Golden Rivers FL

[switch the play]

Speaking to Murrabits main mover and shaker R Ash last night at the tavern and he tells me the 'Bit have just about got Dwayne Guerra over the line as A/C.
My apoligies boys just spoken to dwayne and this is incorrect.Apparently they have a regular game of snooker out there for years and that is the standing bet.Dwayne is yet to be beaten so he remains a raider:D:D

[On the track]

still in canada for another few months, then back playing footy cant wait. get up the swannies. who is the new coach and players, any good?

this year will be a close one at the top of the ladder i think.
Lee Anderson Coach Corey Campbell & Kane Evans (Chubbs Brother) as Assistants looking very good at the minute should be a good year so hurry up and get your arse home. All the other boys coming are handy players and will definitely hold their own plenty of celebrating this year hopefully I'm sure that will disappoint you LOL:)

[On the track]

Just looked at the GRFL Website & saw all of Moulamein 10 recruits all put there clearances in to go to Moula, but they have lost there best Footballer is Josh Logan who goin back to Geelong.. ( The only bad thing lets hope some of there locals still get a game, you just dont wana ditch them off and play the 2s)
True a sad day losing Josh but all good things come to an end. But out of our ten recruits 3 are locals Evans Bannam and Williams one is coming to play reserves so there will be positions for those willing to make the effort.

[The Messenger]

this year is not the first time macorna have tipped themselves to be big improvers. Seems to be the norm this time of year.

I haven't heard any Macorna people talking themselves up as big improvers. I think Murrabit are the team to beat and Moula are doing the goods by the looks of things but I think everybody else should be going in confident they can make finals. If your not confident at this time of year then your in for a very long season.

I think Macorna people predicted last year that they would have a very tough year but performed better than expected. There is a long time between now and round 1 lets just see what clubs can pick up between now and then.

[bernard the bipolar bear]

Good work paulkelly. I see things a little different, this is what I think.

Murrabit (very similar to last year, they need to recruit a ruckman to cover Coulter but I'm sure they will find one, solid all over the ground espeically in the middle were Hein, Morton, Millard and co just keep doing the job)

Macorna (my team so I may be biased but having not lost anyone from last years team and already having 6-7 good players confirmed, including Metro, should have a good year, lots of good talls in Cocks, Walker, Metro, Maso, Roberts but may lack a little leg speed but the recruiters are aware of this and hopefully the problem has been addressed)

Quamby (were very unlucky with injuries last year and I think they will be really solid this year, again they have a lot of good talls with Chopper, Spear, Coote, the Demaria's and Mark Free and Holty back into there midfield should help)

Moulamein (will be better than last year and they weren't far away in 07, picked up some good KPP and will be solid down the spine but there midfield will miss the Geelong guys, Logan and Obrein will be hard to replace)

Nully (with a few losses from last years team they may fall back a little, they will pick up a few solid players like they always do and any team with Smithy will be competitive, need to find some talls and most importantly a ruckman, may see Doran back kicking goals at senior level)

Wandella (my big slider at this stage but this depends on what Mick Bott, Laids, Chubby and Jimmy Pay decide, a few retirements and a few all ready leaving I think the Bombers are only a few injuries from a tough year, will be interesting to see if Wilson brings any players with him)

Ultima (have heard Nooka will do the job again but with a few losses already and talk of more to come they could have some trouble, need to find some talls to replace McKenzie, Wilson, Fingers and Mule, there midfield will still be solid with Lawry, Kelly and co)

Wakool (in a bit of trouble having not appointed a coach and with mass departures they will struggle, they should look to appoint a local coach and try to entice some of the locals to return, time to start the rebuild and that's done by looking after your locals)

Hay (the great unknown, yet to appoint a coach but maybe they have something in mind up north that know body knows about, would still need to recruit at least 10-12 senior players to be competitive so at this stage should be holding up the ladder again)

I think positions from 2 - 6 could go anyway at this stage, I think the only certainties will be that Murrabit will be somewhere near the pointy end and Ultima, Wakool and Hay may have a tough year.

These are all very early predictions and I'm sure many will disagree but know one really knows until round 1 who is playing where. There is a long way until the season starts and in our comp if you can snag 2-3 really good footballers it can move you up 2-3 places on the ladder.

We will just have to wait and see.

I haven't heard any Macorna people talking themselves up as big improvers. I think Murrabit are the team to beat and Moula are doing the goods by the looks of things but I think everybody else should be going in confident they can make finals. If your not confident at this time of year then your in for a very long season.

I think Macorna people predicted last year that they would have a very tough year but performed better than expected. There is a long time between now and round 1 lets just see what clubs can pick up between now and then.

Your a Macorna person, and i beleive tipping your club to finish top two is talking them up to be big improvers.

[The Messenger]

Your a Macorna person, and i beleive tipping your club to finish top two is talking them up to be big improvers.

Like I said at this time of year every team should be confident about the coming year and these predictions were before clearances had openned. I also talked up Murrabit, Moula and Quamby. I'll do another prediction closer to the season but I would say Moula has already moved ahead of Macorna and Quamby may have slipped a little in my mind. Nully may move up a couple of spots to.

My main reason for tipping Macorna to finish top 2 was because of other teams percieved slide down the ladder (Wakool, Wandella and Nully were all suspected to lose a lot of players) but we won't know this until more clearances start coming in. So I predicted that Macorna will be fairly similar to last year (not big improvers) but I think a few teams may slide.

[thatsthethingboutfootball]

Ultima (have heard Nooka will do the job again but with a few losses already and talk of more to come they could have some trouble, need to find some talls to replace McKenzie, Wilson, Fingers and Mule, there midfield will still be solid with Lawry, Kelly and co)

Wilson and Mule Cleary arent going anywhere

Lawry, Broussard, Mackenzie, Fingers, Rodgers and Boyd are the ones that wont be around with the last two maybe back for the latter part of the year

[The Messenger]

Any news from the league meeting regarding teams not feilding reserve sides. I know some other leagues are looking at taking 4 points from the senior team every time a club fails to feild either a reserves or U17's team. Is this something our league has considered or are they going to continue to allow clubs not to feild sides unpunished.

