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Oh Furious One
13 Mar 2006, 01:16
In his prime, the most ruthless fighter in history?
demon21
13 Mar 2006, 01:26
That he was before he went to prison he was just about unstoppable except fpr his last fight before he went to prison. I would have loved to seen him fight Lewis and Hollyfield in his prime.
He massacred his oppostion but who were they? A blown up light heavyweight? A senile heavyweight? He basically cleaned out a bum division.
Having said that, I wish he was in his prime today to wipe out the bum division that is the heavyweight division.
andrewb94
31 Mar 2006, 21:27
He massacred his oppostion but who were they? A blown up light heavyweight? A senile heavyweight? He basically cleaned out a bum division.
Having said that, I wish he was in his prime today to wipe out the bum division that is the heavyweight division.
Exactly, people who complain about the haevyweights now should look at the heavys in the mid 80's. 1986 Mike Tyson would be champion now no doubt.
In his prime, the most ruthless fighter in history?
A lot of it was handpicked opponents and a good manager.
But certainly his ferocity and application was ruthless. ie mosy handpicked fights go some sort of distance but he was demolishing his opponents in under 3 rounds and mostly before the end of the 1st
So yes he was ruthless then he met Robyn and Ruth got less and less
Who is the undisputed Heavyweight champion at the moment. I read the other day Lennox Lewis is "former" undisputed champion.
andrewb94
5 Apr 2006, 13:42
There is no undisputed champion at the moment, Lewis was the last.
The division is in a mess at the moment.:rolleyes:
The heavyweight champions are:
WBC : Hasim Rahman
WBA : Nikolay Valuev
IBF: Chris Byrd (fighting W.Klitscko in a few weeks in Germany)
WBO :Sergei Liakovich (beat Lamon Brewster last week)
Oh Furious One
2 Dec 2006, 13:08
I really do hope he fights in PRIDE sometime next year. I understand he has trouble entering Japan due to his criminal history but they're thinking about holding his fight in China and telecasting it live during an event. If this does happen, I really hope it will be under full MMA rules and not modified in any way.
Who should his opponent be if it does indeed go down?
Whoa! That would be awesome. Give him a lesser light to begin with I r kn. Maybe a Japanese fighter to get some real interest. No point thowing him agiainst a takedown master as it would be a boring fight. And no point putting him against someone like Crocop cos he would just get killed. Semmy Schilt perhaps?
Presti_is_god
2 Dec 2006, 14:07
Whoa! That would be awesome. Give him a lesser light to begin with I r kn. Maybe a Japanese fighter to get some real interest. No point thowing him agiainst a takedown master as it would be a boring fight. And no point putting him against someone like Crocop cos he would just get killed. Semmy Schilt perhaps?
Semmy is a K1 guy now. Semmy would kill Tyson anyway. Tyson is a sack of ******** nowadays. He will if anything just do an exhibition boxing match.
Oh Furious One
2 Dec 2006, 14:08
I don’t know, man. Schilt has a lot of experience, nearly forty fights and his reach would cause mass amounts of trouble for Tyson. Do you really want to throw Tyson to someone with so much experience straight away? Everyone will be gunning for a Hunt/Tyson bout, but I can’t see this happening either, especially under MMA rules.
It will be interesting to see what comes of this.
Well to be honest I think Tyson would be mauled regardless. He'd have to work magic not to be taken down. at least againts another striker he'd have a bit of a chance. Tyson is as bull, he'd have a crack. I think PiG is right tho, just checked sherdog, Semmy is a K-1 fighter. The problem I see with Tyson going against a jap fighter is they all play the sub wrestler game. I mean who else is there? You got Tyson for probably 1 to 2 cards max, I don't see him lighting the world on fire. Get him against a known striker and hope for a brutal knockout. Just my 2c. Would like to see him take on shogun and get killed (literealy he would be). But man what a show! Tough question to answer. v Hunt would also be fun to watch i rkn aswell OFO.
Who is old enough to remember Ali V Shingaki???? or some japanese fighter who spent half the fight on his back using his legs.
Woulda been 1977 on...
Presti_is_god
3 Dec 2006, 14:54
Who is old enough to remember Ali V Shingaki???? or some japanese fighter who spent half the fight on his back using his legs.
Woulda been 1977 on...
Antonio Inoki. He executed the buttscoot to perfection.
