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Well its the final and deciding test starting today in Perth. What are peoples predictions?
Can someone also post the scores as it goes along.
I won't be going today but hopefully I'm going tommorow and I will definately be going Sunday. Does anyone think it will go the full 5 days? I have my doubts, hence I'm not planning to go on Tuesday. If its still on though, I might try and go, depending on the money situation.
Anyway, its slightly overcast over here but it doesn't look like rain.
Vis
roobear
30 Nov 2001, 08:19
For what it's worth, I reckon we can beat them inside 4 days. We are far superior. I just hope you guys get some good weather. Mainly, I hope Langer gets a ton at home.
May I add that it is also extremely windy! Bloody NZ's bring the bad weather with them! :cool:
kretchy
30 Nov 2001, 10:03
I don't reckon the kiwis should be opening with Vincent the first gamer to much pressure especially on the WACA wicket.
Sinclair should open with Richardson then move everyone up a spot and bat Vincent at six behind McMillian.
Kiwis won toss
elected to bat
1/14 after about half an hour
Cheers
Gonzo
play on
30 Nov 2001, 12:14
I have a feeling that we will win on day four. But, it would not surprise me if we win on day three.
kretchy
30 Nov 2001, 12:44
now 2/50
Fleming 14
Vincent 18
Both Vincent and Fleming are looking alright. McGrath has gone of the field with what the believe is a back injury hopefully its not too serious.
kretchy
30 Nov 2001, 12:48
They just said McGrath has back spasams in his lower back and has gone off to hospital for some precautionary x-rays they are hopeful that he will back on the ground after lunch.
2/87 at lunch
Confirmed McGrath in hospital as a precaution
Commentators squealing about the lack of depth in Oz bowling stocks and are now calling for an allrounder to be groomed!
Cheers
Gonzo
GoEagles
30 Nov 2001, 13:44
I'm going to the test on Sunday, friend couldn't make it today.
Fleming - 33
Lou Vincent (sounds like a Gangsta's name) - 33
According to ShaggyGreen, McGrath is "back at the ground after a stint at hospital with back spasms xrayed"
Looking outside my window, the sky is very grey and overcast. Geeze, It hasn't rained here since about August and it would be just out luck that we might get a shower in the afternoon. Fingers crossed.
GoEagles
30 Nov 2001, 14:55
After the 37th over:
Match State: Delay - Day 1 - Streakers - 3 of them invade the field
:D Was this captured on TV?
2/170. Vincent on 80, Fleming on 68. McGrath can't bowl until 20 minutes after tea.
Had a hunch Vincent would do all right. Sinclair is in a bit of a rut, and Bell was frankly not good enough. This is a terrific start by New Zealand, their best of the tour so far. Fleming looks in good form. We really need all of our fast bowlers out there and firing.
But by the look of that pitch, we'll probably score 800.
GoEagles
30 Nov 2001, 16:08
New Zealand 2/186 batting very well. The pitch looks like it's 3 days old, I wish they could produce the good 70s and early 80s WACA pitches that were more bowler friendly.
Originally posted by kretchy
I don't reckon the kiwis should be opening with Vincent the first gamer to much pressure especially on the WACA wicket.
You're responsible for him making 104 when you said that:D
Finished with something like 7/280 odd (?) - don't remember - was getting away from the Aussies until Gillespie and Lee picked up a couple of late wickets each.
GoEagles
30 Nov 2001, 21:17
We should be able to roll their tall for under 300 tomorrow. Then spend the next 2 days building a solid 1st innings total. Will Steve Waugh make his first ton at the WACA wearing the baggy green?
The Hippie
30 Nov 2001, 21:28
Mark Waugh, shouldn't that be. Hasn't Steve already made centuries at each Australian Test ground? Or am I thinking of his record against each Test playing nation?
Originally posted by The Hippie
Mark Waugh, shouldn't that be. Hasn't Steve already made centuries at each Australian Test ground? Or am I thinking of his record against each Test playing nation?
Your thinking bout his record against all test playing nations. He's made a few 90s at the WACA, including one when he was left stranded on 99.
dogboy23
1 Dec 2001, 07:55
Brett Lee was spanked again but did get two wickets in Cairns and Fleming two of there most important.
No updates so far today? I'll kick it off.
New Zealand 7/394. Who was it who said we'd knock them over for under 300? We ought to have a moratorium on predictions.
It looks a lot like a draw coming up. Astle and Parore batted very cleverly this morning, seeing off the early overs without taking any risks (or scoring many runs), but they look pretty set right now.
Now 7/490
Few overs after tea starting to go for a bit of a slog.
GoEagles
1 Dec 2001, 18:00
New Zealand proved a lot of us (including me) wrong! Credit goes to the Black Caps.
New Zealand declared for 9/534
Australia currently 1/20
Hayden scored a duck.
2/75 at stumps Langer and M.Waugh in Ponting out caught behind off of Martin.
I thought Ponting was looking good as well.
End of Day Two and New Zealand on top on a flat deck at the WACA.
Geez it is hard to imagine New Zealand having a better day than they just did today, unless of course they bowl Australia out tomorrow. :D
Who else thinks that replay on the big screen of Waugh catching Astle off Warne ruined Warne's concentration for the next delivery that he dropped?