Also any news from the meeting about how clubs are shaping up on and off the ground for 08.

[Appin Vet]

Any news from the league meeting regarding teams not feilding reserve sides. I know some other leagues are looking at taking 4 points from the senior team every time a club fails to feild either a reserves or U17's team. Is this something our league has considered or are they going to continue to allow clubs not to feild sides unpunished.

Also any news from the meeting about how clubs are shaping up on and off the ground for 08.

Absolulutely moronic. Where are these leagues situated??

[The Messenger]

Absolulutely moronic. Where are these leagues situated??

I have heard that Heathcote and District FL had this in place last year and penalised some teams under the rule for not feilding U17's teams. Also heard that Loddon Valley FL is considering the same thing this year.

[Appin Vet]

I have heard that Heathcote and District FL had this in place last year and penalised some teams under the rule for not feilding U17's teams. Also heard that Loddon Valley FL is considering the same thing this year.

Alot closer than I thought. I would think that would be usable in leagues based aroung regional centres or Melbourne. Not the bush.

[Nackas]

I have heard that Heathcote and District FL had this in place last year and penalised some teams under the rule for not feilding U17's teams. Also heard that Loddon Valley FL is considering the same thing this year.

Main topic of discussion at the meeting was where people stood on fielding a reserves team. Wakool, Quamby and Hay stated that they were going to struggle greatly in fielding a team, which would result in Murrabit having 6 weeks without reserves footy if this was the case. A few suggestions were thrown around eg Seniors play 16 and 2 benches to field a 2nds but nothing was finalised.
Sad times really for these clubs, especially for Wakool! Fair fall from grace really, maybe spending a hell of a lot of cash has come to back to haunt them.

[TEE-R-OTTER]

Any news from the league meeting regarding teams not feilding reserve sides. I know some other leagues are looking at taking 4 points from the senior team every time a club fails to feild either a reserves or U17's team. Is this something our league has considered or are they going to continue to allow clubs not to feild sides unpunished.

Also any news from the meeting about how clubs are shaping up on and off the ground for 08.

League stuffed up last year allowing Hay to get away with what they did last year, soft.
Yes there needs to be some sort of penalty for sure, start to lose your seconds and you start to lose your club.
4 points from seniors great idea, might not worry Hay and Wakool though
$1000 a game might make em' try a bit harder to get em out there, but then that's only half what Harvey was on!

Extreme case you would need 9-10 seconds + few 3rds + a couple of seniors = team to play

Dunolly used to have 8 seniors run out on the ground b/c the others were already out there from the 2's. Sure they didn't win but at least a game was played, the opposing club was supported, money was made over the bar and the club survived!

No point spending big money on recruits if there is no club to come to in the future...

[The Messenger]

League stuffed up last year allowing Hay to get away with what they did last year, soft.
Yes there needs to be some sort of penalty for sure, start to lose your seconds and you start to lose your club.
4 points from seniors great idea, might not worry Hay and Wakool though
$1000 a game might make em' try a bit harder to get em out there, but then that's only half what Harvey was on!

Extreme case you would need 9-10 seconds + few 3rds + a couple of seniors = team to play

Dunolly used to have 8 seniors run out on the ground b/c the others were already out there from the 2's. Sure they didn't win but at least a game was played, the opposing club was supported, money was made over the bar and the club survived!

No point spending big money on recruits if there is no club to come to in the future...

You make some very good points, maybe some of these clubs that are really struggling should offer local kids and border line players from other clubs $50 - $100 bucks a game to get them out on the feild for them rather than paying 3 or 4 guys $400 or $500 a game. You may have a few lean years but clubs need to survive and our league needs to survive and if you don't have a reserves comp this won't happen.

If they allow reserve games to be played with 14 a side I can't see why teams can't get the numbers. Like Tee said if you can get 6-8 2's players which every club could get 3-4 3's players, 3-4 1's players and maybe borrow a couple from the opposition you can have yourself a game.

The league should have come down hard on Hay last year because now they have set a presidence which other clubs feel they can get away with the same thing.

[bernard the bipolar bear]

You make some very good points, maybe some of these clubs that are really struggling should offer local kids and border line players from other clubs $50 - $100 bucks a game to get them out on the feild for them rather than paying 3 or 4 guys $400 or $500 a game. You may have a few lean years but clubs need to survive and our league needs to survive and if you don't have a reserves comp this won't happen.

If they allow reserve games to be played with 14 a side I can't see why teams can't get the numbers. Like Tee said if you can get 6-8 2's players which every club could get 3-4 3's players, 3-4 1's players and maybe borrow a couple from the opposition you can have yourself a game.

The league should have come down hard on Hay last year because now they have set a presidence which other clubs feel they can get away with the same thing.

We simply cannot have three clubs not field a twos side. It would not only destroy the league, but destroy every club. If it goes through, how long until every club in the league only has one side? How many people would be lost from the other clubs?

This may sound harsh, but it should not be negoitable. To be a part of the league, you should need to field both grades.

[Footy Pie]

You make some very good points, maybe some of these clubs that are really struggling should offer local kids and border line players from other clubs $50 - $100 bucks a game to get them out on the feild for them rather than paying 3 or 4 guys $400 or $500 a game. You may have a few lean years but clubs need to survive and our league needs to survive and if you don't have a reserves comp this won't happen.

If they allow reserve games to be played with 14 a side I can't see why teams can't get the numbers. Like Tee said if you can get 6-8 2's players which every club could get 3-4 3's players, 3-4 1's players and maybe borrow a couple from the opposition you can have yourself a game.

The league should have come down hard on Hay last year because now they have set a presidence which other clubs feel they can get away with the same thing.

