Vafa U19 (3)

[leftfootkick]

Whats everyone's views on the U/19 (3) this year...

IMO...

Oakleigh and Bentleigh might be 2 teams to look out for this season... the boys from Essendon should be pretty tough whilst the rebel from Ormond shouldn't go to bad considering their huge list right now.

[fish1]

Marcillen only have lost 4 i hear so they should be strong. plus they have this years year 12 will be in.

[coombs55]

Pity Marcellin are in Section 1

[Syd Kennets]

Old Essendon will just forfeit.

[mightysainters]

Old Essendon will just forfeit.
What did you mean by that? They're that bad?
St Bedes Mentone have a big list this year same as ormond..But with the U17's winning the premiership in the MSJFL (Mentone) they should be pretty good espeicially led with the ruckman Barr I hear who is flying...

[leftfootkick]

What did you mean by that? They're that bad?
St Bedes Mentone have a big list this year same as ormond..But with the U17's winning the premiership in the MSJFL (Mentone) they should be pretty good espeicially led with the ruckman Barr I hear who is flying...

Gotta disagree with you on that one... mentone just snuck into finals last year and lost... i think their older blokes have moved up and they won't be as effect this year... maybe bottom four... haven't heard of a "Barr" so don't know how effective he could be.

As for Ormond, can't see them doing to well.

[leftfootkick]

Also,

any names to look out for in this year?

[fish1]

Does anyone know anything about Ben Flanigan, Played 4 De La a couple of years back. Heard he was a goal kicking machine.

[leftfootkick]

Any one have any practice matches coming up?

[streetball]

Does anyone know anything about Ben Flanigan, Played 4 De La a couple of years back. Heard he was a goal kicking machine.

i think he starred for de la's under 19's last season, not 100% sure though if it was in the ones or two's?. His last name strikes a bell, must have kicked a bag or two in his hay day. ;) However, there was a fisher that did seem to star on a regular basis for de la ? You woudn't happen to know who that was ? Fisher and Flannigon were quite a feared line up as i recall ? I think many people could vouch for that ?

Addionally ormond will be a very competitive side depending on whether there gun players from last year are playing eg Chis,Bails,Spitta etc..Just wait and see.

[Scribe]

Just to provide clarification, U19 (3) will involve the following teams:

EMMAUS ST LEOS OC AFC
OAKLEIGH AFC
OLD IVANHOE GRAMMARIANS
ST BEDES MENTONE TIGERS
ORMOND AFC
AJAX AFC
OLD ESSENDON GRAMMARIANS
BENTLEIGH
LA TROBE UNIVERSITY AFC
MELBOURNE HIGH SCHOOL OB

:thumbsu:

[SeymourLions]

Gotta disagree with you on that one... mentone just snuck into finals last year and lost... i think their older blokes have moved up and they won't be as effect this year... maybe bottom four... haven't heard of a "Barr" so don't know how effective he could be.

As for Ormond, can't see them doing to well.

Well he wont be very effective in 06'. He moved to Sydney for Uni.

[The Big Pineapple]

Old Essendon will just forfeit.

Not this year my friend. A new coaching structure has led to 35+ signed up and ready to take on section 3 this season. Should definitely be there come spetember.

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watch out for ormonds trevor foy
and as far as spitta being called a gun player? i dont think u no what u r tlkaing about

[streetball]

watch out for ormonds trevor foy
and as far as spitta being called a gun player? i dont think u no what u r tlkaing about

Bit of sarcasm mate so relax..Chisholm is the key to ormond i think, showed that all of last season and in the granny although he was supported well by Bailey and the rest of the side.

[The Big Pineapple]

Old Ivanhoe Under 19's drew with Old Essendon Under 19's on the weekend.

Old Essendon looked much improved on last year with pretty much a whole new side and new coaching staff.

[F/D]

Ajax are a punch of dirty dogs, the way they play.

[Cats fan 16]

watch out 4 latrobe, they have some good players coming through. A few TAC guys, mark my words, theyll be a force to be reckoned with.

[leftfootkick]

If the TAC boys are good enough then they'll be play most of the year in the TAC Cup not U/19 (3), true?

[Cats fan 16]

sorry i actually ment ex TAC, as in they played TAC last year. They might not have held a permanent spot in the side but they played a few games. Tall key position players aswell, so should go alright in a division 3 league

[mightysainters]

mate a division 3 league? you really don't know too much about 19's do ya? It is a very good section not much between 2 and 3... In fact St Bedes beat two teams in the divi 2 by over 6 goals... It's a very competitive section and no one are slouches.

[leftfootkick]

Gee, the results for round 1 are rediculous!!

I think the VAFA should of had "Grading Matches" like they do in basketball.

[mightysainters]

Yeh fair idea leftfootkick from all reports st leo's were as soft as butter and just plain terrible. Gonna be the whipping boys this season

[Nathan Brown #7]

yeh the results were extremely varied. Either St Leos must be terrible or oakley must be very good. PEGS got beat by more than i expected, they were always a good school team. Any reports from any games? good players? teams to look out for?

[Cats fan 16]

mate a division 3 league? you really don't know too much about 19's do ya? It is a very good section not much between 2 and 3... In fact St Bedes beat two teams in the divi 2 by over 6 goals... It's a very competitive section and no one are slouches.
I would by no means call this league 'very good'. The standard is pretty average if u ask me. Played on saturday and the teams in this comp seem to hav one or 2 ok players and the rest are battlers. I dont wanna form judgement too soon, but my under 18 team from last year which was in a league one lower to the GFL (geelong football leauge), would be better than the teams ive seen so far. The decision making is poor and players in this section dont seem to hav the football 'smarts'.

