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hotspeedo50
7 Mar 2006, 08:22
This is from todays advertiser
By MICHELANGELO RUCCI
ANDREW McLEOD already has established his greatness in Australian football, on the field. Now he may become infamous off the field.
McLeod's contract dispute with the Adelaide Football Club - he wants three years, the Crows respond with one - could become the final act in a long-simmering saga between the AFL, its players and their union.
While the AFL has adopted the American models of drafts and salary caps, the league has resisted what the U.S. sports fans regard as the most destructive rule in their games - "free agency". Without free agency - whereby a veteran can put himself on the market and transfer to the highest bidder free of compensation to his original club - McLeod is disadvantaged.
Adelaide holds the best cards in the unfolding McLeod deal. If McLeod, 30 in August, rejects Adelaide's policy that over 30-year-old players get only one-year deals at West Lakes, what does he do?
If he seeks a trade at the end of the season in October, what club could - or would - offer up first-round draft picks to compensate Adelaide? After trade talks crash, what does McLeod do? Nominate for the draft and finish his stellar career collecting wooden spoons at Carlton? After that unsavoury option is passed over, does McLeod trundle back to West Lakes to accept a one-year deal at Adelaide?
The cards are very much in Adelaide's favour.
Unless the AFL Players' Association - which has skirted around the issue for years - pushes hard for free agency at the next round of collective-bargaining negotiations with the AFL, the clubs will continue to have the upper hand.
How would free agency work? It would be a virtual return to the VFL's 10-year rule which allowed North Melbourne in the early 1970s to build its breakthrough premiership success. A long-serving player - perhaps 10 years again and McLeod is in his 12th season at Adelaide - would declare himself a free agent at the end of the season. He waits for offers. He takes the best. And, in McLeod's case, if that is not Adelaide, he moves without restraint to a new club. Perhaps Essendon, considering McLeod's admiration of Kevin Sheedy.
It would be McLeod - not Adelaide - in control of this deal.
Adelaide's administration remains bewildered by the fuss McLeod's new contract has created. Crows chief executive Steven Trigg remembers premiership captain Mark Bickley and vice-captain Nigel Smart repeatedly signed one-year deals once they turned 30 and hardly anyone blinked.
McLeod is different. He is a club hero with his two Norm Smith Medals as best-afield in the 1997 and 1998 grand finals, he has been enormously popular with the club's youth and no Adelaide fan wants to see McLeod finish his career elsewhere.
Crows supporters still have their stomachs churn at the memory of high-marking full forward Tony Modra doing his farewell lap with Fremantle. If it is not McLeod this time, a veteran - particularly one at an unfashionable club who wants to chase success in the autumn of his career - will bring free agency to the AFL.
It will dramatically change the game. Ask any US fan of the one rule change they wish their sports had never adopted and the answer repeatedly is "free agency". If loyalty already seems old fashioned in AFL football today, it would be forgotten with free agency.
Opinions?
All I know is that Macca wouldn't go anywhere else.
Opinions?
It was written by Rucci, the worst and most incompetent journalist in the country, which means it is poorly researched, contains numerous factual errors and has zero credibility.
Hence, there is no reason to comment on its actual content.
It was written by Rucci, the worst and most incompetent journalist in the country, which means it is poorly researched, contains numerous factual errors and has zero credibility.
Hence, there is no reason to comment on its actual content.
It seems ok to me. For my benefit, can you please point out the numerous factual errors in the article ?
It seems ok to me. For my benefit, can you please point out the numerous factual errors in the article ?
I got as a far as 'MICHELANGELO RUCCI' and just went by his appaling past record. I have better things to do with my time than to waste it reading an article by a clearly incompetent journalist.
Crows supporters still have their stomachs churn at the memory of high-marking full forward Tony Modra doing his farewell lap with FremantleI cant remember it churning? I remember applauding a great player who through circumstances was asked to move on. Does Rucci imply that Modra was a victim of Adelaides policy or was it as I believe because of Blights philosophy?
All hail Andrew McLeod as the AFL Players saviour. Free agency has been brought up nearly every year...and while I can see some merit in it , to suggest Andrew McLeod will be the one to break the camels back ...I dont see it happening
I cant remember it churning? I remember applauding a great player who through circumstances was asked to move on. Does Rucci imply that Modra was a victim of Adelaides policy or was it as I believe because of Blights philosophy?
