather/son rule?

Which other sons of 200 game players are currently playing SANFL football (Under 17-league) beside Hately and Gibbs?

Would Peter Marker's son be avaialable who played in the Crows pre- game entertainment match before hand?

Peter Markers would have definately played 200 games. How old is his son, must be nearing 40?

Does anyone have that list of eligible players for The Crows and Port?

RogerRabbit69
13 May 2006, 11:08
Jesse Aish definitely qualifies under the father-son. But when the Gibbs saga blew up, I remember Triggy being quoted as saying the Crows would almost certainly not be able to pick up a player under the f-s rule for 10 years (or something along those lines). If that's right, Jesse Aish isn't even on the Crows' radar.

jc67
13 May 2006, 17:16
Jesse Aish definitely qualifies under the father-son. But when the Gibbs saga blew up, I remember Triggy being quoted as saying the Crows would almost certainly not be able to pick up a player under the f-s rule for 10 years (or something along those lines). If that's right, Jesse Aish isn't even on the Crows' radar.
When it was discussed on 5aa, Cornes pulled him up on Jessie.
he's on the radar, but like most i reckon that a 3rd rounder is over the odds. ATM.
I personally like the idea of him not nominating until next year, because we could treat him like a rookie, and if he comes up great if not, no loss.
Anyone know if he actually wants to play footy for a living?

CROWS9798
15 May 2006, 17:24
How about the BradThomas for Norwood, heard he is also eligible and invlved in SA u18s team :confused:

Macca19
15 May 2006, 17:42
Yeah Paynter misses out by a couple of games.

I have my doubts on Aish. Hes fairly tall...must be at least 190cm. Is very quick for his size. Against Port a couple of weeks ago he showed everything - both good and bad. His first half was horrid, dropped marks, weak efforts, dud kicks. His second half got them back into the game with a few goals and a few assists too. Is a bit of a cult hero down there too.

RogerRabbit69
20 May 2006, 13:31
Anyone happen to see anything of Jesse Aish in the reserves last night?

RogerRabbit69
27 May 2006, 13:46
see he was named second-best in the under-20s match last night.

SpringChoke
27 May 2006, 22:18
What position does Aish play? I've heard he's as skinny as a rake but tough as nails, true or false?

Wayne's-World
27 May 2006, 22:48
What position does Aish play? I've heard he's as skinny as a rake but tough as nails, true or false?
Sounds like a description of his father so I'd say your right

bigman
28 May 2006, 09:17
Although Michael played for Norwood at an early age his brother matured a little later.

Jessie could be in that category.

The next thing he needs to do is to make the Norwood seniors and stay there on a regular basis.

Success is a fine line at this level.

A few good games here and it will not just be the Bigman and a few others saying they told you so.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Macca19
28 May 2006, 12:05
Whenever Ive seen Aish hes played on a forward flank as a Scott Stevens type tall flanker. Hes not skinny as a rake. Hes got a reasonable amount of muscle. Hes taller than his dad was. Quite quick across the ground but can look very uncoordinated at times.

Carl Spackler
28 May 2006, 21:17
He's a bit of a reluctant footballer - a touch of the Nathan Abletts about him. After finishing with 1st XVIII he was planning to play Old Scholars footy and just have a kick with his mates. He had to be convinced by others to give SANFL a crack.

SpringChoke
28 May 2006, 21:20
He's a bit of a reluctant footballer - a touch of the Nathan Abletts about him. After finishing with 1st XVIII he was planning to play Old Scholars footy and just have a kick with his mates. He had to be convinced by others to give SANFL a crack.

In that case, he best stay at Norwood.

RogerRabbit69
29 May 2006, 10:03
He's a bit of a reluctant footballer - a touch of the Nathan Abletts about him. After finishing with 1st XVIII he was planning to play Old Scholars footy and just have a kick with his mates. He had to be convinced by others to give SANFL a crack.
Yeah, I've heard that before. He's got absolutely no chance of making it at AFL level if he isn't totally committed.

NikkiNoo
29 May 2006, 19:39
He's a bit of a reluctant footballer - a touch of the Nathan Abletts about him. After finishing with 1st XVIII he was planning to play Old Scholars footy and just have a kick with his mates. He had to be convinced by others to give SANFL a crack.