Sorry messenger cant agree with the concept of paying kids. Kids are kids, there supposed to play footy for the love of the game, teach them 2 b greedy now and it will go on. I'm in agreeance with Bear tho, teams should have to field two senior teams to be in the league. For example, last year when Hay didnt field a 2's team it just ruined the day, ppl didnt know what 2 do!!!! Crowds were minimal, hard to function socially as no one is around. Reserves footy is a must as far as i see it!!!

[CHINA]

Sorry messenger cant agree with the concept of paying kids. Kids are kids, there supposed to play footy for the love of the game, teach them 2 b greedy now and it will go on. I'm in agreeance with Bear tho, teams should have to field two senior teams to be in the league. For example, last year when Hay didnt field a 2's team it just ruined the day, ppl didnt know what 2 do!!!! Crowds were minimal, hard to function socially as no one is around. Reserves footy is a must as far as i see it!!!

I brought this very point up earlier this year....It is only goin to disadvantage the clubs with the numbers for both sides the most, which isnt rite...I think the first step should be to make 2nds sides 16 a side with a possible 4-5 on the bench..They do this in a district league in yarrawonga for years and said it works great cos the footy is cleaner-with more room and dont need as many numbers...But the teams with the numbers aren't disadvantages due to the larger bench...interested to know your thoughts....and in finals it goes back to 18 a side!!!

[foxdoog50]

I brought this very point up earlier this year....It is only goin to disadvantage the clubs with the numbers for both sides the most, which isnt rite...I think the first step should be to make 2nds sides 16 a side with a possible 4-5 on the bench..They do this in a district league in yarrawonga for years and said it works great cos the footy is cleaner-with more room and dont need as many numbers...But the teams with the numbers aren't disadvantages due to the larger bench...interested to know your thoughts....and in finals it goes back to 18 a side!!!


I think I have to agree with ya China!! Its sad, but the numbers are just not around with Country footy. As much as I dont want to, but It will have to happend. Like Messenger saying a while ago, Money in Country Footy is buggering up the sport:(

[the juggernaut]

I brought this very point up earlier this year....It is only goin to disadvantage the clubs with the numbers for both sides the most, which isnt rite...I think the first step should be to make 2nds sides 16 a side with a possible 4-5 on the bench..They do this in a district league in yarrawonga for years and said it works great cos the footy is cleaner-with more room and dont need as many numbers...But the teams with the numbers aren't disadvantages due to the larger bench...interested to know your thoughts....and in finals it goes back to 18 a side!!!

yep i agree also. watching the twos games some weeks and it almost could pass for an under 12s game. just a huddle of players around where ever the ball is. more on the bench so the veterans could have a break if needed of course. and the teams that make finals will then field a full 18 players a team. makes good sense i think. no less than 16 a side though!

[the juggernaut]

Has anyone heard of the practice matches organised this season. which teams and what leagues are they from?

[melbdocker]

hey guys i'm from down melb way but used to know a couple of guys who play at murrabit, are they good things to go back to back?
where is shane harvey running around in 08?

[Bombmurr]

time will tell, they seem to of kept onto most of there list from last year and picked up a few so you would think they would definately would be finals contenders. But that is without knowing how other teams have recruited. Who were the fella's you knew from Murrabit?, did you play there?.

[melbdocker]

nah i went to myall prim school for a few yrs and went there wit the heins. but always looked to see how they were going every week, havent been up there in yrs now bit hard playing myself

[marty sanders]

i think its great that moula have picked up local talent. they could not be successful in my views if they were to rely on the geelong lads every week. hopefully now they van get numbers to traing and practice match situations. one player will make no difference, no matter how talented.

First time writer. Long time reader of this site. I think Moulamein will do very well this yr with the recruits they are going to get and will push for the finals for sure. Josh Logan is a big loss for the club and if one player doesn't make a difference how would Wakool have gone without Harvey? I've read someone asking about pracco's. Is there any and are the grounds in good nick?

[Snibs]

League stuffed up last year allowing Hay to get away with what they did last year, soft.
Yes there needs to be some sort of penalty for sure, start to lose your seconds and you start to lose your club.
4 points from seniors great idea, might not worry Hay and Wakool though
$1000 a game might make em' try a bit harder to get em out there, but then that's only half what Harvey was on!

Extreme case you would need 9-10 seconds + few 3rds + a couple of seniors = team to play

Dunolly used to have 8 seniors run out on the ground b/c the others were already out there from the 2's. Sure they didn't win but at least a game was played, the opposing club was supported, money was made over the bar and the club survived!

No point spending big money on recruits if there is no club to come to in the future...
I doubt this would be your stance if the shoe was on the other foot.

It may be difficult for you to understand being from Murrabit, but some clubs are struggling big time to field reserves and I can assure you its not through a lack of trying!

[facts_rite]

I doubt this would be your stance if the shoe was on the other foot.

It may be difficult for you to understand being from Murrabit, but some clubs are struggling big time to field reserves and I can assure you its not through a lack of trying!

Every clubs having the same problem but i cant see a successful league without ppl fielding seconds.
Last yr when we played Hay it was a terrible day without the 2's, and honestly cant see the league functioning without 2nds!
If 2 or 3 clubs cant field a reserves, then the likes of Murrabit will lose players to Kerang, and we'll lose bendigo n swan hill blokes therefore 2's footy will be non existant!!!!

[Trent the flight Steward]

Ash Wilson must be making a good first impression out at bomberland judging by clearances and the quality of players leaving

[Trent the flight Steward]

Every clubs having the same problem but i cant see a successful league without ppl fielding seconds.
Last yr when we played Hay it was a terrible day without the 2's, and honestly cant see the league functioning without 2nds!
If 2 or 3 clubs cant field a reserves, then the likes of Murrabit will lose players to Kerang, and we'll lose bendigo n swan hill blokes therefore 2's footy will be non existant!!!!
Clubs may have to fill bus loads of guys from bendigo to make the numbers as most teams around bendigo get 50+ attend trainings pre season

[TEE-R-OTTER]

I doubt this would be your stance if the shoe was on the other foot.