Well, there you go GoSarge. There's just one of probably many factual errors in the article. I can't remember my stomach churning either. Did your stomach churn?
I got as a far as 'MICHELANGELO RUCCI' and just went by his appaling past record. I have better things to do with my time than to waste it reading an article by a clearly incompetent journalist.
Yawn,
Time to move on and talk about facts of the article rather some perceived bias he shows to the other club and how some posters believe that he doesn’t have the ability to be a credible journalist. .
Like what was said by Blue, Red and Gold in the http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227633 thread and backed up by numerous others, this anti-sentiment towards Michelangelo Rucci is getting really old and beyond the joke the now.
Well, there you go GoSarge. There's just one of probably many factual errors in the article. I can't remember my stomach churning either. Did your stomach churn?
It was simply a figure of speech and he is entitled to do that.
If you ran a poll and asked the supporters of the AFC what there reaction was to Tony Modra leaving the club, it would not amaze me one bit if more than 51% said that were extremely disappointed at how he left the club and under what circumstances.
Everyone know that Tony Modra was a idol to many who supporters at the AFC and left the club under circumstances beyond his control, Andrew McLeod is another AFC idol and no one wants to see Andrew McLeod leave the club in a suspect way similar to Modra simply because the two parties cannot come to a contract agreement.
We have a rule that all players over the age of 30 are given the standard offer of a one year contract when their contracts are up for renewal.
No exceptions & what was good enough for champion players of the past should be good enough for champion players of the present.
But i do wonder if this is really just a beat-up by Mr Rucci or if indeed Macca is drawing a line in the sand ??
Capitalist
7 Mar 2006, 09:14
We have a rule that all players over the age of 30 are given the standard offer of a one year contract when their contracts are up for renewal.
No exceptions & what was good enough for champion players of the past should be good enough for champion players of the present.
But i do wonder if this is really just a beat-up by Mr Rucci or if indeed Macca is drawing a line in the sand ??
Its Rucci doing the same old thing – ******** stirring the AFC, honestly if this was one of the Powers older players you can imagine the articles talking about Ports heritage and tradition and then saying how the player is turning his back on the club and Free Agency would hurt clubs like Port Power because they can fight with the more weathier clubs etc etc etc
The man is part of the worst newpsaper in the country – this may be his heavily edited work but it is his all the same and it is shyte.
this anti-sentiment towards Michelangelo Rucci is getting really old and beyond the joke the now.
How exactly is stating a fact (Rucci is incompetent) somehow perceived as 'anti-sentiment'. The original poster posted an article by him and I stated that I did not wish to read an article by an incompentent journalist (i.e. Rucci). That is not anti-sentiment, merely a wish to leverage my time in a more effective manner.
As an analogy, would you want to waste your time going to a concert with bad music or watch a completely horrendous or downright boring movie?
Stiffy_18
7 Mar 2006, 09:28
We have a rule that all players over the age of 30 are given the standard offer of a one year contract when their contracts are up for renewal.
No exceptions & what was good enough for champion players of the past should be good enough for champion players of the present.
But i do wonder if this is really just a beat-up by Mr Rucci or if indeed Macca is drawing a line in the sand ??
Its just a big beat up IMHO.
At the start McLeod apparently wasn't aware of the policy but he is fine with it. If players like Bicley, Smart, Hart and Jarman were good enough to accept those terms then why shouldn't the rest of our stars??????
Jarman made a comment on 5AA on the weekend. He finished his career on a couple of 1 year contracts. Generally what club does is look after player's security as well. The 1 year deal is heavy on incentives and is in fact more than a player would get per year if he signed a longer deal.
For example if a player is looking for a 2 year $400K deal the club is not offering 1 year $200K deal but 1 year $250K deal with incentives on top of that.
This whole thing is being blown right out of proportion. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if these champions are signed half way through the year.
Rucci case may change journalism for the better
By Crowked
07mar06
MICHELANGELO RUCCI already has established his reputation of incompitence in journalism, with the Advertiser. Now he may become infamous in the local rag.
Rucci's compulsive, destructive, obsession with the Adelaide Football Club - he wants to report everything in a negative fashion, the Crows respond with an extension of the middle finger - could become the final act in a long-simmering saga between the Advertiser’s chief football writer and the state’s heavy weight AFL club.