If this is the case then it's the reason why he has never been considered by the crows recruiters.

bigman
2 Jun 2006, 13:35
Plays for Norwood this weekend in what could be his first game for the league side.

He is inching towards a spot on our list- slowly but surely.

Is the Thomas who is also playing tonight Keith Thomas' son.

If so what is the informaiton on the young man and is he eligble.

Interesting times ahead!!!!!

Gets!
2 Jun 2006, 13:40
Nice work Aishy. Hopefully he can have a good run in the seniors.

I think the Thomas you are referring to is infact Matt Thomas, who is on the Power's rookie list.

bigman
2 Jun 2006, 13:41
Nice work Aishy. Hopefully he can have a good run in the seniors.

I think the Thomas you are referring to is infact Matt Thomas, who is on the Power's rookie list.

Thanks for the info Gets.

Punchy Bassett
2 Jun 2006, 14:59
Nice work Aishy. Hopefully he can have a good run in the seniors.

I think the Thomas you are referring to is infact Matt Thomas, who is on the Power's rookie list.

Gets is correct Matt Thomas, Victorian drafted by Port in last years draft

crows98
2 Jun 2006, 15:03
How old is Jessie Aish?

bigman
2 Jun 2006, 18:04
How old is Jessie Aish?

20 Crows 98.

He could be a late developer a la his uncle and Bernie Vince.

crows98
2 Jun 2006, 18:08
20 Crows 98.

He could be a late developer a la his uncle and Bernie Vince.

Cheers Bigman :thumbsu:

BeeSimm
6 Jun 2006, 20:24
Hi all, I haved recently moved to Melbourne and are a bit behind on the gossip. Jesse Aish playing AFL, I can hear it now from my work colleagues "whos son.... Michael Aish?, never heard him.....". I am getting a little parochial here but if Michael Aish was playing today he would be one of the guns of the league, he was still dominating when he played against the other old timers in the Whitten Legends Game a few years ago.

What about some of the other guys like Justin Scanlon, Keith Thomas, Danny Jenkins, Lester Ross, David Payne - does anybody know if they have any kids coming through the ranks..? ahhh those were the good old days = pre AFL!!

Blue Red and Gold
7 Jun 2006, 00:19
did anyone see him on ten news tonight?

Fairly classy goal he kicked, got to be happy with that for his first kick in league footy.

Crowked
7 Jun 2006, 09:03
did anyone see him on ten news tonight?

Fairly classy goal he kicked, got to be happy with that for his first kick in league footy.
Yeh, I saw him and the old man.

He's basically came out and said he wants to be the first Crow father/son selection, and I get the feeling the interview was mostly to put his name up and make sure the Crows are aware of him and his desire to play for us.

They stated that he had only taken up playing football seriously in recent years and was developing very quickly. He certainly looks to be a good build for it. He's taller than the old man, looks fairly solid without being really muscular, and looks pretty athletic.

Lets wait and see how he goes for the remainder of the season. Just maybe he can impress enough to warrant the Crows taking the punt. I think everyone would love to see him turn into something special like the old man was. It might soften the blow of missing out on that other son of a gun we've been denied. Fingers crossed.

GoSarge
7 Jun 2006, 10:07
I believe Lester Ross' son was Jonathon ?

Lets hope that Jesse is worth more than a third round pick so we can get him with a third rounder.

BeeSimm
7 Jun 2006, 19:42
no Lester Ross was actually Jonathons older brother

Wayne's-World
7 Jun 2006, 20:32
Lets hope that Jesse is worth more than a third round pick so we can get him with a third rounder.
Don't have to take him this year....can tell the lad "wait another year" then review it

Very strong draft ....not ideal for Aish to up against a 3rd round in this draft?

Asking him to wait an extra year is almost like placing him on the rookie list...in fact IMO nothing stopping the club having him train with us or at the least accessing the AFC resources (A.Stewart)

RogerRabbit69
7 Jun 2006, 20:43
I think you'll find some of the people at the AFC already have given Jesse a bit of guidance.

Based on the little I've seen of him this year, I don't know if Jesse's worth a third-round draft pick at this stage. I'm sure our recruiting team would have done plenty of homework on him already though.

The Crows Truth
7 Jun 2006, 20:48
Don't have to take him this year....can tell the lad "wait another year" then review it

Very strong draft ....not ideal for Aish to up against a 3rd round in this draft?