Oh Furious One
3 Dec 2006, 18:08
If Tyson has maintained the majority of his striking power, he would defiantly have a punchers chance in any fight during the stand up. But unfortunately for him, that is only part of the game. If he doesn’t have any sub defense, which I suspect he doesn’t, he is going to have a lot of trouble with any fighter with remote ground skills.
It will defiantly draw a mass amount of ratings though, so it will be interesting.
Well to be honest I think Tyson would be mauled regardless. He'd have to work magic not to be taken down. at least againts another striker he'd have a bit of a chance. Tyson is as bull, he'd have a crack. I think PiG is right tho, just checked sherdog, Semmy is a K-1 fighter. The problem I see with Tyson going against a jap fighter is they all play the sub wrestler game. I mean who else is there? You got Tyson for probably 1 to 2 cards max, I don't see him lighting the world on fire. Get him against a known striker and hope for a brutal knockout. Just my 2c. Would like to see him take on shogun and get killed (literealy he would be). But man what a show! Tough question to answer. v Hunt would also be fun to watch i rkn aswell OFO.
Put him against Big Bob Sapp :) That would draw a crowd!
The reality is though, that if Tyson was put up against any of the Pride circuit guys apart from but the smallest, under MMA rules, he would be annihilated.
He'd lose by sub against virtually anyone in the MMa world. Although the shorter fights would be in his favour, as would the lighter gloves. If he worked on his td defense and it stayed standup he'd be a chance i guess, but not against crocop i agree, he'd just get cannoned in the head with a left leg and tweety birds would be flying round his head. A very interesting fight in my opinion would be tyson v sylvia.
Put him in against Butterbean!
Now that would be a great fight!
Put him in against Butterbean!
Now that would be a great fight!
Actually i was going to say Monson but then i thought nah monson would take him to the ground and game over. Strange maybe but i reckon he'd have a better chance against Arlovski or Sylvia or Hunt, even though all those guys would likely take it to Monson.
Actually i was going to say Monson but then i thought nah monson would take him to the ground and game over. Strange maybe but i reckon he'd have a better chance against Arlovski or Sylvia or Hunt, even though all those guys would likely take it to Monson.
Butterbean is nothing but a slogger like Tyson. I think it would be a great match.
Throw him in with Fedor and end his career fast
If MMA wants to be treated seriously freak shows like Tyson should not be involved
Butterbean is nothing but a slogger like Tyson. I think it would be a great match.
The upshot is you're basically just going to get a straight boxing match. Maybe Aleksander Emelianenko. He'll trade with Tyson no problem. It'd be a first round TKO fight due to GNP after Tyson got taken down but you need a few of those during an event. I saw a Tyson casino promotion in Vegas in September. He's looking reasonably fit. I wonder how he'd go with the longer rounds typical of MMA.
T-I-G-E-R-M-A-N
12 Dec 2006, 17:58
Poor Tysons career was stuffed when buster douglas knocked him out. One of the greatest upsets of all time, he never really kicked on. I was just thinking though John Hopuate vs Butterbean would be an interesting matchup. But, Butterbean did nothing when he came 2 australia last year
Oh Furious One
12 Dec 2006, 20:54
I really do wish Butterbean stayed away from MMA. His record is respectable but he hasn’t beat anyone notable, just another freak show that PRIDE decided to bring in, ugh. Butterbean said recently in an interview that he would fight in any promotion bar the UFC. This is hilarious because for starters he weighs far too much to fight under UFC rules and secondly, he isn’t even close to being talented enough. At least his PRIDE debut at BUSHIDO against Ikuhisa Minowa entertained me. The drop kick at the start by Minowa was hilarious.
He should have stuck to boxing. Had he have fought Hunt at PRIDE 32 under MMA rules, he would have legitimately died, but instead he got O’Haire, who is a tomato can if there ever was one. There is no way that a Butterbean and Tyson fight would be booked under MMA rules and thus I do not want to see it. I wouldn’t want to see Tyson against Aleks either because of the height, reach and experience difference.
sydney eagle
13 Dec 2006, 10:28
In his prime, the most ruthless fighter in history? Ruthless ? Ever seen film of the Dempsey/Willard title fight ? THAT is ruthless !
Butterbean is nothing but a slogger like Tyson. I think it would be a great match.
Hes a boxer yes, but you've got to remember hes considered one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, hed get annihilated on the mat, but dont think for one second that any of the MMA fighters could go punch for punch with him, its fairly easy to block a kick or an elbow if you know thats all thats going to come, because any MMA fighter in the world would be stupid to go slog for slog with Tyson, they would be turned into dog meat.
