View Full Version : Brent Moloney vs Corey Enright
davey_magik
6 Apr 2006, 15:01
Well?
Don't think Daniher did him any favours in the press.
carn_the_cattas
6 Apr 2006, 17:41
Enright by alot, thats why Moloney was traded not Enright (or anyone else).
smelly cat
6 Apr 2006, 18:06
Moloney is tough and effective, but really just a one trick player-
Get the ball, run 15 metres, kick 60. Very effective. Did it at Geelong, still doing it at melbourne. Gives Melbourne a hardness they desparately need.
Enright is bigger bodied IMO but is also a little more creative, skillfull and versatile- can play defense or midfield. At times he can over possess it (but who doesn't?), but on the whole he is better overhead and his disposal is more dangerous also. Was on track to win GFC best and fairest before he got injured last year.
Moloney is tough and effective, but really just a one trick player-
Get the ball, run 15 metres, kick 60. Very effective. Did it at Geelong, still doing it at melbourne. Gives Melbourne a hardness they desparately need.
Enright is bigger bodied IMO but is also a little more creative, skillfull and versatile- can play defense or midfield. At times he can over possess it (but who doesn't?), but on the whole he is better overhead and his disposal is more dangerous also. Was on track to win GFC best and fairest before he got injured last year.
Did I read in the Herald Sun today that he has the most long kicks in the comp.... and the most resulting in Goals to the opposition :thumbsd:
Enright by a mile.
goDees22
6 Apr 2006, 18:22
Moloney is tough and effective, but really just a one trick player-
Get the ball, run 15 metres, kick 60. Very effective. Did it at Geelong, still doing it at melbourne. Gives Melbourne a hardness they desparately need.
Enright is bigger bodied IMO but is also a little more creative, skillfull and versatile- can play defense or midfield. At times he can over possess it (but who doesn't?), but on the whole he is better overhead and his disposal is more dangerous also. Was on track to win GFC best and fairest before he got injured last year.
i wouldn't say he has better disposal than moloney, but hes a betterplayer
goDees22
6 Apr 2006, 18:25
Did I read in the Herald Sun today that he has the most long kicks in the comp.... and the most resulting in Goals to the opposition :thumbsd:
that was a pretty stupid stat. He doesn't turn the ball over ie. kick to opposition player who kicks a goal. Im pretty sure its because he kicks long to a contest (i'll explain later what that is) that the opposition get it and get a goal without melbourne touching it again. he is an oldschool footballer and tries to play the footy we all like to see, that is probably why enright is more valuable, but moloney is great to watch and probably my favourite player.
Was worth more at the trade table than enright tho i reckon cos hes a fair bit younger isnt he?
iameviljez
6 Apr 2006, 18:35
Was worth more at the trade table than enright tho i reckon cos hes a fair bit younger isnt he?
Younger by two years, I think.
Rumour goes that at the trade table Port offered their own first pick to us in exchange for Enright, which would have also gotten us Ottens, but Geelong preferred him to Moloney.
davey_magik
6 Apr 2006, 18:40
Did I read in the Herald Sun today that he has the most long kicks in the comp.... and the most resulting in Goals to the opposition :thumbsd:
Enright by a mile.
Also the leading inside 50 player and one of the leading goal assist players last year. Not many players can nail a 55-60m pass like he can.
Remember the game at Skilled? Who do you think was feeding Robbo that game?
Enright is two years older but doesn't have much to show for it. I rate him but he gets an awful lot of cheap stats when Geelong play their overpossession game. He would be a better mark (I've never seen him take a contested mark but then again marking isn't a strong point of Beamers) but I'd rather Beamer for kicking, hardball gets and leadership.
chapmanmagic35
6 Apr 2006, 18:40
Enright...
ablettjnr
6 Apr 2006, 19:03
Enright is two years older but doesn't have much to show for it.