It may be difficult for you to understand being from Murrabit, but some clubs are struggling big time to field reserves and I can assure you its not through a lack of trying!

Mate it's not a case of what club you are from the league would suffer not just the opposing clubs. We cannot afford to allow clubs not field a reserve team.

Murrabit hasn't always been as fortunate as it is now, in the 80's numbers were low, perfomance was low but the club survived. So i do understand, try harder.

[bernard the bipolar bear]

I doubt this would be your stance if the shoe was on the other foot.

It may be difficult for you to understand being from Murrabit, but some clubs are struggling big time to field reserves and I can assure you its not through a lack of trying!

What do you think should happen Snibs?

[Snibs]

Mate it's not a case of what club you are from the league would suffer not just the opposing clubs. We cannot afford to allow clubs not field a reserve team.

Murrabit hasn't always been as fortunate as it is now, in the 80's numbers were low, perfomance was low but the club survived. So i do understand, try harder.
I agree it's a terrible thing for the league. I can tell you that being prominently involved in one of the clubs in this position is not a nice feeling, cannot pull players out of thin air.
It's important people understand the seriousness of the issue, it's not about trying harder, players are either around or their not.
The likelihood of clubs folding/merging including my club is very real, and sooner than you think. We will feild seconds this year, but there are no guarantees beyond that for seconds footy or the club in general.

[Snibs]

What do you think should happen Snibs?
I think unless several football playing families move to the area, or a bus load of players turns up on our doorstep, or we get 15 inches during the growing season and have plenty of cash to splash around then the future of our club and that of a few others is very uncertain beyond this season.

[Cable Tie]

I think unless several football playing families move to the area, or a bus load of players turns up on our doorstep, or we get 15 inches during the growing season and have plenty of cash to splash around then the future of our club and that of a few others is very uncertain beyond this season.

Maybe clubs need to have a look at who they are paying and how much they pay them?
Instead of getting a player for $600 spend $150 on four of them to boost the player numbers.

[Snibs]

Maybe clubs need to have a look at who they are paying and how much they pay them?
Instead of getting a player for $600 spend $150 on four of them to boost the player numbers.
If you can name any senior footballers, barring locals, who are prepared to travel over 70kms, 140km round trip twice a week as week as well as play on Saturdays and travel as far as Hay, whom are prepared to do this for $150 a week then let me know. Trust me they don't exist and we'd rather fold than pay seconds players to secure 2 sides.
Once upon a time this may have been possible but why would someone do this travelling when they can get $300 up the road as an average player in a major league.

[TEE-R-OTTER]

If you can name any senior footballers, barring locals, who are prepared to travel over 70kms, 140km round trip twice a week as week as well as play on Saturdays and travel as far as Hay, whom are prepared to do this for $150 a week then let me know. Trust me they don't exist and we'd rather fold than pay seconds players to secure 2 sides.
Once upon a time this may have been possible but why would someone do this travelling when they can get $300 up the road as an average player in a major league.

Yeah Quamby has a habit of getting these sort of players out there...

[Snibs]

Yeah Quamby has a habit of getting these sort of players out there...
Think you have missed my point. Stating that you will never get 4 players for $600 if they are any good doing that amount of travel. If they are resonable players they would get double this at a club just round the corner eg Swan Hill based, with the additional lure of playing major league football. Murrabit and Wandella to some extent have been blessed with good quantities of local talent and may never experience the problems that other clubs have when it comes to recruiting.
But there's no need to take a cheap shot Tee, it's common knowledge that Murrabit were the highest bidder for Kingwell last year, so your still spending plenty.

[TEE-R-OTTER]

Think you have missed my point. Stating that you will never get 4 players for $600 if they are any good doing that amount of travel. If they are resonable players they would get double this at a club just round the corner eg Swan Hill based, with the additional lure of playing major league football. Murrabit and Wandella to some extent have been blessed with good quantities of local talent and may never experience the problems that other clubs have when it comes to recruiting.
But there's no need to take a cheap shot Tee, it's common knowledge that Murrabit were the highest bidder for Kingwell last year, so your still spending plenty.

And you may have missed mine, to keep a club running we may have to stop paying big bucks for quality and look more at quantiy you dont have to pay seconds players if you have more senior players without a price on their heads. But having said that I do see your argument that there are not many up swan hill way without a high price on their head regardless of their talent.

[marty sanders]

And you may have missed mine, to keep a club running we may have to stop paying big bucks for quality and look more at quantiy you dont have to pay seconds players if you have more senior players without a price on their heads. But having said that I do see your argument that there are not many up swan hill way without a high price on their head regardless of their talent.

Before we get to carried away with whether teams will or will not field a reserves side this yr how are teams looking with numbers on the training track? Also why would players need to do 140 km round trips twice a week for training when if teams were fair dinkum about getting numbers and paying them training once would be enough. The team i used to play for Moulamein - I think half of us only training once or not at all (especially as a team) and got really good numbers to games.

[Trent the flight Steward]

And you may have missed mine, to keep a club running we may have to stop paying big bucks for quality and look more at quantiy you dont have to pay seconds players if you have more senior players without a price on their heads. But having said that I do see your argument that there are not many up swan hill way without a high price on their head regardless of their talent.

where do these players get the notion that they are worth so much money for 2 hours of effort on a saturday, what they are doing is putting clubs into recess, where will they get payed these prices then when there is no club left

[super snooper]

Think you have missed my point. Stating that you will never get 4 players for $600 if they are any good doing that amount of travel. If they are resonable players they would get double this at a club just round the corner eg Swan Hill based, with the additional lure of playing major league football. Murrabit and Wandella to some extent have been blessed with good quantities of local talent and may never experience the problems that other clubs have when it comes to recruiting.
But there's no need to take a cheap shot Tee, it's common knowledge that Murrabit were the highest bidder for Kingwell last year, so your still spending plenty.

Woomelang were the highest bidder.

