View Full Version : Cuddles rumour - sacked by rd 7
Terry Tan
11 Apr 2006, 19:42
There was a rumour announced on a sport radio station (SEN) in Melbourne by Andrew Maher that if the Dockers didn't fire by rd 7, then Cuddles will be sacked and the new coach is Harvey.
I'm not sure if Mark Harvey would be any better.
Freo Shark
11 Apr 2006, 20:23
There was a rumour announced on a sport radio station (SEN) in Melbourne by Andrew Maher that if the Dockers didn't fire by rd 7, then Cuddles will be sacked and the new coach is Harvey.
I'm not sure if Mark Harvey would be any better.
Hmmm where do you think Wallet will be by round 7 ??
Good guess would be covered in saliva.
dockers_bengals
11 Apr 2006, 20:48
he is up to round seven now,they,re going out on a limb aren't they.if we win next week it will be round eight or will it be never ,i doubt it would be never.
malpaso
11 Apr 2006, 20:52
There was a rumour announced on a sport radio station (SEN) in Melbourne by Andrew Maher that if the Dockers didn't fire by rd 7, then Cuddles will be sacked and the new coach is Harvey.
I'm not sure if Mark Harvey would be any better.
4 very difficult games coming up. We lose all 4 and CC is gone. We break even and we are ok :)
We beat the Eagles and lose the other 3 and CC is a bloody genius!!! :thumbsu:
dockers_bengals
11 Apr 2006, 21:00
I dont think its losses as much as the size of the loss and the way we play that will decide his fate.interesting how the media chase one coach yet daniher seems to be alright:confused: ,malthouse and sheedy must be sweating a bit as well.
Hmmm where do you think Wallet will be by round 7 ??
Good guess would be covered in saliva.
He will still be coaching an AFL side unlike connolly who will be out on his fat ass
Freo Shark
11 Apr 2006, 21:38
He will still be coaching an AFL side unlike connolly who will be out on his fat ass
Oooh thats nasty :rolleyes:
But then we know how tough Richmond fans are :D
Kapow!!!
11 Apr 2006, 21:40
Let me guess, it's the same rumour that's happened at this very same time for the past two season?
Give him to the end of the season to prove himself. Sacking coaches during season = No Finals. Now he's got a better coaching staff I'd back him, it's up to the players to actually want it!
Adrian Shelton
11 Apr 2006, 21:46
None of the other 1-1 or 0-2 coaches are under the hammer are they? why pick on Chris alone? no wonder i read these forums 90% of the time instead of the 'accredited' media!
TheReason
11 Apr 2006, 21:57
We beat the Eagles and lose the other 3 and CC is a bloody genius!!! :thumbsu:
You should be worried about playing finals, not beating the Eagles.
Don't be so WCE obsessed.
There was a rumour announced on a sport radio station (SEN) in Melbourne by Andrew Maher that if the Dockers didn't fire by rd 7, then Cuddles will be sacked and the new coach is Harvey.
I'm not sure if Mark Harvey would be any better.
Did you tip them off to distract a bit of the spotlight ,Terry Tan?
wehavethepassion
11 Apr 2006, 22:21
Oooh thats nasty :rolleyes:
But then we know how tough Richmond fans are :D
They are getting ready for the "Wallace BBQ" they do eat their own don't they?
wehavethepassion
11 Apr 2006, 22:56
There was a rumour announced on a sport radio station (SEN) in Melbourne by Andrew Maher that if the Dockers didn't fire by rd 7, then Cuddles will be sacked and the new coach is Harvey.
I'm not sure if Mark Harvey would be any better.
Yes harvey has played in 3 prem sides, over 200 AFL games and been an assistant for 7 odd yrs. But he has played and coached under sheedy. he has been a one club player/assistant coach.
If we see a change it is coming from Shaw.
I wouldn't say CC is a complete disaster when compared to the other coaches for the same time frame. Where he has got to improve and take the next step for the club is to now consistently make the 8 so we can get finals experience. Check out these stats , he is about middle of the road with a 50/50 record. If you were to go back in Freo's history,he is easily the most successful coach at the club. Having said that he does not seem to have improved his 50/50 record and this year would be his last chance.
http://allthestats.com/coaches/wlrecord.php?yrfm=2002&yrto=2006&min=30
Neale Daniher,Mick Malthouse,Rodney Eade,Terry Wallace,Denis Pagan , have all got a worse record.