Was leading our B&F last year and was most definitely in AA contention until he was injured. He has plenty to show for it, but injuries have cut his career nearly in half.
scottydeewah
7 Apr 2006, 08:44
Moloney is good in Melbourne team cause
THEIR MIDFIELD IS ********ING ********HOUSE!
Enright will be very useful for us again this year on our road to the finals. Moloney will star for Melbourne as their team struggles. Good bloke but couldnt care less that he left. Enright BY A ********ING MILE!
A lot of Geelong players would come out ahead of Beamer, which is why we traded him to get Ottens. Beamer is good but wouldn't be a walk up start to our best 22.
My favourite Beamer memory from last season was the way he was looking at the Cat side after that final last year..kind of reminded me of Justin Murphy after his last game for Geelong at Optus.
Moloney is good in Melbourne team cause
THEIR MIDFIELD IS ********ING ********HOUSE!
Enright will be very useful for us again this year on our road to the finals. Moloney will star for Melbourne as their team struggles. Good bloke but couldnt care less that he left. Enright BY A ********ING MILE!
I wouldnt say that our midfield is **** house we have better midfielders in our team than Moloney such as Trav,Bruce and Mclean and Sylvia will be better players.
Enright is two years older but doesn't have much to show for it. I rate him but he gets an awful lot of cheap stats when Geelong play their overpossession game.
What a load of crap.
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nananana catman
7 Apr 2006, 10:07
Moloney Moloney the one trick pony.
He is far from tough also...
Enright by a mile.
Enright for mine. If he wasn't struck down with injuries over the past few years this wouldn't even come up.
Enright will show this year why he was held in a higher regard than Moloney. I've got no dramas with Bitzer (Maloney) coz he's tough, hard and straight at it kind of player. The kind of player that was lacking at the Dees.
Enright is a class above. He is deceptivley tall and as a result very good overhead. Has good disposal and can run all day. He's one of the better finishers at the cats and if he stays injury free he'll be close to winning the B & F this year.
davey_magik
7 Apr 2006, 11:03
What a load of crap.
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Are you saying Geelong don't play an overpossession game?
Cassius_Clay
7 Apr 2006, 13:02
Are you saying Geelong don't play an overpossession game?
Enright by an absolute mile!
catempire
7 Apr 2006, 22:30
Geez, that really backfired ay davey_magik?
Sylvia Saint
7 Apr 2006, 22:54
Pretty much all replies in this thread have been from Geelong fans, no bloody wonder Enright is winning the poll.
PS. I think the following poll is more relevant:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=163016
Oh god.
Two completely different players and put them in a poll, yeah thats more relevant.
cats2rise
7 Apr 2006, 23:04
Geez Davey_magik, Enright.
You are saying at this current time Moloney is better than Enright? Enright is solidly in our best 22, and is consistant. Moloney isnt consistant, and has only played a few years of footy.
Enright by a fair way, stupid poll IMO.
Ask this when Moloney has played as many games as Enright has, then we can make a fair assumption on who is better.
cats2rise
7 Apr 2006, 23:07
Pretty much all replies in this thread have been from Geelong fans, no bloody wonder Enright is winning the poll.
PS. I think the following poll is more relevant:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=163016
Thats because Davey_Magik tried to say this on the Geelong Board, and didnt like the answer he got. Me thinks he over-rates Moloney and under-rates Enright.
So Sylvia Saint, you honestly think moloney is better right now?
Sylvia Saint
7 Apr 2006, 23:20
Enright is probably better, but not by much.
(Moloney definetely better than Ottens)
Looking at the discussion on the Geelong Board, it's ridiculous that most of you are saying he wouldn't make the Cats side. The likes of Nathan Ablett, Rooke, Tenace, Byrnes, Wojcinski and Riccardi would NOT be ahead of Moloney. One guy even suggested that Varcoe and Prismall were ahead of him. :confused:
I can concede that he'd only be your 6th or so best midfielder, but he would definitely be in Geelong's best 22, and any teams 22 for that matter.