[Snibs]

Before we get to carried away with whether teams will or will not field a reserves side this yr how are teams looking with numbers on the training track? Also why would players need to do 140 km round trips twice a week for training when if teams were fair dinkum about getting numbers and paying them training once would be enough. The team i used to play for Moulamein - I think half of us only training once or not at all (especially as a team) and got really good numbers to games.
If players are being paid it is their obligation to train twice a week. Also helps with fitness they reckon.

[Snibs]

Woomelang were the highest bidder.
Correct. Murrabit second, Lalbert third, Quamby fourth.

[Snibs]

And you may have missed mine, to keep a club running we may have to stop paying big bucks for quality and look more at quantiy you dont have to pay seconds players if you have more senior players without a price on their heads. But having said that I do see your argument that there are not many up swan hill way without a high price on their head regardless of their talent.
Precisely

[Pickin a Winner]

Has anyone heard of the practice matches organised this season. which teams and what leagues are they from?

Murrabit are to play Mitiamo on the 15th of March, also having a run against Lake Boga on a Thursday night one week too.

[Pickin a Winner]

Ash Wilson must be making a good first impression out at bomberland judging by clearances and the quality of players leaving

Yes Trent, I see there is quite a few. From their grand final side there is a half back flanker, two on-ballers and a bench player (being the best player out of the lot of em').:thumbsu:
All the talk of Bott into Kerang yet to be seen on paper the only posititive it would seem out at bomber land.:confused:

With all the clearances coming into Moula it would seem there is an abundance of players, the likes of Quamby, Kool and Hay should give a few of the moula boys a ring and try to get em out there. Almost a bloody new side up there in moultown!:D

http://www.grfl.vcfl.com.au/memdb_transfers.asp

[whatsit2u]

when clubs are recruiting players, do they ever look past the current year. clubs need to try and get players that will stay on, be involved with the club. these seem to be the guys who are a bit older and more often than not have families. these people seem to fit in better and therfore last longer, often ending up playing more as a local than an outsider. there are plenty of these players around, macorna, nully and murrabit seem to find them. where as other clubs pay big money for young guys, play for one year and get not much in return.
this maybe easier said than done, but it seems money better spent in the long run.

[Nackas]

Yes Trent, I see there is quite a few. From their grand final side there is a half back flanker, two on-ballers and a bench player (being the best player out of the lot of em').:thumbsu:
All the talk of Bott into Kerang yet to be seen on paper the only posititive it would seem out at bomber land.:confused:

With all the clearances coming into Moula it would seem there is an abundance of players, the likes of Quamby, Kool and Hay should give a few of the moula boys a ring and try to get em out there. Almost a bloody new side up there in moultown!:D

http://www.grfl.vcfl.com.au/memdb_transfers.asp

Well i hope the boys exiting the bombers remember to leave their ''choke'' chains out in the Salt Lake :thumbsu::thumbsu:

You'll also find that Harvey, Harrower, Kearney, Wheatley etc from out at Wakool haven't put any sort of clearances in either Pickin????

[head67]

AFL Practice game at the Narrandera Sports ground will be Sydney Vs Richmond.

[marty sanders]

With all the clearances coming into Moula it would seem there is an abundance of players, the likes of Quamby, Kool and Hay should give a few of the moula boys a ring and try to get em out there. Almost a bloody new side up there in moultown!:D

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Mate, not sure many Moula players would leave as they're pretty keen to win a premiership both in seniors and reserves. Knowing all the local boys they're down to earth and wouldn't care if they play seniors or reserves.

Saying that - Some of these clubs running short on numbers should have a chat to them as I could be completely wrong and no harm in trying.

I just had a look at the transfers and it will be a new Moulamein especialy if there all ones players. Hopefully everyone gets along like they did when I was there.

[marty sanders]

when clubs are recruiting players, do they ever look past the current year. clubs need to try and get players that will stay on, be involved with the club. these seem to be the guys who are a bit older and more often than not have families. these people seem to fit in better and therfore last longer, often ending up playing more as a local than an outsider. there are plenty of these players around, macorna, nully and murrabit seem to find them. where as other clubs pay big money for young guys, play for one year and get not much in return.
this maybe easier said than done, but it seems money better spent in the long run.

Easier said then done.... Players won't go to a club that isn't winning games so money needs to be paid initially to good players who may only stck around for a yr or 2 and most likely as Moula has this yr got a heap of players coming accross who hopefully will stick around now.

[danielkerr]

Think you have missed my point. Stating that you will never get 4 players for $600 if they are any good doing that amount of travel. If they are resonable players they would get double this at a club just round the corner eg Swan Hill based, with the additional lure of playing major league football. Murrabit and Wandella to some extent have been blessed with good quantities of local talent and may never experience the problems that other clubs have when it comes to recruiting.

I'd just like to know when the cmfl boys are going to take their heads out of their arses and realise they are not a major league....the major leagues are bendigo, ballarat, geelong, o&m and goulburn valley...cmfl is no more than the many middle range leagues...

[ROOTA#6]

I'd just like to know when the cmfl boys are going to take their heads out of their arses and realise they are not a major league....the major leagues are bendigo, ballarat, geelong, o&m and goulburn valley...cmfl is no more than the many middle range leagues...

Won't happen until the VCFL removes major league status from the CMFL which it won't and nor should it. It is easily the best league in the area and proved that it was a major league by winning the interleague match last year

[facts_rite]

Snibs, its bloody fantastic to see some names going thru Quamby way in the clearance page on the grfl site.
Sounded like u guys were struggling massively and to be able to pick up players at this time of year, whether fantastic footballers or not, is a credit to the club 4 not giving up and persisting with finding footballers. I take it with a few names coming thru then a reserves team will be go ahead?
Its a credit to everyone involved in the recruiting at the club, well done :thumbsu:

[Snibs]

Snibs, its bloody fantastic to see some names going thru Quamby way in the clearance page on the grfl site.
Sounded like u guys were struggling massively and to be able to pick up players at this time of year, whether fantastic footballers or not, is a credit to the club 4 not giving up and persisting with finding footballers. I take it with a few names coming thru then a reserves team will be go ahead?
Its a credit to everyone involved in the recruiting at the club, well done :thumbsu:
Thanks facts, seconds team never in doubt for this year.