[Cats fan 16]

I would by no means call this league 'very good'. The standard is pretty average if u ask me. Played on saturday and the teams in this comp seem to hav one or 2 ok players and the rest are battlers. I dont wanna form judgement too soon, but my under 18 team from last year which was in a league one lower to the GFL (geelong football leauge), would be better than the teams ive seen so far. The decision making is poor and players in this section dont seem to hav the football 'smarts'.
I probably talked too soon. Played st bedes today and was very impressed by the standard of footy they played; theyre a bloody good side. The game against MHSOB gave me the wrong idea about this league. It is a fair standard.

[mightysainters]

Mate reality check obviously for you. I watched your game yesterday and you guys all look alike tall and lanky and Bedes just totally outclassed you in every department. Oakleigh, Bedes, Ormond and Bentleigh look the good so far and those 4 are very competitve.
You played Bedes as I said and they had no TAC players playing and Haileybury Boys. They beat two section 2 teams.
Ormond and Bentleigh had a hard and physical battle with ormond prevailing.
Oakleigh had a good win too over old ivanhoe.

[Nathan Brown #7]

Mate reality check obviously for you. I watched your game yesterday and you guys all look alike tall and lanky and Bedes just totally outclassed you in every department. Oakleigh, Bedes, Ormond and Bentleigh look the good so far and those 4 are very competitve.
You played Bedes as I said and they had no TAC players playing and Haileybury Boys. They beat two section 2 teams.
Ormond and Bentleigh had a hard and physical battle with ormond prevailing.
Oakleigh had a good win too over old ivanhoe.

Thanks mighty sainters... you seem to know a bit about the comp, would you mind writing up a possible ladder prediction. Hard to tell at the moment i know, with alot of unevenness. Teams like Ivanhoe are yet to win a game, however its difficult to judge how good they are as they have played what looks to be 2 of the better/best sides. Looks like Emmaus and Ajax may very well be the whipping boys though..

[Max Leader]

It is a pity that other thread aren't as informative as this one.

No sledging, but just fair commentary on each teams ability.

Will watch this thread for the continued good discussion.

[mightysainters]

Thanks mighty sainters... you seem to know a bit about the comp, would you mind writing up a possible ladder prediction. Hard to tell at the moment i know, with alot of unevenness. Teams like Ivanhoe are yet to win a game, however its difficult to judge how good they are as they have played what looks to be 2 of the better/best sides. Looks like Emmaus and Ajax may very well be the whipping boys though..

Ajax? After demolishing Emmaus are by no means a powerhouse or whipping boys... That will be Old Essendon Grammar and Emmaus.
Round 3 predictions
Emmaus St Leos vs Ormond
Ivanhoe vs Ajax (Although may be a tight one)
OEG vs St Bedes
La Trobe vs Oakleigh
Melbourne High School vs Bentleigh will be an interesting one.

[leftfootkick]

MHS vs Bentleigh is the game of the round I believe.

In my view, its 5 teams battling for the top 4.

Oakleigh, St. Bedes, Bentleigh, Ormond, Melbourne High School

The rest are a bit behind the pack.

[The Big Pineapple]

MHS vs Bentleigh is the game of the round I believe.

In my view, its 5 teams battling for the top 4.

Oakleigh, St. Bedes, Bentleigh, Ormond, Melbourne High School

The rest are a bit behind the pack.

Look for OEG to be the big improvers in coming weeks.

They are not as bad as their first 2 games would suggest.

[Supergrass]

Do they have a few out TBP?

Few U19's in the senior team getting the chop after a lacklustre performance against Old Brighton perhaps?

[Disco Bickie]

I know their Captain was out on the weekend.

[The Big Pineapple]

I know their Captain was out on the weekend.

That's right Disco the captain was out but this doesn't explain the 20 goal rout they copped on the weekend. The problem Supergrass has been getting their "best" 18 players on the park each week having to deal with work and family committments. This should sort itself out over the next few weeks and you should see a much improved performance from the bombers in coming weeks.

[mightysainters]

Very suprised with their lacklustre start and it just won't get any better mentone they have this week :( ouch.... In one word St Bedes beating Old Essendon? PERCENTAGE.

[The Big Pineapple]

Very suprised with their lacklustre start and it just won't get any better mentone they have this week :( ouch.... In one word St Bedes beating Old Essendon? PERCENTAGE.
Where is it... Keilor Hill or the Postage Stamp???

[mightysainters]

at PEGS i think that's keilors hill

[pinelodge]

bit early to write off ivanhoe isnt it?
i definately wouldnt write the hoers off, they've got a very good team this year knowing that most of the boys from the 2005 school team who came 3rd in the AGSV are playing in the 19's.
Also, is a bloke called Baldwyn still playing 19's, he killed us last year playing onball kicking 7 or 8 and also a member of the 19's rep team.

[Richard Clay Torpedoes]

Pineapple Head...build a bridge and get over the fact that not all football grounds are the same size....it is one of the great facets of our game that we play at grounds of different shape, turf base in different locations affected by diffrent weather conditions such as prevailing winds...some of us can remember playing on a ground in Keilor that in wet conditions had raw sewerage floating across it....sound familiar???