Looking at the discussion on the Geelong Board, it's ridiculous that most of you are saying he wouldn't make the Cats side. The likes of Nathan Ablett, Rooke, Tenace, Byrnes, Wojcinski and Riccardi would NOT be ahead of Moloney. One guy even suggested that Varcoe and Prismall were ahead of him. :confused:
Riccardi [classy pinch hitter off the bench],Wojcinski [a running defender who is only out of the 22 because he's on the comeback from a knee reco] & Rooke [a tagger or halfback/back pocket] would all be ahead of him.
A lot of Geelong players would come out ahead of Beamer, which is why we traded him to get Ottens. Beamer is good but wouldn't be a walk up start to our best 22.
My favourite Beamer memory from last season was the way he was looking at the Cat side after that final last year..kind of reminded me of Justin Murphy after his last game for Geelong at Optus.
Bullocks, Geelong traded Moloney to get Ottens because Melbourne wanted specifically wanted him, no other player, and yes he would walk into the current Geelong lineup.
The sad thing is that you don't need to create crap like this to add weight to your arguement, it's pretty obvious that Enright is the better player, Moloney is a perfect fit for us which is why we wanted him, but that doesn't change the fact that Enright is better.
Stick to the facts kiddo and people will respect you for it.
My favourite Tweek moment last year was round 3 when he spent the entire night intimidating the opposition.
We dont need another midfielder such a Moloney in our team. We have plently of midfielder who are of better quality anyhow.
Moloney is a good player who stands out in a very soft Melbourne team because of his hardness, attack on the ball and long kicks.
Round 3 last year? When he knocked Jimmy out? Good on him.
My favorite is the Elimination final. Didnt see much of him that day :thumbsu:
Feel sorry for the Bloke, being traded to Melbourne :eek: the poor bugger.
LongBomb
8 Apr 2006, 01:16
Is this a joke poll?
Enright by so far it isn't even funny.
(Moloney definetely better than Ottens)
Except that he can't ruck, take pack marks or kick goals. :rolleyes:
goDees22
8 Apr 2006, 15:05
Except that he can't ruck, take pack marks or kick goals. :rolleyes:
neither can ottens:D . I think Enright is a better player atm, Moloney has more room to improve though. Those Geelong people who come up with the stats to try to prove beamer wouldnt get a game are idiots. When we beat u guys by about 8 goals in round 3 last year u had 50 more possesions overall, we play long and direct footy (although not anymore it would seem)
http://livescores.afl.com.au/livestats-10130301.html 335 disposals to 286. Proving that u guys chip it around a lot more and moloney would average a lot more possies in your team
celtic_pride
8 Apr 2006, 15:33
Has gotta be Enright by a fair way really.
smelly cat
8 Apr 2006, 18:30
Bullocks, Geelong traded Moloney to get Ottens because Melbourne wanted specifically wanted him, no other player, and yes he would walk into the current Geelong lineup.
I'm sorry we disagree with you, but I just don't believe Moloney would make the current Geelong side.
He wouldn't fit into the backline (Scarlett, Hunt, Egan, Milburn, D.Johnson, Mooney, Rooke)
He's not a forward (Kingsley, Chapman, Ablett, S. Johnson, Playfair, Mackie)
He's not a ruckman (Blake, King, Ottens)
And there are at least 6 onballers in our side better than Moloney (Corey, Ling, Enright, Tenace, Bartel, Kelly)
So no, he's be in the twos.
But I'm very happy for him that he is getting so much time in the middle for the dees and become such an important player to them. I've always admired his commitment to the contest.
goDees22
8 Apr 2006, 23:51
pfft. Tenace? You absolute liar. Thats parrot-esque bull********. Moloney would get a game for you, just admit it. He is in your best 6 midfielders and if not, he would definitely be on your bench at the absolute very worst
pfft. Tenace? You absolute liar. Thats parrot-esque bull********. Moloney would get a game for you, just admit it. He is in your best 6 midfielders and if not, he would definitely be on your bench at the absolute very worst
How did Moloney play today?