[bernard the bipolar bear]

Thanks facts, seconds team never in doubt for this year.

Never in doubt?

[Snibs]

Never in doubt?
Ok, maybe slightly in doubt, never seriously threatened though. What is said publicly and what is known in the inner sanctum are not always the same.

[bernard the bipolar bear]

Ok, maybe slightly in doubt, never seriously threatened though. What is said publicly and what is known in the inner sanctum are not always the same.

well thats good news then. Only wakool and Hay to go.

[Trent the flight Steward]

Won't happen until the VCFL removes major league status from the CMFL which it won't and nor should it. It is easily the best league in the area and proved that it was a major league by winning the interleague match last year

But does anyone take any notice of interleague roota? Agree with kerr that the cmfl isnt a major league as the difference is the best 5 in each team to the owrst 5 is to great, which probably has to do with population around the league compared with others

[BIGHAWK30]

Can anytone tell me if that loud mouth, big noting, team mates wife rooting, low life Dion Rooke is still playing up there in GRFL. Got a few mates who wouldn't mind tracking him down!!

[head]

I'd just like to know when the cmfl boys are going to take their heads out of their arses and realise they are not a major league....the major leagues are bendigo, ballarat, geelong, o&m and goulburn valley...cmfl is no more than the many middle range leagues...

Wrong danielkerr. The top sides in the cmfl would easily rival the top sides in the bendigo and ballarat leagues, and be right up there in the other leagues. There may be a couple of weaker sides in the league but not many leagues don't have them, look at the likes of Kangaroo Flat. The cmfl has a lot of quality sides and deserves to be a major league.

[chookie5]

we cant judge on interleague. the players who didn't play interleague last year could have made a side that would have pushed the interleague side. balranald for instance only had 1 player in the interleague side. throw in their players alone like atkins, hooker, singh, dane fitzgerald, andy may and so on. everyone has their own opinion, but i believe cmfl is increasing standard, mainly due to the money clubs pay. its just unfortunate that the lalberts and nyahs cant afford to keep up, this then makes people think the league isn't as good

[the red white and black]

Absolulutely moronic. Where are these leagues situated??
No side in the HDFL was penalised under the rule that you mention (last year). The rule was established after a club won a seconds and seniors premiership in 2006 but failed to field a thirds side. Stated that they couldn't get enough players for their U17's. Obviously not an ideal situation for the league as you would think that every club would be pushing there juniors, and a many clubs were irate that this wasn't the case with the said club. Be certain that they had enough this for the season just gone.

[head]

Why can't we combine grfl with cmfl with two divisions. Top 2 sides go up, bottom 2 go down each year. The lower division only play 16 a side reserves. It would even out both compitions and I believe make both stronger. Teams in the cmfl who are having a few lean years could drop down and be competive. Most people would prefer to play in a lesser competion and win a few games rather then being smashed week after week, then when form returns they will be able to return back to the better comp. Those stronge teams with good numbers in the grfl wouldn't have to sacrife players missing games in a 16 (or less) reserves game.

[CHINA]

Why can't we combine grfl with cmfl with two divisions. Top 2 sides go up, bottom 2 go down each year. The lower division only play 16 a side reserves. It would even out both compitions and I believe make both stronger. Teams in the cmfl who are having a few lean years could drop down and be competive. Most people would prefer to play in a lesser competion and win a few games rather then being smashed week after week, then when form returns they will be able to return back to the better comp. Those stronge teams with good numbers in the grfl wouldn't have to sacrife players missing games in a 16 (or less) reserves game.

This was brought up years and years ago, and was knocked back by all concerned...Personally I believe a fantastic idea!!!!But will never happen..

[Wirra]

Could the Macorna crew give us some insite into Metro, wat position he will play at tigerland, height, weight,age, his strengths etc, apparintely got big raps this bloke, giv us some info so i no wether it will be worth goin out & watchin this bloke play this year

[danielkerr]

Wrong danielkerr. The top sides in the cmfl would easily rival the top sides in the bendigo and ballarat leagues, and be right up there in the other leagues. There may be a couple of weaker sides in the league but not many leagues don't have them, look at the likes of Kangaroo Flat. The cmfl has a lot of quality sides and deserves to be a major league.

in judging a leagues strength you have to look at the difference between a teams best listed player and a teams worst listed player in all clubs...a simple example of how a league like bendigo is superior. when the swan hill pios boys came back and played they dominated, when pios come back to a bendigo team they are fringe players or play reserves....

[Truck]

in judging a leagues strength you have to look at the difference between a teams best listed player and a teams worst listed player in all clubs...a simple example of how a league like bendigo is superior. when the swan hill pios boys came back and played they dominated, when pios come back to a bendigo team they are fringe players or play reserves....

Pretty sure South Bendigo pumped Tyntynder in a practice match a couple of years ago, when Breeza was head honcho, not to sure how Tyntynder went that year but their always there abouts arnt they. South were nothing real special made the prelim and got smashed by Gissy I think.

[Snibs]

This was brought up years and years ago, and was knocked back by all concerned...Personally I believe a fantastic idea!!!!But will never happen..
I dont mind the idea myself but it creates a problem.
Take Murrabit for example, based on last year they would go up to Division 1 where i think that amongst the CMFL sides they would finish middle of the road. This is likely to happen year in year out as they probably cant compete financially to win a Div 1 flag, yet have enough good players to ensure they don't finish bottom 2 and be relegated back to Div 2.
Therefore the likelihood is that they remain in Div 1 with no real hope of winning a flag.

[Nackas]

in judging a leagues strength you have to look at the difference between a teams best listed player and a teams worst listed player in all clubs...a simple example of how a league like bendigo is superior. when the swan hill pios boys came back and played they dominated, when pios come back to a bendigo team they are fringe players or play reserves....