[The Big Pineapple]

Pineapple Head...build a bridge and get over the fact that not all football grounds are the same size....it is one of the great facets of our game that we play at grounds of different shape, turf base in different locations affected by diffrent weather conditions such as prevailing winds...some of us can remember playing on a ground in Keilor that in wet conditions had raw sewerage floating across it....sound familiar???

Nope, doesn't sound familiar at all.

I think most people will agree that Brindisi St is in a league of it's own when it comes to ordinary grounds.

[Richard Clay Torpedoes]

Perhaps Pineapple Head you should ask some of the senior people around your club about how it was out on Keilor Hill in the past....from one who experienced it...it was disgusting...but I don't moan and whinge about continually...funny thing that in over 100 years of football at Brindisi street only one club has refused to take the field at the start of a game - guess who...yep Pineapple Head your club....but we made sure it wasn't too hard for the soft feet and tender skin that comes with too much pampering......wonder why you couldn't win that day!!....

[Supa Frank]

Perhaps Pineapple Head you should ask some of the senior people around your club about how it was out on Keilor Hill in the past....from one who experienced it...it was disgusting...but I don't moan and whinge about continually...funny thing that in over 100 years of football at Brindisi street only one club has refused to take the field at the start of a game - guess who...yep Pineapple Head your club....but we made sure it wasn't too hard for the soft feet and tender skin that comes with too much pampering......wonder why you couldn't win that day!!....

RCT, is Owen lalor coaching the U/19 at St bedes? He was at OM and was very good as I recall!

[Local Boy]

RCT Dont get so CRUSTY about it

[mightysainters]

RCT, is Owen lalor coaching the U/19 at St bedes? He was at OM and was very good as I recall!

Yup he's the St Bedes Coach use to be a coach at Melbourne Grammar for the school I believe two years ago, then moved to St Bedes.

[Richard Clay Torpedoes]

Close but no cigar Local Boy!!!!

[Local Boy]

It would have to be one of you

[Red Roy]

Little bit going on there between Local Boy and RCT. Why do you care about people sticking up for the surface down at Brinidsi (which is average) local boy???

[Knight Rider]

Let's just worry about the game and not the ground surface. Although, must agree with TBP....Brindisi is very average!

TBP, what is going on with the 19's up on Keilor Hill? Are other teams playing ineligible players???hmm

[Nathan Brown #7]

i definately wouldnt write the hoers off, they've got a very good team this year knowing that most of the boys from the 2005 school team who came 3rd in the AGSV are playing in the 19's.
Also, is a bloke called Baldwyn still playing 19's, he killed us last year playing onball kicking 7 or 8 and also a member of the 19's rep team.

Yeh thats what i meant by a bit early to write them off, i know they had a good school team last year, however so did PEGS, and they havent been travelling to well lately, so i dont what kind of indication that gives. Can anyone let me know how these 2 teams are going, as i follow the AGSV closely, and its suprising to see them struggling.

[The Big Pineapple]

Yeh thats what i meant by a bit early to write them off, i know they had a good school team last year, however so did PEGS, and they havent been travelling to well lately, so i dont what kind of indication that gives. Can anyone let me know how these 2 teams are going, as i follow the AGSV closely, and its suprising to see them struggling.

The attraction of a little bit of $$$ from the EDFL really hurts at Old Essendon. The top 5-8 from PEGS year 12 normally go to EDFL and a few VFL which means that Old Essendon under 19s stuggle for match winner type players.

[Frazz]

you can say that again.. old essendon have no chance this year if they play like they have the last 2 weeks...hardley ever first to the ball, their half forward line just expects to get the ball without leading anywhere and to do that for 4 quarters obviously says something about the coach.

Ivanhoe on the other hand will do well because of their committment to the ball and tough gameplay, no matter who lines up on the field.

The wildcard for this year is Melbourne HIgh OB who can imporve 2 fold if their 4-5 best players are dropped from their senior ranks. but i guess most clubs face this problem especially oakliegh with their players being taken due to higher playing grades or something like that.

[Knight Rider]

Do most 19's teams train with the seniors or separately, perhaps even on another night?

Oakleigh are in D3...hardly requires skillful 19's to win you games!

[mightysainters]

EDITED: look down

[mightysainters]

Ajax? After demolishing Emmaus are by no means a powerhouse or whipping boys... That will be Old Essendon Grammar and Emmaus.
Round 3 predictions
Emmaus St Leos vs Ormond
Ivanhoe vs Ajax (Although may be a tight one)
OEG vs St Bedes
La Trobe vs Oakleigh
Melbourne High School vs Bentleigh will be an interesting one.


5/5 Although my 'may be a tight one' for the Ivanhoe game quite off the mark. La Trobe stuck with Oakleigh much more than I expected after looking very ordinary against St Bedes. St Bedes came through down at PEGS with a win although their ruck divisions didn't look so dominant with the big OEG ruckman dominating hitouts. Although St Bedes' midfield looked far too classy for the OEG's players, with St Bedes running them off their feet.
Bentleigh came out as underdogs and really dominated the game with Melbourne kicking some late consilation goals.
Ivanhoe on all reports (and score) smashed AJAX and looked very good. Will be an interesting week coming up.

[Knight Rider]

Pick your winners again this week Might Saint....

[Nathan Brown #7]

mightysainters... your giving me nothing. i thought you were the man to ask on this division..

[Knight Rider]

Mighty sainter how do you perceive to know so much about this division, or was your tipping just a one off fluke?