MagpieScouser
31 Dec 2006, 00:40
arrested for posseion of drugs,he must be the biggest loser in the history of sports,he might have been a great boxer once but as a person he is a dog
crowm dome
1 Jan 2007, 18:23
2 possible contenders......"Ironhead" Fujita or James Thompson.:thumbsu:
2 possible contenders......"Ironhead" Fujita or James Thompson.:thumbsu:
I think we have a winner. That would be a pretty good first up fight I'd think.
C4[2]Yo`DooR
5 Mar 2007, 21:23
Put him up against "Ferocious" Fernando Vargas :cool:
crownie
23 Mar 2007, 22:46
Poor Tysons career was stuffed when buster douglas knocked him out. One of the greatest upsets of all time, he never really kicked on. I was just thinking though John Hopuate vs Butterbean would be an interesting matchup. But, Butterbean did nothing when he came 2 australia last year
would of won the fight if it wasnt for Douglas being able to survive a long count.
all the fighters around Tyson at the start of his career were terrified of him, once he came up against Hollyfield and Lewis who wernt' he did not look so threatening.
would of won the fight if it wasnt for Douglas being able to survive a long count.
all the fighters around Tyson at the start of his career were terrified of him, once he came up against Hollyfield and Lewis who wernt' he did not look so threatening.
Agreed, Lewis was twice the fighter Tyson was. He could do it all.
thehoff
25 Mar 2007, 11:40
I was just thinking though John Hopuate vs Butterbean would be an interesting matchup. But, Butterbean did nothing when he came 2 australia last year
Please tell me you are joking... Buttenbean would lay him out within 90 seconds.
Hopuate is a hack.... No real fighting skill, just power and poor fitness. Should he come up against a fighter than can defend himself, he'll be in a whole wolrd of trouble.
Think about the fighters he has fought... the have all been cans who have a win/loss record of 1-5, 3-11, etc!
Hoppa got beat last night in Sydney.
Hopefully this is the start of him going away. Horrible for boxing have a bloke as bad as he is winning "fights" on TV. That Mason has to go as well, doesnt even know how to hold his hands. A joke.
Hoppa got beat last night in Sydney.
Hopefully this is the start of him going away. Horrible for boxing have a bloke as bad as he is winning "fights" on TV. That Mason has to go as well, doesnt even know how to hold his hands. A joke.
Really? He fought again already? I thought there was a minimum rest period.
You seem to know your stuff so i should not query you, but are you sure?
yea, if you keep winning, or dont get concussed you can fight whenever you want.
He fought some Fitzgerald guy who was 1-4-1 and lost a decision. Apparenlty they are going to rematch on a Jamie Myer show on the Gold Coast next month.
yea, if you keep winning, or dont get concussed you can fight whenever you want.
He fought some Fitzgerald guy who was 1-4-1 and lost a decision. Apparenlty they are going to rematch on a Jamie Myer show on the Gold Coast next month.
This just prooves what a hack he really is and the person who suggested Butterbean V Hoppa really needs to get off the drugs.
I'm guessing this guy knew how to defend himself from Hoppa's hopeless wild whirlwind punches where he displays no defence, or Hoppa tired after the first or second round. Regardless of what people think. Hoppa is bad for the sport.
yea, he is a hack, a circus act.
sydney eagle wrote yonks ago
Ruthless ? Ever seen film of the Dempsey/Willard title fight ? THAT is ruthless !
Ever seen footage of Dempsey/Firpo? Jack was away with the fairies after being knocked down in the first, managed to get up and then knock down Firpo. When he got back to his corner he asked them what round it was!
Tyson had a lot of potential but never realised it. His absolute peak was vs Spinks, lots of movement and threw punches in combinations. On that form he would have given a lot of the greats a run for their money.
It saddens me to see him these days, basically a freak show whose blown lots of chances and still a target for people trying to make a quick buck.
Also, can someone tell me who is the linear champ? Don't follow the sport as closely as I once did, a shame, but shonky fights and promoters wore me out in the early 90s.
Also, can someone tell me who is the linear champ? Don't follow the sport as closely as I once did, a shame, but shonky fights and promoters wore me out in the early 90s.
Lewis retired as linear champ.
Nobody has it. Some tried to claim Klit was it, but he wasnt.
It will start again when there is a clear, undisputed champion I guess. Who knows when that will be.
Hoppa fought again last night, and got KO'd in the first round by a bloke making his debut.
Id say he will be retired by the end of this year.
In other news, the bloke who killed Hooksey won a decision in his debut.