Originally posted by Nic
We're ******.
i hate to admit it but yes, we are
full credit to NZ tho, no one even rated them when they came to Australia
GoEagles
2 Dec 2001, 16:18
Australia are 6/251 off 73 overs
Good to see Langer and Martyn back in form with 50s. Gilchrist is a bit of a worry against spin IMO, not sure if he's 100% over the whole Harbhajan Singh.
End of day one :)
End of day two :D
End of day three :D
End of day four :confused:
brownybears bro
2 Dec 2001, 19:34
end of day 3
poor warnie out on 99
he tried to get it quickly because of Mc Grath at the other end but he should have showed some trust in him and he would have got it easily
AND E.
End of day three. Australia all out for 351 in reply to NZ's 534/9 declared. Warne out for 99, a good rear guard action by the tail ending on a bit of a sour note. Vettori 6/87.
It could have been a lot worse. Dropped catches and a couple of caught behind decisions turned down that proved to be out (Langer and Warne, from memory), and a lot of agricultural batting ending up in safe patches of the outfield. I should think the Aussies would be a little relieved, and a touch annoyed at the decision going against Lee.
It always irks me to see a batsman stand his ground in situations like those. Unless there is some serious reason to doubt the fielder's honesty, you should walk. In a perfect world. And I concede there's a lot more at stake in a wicket these days, now that cricket is more a business than a game. The batsman knows he'll probably stay in via a technicality, as replays are rarely conclusive, whether the catch is legitimate or not.
That aside, New Zealand should be very proud of their efforts. I wonder what the first two tests might have looked like had Fleming decided to bat first instead of field. In this test, Australia has been on the back foot since those first two wickets fell, except for that spell at the end of the first day.
There has to be question marks over the bowling of Warne and McGrath. They've lacked penetration all series. The batting of the Waughs is a worry too; less so had they been younger than they are, but at the age of 36 you have to wonder what they're hanging around for. We'll know more about that if they fail against South Africa. It's not an issue yet, but it could be soon. Mark in particular looks as if his reflexes are slower than they have been.
Any predictions as to what might happen? I think if New Zealand make anything over 200 the game is out of our reach. Though I'd love to see us chasing 380 on the last day. It'd make for a tremendous finish.
What has impressed me this series is that New Zealand has out-thought if not out-fought Australia.
The hyped Australia bowling attack has been contained all series by excellent discipline and real patience at the wicket, the New Zealand first innings was the ultimate example of a team unwilling to needlessly chase the stock deliveries of the Australian pace man outside the off stump.
While the Australian batting has benefited from monster opening partnerships and very wayward New Zealand bowling, the Black Caps have finally gotten its best bowling line up sorted, with
Bond and Martin easily looking the most penetrative and consistent quick bolwers for NZ all tour. The Australian trio is capable of a performance much better than these two, but their movement and pace have leveled the playing field somewhat.
In this test the implementation of real imaginative strategy has allowed them to bundle Australia out for 351 in conditions which still on the whole favour the batsman. That 'bodyline' attack in the morning session was pure genius, while Vettori has so far easily outclassed a very ordinary Shane Warne on an increasingly turning wicket.
As a captain Fleming has done everything right all series, from winning every toss, scoring lots of runs and having confidence in his strategy and his hunches. Surprisingly Steve Waugh on the other hand has looked like a captain who can barely be bothered to go through the motions.
I would love to see Australia chasing 450+ over the last four sessions with Daniel Vettori on the attack, and even the worst case scenario the chase should at least be 350. It is a lot of pressure on the kid but he is the only person who can now effectively win or lose the test.
New Zealand have not won this test yet, and may very well choke tomorrow, but they have certainly exposed a few frailties in this Australian team that were not visible a month ago. A 0-0 test series was beyond my wildest dreams, I am not about to start counting my chickens just yet.
The Hippie
2 Dec 2001, 21:31
I'm wondering whether the Aussies aren't totally switched on in these first 3 Tests. They seem to be playing with half an eye to the South African series and NZ have slipped under their guard a little (or a lot.)
The weather's been the real winner, Australia had probably won 4 or 5 of the days (out of probably 6 or 7 actually played) of the first 2 Tests, but the history books won't show that, it'll only remember the series score, however it turns out.
But, hey, that's what makes the game great to watch, the unpredictability.
Can't wait for Dan26 to tell us that a test series should be decided on a wickets to runs ratio because that's mathematically fairer:D
Hayden's gone for 57. And with him go whatever slight chances Australia had of winning this test. Four and a half hours of survival ahead.
3/130. Vettori 1/32
I reckon we are still in it. The Waughs are consolidating, but still scoring (they just took 13 off one Cairns over) so they haven't shut up shop just yet. And with Gilchrist to come.....
What is the latest score???
Current score
4/224
Mark Waugh bowled for 86 by McMillian.
Martyn looking ok Steve Waugh struggling to make many runs.
I doubt umpire Robinson will be scheduled for a test involving New Zealand anytime soon. The real annoying thing is they were not even difficult decisions. Total incompetence.
I said it, but I will not dwell on it. A bitter-sweet series all round.
Oh and I wonder how the Indians would of handled the situation.
Originally posted by Fat Red
Can't wait for Dan26 to tell us that a test series should be decided on a wickets to runs ratio because that's mathematically fairer:D
You can joke......................