Nathan Brown - look to see the AGSV teams fly home in the second half of the year!

[mightysainters]

Settle fellas was a big week in Under 19 divi three football.

Review
Ormond vs Old Ivanhoe 57-106
Old Ivanhoe stamped athority in EE Gun Reserve that was a massive upset IMO. Ormond obviously have 3-5 guys promoted to the Seniors but that does not slide when you're meant ot be a contender... Perhaps I underestimated the hoers losing to Oakleigh and Bedes is no shame at all both very strong sides. The game in all reports was dominated by Old Ivanhoe winning every quater quite convincing puting there body in much harder and seemed far too physical at times. The hoers victorious by 49 points to give Ormond their first loss.

Ajax vs Latrobe 91-98
Also La Trobe winning a very unconvincingly with Ajax having 8 more scoring shots than them in which I have had no real word on how the match was perhaps the la trobe player who comes on can tell us about it. With La Trobe getting over the line by 7 points.

Bentleigh vs Emmaus St Leos 150-70
Bentleigh dominated the whole game, far too physical and fast for Emmaus St Leo's who are being known as the percentage team. Bentleigh although was far from their best and was their worst performance for the year so far (maybe on par with their ormond game). Stray kicking did effect them constantly with Bentleigh only really hitting their straps in the last quater piling on the goals making the scoreboard look a bit more attractive.

On a side note: Emmaus look far too outclased in this division getting promoted from division 5 (red) section to section 3 which has proved costly after Emmaus only losing 1 game for the year last year.

Oakleigh vs OEG 133-50
Oakleigh as expected beat them by a decent margin although just like bentleigh was never really convincing in the game... At times turning it on like a premiership contender only to start cruising once more. They really look good when they're firing but in this particular game just like Bentleigh their kicking was wayward in front of goal. Oakleigh's midfield was dominant and backline pretty solid but expecting more than that this week....

St Bedes Mentone vs Melbourne High OB 235-8
Really was an absolute farce of a match. Melbourne High promoting 4-5 players to their seniors from last week only added to the destruction mentone inflicted on the hapless high school who could do nothing right in a game they got smashed in by a far better in every way team. Mentone looked likely all day (obviously) winning in EVERY department. 54 scoring shots to 3 pretty much sums up this match. St Bedes having a few TAC Players playing due to the Vic Metro tryouts in which they have a couple trying out for also. This was one of those matches where it shows what a dominant force Mentone are but after saying that against a very depleted Melbourne High line up and perhaps even overrated Melbourne High lineup.

Preview
Bentleigh vs St Bedes =too close to call
Old Ivanhoe vs Emmaus St Leos = 15 goals smashing
Old Essendon Grammarians vs Ajax fc = will win by 6 goals
La Trobe vs Ormond = 6 goals
Melbourne High vs Oakleigh = (depending on the Melbourne Hugh lineup) could be 5 goals or 15

P.S No offence to the guy who rights the previews and reviews in the VAFA Guide he really does not know much about this section and looks at the results....

[Knight Rider]

Yeah every time I read his report he just talks absolute rubbish!

Looks like Old Ivanhoe are ready to make a move on the comp and perhaps Old Essendon can do likewise this week against Ajax. Given both teams were strong AGSV sides last season, I'm tipping them so start playing good football. Also remember that these teams seniors are in A/B Grade so good players will be in the seniors regularly.

[The Big Pineapple]

Also remember that these teams seniors are in A/B Grade so good players will be in the seniors regularly.
Disagree KR.

Shouldn't teams in A & B grade rely on senior talent instead of taking players from the 19's? 1 or 2 players in the seniors at any one time but that's it. Any more than that shows that a club has no depth.

[Kibe]

Settle fellas was a big week in Under 19 divi three football.

Review
Ormond vs Old Ivanhoe 57-106
Old Ivanhoe stamped athority in EE Gun Reserve that was a massive upset IMO. Ormond obviously have 3-5 guys promoted to the Seniors but that does not slide when you're meant ot be a contender... Perhaps I underestimated the hoers losing to Oakleigh and Bedes is no shame at all both very strong sides. The game in all reports was dominated by Old Ivanhoe winning every quater quite convincing puting there body in much harder and seemed far too physical at times. The hoers victorious by 49 points to give Ormond their first loss.

Ajax vs Latrobe 91-98
Also La Trobe winning a very unconvincingly with Ajax having 8 more scoring shots than them in which I have had no real word on how the match was perhaps the la trobe player who comes on can tell us about it. With La Trobe getting over the line by 7 points.

Bentleigh vs Emmaus St Leos 150-70
Bentleigh dominated the whole game, far too physical and fast for Emmaus St Leo's who are being known as the percentage team. Bentleigh although was far from their best and was their worst performance for the year so far (maybe on par with their ormond game). Stray kicking did effect them constantly with Bentleigh only really hitting their straps in the last quater piling on the goals making the scoreboard look a bit more attractive.

On a side note: Emmaus look far too outclased in this division getting promoted from division 5 (red) section to section 3 which has proved costly after Emmaus only losing 1 game for the year last year.

Oakleigh vs OEG 133-50
Oakleigh as expected beat them by a decent margin although just like bentleigh was never really convincing in the game... At times turning it on like a premiership contender only to start cruising once more. They really look good when they're firing but in this particular game just like Bentleigh their kicking was wayward in front of goal. Oakleigh's midfield was dominant and backline pretty solid but expecting more than that this week....