While the Advertiser has adopted the Ruccistic model of ridiculously bias, own agenda driven twaddle, the AFC has resisted what the clubs fans regard as the most incompetent journalism in the games history – free licence garbage reporting. Without free license garbage reporting - whereby an incompetent fool can write anything he feels will be detrimental to the Adelaide Football Club and productive for the Port Adelaide Football Club membership drive - Rucci is disadvantaged.
The Adelaide Football Club holds the best cards in the unfolding Rucci ordeal. If Rucci, full of sh it, rejects The Adelaide Football Clubs policy that only proven, reputable journalists get stories out at West Lakes, what does he do?
If he seeks a trade at the end of the pre-season in April, what newspaper could - or would - offer up a bag of dog tu rd to adequately compensate the Advertiser? After trade talks crash, what does Rucci do? Nominate for the Messenger and finish his puke laden career writing stories about Amateur League Division 5 non-events? After that unsavoury option is passed over, does Rucci trundle back to The Advertiser to accept a job on the production line?
The cards are very much in the Adelaide Football Clubs favour.
Unless the Advertiser - which has skirted around the issue for years - pushes hard for quality journalism at the next round of football matches in the NAB Cup, the paper will continue to have the reputation for being the worst paper in the land.
How does quality journalism work? It would be a virtual return to the pre Rucci days which allowed the Advertiser to report factual, informed views on all South Australian football clubs without bias. A long-detested journalist – for perhaps 10 years or more, Rucci is on his last legs in Adelaide – and could declare himself unemployed at the end of the pre-season. He waits for offers. He takes the best if there are any. And, in Rucci's case, there wont be, he moves without restraint to a Centre Link. Perhaps he could pick fruit or shovel sh it, considering Rucci's lack of any real skills and absense of integrity.
It would be Rucci - not the Adeliade Football Club - in control of this deal.
The Advertiser’s administration remains bewildered by the fuss Rucci's latest crap has created. The Advertiser’s chief executive remembers many an article that portrayed untruths and dramatized rubbish from the past and hardly anyone blinked.
Rucci is different. He is a complete toss pot, who has lost any credibility he may have once had and all Adelaide fans want to see Rucci finish his career elsewhere.
Crows supporters still have their stomachs churn at the memory of his constant unjustified bagging of the club despite a record season when they achieved the minor premiership for the first time in 2005. If it is not Rucci’s time, The Advertiser will eventually be bought out by a more credible media agency - particularly one from the eastern states – who will at last bring quality journalism to Adelaide.
It will dramatically change the mornings read. Ask any Crows fan of the one change they wish their paper had adopted and the answer repeatedly is "flick Rucci". If quality journalism already seems old fashioned in AFL football reporting today, it would be forgotten if Rucci is retained.
:D :D :D
drakeyv2
7 Mar 2006, 11:06
beat up
AFC response (http://afc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=249675):
No dispute with McLeod: Trigg
10:28:22 AM Tue 7 March, 2006
afc.com.au
To members and supporters,
Recent publicity could easily lead people to the conclusion that the Club is in conflict or dispute with Andrew McLeod. The fact is - there is no dispute. Also:
1. The fact is that the Club has not begun negotiations with Andrew. We have agreed with Andrew to begin talks about the future once we have some idea of the TPP increase in 2007 (and beyond). Andrew agrees with that approach.
2. There is a Club policy that beyond age 30, a player will be offered one year extensions. This is understood by all players, past and present - including Andrew.
3. That said, Andrew turns 30 late in the season, and (therefore) technically, the club can (re) contract him for as along as it wishes without compromising the said policy.
4. Andrew has made it clear that he wants to finish his career at the Adelaide Football Club and the club is equally committed to that happening. At the right time, an extension will be discussed.
Regards, Steven Trigg
AFC chief executive officer
AFC response (http://afc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=249675):
No dispute with McLeod: Trigg
10:28:22 AM Tue 7 March, 2006
afc.com.au
To members and supporters,
Recent publicity could easily lead people to the conclusion that the Club is in conflict or dispute with Andrew McLeod. The fact is - there is no dispute. Also:
1. The fact is that the Club has not begun negotiations with Andrew. We have agreed with Andrew to begin talks about the future once we have some idea of the TPP increase in 2007 (and beyond). Andrew agrees with that approach.
2. There is a Club policy that beyond age 30, a player will be offered one year extensions. This is understood by all players, past and present - including Andrew.
3. That said, Andrew turns 30 late in the season, and (therefore) technically, the club can (re) contract him for as along as it wishes without compromising the said policy.