Would prefer Tenaces speed over Moloney esp how the game is played these days.
He would probably fit on our bench though, I'll admit that.
cats2rise
9 Apr 2006, 00:31
pfft. Tenace? You absolute liar. Thats parrot-esque bull********. Moloney would get a game for you, just admit it. He is in your best 6 midfielders and if not, he would definitely be on your bench at the absolute very worst
So he would be no better off, and Enright would be starting on the field, ahead of him, as he is the better player. Case Closed
Unwritten_Law
9 Apr 2006, 11:28
pfft. Tenace? You absolute liar. Thats parrot-esque bull********. Moloney would get a game for you, just admit it. He is in your best 6 midfielders and if not, he would definitely be on your bench at the absolute very worst
He would take the very last position on our bench, nothing more. Melbourne supporters claim he would EASILY make our team. Not true.
davey_magik
9 Apr 2006, 20:00
How did Moloney play today?
Would prefer Tenaces speed over Moloney esp how the game is played these days.
He would probably fit on our bench though, I'll admit that.
I'd prefer Moloneys disposal and toughness. Though Geelong need pace more so.
pfft. Tenace? You absolute liar. Thats parrot-esque bull********. Moloney would get a game for you, just admit it. He is in your best 6 midfielders and if not, he would definitely be on your bench at the absolute very worst
Enright League. Maloney magoos for club ranked 15th on the ladder. Here endeth the lesson. Try watching some football for a change.
iameviljez
15 Apr 2006, 09:48
pfft. Tenace? You absolute liar. Thats parrot-esque bull********. Moloney would get a game for you, just admit it. He is in your best 6 midfielders and if not, he would definitely be on your bench at the absolute very worst
Disagree with the first part. I can see how some would feel that Moloney would not get a start down at Geelong but I do feel that if he played for us then he would play, we would find a spot for him, but Shannon Byrnes may not be too impressed.
goDees22
15 Apr 2006, 17:42
Enright League. Maloney magoos for club ranked 15th on the ladder. Here endeth the lesson. Try watching some football for a change.
Moloney is only there because our coach is a dumbass and Moloney had no preseason.
chapmanmagic35
16 Apr 2006, 01:55
Also the leading inside 50 player and one of the leading goal assist players last year. Not many players can nail a 55-60m pass like he can.
Remember the game at Skilled? Who do you think was feeding Robbo that game?
Enright is two years older but doesn't have much to show for it. I rate him but he gets an awful lot of cheap stats when Geelong play their overpossession game. He would be a better mark (I've never seen him take a contested mark but then again marking isn't a strong point of Beamers) but I'd rather Beamer for kicking, hardball gets and leadership.
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Melbourne Toffee
18 Apr 2006, 14:59
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a better poll be Moloney v the player that Geelong were also thinking of trading to Melbourne as part of the Ottens deal (Kane Tenance??). Obviously at this stage Enright is a better player he has had more experience. And to correct the Geelong supporters Moloney didn't play in the twos on Sunday (he must be injured - not dropped)....
Bentleigh
18 Apr 2006, 15:15
Corey Enright. Easy.
davey_magik
27 May 2006, 20:28
Moloney is certainly having a better year, and he has still been inconsistent.
cats2rise
27 May 2006, 20:37
Moloney is certainly having a better year, and he has still been inconsistent.
Have you thought that maybe thats because your team is up the top end of the ladder, while ours is at the otehr end of the ladder.
Seriously, Enright is the better player. Moloney hasnt proved enough yet
chapmanmagic35
27 May 2006, 22:14
Moloney is certainly having a better year, and he has still been inconsistent.
Wasn't he playing for Sandy a few weeks ago???? :confused:
Sylvia Saint
27 May 2006, 22:35
Hasn't played a single game in the VFL this year.
cats2rise
27 May 2006, 22:48
Hasn't played a single game in the VFL this year.