St Bedes Mentone vs Melbourne High OB 235-8
Really was an absolute farce of a match. Melbourne High promoting 4-5 players to their seniors from last week only added to the destruction mentone inflicted on the hapless high school who could do nothing right in a game they got smashed in by a far better in every way team. Mentone looked likely all day (obviously) winning in EVERY department. 54 scoring shots to 3 pretty much sums up this match. St Bedes having a few TAC Players playing due to the Vic Metro tryouts in which they have a couple trying out for also. This was one of those matches where it shows what a dominant force Mentone are but after saying that against a very depleted Melbourne High line up and perhaps even overrated Melbourne High lineup.

Preview
Bentleigh vs St Bedes =too close to call
Old Ivanhoe vs Emmaus St Leos = 15 goals smashing
Old Essendon Grammarians vs Ajax fc = will win by 6 goals
La Trobe vs Ormond = 6 goals
Melbourne High vs Oakleigh = (depending on the Melbourne Hugh lineup) could be 5 goals or 15

P.S No offence to the guy who rights the previews and reviews in the VAFA Guide he really does not know much about this section and looks at the results....

Feel it is my duty to defend St.Leo's! I know from an inside source that they have kept only 2 of their premiership squad from last year, and both those two are out injured - with the rest too old to play U/19's. some of those have gone to the seniors, other chasing money in the eastern league. Also, they have had their best 4 or 5 playing ones each week, given the way the ones are travelling with injuries etc.

They would be more than competitive with last years squad, however have a team of 90% first year under 19's. They are improving, however, and have heard they put some good passages of play together last week. Also, the 80 point margin flattered Bentleigh somewhat - 7 or 8 goals would have been a more reflective margin of the game.

They will surprise some teams later in the year, are improving and getting good numbers on the track. It will be a long year for them, but hopefully will get a couple of wins for the year!

[Knight Rider]

Disagree KR.

Shouldn't teams in A & B grade rely on senior talent instead of taking players from the 19's? 1 or 2 players in the seniors at any one time but that's it. Any more than that shows that a club has no depth.

some 19's might actually want to play in the seniors and could even be better players already than those who are in the senior squad.

however, totally agree it should be limited to 1 or 2 max!

[mightysainters]

Feel it is my duty to defend St.Leo's! I know from an inside source that they have kept only 2 of their premiership squad from last year, and both those two are out injured - with the rest too old to play U/19's. some of those have gone to the seniors, other chasing money in the eastern league. Also, they have had their best 4 or 5 playing ones each week, given the way the ones are travelling with injuries etc.

They would be more than competitive with last years squad, however have a team of 90% first year under 19's. They are improving, however, and have heard they put some good passages of play together last week. Also, the 80 point margin flattered Bentleigh somewhat - 7 or 8 goals would have been a more reflective margin of the game.

They will surprise some teams later in the year, are improving and getting good numbers on the track. It will be a long year for them, but hopefully will get a couple of wins for the year!

Sorry will have to pull you up on that... Bentleigh should have mauled them but innacurate kicking was the factor that let St Leo's only trail by 6 or 7 goals until the last quater.
St Leo's realistically should of been beaten by well over 100 points like every other game they have played which I have witnessed a couple.

[Is that so]

So how where this weeks games boys, such a big comp with so little to say.
Finals bound: Oakleigh, St Bedes, Old Iva and not cpnvinced of any others as yet.

[Knight Rider]

So how where this weeks games boys, such a big comp with so little to say.
Finals bound: Oakleigh, St Bedes, Old Iva and not cpnvinced of any others as yet.

Saw Old Essendon got a win on the weekend, perhaps the AGSV teams will round out the 4 by years end...

They only lost to St Bedes by 50pts which was been very respectable given recent results by other teams.

[Max Leader]

VAFA ignore Under 19(3)

Nine selections in the final 48 - to be cut down to a final squad of 24

2 - StB
2 - OEG
2 - MHSOB
2 - AJAX
1 - Ormond
0 - Oakleigh - No room for the equal leading full forward
0 - OI - No room for the equal leading full forward

3 players from the top 4.

Must not think much of these teams!!!!

[GetSmart]

most of the players in the under 19 state squad dont even play in the 19's. Chisholm from ormond play's in the ones. Jenke for Ajax plays in the ones and Collins for St.bedes plays in the ones. That is saying that most of the players in the 19 (3) are not good enough to make the squad and if they were any good would be playing in the ones for there club.

[Irony]

I would have to say Oakleigh this week to beat St bedes in a top of the ladder match. Oakleigh just too strong with some Tac Cup players returning to the team.

[Nathan Brown #7]

I would have to say Oakleigh this week to beat St bedes in a top of the ladder match. Oakleigh just too strong with some Tac Cup players returning to the team.

Definatly game of the round. Im tipping St Bede's, i just feel they are the stronger team at the moment, definatly flying. How far ahead of the rest competition do you think these two teams are at the moment?

My top 4 at the moment i think would be

St bede's
Oakley
Ivanhoe
Bentleigh/Ormand (will be easier to tell this week after the Ivanhoe vs Bentleigh whose the best side out of these 3 teams.)

MHSOB
PEGS
La trobe
Ajax (probably second last) - 2 state players?
Emmaus (last)

[Is that so]

VAFA ignore Under 19(3)

Nine selections in the final 48 - to be cut down to a final squad of 24

2 - StB
2 - OEG
2 - MHSOB
2 - AJAX
1 - Ormond
0 - Oakleigh - No room for the equal leading full forward
0 - OI - No room for the equal leading full forward

3 players from the top 4.