4. Andrew has made it clear that he wants to finish his career at the Adelaide Football Club and the club is equally committed to that happening. At the right time, an extension will be discussed.
Regards, Steven Trigg
AFC chief executive officer
& the Pap supporters wonder why we have no respect for Mr Rucci's so-called journalistic standards.
Well what do you know, Rucci's made a mountain out of a mole hill again.
For those who are sick of the anti Rucci sentiment on this board, get used to it. He's made his bed, now he can lie in it. Rucci = 0 credability!!!
Southerntakeover
7 Mar 2006, 12:56
McLeod said previously that if he had to sign a one year contract he would, i dont even see an issue here.
I also think its funny that Rucci thinks McLeod having to sign this contact would mean more than Bickley a duel premiership captain signing it.
SpringChoke
7 Mar 2006, 13:06
AFC response (http://afc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=249675):
No dispute with McLeod: Trigg
10:28:22 AM Tue 7 March, 2006
afc.com.au
To members and supporters,
Recent publicity could easily lead people to the conclusion that the Club is in conflict or dispute with Andrew McLeod. The fact is - there is no dispute. Also:
1. The fact is that the Club has not begun negotiations with Andrew. We have agreed with Andrew to begin talks about the future once we have some idea of the TPP increase in 2007 (and beyond). Andrew agrees with that approach.
2. There is a Club policy that beyond age 30, a player will be offered one year extensions. This is understood by all players, past and present - including Andrew.
3. That said, Andrew turns 30 late in the season, and (therefore) technically, the club can (re) contract him for as along as it wishes without compromising the said policy.
4. Andrew has made it clear that he wants to finish his career at the Adelaide Football Club and the club is equally committed to that happening. At the right time, an extension will be discussed.
Regards, Steven Trigg
AFC chief executive officer
This is a bl*ody disgrace that we have to go to these lengths becuase of this snivelling little sh*t stirrer. For those that don't think there is a problem with Rucci putting an anti-AFC slant on atricles whenever he can, wake up. If you don't think his constant lies can potentially impact the public perception of the AFC then you have no idea. Goebbels would be proud. You say something long and hard enough and people will start to believe it.
Well what do you know, Rucci's made a mountain out of a mole hill again.
For those who are sick of the anti Rucci sentiment on this board, get used to it. He's made his bed, now he can lie in it. Rucci = 0 credability!!!
I completely agree that he has no journalistic credibility left and the depths he is willing to go to pour dirt on the AFC is completely insane but why don’t we just ignore the moron. The advertiser will not fire him as for some reason he has a descent enough reputation in the environment he works; so he is not going anywhere and he will continue to write his misleading mudslinging stories about the Adelaide Football Club simply because he is a sniper who act like a child. He does this to ease his own narrow-mindedness that his beloved Port Adelaide is getting a fair go and the ‘evil empire’ of the Adelaide Crows doesn’t have it all there own way.
Ignore the ********ing moron and simply treat his articles with the contempt they deserve, the more we talk about him the more he wins and get his gollies (yes we all know you are reading this board Ferret head)
Treat him like a child and don’t react to his stupid insinuations and sensationalized media beat ups.
I understand some peoples opinion of us complaining about rucci and how it gets quite boring and repetitive.
This story today is a story in my opinion designed only to cause grief at the AFC and conjecture about our most ever decorated player.You only have to see our CEO's response and this is what Rucci wanted.
South Australians who do not have access to the net and not get informed opinions and knowlage about our club unfortunatly do not have the information availible to see this rubbish as that. They do not have another paper to read to get balanced reporting, IMO 5AA is not going to tell us the truth about him as they have Rucci as a key figure in there football line up.The local sports news on TV do not have the time to counter it either.
They rekon there is around half a million of us in this state that support Adelaide and can you gaurantee that Rucci dosn't impact on some or a heap of them through his anti Adelaide policy?
This is quite serious and very un Australian, there is no rational reason for any journalist to have it in for the AFC, we have done no wrong, we do not cheat we do not slander and we do not abuse or even bully like some other clubs, yet we got someone causing trouble for us and who has a monoply on our market.
I think its time we used the avenues open to us to voice our opinion and be heard.We can write letters to the advertiser we can e Mail the editors there and we can ring 5AA when he is on there.