The Swan Hill boys who came back barely dominated mate, the only bloke who looked half alrite was Thoolen but he was still not as good as the best in the league, and the man has now been drafted! But if your speakin like that how many of the Pios boys are actually from the Bendigo league??

[danielkerr]

The Swan Hill boys who came back barely dominated mate, the only bloke who looked half alrite was Thoolen but he was still not as good as the best in the league, and the man has now been drafted! But if your speakin like that how many of the Pios boys are actually from the Bendigo league??

last year there was atleast ten players from the bendigo league...there were 5 alone from sandhurst...and the like of fordy and stroobs did dominate when they came back...

[bernard the bipolar bear]

I dont mind the idea myself but it creates a problem.
Take Murrabit for example, based on last year they would go up to Division 1 where i think that amongst the CMFL sides they would finish middle of the road. This is likely to happen year in year out as they probably cant compete financially to win a Div 1 flag, yet have enough good players to ensure they don't finish bottom 2 and be relegated back to Div 2.
Therefore the likelihood is that they remain in Div 1 with no real hope of winning a flag.

good point. Much the same as some other CMFL clubs.

[TEE-R-OTTER]

With the Night series a no goer, what are clubs doing for practice games? Any got matches lined up?
:confused:

[Trent the flight Steward]

Pretty sure South Bendigo pumped Tyntynder in a practice match a couple of years ago, when Breeza was head honcho, not to sure how Tyntynder went that year but their always there abouts arnt they. South were nothing real special made the prelim and got smashed by Gissy I think.
Yeah truck pretty sure that the dogs couldn't put through a major and this was with 3/4 quarter strength south team, whilst tytynder had all their regulars out on the field

[head]

Pretty sure South Bendigo pumped Tyntynder in a practice match a couple of years ago, when Breeza was head honcho, not to sure how Tyntynder went that year but their always there abouts arnt they. South were nothing real special made the prelim and got smashed by Gissy I think.

How can you even think to judge a league on the performance of a team during pre season.
An equally stronge opposing argument is that Kerang plays Eaglehawk most years during pre season and usually gets the better of them, and I'm pretty sure Eaglehawk aren't a bad bunch of players.

[Beez Kneez]

How can you even think to judge a league on the performance of a team during pre season.
An equally stronge opposing argument is that Kerang plays Eaglehawk most years during pre season and usually gets the better of them, and I'm pretty sure Eaglehawk aren't a bad bunch of players.

I thought this was the GRFL thread?

[Always Broke]

Who cares, if CMFL is a major league or not. Bottom line is, there are some great players getting good money in there league ( Which I have no problem with).
But most of the players are not worth half of what there getting and it's hurting our league because GRFL clubs have to pay big money to these players, just to get them to our clubs. Some of the clubs up there should be very careful, the cost of everything is only going oneway, and they might find out that forking out big coin year after year and getting no where might just kill there club.
I would hate to see that happen to the GRFL clubs. ( Although i think one of our clubs has spent five years worth of money in two.

[Big_Chill]

How does Damien Lipp and Chris Pask go. What sort of players, position and quality are they?

[bernard the bipolar bear]

How does Damien Lipp and Chris Pask go. What sort of players, position and quality are they?

Chris Pask is a gun. Doesn't look like a footballer, and doesn't look that good on the track, but dominates on saturdays. Generally plays down back and reads the play well, good set of hands.

[The Messenger]

Could the Macorna crew give us some insite into Metro, wat position he will play at tigerland, height, weight,age, his strengths etc, apparintely got big raps this bloke, giv us some info so i no wether it will be worth goin out & watchin this bloke play this year

Well worth the price of admission, when fit he was in the top half dozen footballers in the Bendigo League but has had a few injury concerns. Moving really well on the track this pre season so hopefully he has a solid year. My guess is he will start most games at CHF but he can play any where up the spine and also on ball. At the Slagheads he would play where ever the ball was if it was forward he was forward, if it was back he would go back and he would pinch hit on the ball. Personally I think his best work is done off the ground so if you plan to stay for a few beers after the game then you will really see him shine.

As for praccy's Macorna play Pyramid Hill on the 29th of March, always a fairly tight contest and will also have an inter club the following weekend.

[woof woof]

Who cares, if CMFL is a major league or not. Bottom line is, there are some great players getting good money in there league ( Which I have no problem with).
But most of the players are not worth half of what there getting and it's hurting our league because GRFL clubs have to pay big money to these players, just to get them to our clubs. Some of the clubs up there should be very careful, the cost of everything is only going oneway, and they might find out that forking out big coin year after year and getting no where might just kill there club.
I would hate to see that happen to the GRFL clubs. ( Although i think one of our clubs has spent five years worth of money in two.

which clubs in the CMFL are spending 5 years payments in one season?

[The Messenger]

which clubs in the CMFL are spending 5 years payments in one season?

He said a GRFL side did that not a CMFL side, goose. Enough Central Murray talk, go over to there board if you want to discuss CMFL crap.

Wandella have picked up a couple of boys from Miti, the Hay brothers. Anyone got any info on these guys, I think Brett missed most of last year with an injury, what positions do they play? Wandella really need to pick up some big bodied mids I would suggest.

[Dr Readaldabooks]

He said a GRFL side did that not a CMFL side, goose. Enough Central Murray talk, go over to there board if you want to discuss CMFL crap.

Wandella have picked up a couple of boys from Miti, the Hay brothers. Anyone got any info on these guys, I think Brett missed most of last year with an injury, what positions do they play? Wandella really need to pick up some big bodied mids I would suggest.

Yes and Will Callow has a set back with the stress fractures in his foot. Possibly requiring an operation i hear?
Is there any news out bomberland or the kerang golf course on the movements of Jamie Pay? Is he heading to Boort?

[foxdoog50]

Yes and Will Callow has a set back with the stress fractures in his foot. Possibly requiring an operation i hear?
Is there any news out bomberland or the kerang golf course on the movements of Jamie Pay? Is he heading to Boort?