Must not think much of these teams!!!!

Oakleigh FF more about the delivery that his ability.
OI FF not a genuine tall well stuctured team who craet eth mismatch to free him up - How many contested marks does he take?

As someone else already said the best U19s are probably playing seniors or shoud be pushing them selces up to be.

[Knight Rider]

Oakleigh FF more about the delivery that his ability.
OI FF not a genuine tall well stuctured team who craet eth mismatch to free him up - How many contested marks does he take?

As someone else already said the best U19s are probably playing seniors or shoud be pushing them selces up to be.

The Oakleigh FF should do well judging but how old he looks...the hands of time haven't been kind!

[The Slitherin' Snake]

The Oakleigh FF should do well judging but how old he looks...the hands of time haven't been kind!
Are you suggesting someone is playing funny buggers with birth details down at Oakleigh

[pinelodge]

yeh i agree this "state sqaud" they are putting together baffles me. They pick blokes playing C & D1 grade seniors and leave blokes out who play for A & B grade club's who cant break into the seniors cos their seniors are too strong. If ur playing for Ajax and u rate urself ud wana be playing seniors. Our full forward has jagged 20 something in 5 games and they've given him doughnuts. The coach of the state team had the nerve to tell one of our blokes whose an U/19 playing A grade seniors that they wouldnt pick him in the squad cos he wasnt doing enough in the seniors. Marcellin also have a few gun U/19 boys playing seniors who are guns that didnt get a look in either. So congrats if u make the team but dont start wearing the state shorts in the home and away rounds, thinking your the sh*t.

[leftfootkick]

Firstly i agree with a lot of whats been said, however i would like to put one thing straight.... its not the state coaches that pick the initial squad, its the club coaches that elect upto 2 players from their u/19 list to make up the original state squad... in a few circumstances, 3 have been put down but the VAFA usual needs written explaination why theres a 3rd one. Than once the original squad is announced the actual STATE COACH comes into play and starts looking at the talent given to him to cut it to a final 48 than a final 23.

On another note, this should be another big in u/19 (3) football, oakleigh vs st. bedes IS clearly match of the round but IMO the ivanhoe v bentleigh game should b a season teller for who gets that vital 3rd or 4th spot when finals come. Its between IVANHOE, BENTLEIGH and ORMOND, who'll be there??????????

[Willo06]

i have a few questions...
is st bedes team the same team that was on the feild rounds 1 and 2. over the past few weeks they have gone from a team winning by 10 goals, to a teams winning by 20 goals +. is there any major reason for this? my other question is how many u19s from the individual teams are playing in their seniors, and which division are thier seniors in... i belive come finals time several teams could be signifigantly improved due to the return of senior players. i know OI are an A grade side, and im assuming if they do have any u19s playing 1s, these players are going to be guns if they come back to the under 19s (3). i Have also heard melbourne have quiet a few boys playing seniors, does this explain there up and down results?

[Knight Rider]

I think district sides have an advantage over feeder school teams at the 19s level. District teams have been playing together throughout their juniors and perhaps view the 19s a final swan-song before playing at other clubs. Teams like St Bedes, Oakleigh, Bentleigh and Ormond are all strong but drop off at senior level whilst teams like Ivanhoe, MHSOB and Essendon are more competitive in the seniors.

[Willo06]

pinelodge u sound a bit upset and angry, did u not make this squad and belive u should have?

[Simpson. Homer]

Oakleigh FF more about the delivery that his ability.
OI FF not a genuine tall well stuctured team who craet eth mismatch to free him up - How many contested marks does he take?

As someone else already said the best U19s are probably playing seniors or shoud be pushing them selces up to be.

Your kidding me arent you!... do you actually watch the OI games week in week out or did you just see one... Ellis plays tall regardless of his height... the boys spring is sensational and he takes contested marks week in week out... as for mis matches, they dont play a very tall forward line, suggest you check your facts!

[Nathan Brown #7]

On another note, this should be another big in u/19 (3) football, oakleigh vs st. bedes IS clearly match of the round but IMO the ivanhoe v bentleigh game should b a season teller for who gets that vital 3rd or 4th spot when finals come. Its between IVANHOE, BENTLEIGH and ORMOND, who'll be there??????????

What a big week it was in football (under 19 section 3). Seems Oakley had a telling win against the might of St bede's... could this be the wheels starting to fall off ever so slighty, or is the might of Oakley starting to show its true colours?

Also the other big match of the round appeared to be nothing but a stroll in the park, Ivanhoe winning by close to 100 points... What does this tell us about the boys from bentleigh? Pretenders, or had a bad day? And the boys from Ivanhoe... The real deal? It's hard to tell where they are at for mine as they lost their first 2 games to the Heavyweights (St bede's and Oakley), However that may have just been them finding there feet... Time will tell i guess.

The goalkicking is very close at the moment aswell, With a few boys from the big clubs dominating. Ellis from ivanhoe 33, and Bodinar from St bedes 32. Big bad lee barrand had 27 up till last round, dont know how many he kicked this round...

[Simpson. Homer]

What a big week it was in football (under 19 section 3). Seems Oakley had a telling win against the might of St bede's... could this be the wheels starting to fall off ever so slighty, or is the might of Oakley starting to show its true colours?