He makes mistakes,actually he makes ******** loads and perhaps every time he does we use these avenues, but we do it in a assertive,factual and non abusive manner.
If we all get to together and ring 5aa the next time is on and do this it will have a impact as we will flood their switchboard and as every one of us get on air he will be accountable time and time again and perhaps he will not take to kindly to this(it is obvious he has problems and resentment towards us) and go and expand on his crap in another journalistic piece and just give us more ammunition to continue us having a voice.
Do we just want to complain on this board and have the arguing over him continue or do we want to do something about it?
I understand some peoples opinion of us complaining about rucci and how it gets quite boring and repetitive.
This story today is a story in my opinion designed only to cause grief at the AFC and conjecture about our most ever decorated player.You only have to see our CEO's response and this is what Rucci wanted.
South Australians who do not have access to the net and not get informed opinions and knowlage about our club unfortunatly do not have the information availible to see this rubbish as that. They do not have another paper to read to get balanced reporting, IMO 5AA is not going to tell us the truth about him as they have Rucci as a key figure in there football line up.The local sports news on TV do not have the time to counter it either.
They rekon there is around half a million of us in this state that support Adelaide and can you gaurantee that Rucci dosn't impact on some or a heap of them through his anti Adelaide policy?
This is quite serious and very un Australian, there is no rational reason for any journalist to have it in for the AFC, we have done no wrong, we do not cheat we do not slander and we do not abuse or even bully like some other clubs, yet we got someone causing trouble for us and who has a monoply on our market.
I think its time we used the avenues open to us to voice our opinion and be heard.We can write letters to the advertiser we can e Mail the editors there and we can ring 5AA when he is on there.
He makes mistakes,actually he makes ******** loads and perhaps every time he does we use these avenues, but we do it in a assertive,factual and non abusive manner.
If we all get to together and ring 5aa the next time is on and do this it will have a impact as we will flood their switchboard and as every one of us get on air he will be accountable time and time again and perhaps he will not take to kindly to this(it is obvious he has problems and resentment towards us) and go and expand on his crap in another journalistic piece and just give us more ammunition to continue us having a voice.
Do we just want to complain on this board and have the arguing over him continue or do we want to do something about it?
We (well the SANFL clubs) stoped the Port Adelaide Football Club from entering the AFL in 1990. That’s why Michelangelo and 99.9% of Port Adelaide Power supporters dislike the Adelaide Football Club and envy everything the club stand for.
The greater good for football and common sense stoped the Port Adelaide Football Club from entering a side into AFL but they only see how the Adelaide Crows were born and dislike us for that (Michelangelo included)
We (well the SANFL clubs) stoped the Port Adelaide Football Club from entering the AFL in 1990. That’s why Michelangelo and 99.9% of Port Adelaide Power supporters dislike the Adelaide Football Club and envy everything the club stand for.
The greater good for football and common sense stoped the Port Adelaide Football Club from entering a side into AFL but they only see how the Adelaide Crows were born and dislike us for that (Michelangelo included)
Is that our fault? is that something we had control over?
Is it rational to use this against us? is it fair that we cop it as a result?
Is that our fault? is that something we had control over?
No, but it there mentality
Is it rational to use this against us? is it fair that we cop it as a result?
That’s why he should be treated like a child; ignore the moron.
He doses it because it annoys the majority of Crows supporters and he has no other material to work with. At the moment he is clutching at straws and looking for the smallest bit of dirt he can write a sensational article about the Crows rather than look and write about his beloved Power and their woeful efforts.
He’s not going to write an article about sacking choco or the pressure on Warren Tredrea so he has to manufacture something that has no truth behind it.
Is that our fault? is that something we had control over?
Is it rational to use this against us? is it fair that we cop it as a result?
Dont buy the paper or dont read Rucci
passamore
7 Mar 2006, 14:49
Didn't Andrew Capel and Graham Cornes start all this last week?
Didn't Andrew Capel and Graham Cornes start all this last week?
Shush you, not while we are paying out on Rucci. ;)
passamore
7 Mar 2006, 15:06
Sorry, I've not been well ever since he tipped us to win the flag
Dont buy the paper or dont read Rucci
i aint spent one red cent in a year on that "paper"
SpringChoke
7 Mar 2006, 15:34
Shush you, not while we are paying out on Rucci. ;)
So you don't think there's a problem then PC? Probabaly don't get The Advertsier in WA?:rolleyes:
What is funny is that two years ago Rucci was complaining about how flawed it was that Port ended up with nothing for nICK Stevens now apparently he is talking free agency, typical Rucci hypocracy.
