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Johnson#26
5 Mar 2006, 11:21
All discussion in here, I guess. :)

Collingwood vs Fremantle: Match Preview
Match Preview
05 Mar 2006
Luke Mason
http://www.magpies.net/nick/article/article.php?subaction=showfull&id=1141557417&archive=&start_from=&ucat=4&

Prior to its successful clash with St.Kilda last Sunday, Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse described the match as an opportunity to see where his young squad is at, in comparison with the rest of the competition. The Pies showed plenty, in knocking off the flag favourites by a point, and earned a trip to Perth to take on a Fremantle side brimming with confidence. Malthouse will gain a second insight into how his side is travelling, with the Dockers stating their intentions to blitz all comers.

Subiaco Oval has not been a happy hunting ground in recent times for the Magpies, their record at the ground since 2000 reading two wins and three losses – their latest win coming in round 19 2004, when an undermanned Collingwood shocked the Dockers.

The fact that the Magpies have struggled on the wide expanses of Subiaco has been well documented, the side suffering two of its heaviest defeats of all time in the past two seasons – a 112 point drubbing at the hands of Fremantle in 2005 the most painful.

Despite all this, Collingwood do have cause for optimism leading into a match which will be played even though temperatures are to tip the mercury at 38°.

At the selection table, the Magpies wisely opted to leave its veteran quartet of Nathan Buckley, Scott Burns, James Clement and Anthony Rocca at home – sparing them a hot autumn afternoon in Perth.

In their absence, it will be up to the experience of the super consistent midfield combination of Paul Licuria, Brodie Holland and Shane O’Bree to hold the fort.

They will look to lead the way for the youth of Dale Thomas and debutant Sam Iles – whose efforts were impressive in recent intra-club matches.

Joining them in the middle will be Alan Didak and Leon Davis. Both began their careers as opportunistic forwards, but after serving six and five respective seasons in the system, it is time they made inroads into the midfield.

The two spent the majority of Sunday’s meeting with the Saints in the engine room, where their class and leg speed were vital ingredients in matching the brilliance of the St.Kilda onballers.

The heat will make for hard work for all players – and Collingwood’s midfielders’ task will take on extra difficulty, the Dockers centreline boasting some quality footballers – with the likes of skipper Bell, Hasleby, Black, the Carr’s – Josh and Matthew – as well as its trump utility Matthew Pavlich set to cause headaches for Malthouse and his coaching panel.

It is likely that Holland will get first crack at tagging the silky skilled Heath Black, who made headlines in the off-season for the wrong reasons.

Holland will be primed to return to his old stomping ground, Subiaco Oval, where he began his league career with the Dockers back in 1998.

It will be interesting to see how the Pies cope with the strength of the Fremantle midfield – arguably one of the strongest in the competition.

An area Collingwood does have the advantage in is its forward power. Although Rocca will be absent, they still possess Chris Tarrant, Josh Fraser and Travis Cloke – all of whom alone can win a match off their own boot.

Tarrant endured a match last week which was below his lofty standards. Watch for him to step up a notch this week, as he prepares for a round one assault on Adelaide when the season proper gets underway.

Fremantle, too, possess a much vaunted forward combination. The likes of Pavlich, Justin Longmuir and Luke McPharlin are explosive in their posts as key forwards, and on their day are able to decimate the opposition defenders.

McPharlin is the wildcard of the group. Blessed with brilliant speed and amazingly strong hands, the former Hawk rarely spills a marking opportunity.

Both McPharlin and Pavlich were on hand to demolish the Maggies the last time the two sides met in Perth.

Although Justin Longmuir was sidelined with a thigh complaint, McPharlin and Pavlich combined for 11 majors between them, teaming to annihilate a limp Collingwood line-up by a massive 112 points.

At ground level, the Dockers are always a better side when its crumbers – Paul Medhurst and Jeff Farmer – lurk near goal.

Both have caused Collingwood a great deal of trouble in past encounters; not many of the Collingwood faithful have forgotten Farmer’s destruction of the Magpies defence back in 2000.

On a cool afternoon, Farmer, still in his Demon days, scored nine second half goals – ripping the heart out of Collingwood’s season.

It is likely that he and Medhurst will be heavily tagged – the reliable Tarkyn Lockyer and potentially Iles to receive early opportunities.

In the wash up, the Dockers – suited best to their home turf – should account in comfortable fashion for a Collingwood side still short of its best line up.