Also the other big match of the round appeared to be nothing but a stroll in the park, Ivanhoe winning by close to 100 points... What does this tell us about the boys from bentleigh? Pretenders, or had a bad day? And the boys from Ivanhoe... The real deal? It's hard to tell where they are at for mine as they lost their first 2 games to the Heavyweights (St bede's and Oakley), However that may have just been them finding there feet... Time will tell i guess.

The goalkicking is very close at the moment aswell, With a few boys from the big clubs dominating. Ellis from ivanhoe 33, and Bodinar from St bedes 32. Big bad lee barrand had 27 up till last round, dont know how many he kicked this round...

Barrard with none so Ellis leads the way with 33 from Bodinar on 32... As for the OI under 19's the boys are moulding well, playing some good footy, with the heart they are showing watch them take it up to oakleigh and st bedes in the return matches.

[OEGB]

oeg to get there second win this week

will pump latrobe in 3 weeks to

[Is that so]

This weeks tips boys??

Oakleigh by 30pts.
OEG by 60pts
OI by 24pts.over inconsistency
St B over ajax plenty

[Cats fan 16]

oeg to get there second win this week

will pump latrobe in 3 weeks to
The only reason u might beat latrobe is that all thier players hav to go home over the holidays. latrobe hav a good side, and really should be 4-2 or 5-1, rather than 2-4. Should hav beaten MHSOB, oakleigh, and maybe ormond. Its just the fact that they cannot run out a whole game. Hav some very handy players tho.

[Knight Rider]

The only reason u might beat latrobe is that all thier players hav to go home over the holidays. latrobe hav a good side, and really should be 4-2 or 5-1, rather than 2-4. Should hav beaten MHSOB, oakleigh, and maybe ormond. Its just the fact that they cannot run out a whole game. Hav some very handy players tho.

You're an absolute clown Cats Fan 16! Good teams can run out games and obviously La Trobe can't so they aren't a good team. The results speak 2-4 and no amount of excuses will change that fact.

Also, if the players are dedicated to the team and its cause they wouldn't be going home to the farm for sheeping sheering season but rather staying to play.

[Cats fan 16]

You're an absolute clown Cats Fan 16! Good teams can run out games and obviously La Trobe can't so they aren't a good team. The results speak 2-4 and no amount of excuses will change that fact.

Also, if the players are dedicated to the team and its cause they wouldn't be going home to the farm for sheeping sheering season but rather staying to play.
Yeh i agree theres not a lot of dedication within the team, and that's fair enough, the whole team didnt no each other before this year and havent had any sort of preseason and that brings about an unfit team. It's a team of good players that can match it with the rest of the league, but simply can't finish off a game. We stuck it to Ivanhoe yesterday and were up at half time, but again had a shocking 2nd half and got belted in the end. Every game except st bedes, we have been in a winning position but couldnt cap off the game.

[Knight Rider]

Yeh i agree theres not a lot of dedication within the team, and that's fair enough, the whole team didnt no each other before this year and havent had any sort of preseason and that brings about an unfit team. It's a team of good players that can match it with the rest of the league, but simply can't finish off a game. We stuck it to Ivanhoe yesterday and were up at half time, but again had a shocking 2nd half and got belted in the end. Every game except st bedes, we have been in a winning position but couldnt cap off the game.

That's a good effort against Ivanhoe. What happened in the second half, just ran out of legs? What would you say are Ivanhoe's strenghts or weaknesses?

[mightysainters]

Another couple of interesting facts Ajax were up at quater time on St Bedes :rolleyes: but i think they then decided to wake up and smashed them. Bentleigh were very competitive with Oakleigh down by less than 3 goals at 3 quater time but then lost by 7 goals although was posted 9.
The expected results this week although thought Ormond would of beaten MH by more.

[OEGB]

Oeg Are Taking Shape Slowly With The 2 Captains Out One With A Injury The Other In The Ones They Re Organised A Forward Line Now That Can Kick Goals With A Big Body Target Up There Look For Some Better Results In The Next Comming Weeks.

Dont Dismiss The Boys From The Hill Players Are Comming Back Next Few Weeks

[Nathan Brown #7]

OEGB, i appreciate the effort youve gone into to add effect to that post (adding a capital letter before each word). I have heard both captains are out, Cerentonio and Wilson, both very good players.. when will these boys be back? The big body wouldnt happen to be Tanner would it, or is he still playing 1's also?

Im amazed to hear about ajax, thought St Bede's where an absolute class above. What has gotten into the boys as of late? Are they losing players, or starting to run out of legs that saw them get off to a ripper start so early in the season..

The Bentleigh vs Oakley clash would have been a physical one i would imagine, with Bentleigh playing there normal style of hard hitting (sometimes cheap shotting) football. How many did Barrand kick? Can anyone stop the big man? I know most teams struggle to find a way to, does anyone have a tactic that can?

It also seems that "Cats fan 16" was right about la-trobe not being able to run out a game. Good prediction by him, seeing as he called it mid last week, and then they were up against Ivanhoe at half time only to not score in the second half.. What happened there? i know la-trobe is a big ground but to be up at half time then not score is a pretty poor effort? Or did the Ivanhoe and St bede's boys both go out on the turps the friday night, and only switch on at half time.