He was named to play in the VFL but was injured.. i think :confused:
davey_magik
27 May 2006, 23:21
Have you thought that maybe thats because your team is up the top end of the ladder, while ours is at the otehr end of the ladder.
Seriously, Enright is the better player. Moloney hasnt proved enough yet
If you use that excuse Enright sounds like a frontrunner.
Beamer played well in our losing streak last year and was one of the few who could hold his head high during that period.
Proved enough? What has Enright ever proved? He is 25 and I don't see him getting any better, and he has a 5th in the B&F in 2004 to show for all that.
demondude
27 May 2006, 23:21
i think enright would struggle to fit in our midfield to be honest
bruce,green,mclean,mcdonald,jonhstone imo are all better than enright...im sorry cats fans but enright is seriously OVERATED! just lyk many of the players in ur team...shame on the cats fan who said our midfield was crap, shame shame it is actually one of the best in the comp
chapmanmagic35
27 May 2006, 23:25
If you use that excuse Enright sounds like a frontrunner.
Beamer played well in our losing streak last year and was one of the few who could hold his head high during that period.
Proved enough? What has Enright ever proved? He is 25 and I don't see him getting any better, and he has a 5th in the B&F in 2004 to show for all that.
Been ravaged by injuries...
Instead of making an ill-informed judgement, please watch him play.
chapmanmagic35
27 May 2006, 23:26
i think enright would struggle to fit in our midfield to be honest
bruce,green,mclean,mcdonald,jonhstone imo are all better than enright...im sorry cats fans but enright is seriously OVERATED! just lyk many of the players in ur team...shame on the cats fan who said our midfield was crap, shame shame it is actually one of the best in the comp
You seriously have no idea...some of your views on AFL football are questionable to say the least.
goDees22
28 May 2006, 17:02
You seriously have no idea...some of your views on AFL football are questionable to say the least.
agreed, although this poll is also pretty dumb, Enright is in a slump atm, and over the course of their careers has been better, but he is older, and in time i reckon Moloney will overtake him. I hope.
davey_magik
28 May 2006, 20:47
Been ravaged by injuries...
Instead of making an ill-informed judgement, please watch him play.
I have. And he's been crap this year excluding perhaps the first two weeks, but the whole Geelong side was playing well then.
chapmanmagic35
28 May 2006, 21:19
I have. And he's been crap this year excluding perhaps the first two weeks, but the whole Geelong side was playing well then.
You obviously haven't...
cats2rise
28 May 2006, 22:01
I have. And he's been crap this year excluding perhaps the first two weeks, but the whole Geelong side was playing well then.
And Moloney sure has been setting the world on fire.....:rolleyes:
Moloney is probably having the better year, but only just. But he isnt a better player. Yet.
cats2rise
28 May 2006, 22:02
i think enright would struggle to fit in our midfield to be honest
bruce,green,mclean,mcdonald,jonhstone imo are all better than enright...im sorry cats fans but enright is seriously OVERATED! just lyk many of the players in ur team...shame on the cats fan who said our midfield was crap, shame shame it is actually one of the best in the comp
Moloney would be having more trouble trying to fit into Geelong. WEll not at the moment as we are a rabble, but with a semi good geelong team, i think he would have been pushed to the way side. He would be getting games, but in no way would be a regular IMO.
Moloney would be having more trouble trying to fit into Geelong. WEll not at the moment as we are a rabble, but with a semi good geelong team, i think he would have been pushed to the way side. He would be getting games, but in no way would be a regular IMO.
That's pretty funny actually, considering Moloney's current form and that of Geelong's, he'd easily be top ten in your B&F so far this season if he still played for Geelong.
In reality Enright is a better player than Moloney (although this season Moloney has been better due to injury to Enright) but the suggestion that Moloney wouldn't make Geelong's team is laughable.