However, if the Magpies midfield is able to break even with its counterparts and the tall forward line of Tarrant, Fraser and Travis Cloke can fire – a victory is very much within the realism of possibility.

Prediction: Fremantle by 24 points.

Stephen2
5 Mar 2006, 11:51
What kind of coverage is available??? Anyone know?

Go Collingwood! I want them to win, as I hate them, so logically I want the Crows to play them and beat them!

Lonie_from_50
5 Mar 2006, 11:53
LIVE ON FOXTEL from 7pm AEDT

Prediction: Dockers by 46 pts

Reveler
5 Mar 2006, 12:31
will be listening to 6PR live on the net...

Not sure who to pick but I feel the dockers may just get up.

Coin_Toss
5 Mar 2006, 12:53
I was confident about our chances, without Rocca, I don't know.

Mick's mindgames or Connolly's cattle? Will be interesting viewing...

W.C. Fry
5 Mar 2006, 15:00
The AFL has got to be joking - a day game in close to 40 degree heat is just plain silly. Hope all the players get thru the game safely.

Tip - freo to get to a 3-4 goal lead early, then from there just do enough to hold that lead without running themselves into exhaustion.

Kapow!!!
5 Mar 2006, 15:39
I was confident about our chances, without Rocca, I don't know.

Mick's mindgames or Connolly's cattle? Will be interesting viewing...

To be honest I thought Mick's Mindgame attempt was petty and pointless. I'd be extremely worried if any coach, let alone CC, let an article like that affect them.

I'll say this like I've always said. If we lose I'll be mortified, horrified and absolutely livid but unfortunately not suprised.

Armageddon
5 Mar 2006, 17:45
To be honest I thought Mick's Mindgame attempt was petty and pointless. I'd be extremely worried if any coach, let alone CC, let an article like that affect them.

I'll say this like I've always said. If we lose I'll be mortified, horrified and absolutely livid but unfortunately not suprised.
:D YEah Freo will do that to you.

Would be great if we win but it is meant to be very very hot. I expect a good game though, and if we win a morale booster yet again which will start our season off on a huge high.

GO PIES!

guess_who
5 Mar 2006, 18:07
I'm listening to it on 6PR on the net, with special comments fromt he one and only Woey... must be bleedin... Go the pies

Johnson#26
5 Mar 2006, 18:33
From Pies_Chat:

Collingwood 1 1 0 1 16
Fremantle 0 3 0 2 20

Subiaco
22 m. 1st Quarter

Current time: 7:33 pm
5/3/2006 (AEST)

Goalkickers

Davis 2

Kapow!!!
5 Mar 2006, 18:38
Two different sides from those who played last week. All sides lazy and lackluster. Freo more so in the first quarter. Put it down to heat, the fact it's the pre-season comp or both but it wasn't the greatest of first quarters of football skill wise.

crane
5 Mar 2006, 18:49
Fremantle - 0.4.3...27
Collingwood - 1.1.2...17

crane
5 Mar 2006, 18:53
Frem 33
Coll 23

Johnson#26
5 Mar 2006, 18:56
Collingwood 1 3 0 2 29
Fremantle 0 5 0 4 34

Subiaco
13 m. 2nd Quarter

Current time: 7:56 pm
5/3/2006 (AEST)

Goalkickers

Davis 3 Fraser

goalpie
5 Mar 2006, 18:58
The AFL must be stupid to keep playing games in that heat. Would serve them right if a player sued them.

Dissapointed Rocca and Tarrant arnt playing. Hardly any good players playing in the collingwood side.:thumbsd:

goalpie
5 Mar 2006, 19:03
The AFL must be stupid to keep playing games in that heat. Would serve them right if a player sued them.

Dissapointed Rocca and Tarrant arnt playing. Hardly any good players playing in the collingwood side.:thumbsd:

Tarrant just kicked a goal you idiot.

goalpie
5 Mar 2006, 19:04
Tarrant just kicked a goal you idiot.

But the AFL stats end at Stanley.

goalpie
5 Mar 2006, 19:05
But the AFL stats end at Stanley.

Thats because its a crap website run by crappy Telstra.

crane
5 Mar 2006, 19:05
Its not as hot as people are saying. Its not very hot at all. Id say about 30C

crane
5 Mar 2006, 19:08
Frem 47
Coll 35

Kapow!!!
5 Mar 2006, 19:16
@rsey goal by Tarrant brings it back to 6 points at Half Time. Without bias I can say we haven't played the best but we'd probably deserved to be about 18 up instead of 6.