My opinion is that there should be free agency in the AFL after being on a list for 5 years or 100 games.
What is funny is that two years ago Rucci was complaining about how flawed it was that Port ended up with nothing for nICK Stevens now apparently he is talking free agency, typical Rucci hypocracy.
Rucci was actually describing free agency as a negative and pointed out that US NFL fans describe it as the most destructive rule ever.
So you don't think there's a problem then PC? Probabaly don't get The Advertsier in WA?:rolleyes:
Who cares if there is a problem or not
FFS stop reading and stop buying and tell the Advertiser why and maybe they will change the editorial style...but the more people moan about Rucci the more the Advertiser love it.
I havent ''bought'' the Advertiser in over a year.. I will purchase a daily copy on my travels through Adelaide next weekend. I will read the articles and then forget them 5 minutes after I do.
I truly wonder if its the Rucci name above the story or the actual story that upsets people
passamore
7 Mar 2006, 16:03
I just can't cope with the fact he has tipped us to win the flag
SpringChoke
7 Mar 2006, 16:06
Who cares if there is a problem or not
FFS stop reading and stop buying and tell the Advertiser why and maybe they will change the editorial style...but the more people moan about Rucci the more the Advertiser love it.
I havent ''bought'' the Advertiser in over a year.. I will purchase a daily copy on my travels through Adelaide next weekend. I will read the articles and then forget them 5 minutes after I do.
I truly wonder if its the Rucci name above the story or the actual story that upsets people
Must be easy thing to say from the comforts of perth. I suppose its a differenet story when it's not in your face every day.
Rucci was actually describing free agency as a negative and pointed out that US NFL fans describe it as the most destructive rule ever.
No he was saying that is what the apparent opinion is in the US about it, he makes no comment of it being negative as far as he is concerned. The fact of it all is that McLeod has made no mention of being pro free agency, Rucci has dug this up and trying to elude that McLeod should be able to have the say over where he goes, hence that garbage about how he could go to Essendon etc. He didnt have an issue over the club holding the rights over players when it came to Nick Stevens.
That is the difference between the two, its just very funny that it comes up in relation to an Adelaide player, if it was Waganeen or someone from port wanting a longer contract he would be writing please sign articles like he was doing with Josh Carr.
Must be easy thing to say from the comforts of perth. I suppose its a differenet story when it's not in your face every day.
Is that like trying to work out what happens ''from the comfort of my loungeroom''? :rolleyes:
Grow up and stop worrying about what someone writes in a paper
Didn't Andrew Capel and Graham Cornes start all this last week?
Yes, last Friday. The Tiser has been baiting the club all weekend. The fact that it hasnt been mentioned on the boards until today is a good sign.
In regards to Cornes/Rucci comparing Macca's contract situation to Modra's...I could be wrong, but didnt we offer Tony a 2 year deal but Maxie Stevens kept pushing for three years? If I'm right, then why didnt that get mentioned in the articles?
I hope Angry Max isnt Macca's Manager!
SpringChoke
8 Mar 2006, 07:46
Is that like trying to work out what happens ''from the comfort of my loungeroom''? :rolleyes:
Grow up and stop worrying about what someone writes in a paper
So if you're no longer worrying about what gets written in the paper I suppose you're gonna head back to the Politics board and delete 50% of your posts there?? "grow up" - pffft - O wise one.
outback jack
8 Mar 2006, 22:02
I just can't cope with the fact he has tipped us to win the flag
agree deliberately trying to put the pressure on us no doubt.
Allefgib
9 Mar 2006, 01:02
It never ceases to amuse me to see people post here repeatedly saying ignore Rucci if you don't like what he writes...
What about ignoring those who bitch and moan about rucci if you don't like what they post!??!
NB: tongue firmly in cheek but still slightly bemused at the habits of humanity :P
Rucci picking the Crows is like my mother, who NEVER picks Adelaide in her work footy pools. Her idea is if they win, she's happy, and if they lose at least she has got her footy pools right.
With the Roch, if we win, he's right, and if we don't he's happy. Easy.
outback jack
10 Mar 2006, 13:05
interesting that certain posters, were advocating this free agency thing as the great limiting factor in developing the AFL's greatness. Lucky i dont believe everything i'm told.