I wouldn't say CC is a complete disaster when compared to the other coaches for the same time frame. Where he has got to improve and take the next step for the club is to now consistently make the 8 so we can get finals experience. Check out these stats , he is about middle of the road with a 50/50 record. If you were to go back in Freo's history,he is easily the most successful coach at the club. Having said that he does not seem to have improved his 50/50 record and this year would be his last chance.
http://allthestats.com/coaches/wlrecord.php?yrfm=2002&yrto=2006&min=30
Neale Daniher,Mick Malthouse,Rodney Eade,Terry Wallace,Denis Pagan , have all got a worse record.
I don't think statistics mean anything concerning CC right now. The facts remain he has been in charge of a team that has underperformed. Its all well and good to say "the next step is to consistently make the 8", but that next next step should have been taken years ago.
Whether he can coach or not, that's irrelevant if you don't have the players support. Look at Eade, he was once a top coach, taking the Swans to the GF, then over time the players got sick of him and were not interested in playing under him. Poor performances and Eade was sacked. Roos comes in and the rest is history. Now Eade is also looking like a supercoach once again with a new club.
And we have made the mistake of hanging on to coaches too long. Would those who support CC now have been happy if we re-signed him to a new contract at the start of the year ... if he hadn't had that contract renewal a while back?
I'd like to think we can notch some wins up in the next few weeks, but on present form that is unlikely. If we are 1-5 or 1-6, Harvey should be given a go. I don't know if he is the right man, but it at least gives him some chance to show what he's got, rather than wait to the start of the next year.
Like someone said, he's at least played in flags, knows what it takes, is a legend of the game, a hard man, must have learnt a few tricks from Sheedy, and someone the players would respect from his on-field efforts. CC has none of those attributes.
The Dice Man
12 Apr 2006, 09:14
Hmmm where do you think Wallet will be by round 7 ??
Good guess would be covered in saliva.
Damn you're an idiot! He was only passing on what he heard on SEN as most Freo supporters probably wouldn't get to hear it. But you show how easily you are insulted by trying to attack his club.
Pathetically soft!:thumbsd:
Did you tip them off to distract a bit of the spotlight ,Terry Tan?
So are you.
Weak!
I don't think statistics mean anything concerning CC right now. The facts remain he has been in charge of a team that has underperformed. Its all well and good to say "the next step is to consistently make the 8", but that next next step should have been taken years ago.
Your argument implies that it is entirely the Coaches fault that the team has underperformed. Maybe just maybe some of the players in that team
aren't capable of playing any better. As a purely hypothetical exercise ask yourself this, how many of the Docker players do you honestly think would get a regular game at the Eagles and conversly how many of the Eagles players would get a regular game at the Dockers?
Freo Shark
12 Apr 2006, 09:43
Damn you're an idiot! He was only passing on what he heard on SEN as most Freo supporters probably wouldn't get to hear it. But you show how easily you are insulted by trying to attack his club.
Pathetically soft!:thumbsd:
So are you.
Weak!
Geez you Richmond supporters are a sensitive lot arent you !! :rolleyes:
We could have replied with alot more intensity, although it seems I touched a raw nerve with you lot !
back pocket
12 Apr 2006, 10:32
I swear to God, some of you "Fremantle" supporters are dead set HOPING Connolly fails, and gets sacked.
Get behind your club, your coach and your players, tell them what you think, sure, but ferchrisakes show a bit of faith and support, that's the best thing you can do. A lot of you have lost the plot on the back of 2 games, of which one was a comfortable win (Carlton were never going to win that, and they have improved out of sight), completely disregarding our solid pre-season form or the last half of last season, and listening to the likes of Hardie, George, Wally and co just a bit too much.
Just give it a rest and see how things pan out, we'll come good, but this club needs your support, not your constant bagging, you bunch of whingers.
They are getting ready for the "Wallace BBQ" they do eat their own don't they?
1 thats right 1 FINAL in 11 years. Connolly bin coach recruits front runners end of story
Dock_king
12 Apr 2006, 10:58
I agree with you back pocket, if CC is sacked now then we`ll have to endure another rebuilding process and 5 year plan.
In comparison Mark Thompson has been at the Cats 2 years longer than CC and is only starting to become successful. CC has turned this club around on and off the field with soaring memberships, sponsorships, a great squad with plenty of depth and it`s now time to reap the rewards.