I wouldn't listen to Gerrard Healy either, Thornton, Hayden, Hadrill & Polak are missing from our defence along with the mentioned Bell and Headland so we're not at full strength and anyone caught saying so will indeed be shut down.

Umpires paying very soft free kicks if I've ever seen them again. Freo hard at football giving away more frees when (again trying to be without bias) Freo are just playing good hard at it footy.

Cloke being the spare man playing well, what changes?

Pavlich rusty...hasn't really had an impact. The man on him (27, forget his name) playing well but I wouldn't put it as anything to write home about.

Pessimistic report for a so far pessimistic game.

lucas_hsv
5 Mar 2006, 19:19
Thats because its a crap website run by crappy Telstra.

Theres a small (not real small, actually) arrow saying 'scroll down'...sorry to beat you to this one...

JeffDunne
5 Mar 2006, 19:21
Hardly any good players playing in the collingwood side.:thumbsd:
:thumbsu:

Amen.

FIGJAM
5 Mar 2006, 19:22
goalpie, are you talking to yourself??? :confused:

Total Power
5 Mar 2006, 19:25
goalpie, are you talking to yourself??? :confused:
:D i just noticed that! GOLD!

HorseHead
5 Mar 2006, 19:29
But the AFL stats end at Stanley.Click the "scroll down" button a few times and Tarrant's stats magically appear... ;)

Stephen2
5 Mar 2006, 19:45
But the AFL stats end at Stanley.
Haha, classic.. Good ol' Collingwood supporter intelligence quotient coming out there.

zero
5 Mar 2006, 19:50
sounds like an awesome game, 18 goals to the mid 3rd quarter, every time it looks like freo are going to kick away collingwood dig deep and drag it back. its been goal for goal since quarter time

it could be a fitness issue now! whos going to keep up the intensity longest?

Tinko
5 Mar 2006, 19:51
score check please? dont have foxtel and afl.com live stats won't open

Kapow!!!
5 Mar 2006, 19:53
Collingwood hit the front and it's official, we suck :(

Johnson#26
5 Mar 2006, 20:01
Dockers now by 8 points, almost 3/4 Time

Murray
5 Mar 2006, 20:04
Tarrant just kicked a goal you idiot.
I suppose when you are arguing with yourself, you can never lose!!!

zero
5 Mar 2006, 20:04
sandilands 24 hitouts to fraser and richards combined for 8....

campbell
5 Mar 2006, 20:04
Goodness me.it sure as heck pays to critise the rules changes, onya Mick.You own these guys this week. That Medhurst free was a disgrace.

Kapow!!!
5 Mar 2006, 20:04
F*** off that mark was in the field of play :mad:

He hit the post but he still should never have had the shot. 7 Points at three quarter time

Murray
5 Mar 2006, 20:09
Goodness me.it sure as heck pays to critise the rules changes, onya Mick.You own these guys this week. That Medhurst free was a disgrace.
Oh, I get it - you think the Umpires introduced the rule changes

JeffDunne
5 Mar 2006, 20:10
Very entertaining game.

Carey's been at Collingwood 5 minutes and he's as biased as Ed. They must be paying him well.

And boy, can that Thomas kid play or what?

Murray
5 Mar 2006, 20:13
Very entertaining game.

Carey's been at Collingwood 5 minutes and he's as biased as Ed. They must be paying him well.

And boy, can that Thomas kid play or what?
Yep
$100K
Yep

Limbach_19
5 Mar 2006, 20:21
scores?

Docker_Brat
5 Mar 2006, 20:21
scores?

Dockers 99
Pies 78

campbell
5 Mar 2006, 20:24
Totally pathetic commentary by Grybas and Carey.

Kapow!!!
5 Mar 2006, 20:26
Schammer wasn't even off?!

Freo: 99
Coll: 84

Limbach_19
5 Mar 2006, 20:27
Dockers 99
Pies 78
:mad: i was hoping Collingwood would win

Johnson#26
5 Mar 2006, 20:28
How? Bias? ;)

Woey's good value on 3AW. :D

Tinko
5 Mar 2006, 20:29
who's on farmer and pavlich?

campbell
5 Mar 2006, 20:29
Does anyone know what the temp is know for them
It can't be good to start the game in 38 temp.
Why do our administrators continue to play day games in Summer. Do they not have any clue?