[OEGB]

its not the big tanner we will improve

when we get the players back

[mightysainters]

I will comment on the key forwards and a couple of teams.
Big bustling Berrand kicked 5 is just a big boy with stickys. Yeh very physical game between Bentleigh and Oakleigh both teams very hard at the ball with Bentleigh practically without a bench by the end of the game perhaps why the flood gates opened.
Bentleigh are very under estimated IMO although just do not do the job against the big teams. They let other teams get their tail up and make it very hard for themselves. Oakleigh with their forwards are a very good team they have quick talls and also the mountain in Berrand who you must stop with Oakleigh's midfield very skillful with their delivery.
Old Ivanhoes Ellis is a very unassuming player with the hoers starting him as a forward pocket therefore taking the 3rd or 4th backman which he takes full advantage of. By the time you realise this he's already kicked 3 and ends on 5 every week.
St Bedes Bodinaar is a big bodied player with a good kick is tall and alright at ground level. He's okay in the air but with the matchups he attracts he always gets a big fullback who can't match it on ground level and he takes full advantage of this. St Bedes dominant midfield and superior delivery like Oakleigh although to a lesser extent always create many oppurtunities.

[chelsworthgale]

I will comment on the key forwards and a couple of teams.
Big bustling Berrand kicked 5 is just a big boy with stickys. Yeh very physical game between Bentleigh and Oakleigh both teams very hard at the ball with Bentleigh practically without a bench by the end of the game perhaps why the flood gates opened.
Bentleigh are very under estimated IMO although just do not do the job against the big teams. They let other teams get their tail up and make it very hard for themselves. Oakleigh with their forwards are a very good team they have quick talls and also the mountain in Berrand who you must stop with Oakleigh's midfield very skillful with their delivery.
Old Ivanhoes Ellis is a very unassuming player with the hoers starting him as a forward pocket therefore taking the 3rd or 4th backman which he takes full advantage of. By the time you realise this he's already kicked 3 and ends on 5 every week.
St Bedes Bodinaar is a big bodied player with a good kick is tall and alright at ground level. He's okay in the air but with the matchups he attracts he always gets a big fullback who can't match it on ground level and he takes full advantage of this. St Bedes dominant midfield and superior delivery like Oakleigh although to a lesser extent always create many oppurtunities.

just because a bloke starts in the FP doesnt mean he gets the 3rd or 4th backman, sounds very under 10's... everyone plays in their position with talls on smalls all cause the coach says your in the BP... ellis is a genuine gun and can play tall or short, also depends on the night before and how many drinks he sank also loves a stroll on the ball!

[leftfootkick]

This Weeks Matches see's:

Emmaus -v- MHSOB
Ivanhoe Gr -v- Essendon Gr
Ormond -v- St. Bedes
La Trobe -v- Bentleigh
Ajax -v- Oakleigh

Should be a good week of footy in the U/19 (3)... will be good to see who comes of from the 2 week break strong and ready to pounce and who comes off that couch of theres with the stubby still stuck in their hand.

Ormond v St. Bedes should be a great game... will show where the 2 sides stand side by side and if either are the real deal. Oakleigh should have another percentage booster a long with Ivanhoe. In my view Emmaus could show an upset downing MHSOB and Bentleigh might struggle to La Trobe, but a win there will still keep their chances come finals.

[mightysainters]

Emmaus -v- MHSOB 10 goals
Ivanhoe Gr -v- Essendon Gr A smashing enough said
Ormond -v- St. Bedes upset on the cards IMO
La Trobe -v- Bentleigh Bentleigh by a couple of goals
Ajax -v- Oakleigh Look at Ivanhoe game

Sorry leftfootkick the only upset that might occur is Ormond over St Bedes.... Melbourne high will smash Emmaus IMO

[pinelodge]

The hoers will more than likely regain Terry nicola (#4) this week which will surely give them a further boost through the wing.

[chelsworthgale]

The hoers will more than likely regain Terry nicola (#4) this week which will surely give them a further boost through the wing.

Surely thats a 5 or 6 goal inclusion, must feel for OE just cant take a trick

[Cats fan 16]

Emmaus -v- MHSOB 10 goals
Ivanhoe Gr -v- Essendon Gr A smashing enough said
Ormond -v- St. Bedes upset on the cards IMO
La Trobe -v- Bentleigh Bentleigh by a couple of goals
Ajax -v- Oakleigh Look at Ivanhoe game

Sorry leftfootkick the only upset that might occur is Ormond over St Bedes.... Melbourne high will smash Emmaus IMO
Looks like ur eating ur own words. An incredible display of football by the boys at latrobe, smashing Bentleigh (in an 'upset') into the ground, but not capatilasing on the scoreboard. Cant remember the final scores, but it was something like; Latrobe 10.23 to Bentleigh 8.5. If that latrobe team comes to play like that again, there could be a few more upsets in the brink.

[mightysainters]

i'm eating my words? i said ormond are the ones to be close to an upset 3 points mate.... La Trobe beat Bentleigh by a couple of goals because Bentleigh were without a few of their top line players in which I was not aware of until I was told after the match... And in no way was it a thumping as in the match report it says you boys were down by 4 goals until Bentleigh started to crumble. La Trobe can't make the finals anyway and same goes for Bentleigh. La Trobe only beats teams and gets close to them because their ground is a circle....Ormond really took it to St Bedes yersterday and was a very close game, could of gone either way but St Bedes fought on to win a great game.
Melbourne High smashed Emmaus like previously stated and the same goes for the Hoers...

[leftfootkick]

Anyone willing to give any match reports from todays matchs.