If we miss the finals and play like crap(which I doubt) then he will have to go but that is a long way off.
Anyone that says he should be sacked now because we "didn`t win pretty on the weekend" can`t be a Freo supporter!!
1 thats right 1 FINAL in 11 years. Connolly bin coach recruits front runners end of story
What is the world coming to when Tigers fans are lecturing other teams about being mediocre?
Toots Hibbert
12 Apr 2006, 12:21
What is the world coming to when Tigers fans are lecturing other teams about being mediocre?
It's the same world that sees Dockers fans acting like traitors on the Port board....
I hope port give us a belting .The sooner we get rid of connelly the better he makes me sick
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=4860163
It's the same world that sees Dockers fans acting like traitors on the Port board....
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=4860163
That's about standard from him...he starts the day with a mantra hating CC
Dr Ralph Dagg
12 Apr 2006, 13:56
I agree with you back pocket, if CC is sacked now then we`ll have to endure another rebuilding process and 5 year plan.
In comparison Mark Thompson has been at the Cats 2 years longer than CC and is only starting to become successful. CC has turned this club around on and off the field with soaring memberships, sponsorships, a great squad with plenty of depth and it`s now time to reap the rewards.
If we miss the finals and play like crap(which I doubt) then he will have to go but that is a long way off.
I could handle a rebuilding like Adelaide or the Bulldogs. Yes, it is time to reap the rewards. But if we are 1 and 5 needing to win 11 from 16 you can probably kiss this year's rewards goodbye.
Anyone that says he should be sacked now because we "didn`t win pretty on the weekend" can`t be a Freo supporter!!
This is the line trotted out to stop any kind of dissent.
Even Connolly admits he's under pressure. And he has probably brought some of that on himself with his handling of the players.
And I think I floated this rumour back in December when I heard it. I seem to recall saying I heard this rumour and then being chastised for spreading the rumour even though I said it was rumour. Apparently, on BigFooty Freo, rumour doesn't mean rumour as Terry Tan is finding out.
Dock_king
12 Apr 2006, 16:27
Ralph, I`m not trying "to stop any kind of dissent", I just see it as we`re Freo supporters so we should be optimistic about our future and not go down the path of eating our own(ie. Richmond).
I don`t think CC has done anything wrong with the handling of the players but of course he`s under pressure to perform, as he should be. Apart from media speculation about a rift between coach and players, nothing I`ve seen or heard from the club supports this.
mathew20
12 Apr 2006, 17:45
That's about standard from him...he starts the day with a mantra hating CC
A good 10 goal bashing this week will send a clear message to cc from the players to ********** off. He is going to go no matter what faint glimmer of misguided hope some diminishing number of supporters have in him.Sharpen the axe use it and put someone in who has a couple of nuts
A good 10 goal bashing this week will send a clear message to cc from the players to ********** off. He is going to go no matter what faint glimmer of misguided hope some diminishing number of supporters have in him.Sharpen the axe use it and put someone in who has a couple of nuts
Mathew20...i presume that's your IQ..why don't u f*&k off & support another team
A good 10 goal bashing this week will send a clear message to cc from the players to ********** off. He is going to go no matter what faint glimmer of misguided hope some diminishing number of supporters have in him.Sharpen the axe use it and put someone in who has a couple of nuts
You are a tool...wishing a flogging on your team...so they pull off 3 or four wins out of the next few and he still goes? Wins 8 out of ten get rid of him?
mathew20
12 Apr 2006, 18:58
Mathew20...i presume that's your IQ..why don't u f*&k off & support another team
plugy what talent you have .When all the crap hits the fan and the dust settles and harvey turns this club around you will be chasing my autograph
kuepper
12 Apr 2006, 19:07
No, he's right.
You dont have to liek the coach, in fact you can even hate him - but to wish a 10 goal hiding against your own team means, without question, you are a **********.
So run along and support the yellow and blue filth, theres a good lad.
Toots Hibbert
12 Apr 2006, 19:10
plugy what talent you have .When all the crap hits the fan and the dust settles and harvey turns this club around you will be chasing my autograph
You're kicking up a stink because you want to see Connolly replaced by........Harvey!!! :eek: Oh my giddy aunt! :D
You're kicking up a stink because you want to see Connolly replaced by........Harvey!!! :eek: Oh my giddy aunt! :D
72 posts and 69 of them are whinging about the Coach .