Asking him to wait an extra year is almost like placing him on the rookie list...in fact IMO nothing stopping the club having him train with us or at the least accessing the AFC resources (A.Stewart)

WW

What you are proposing is no doubt good for the club but not for the young man in question.

You are effectively saying dont nominate for this yrs draft on the CHANCE the crows will pick you up next year. But theres no guarantees - injuries, form etc can impact next yr. ANd Trigg mentioned recently of no upcoming FS selections for a number of yrs.

With the above in mind, why would Aish not nominate for this yrs draft ?

RogerRabbit69
7 Jun 2006, 20:52
From what I've heard, it's very unlikely Jesse Aish would be prepared to nominate for the draft if the Crows weren't going to pick him up. I'm told he's not prepared to move interstate away from his family.

The Crows Truth
7 Jun 2006, 20:54
From what I've heard, it's very unlikely Jesse Aish would be prepared to nominate for the draft if the Crows weren't going to pick him up. I'm told he's not prepared to move interstate away from his family.

thats interesting. Would drastically reduce his chances of getting drafted but its his decision I suppose.

jc67
7 Jun 2006, 20:59
From what I've heard, it's very unlikely Jesse Aish would be prepared to nominate for the draft if the Crows weren't going to pick him up. I'm told he's not prepared to move interstate away from his family.
His dad was like that with norwood.

Michael and Neil craig are old mates, that alone would make sure that Jessie gets an even break.

I still tip not nominating.

Wayne's-World
7 Jun 2006, 20:59
WW


With the above in mind, why would Aish not nominate for this yrs draft ?
Beacuse the Crows may think in a strong draft that he's not worth a 3rd round (late developer as someone said) ....yet they may take him next year as a third round with a little more development.

The crows may also like to rookie him but thats a raffle.....yes he can put himself in the draft BUT if the Crows don't think he's worth it....the odds are that very few 3rd rounders make it anyway.

Wayne's-World
7 Jun 2006, 21:00
His dad was like that with norwood.

Michael and Neil craig are old mates, that alone would make sure that Jessie gets an even break.

I still tip not nominating.
Agree

The Crows Truth
7 Jun 2006, 21:05
Beacuse the Crows may think in a strong draft that he's not worth a 3rd round (late developer as someone said) ....yet they may take him next year as a third round with a little more development.

The crows may also like to rookie him but thats a raffle.....yes he can put himself in the draft BUT if the Crows don't think he's worth it....the odds are that very few 3rd rounders make it anyway.

i see what you are saying but you didnt answer the question i posed. whats the benefit for jeesie to not nominate for this yrs draft considering the crows wouldnt be able to guarantee him a spot next yr. and trigg recently said there were no upcoming father son selections in sight. hardly reassuring for jessie surely?

RogerRabbit69
7 Jun 2006, 21:14
My tip would be he won't be picked up under the f-s rule and, as a result, he won't nominate for the draft, either.

contested mark
7 Jun 2006, 21:25
My tip would be he won't be picked up under the f-s rule and, as a result, he won't nominate for the draft, either.
if hes borderline obviously they wont want him in the 'super' draft. Doesnt we wont look at him in the future in a weaker draft.

Crow-mo
7 Jun 2006, 21:32
From what I've heard, it's very unlikely Jesse Aish would be prepared to nominate for the draft if the Crows weren't going to pick him up. I'm told he's not prepared to move interstate away from his family.

he doesn't have to go if he doesn't like the team who picks him up.

RogerRabbit69
7 Jun 2006, 21:37
But, from my understanding, the only team he would be happy to play for is the Crows. I'm no expert on the draft rules, but don't they make some sort of commitment to agree to be drafted if they nominate?

Gets!
7 Jun 2006, 21:44
He should just enter the draft, he will still be their with our fifth round pick you would think.

Crow-mo
7 Jun 2006, 21:51
But, from my understanding, the only team he would be happy to play for is the Crows. I'm no expert on the draft rules, but don't they make some sort of commitment to agree to be drafted if they nominate?

yeah he can be drafted, but doesn't mean he'll go.
doesn't hurt him if Brisbane draft him say. he just stays home if wants to.

*PAFC*13
7 Jun 2006, 22:01
Bit O/T guys, but what are your thoughts on young Matt Thomas for Norwood?