I think u will see Jamie will be staying at Bomberland from all reports..

[blown budget]

the hay brothers from miti are pretty good. brett is a bigger body type midfielder always under the packs and hits packs hard. glen is a midfielder/back flank very fit and athletic and has great skills

[Always Broke]

Chris Pask is a gun. Doesn't look like a footballer, and doesn't look that good on the track, but dominates on saturdays. Generally plays down back and reads the play well, good set of hands.

:thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu: Great One Bear !! Keep up the good work.

[head]

Yes and Will Callow has a set back with the stress fractures in his foot. Possibly requiring an operation i hear?
Is there any news out bomberland or the kerang golf course on the movements of Jamie Pay? Is he heading to Boort?
Dr what type of operation fixes a stress fracture?

Will there be any players left at bomberland to even look like being a finals contender?
I also heard Chum requires surgery (correct me if I'm wrong someone).

[Dr Readaldabooks]

Dr what type of operation fixes a stress fracture?

Will there be any players left at bomberland to even look like being a finals contender?
I also heard Chum requires surgery (correct me if I'm wrong someone).

Head i'm not sure of the exact nature of the condition, i have been told that he may decide to get it pinned which could suggest a separation in one of the tarsal joints.
Chum may well be going under the knife for a shoulder related complaint which would see out his year.

[TEE-R-OTTER]

Any news on where Joel Carter will be playing now he is back in the land of oz, a former tiger but has been linked with Lake Boga and does have contacts at Nully as well.
Any News on Billy Hewitt? Down in Melb working i have been told, will he be playing down there?

[Dr Readaldabooks]

Any news on where Joel Carter will be playing now he is back in the land of oz, a former tiger but has been linked with Lake Boga and does have contacts at Nully as well.
Any News on Billy Hewitt? Down in Melb working i have been told, will he be playing down there?

Carts has been out at Macorna training on a fairly consistant basis and would be fairly confident that he would be playing out there.
Handy for them a former League B&F in the unders

[Footy Pie]

Any news on where Joel Carter will be playing now he is back in the land of oz, a former tiger but has been linked with Lake Boga and does have contacts at Nully as well.
Any News on Billy Hewitt? Down in Melb working i have been told, will he be playing down there?

No idea who Billy is playing 4 but highly unlikely to be nully!!! trained once, gave young Smithy a few stitches in the back of the head and hasnt been on the track since as he has made the move to Melbourne! Has been back 4 Cricket with Nully/Culgoa most weekends!

[Nackas]

Couldnt help but notice that the 2 Hay boys are still under the category "in progress" on the grfl website yet the bombers have slapped there mugs in friday's Northern Times when nothing has been cleared through correctly as yet? Surely you would wait to be approved before throwing something that big in the paper???

[The Messenger]

Sammy Keath is a massive loss for the bombers, they have lost some good players but I think Sammy could be the hardest to replace. Can't see them letting him go without a fight.

[Conrad]

Brett Hay played 100+ games at Locky before going back home to Miti after Hip Surgery. Very tough player that will face face up to anyone. Played second half of year and played finals at Miti last year. Glen Hay handy player fit player. (havent seen him play heaps of footy. but he tells me he goes alright:p!!!) be interesting to see how the boys go. Good luck to 'm

[bernard the bipolar bear]

Couldnt help but notice that the 2 Hay boys are still under the category "in progress" on the grfl website yet the bombers have slapped there mugs in friday's Northern Times when nothing has been cleared through correctly as yet? Surely you would wait to be approved before throwing something that big in the paper???

The bombers needed some posititive publicity. No mention in the article about all the departures.

[marty sanders]

I know this question has been asked already but are practise games being organised anywhere? I'm from Geelong and a lot of the teams down here start praccos this weekend. I want to know how my old team Moula holds up with all the new recruits. Hopefully they all gell and do well. Has Murrabit lost any of the guns they had playing last year. Bloody hard team to play against.

[CHINA]

Joel "magic" Carter will be playing for the tigers again. Along with Mark Carter coming back this year after a knee reco. And word is Russ Robins aswell...



Any news on where Joel Carter will be playing now he is back in the land of oz, a former tiger but has been linked with Lake Boga and does have contacts at Nully as well.
Any News on Billy Hewitt? Down in Melb working i have been told, will he be playing down there?

[Roughhead]

Couldnt help but notice that the 2 Hay boys are still under the category "in progress" on the grfl website yet the bombers have slapped there mugs in friday's Northern Times when nothing has been cleared through correctly as yet? Surely you would wait to be approved before throwing something that big in the paper???

The bombers needed some posititive publicity. No mention in the article about all the departures.

Just looking on the grfl website and the only clearences from wandella are Tim Sleep and Jonathon Potter, who (correct me if i'm wrong) were seconds players last year!? So if wandella were to take Nackas advise Bear, they wouldn't mention any depatures untill everything was cleared correctly! Although from what people are saying Poodle would have to be a definite departure!

[bernard the bipolar bear]

Just looking on the grfl website and the only clearences from wandella are Tim Sleep and Jonathon Potter, who (correct me if i'm wrong) were seconds players last year!? So if wandella were to take Nackas advise Bear, they wouldn't mention any depatures untill everything was cleared correctly! Although from what people are saying Poodle would have to be a definite departure!

Ordinary policy rejecting clearances. Everyone gets cleared eventually these days, unless contracted or owing money. All you are doing is leaving a bad taste in players mouths and reducing the chances of them returning.

[TEE-R-OTTER]

Question:
What does the Australian Cricket team and Wandella FC have in common?

Hint:
There was a final played last night:)

[Dr Readaldabooks]

Sammy Keath is a massive loss for the bombers, they have lost some good players but I think Sammy could be the hardest to replace. Can't see them letting him go without a fight.

Yes that one will go to the tribunal for sure. I hear also a little unrest with the Wandella media liason officer in Andrew Rogers not happy with his position and considering playing/media liason officer to replace Sammy.