Kapow!!!
5 Mar 2006, 20:29
Fremantle: 100
Collingwood: 84

campbell
5 Mar 2006, 20:31
Wow, Schofield is crap.

Kapow!!!
5 Mar 2006, 20:31
I know they must be buggered but Freo are just too relaxed, lazy and careless leading by 16 points with 5 minutes to go. I sense we'll lose this yet

Kapow!!!
5 Mar 2006, 20:33
Umpiring mistake and Grybas all over it. However it was there. Kick did go backwards and Mundy ran it out going back on the mark. Should've been a throw-in

London-Tavern-Is-Filth
5 Mar 2006, 20:33
Does anyone know what the temp is know for them
It can't be good to start the game in 38 temp.
Why do our administrators continue to play day games in Summer. Do they not have any clue?

Since When Was Summer in March

Drizt
5 Mar 2006, 20:34
i think the woods are running out of time....

fremantle home..

Drizt
5 Mar 2006, 20:34
Since When Was Summer in March


1 week out of summer... come on.. being pedantic

campbell
5 Mar 2006, 20:35
Since When Was Summer in March


Goodness me, 5 days.
Melbourne hottest days are normally in March.

Kapow!!!
5 Mar 2006, 20:37
I can't say I've ever been so annoyed and disheartened with a win in my life. And it's only in the NAB cup

Johnson#26
5 Mar 2006, 20:39
Gawn. Ah well. Fun while it lasted.

Much to like.

jimmy_clement#8
5 Mar 2006, 20:40
mmm, where we playing next week, anyone know?

carn_the_cattas
5 Mar 2006, 20:42
So, we'll be playing the Dockers next week. Should be at the Telstra Dome. If its at Subiaco it would be very unfair.

campbell
5 Mar 2006, 20:44
So, we'll be playing the Dockers next week. Should be at the Telstra Dome. If its at Subiaco it would be very unfair.

they said it was the dome on Saturday night.

Kapow!!!
5 Mar 2006, 20:44
So, we'll be playing the Dockers next week. Should be at the Telstra Dome. If its at Subiaco it would be very unfair.

It is at Telstra Dome and if you don't manage to win that you should be shot after 1) Our performance today 2) The fact we've now played two games under 35+ degree heat.

Kahuna
5 Mar 2006, 20:46
Anyone know the final score? I know Freo won but by how much?.

Kapow!!!
5 Mar 2006, 20:54
100 vs 84 Freo by 16


NAB Cup Goals:

Freo = 34
Crows = 27
Cats = 26
Dees = 22


NAB Cup Overall Score

Freo = 227
Crows = 198
Cats= 184
Dees = 159

If Geelong win they're in a tight fight to host the Grand Final. If Melbourne win, unless Geelong win, they'll have to travel. If Fremantle win we're more than likely assured a Subi final unless Adelaide win and make up a 7 goal defecit

PIE-BOI
6 Mar 2006, 11:58
mmm, where we playing next week, anyone know?
At Princess Park vs Kangaroos

powerpies
6 Mar 2006, 13:07
great effort by the young pies, freo? going to hard early and will not get past the august hurdle.

Murray
6 Mar 2006, 13:53
great effort by the young pies, freo? going to hard early and will not get past the august hurdle.
and supposing we had won?

funkyfreo
6 Mar 2006, 14:24
Umpiring mistake and Grybas all over it. However it was there. Kick did go backwards and Mundy ran it out going back on the mark. Should've been a throw-in

If it was intentionally going back on the mark, under no pressure - surely it would havebeen deliberate OOB?

ohhhkid
7 Mar 2006, 17:55
great effort by the young pies, freo? going to hard early and will not get past the august hurdle.
Lol poor kid I'm sure that you would be upset if your team lost, we will see what the rest of the year is like, its almost impossiable to predict what the season will turn out like.

Kapow!!!
7 Mar 2006, 20:29
great effort by the young pies, freo? going to hard early and will not get past the august hurdle.

Have we slipped into an alternate universe into which your opinion actually matters? Or should infact be listened to for that matter?

Armageddon
7 Mar 2006, 20:42
Have we slipped into an alternate universe into which your opinion actually matters? Or should infact be listened to for that matter?
Wow Kapow is really toughening up on his opinion though powerpies that was a real stupied comment

Cassius_Clay
9 Mar 2006, 09:19
I can't say I've ever been so annoyed and disheartened with a win in my life. And it's only in the NAB cup
Have a bloody whinge.