Not one that isn't a complaint abiout something or some one. :eek:
Your argument implies that it is entirely the Coaches fault that the team has underperformed. Maybe just maybe some of the players in that team
aren't capable of playing any better. As a purely hypothetical exercise ask yourself this, how many of the Docker players do you honestly think would get a regular game at the Eagles and conversly how many of the Eagles players would get a regular game at the Dockers?
As for our players making WC’s side and vice versa? I don't know how useful that is, I consider them a top 4 team, and us a 5-8 team. If I could be bothered making a composite team, I think it would be evenly spread from both clubs. Taking each player in isolation, most of each team's best 22 would have some reasonable chance of making the other's best 22. But we'd probably have only 7-8 who would genuinely improve WC, but I doubt any other team would be any different. Thats still a good core, with a decent support cast, around which we should have a finals side.
I didn’t mean to imply it is entirelyCC’s fault. I certainly believe the players have to shoulder some of the blame. But at the end of the day, the buck stops at the coach as it is he who ultimately is responsible for extracting the best out of the players. To me that has not happened enough. Some weeks we play blinders, then we lose to hacks. The talent is there, but not being harnessed properly/consistently … and that is CC’s job.
After 2003, it is reasonable to think we would at least make the finals in the subsequent years. WC, Geelong and the Saints were all considered to have similar potential at the time, but now they are well ahead of us. CC must have done a good job in 2003, but now I feel he does not have the players support, and that’s my main reason he should be sacked.
You said maybe some can't play any better? You're right. Some of them can't. But a lot of them definitely can.
mathew20
12 Apr 2006, 20:59
No, he's right.
You dont have to liek the coach, in fact you can even hate him - but to wish a 10 goal hiding against your own team means, without question, you are a **********.
So run along and support the yellow and blue filth, theres a good lad. NUMBER 70
Anything to cause a change we are going no where at the moment and 10 goals would get the ball rolling.By the way which one is you the one bending over or the one behind
back pocket
12 Apr 2006, 21:14
NUMBER 70
Anything to cause a change we are going no where at the moment and 10 goals would get the ball rolling.By the way which one is you the one bending over or the one behind
Your an idiot, and the sooner you realise this, the sooner you can start working on fixing your problem. Your opinion is extracted straight out of your bunghole, I suggest you shove it back up there.
mathew20
12 Apr 2006, 21:27
Your an idiot, and the sooner you realise this, the sooner you can start working on fixing your problem. Your opinion is extracted straight out of your bunghole, I suggest you shove it back up there.
Bungholes back pockets and shoving it up there and you say i have a problem time will tell who the idiot is
Freo Shark
12 Apr 2006, 21:38
Bungholes back pockets and shoving it up there and you say i have a problem time will tell who the idiot is
Look here mate, I'm sick and tired of your anti-Connolly tirade.
You dont need to support the dockers, you dont need to like and support him BUT you dont come on here and basically troll your own teams board. You dont stalk the board shoving your cretinous rants down our throats.
If you dont like our views then go express yours in another forum. Try www.dockerland.com (http://www.dockerland.com)
mathew20
12 Apr 2006, 22:11
Look here mate, I'm sick and tired of your anti-Connolly tirade.
You dont need to support the dockers, you dont need to like and support him BUT you dont come on here and basically troll your own teams board. You dont stalk the board shoving your cretinous rants down our throats.
If you dont like our views then go express yours in another forum. Try www.dockerland.com (http://www.dockerland.com)
Take a panadol
Tony_Clifton
12 Apr 2006, 22:29
I think it would be a terrible move to sack him. We should give CC the freedom to coach how he wants to coach for the rest of they year. That is probably why he was signed on again. Knowing he might be toast only encourages the coach to play to save his own bacon.
Freo Shark
12 Apr 2006, 23:33
Take a panadol
Its you who needs to pop a panadol.
You've done nothing but troll the forum.
Ruddiger
12 Apr 2006, 23:41
4 very difficult games coming up. We lose all 4 and CC is gone. We break even and we are ok :)
We beat the Eagles and lose the other 3 and CC is a bloody genius!!! :thumbsu:
Eagles are still the benchmark for Freo. As always.
Terry Tan
13 Apr 2006, 10:03
well well well didn't that rumour stir up a abit of friction!
Even Tiger's supporters who would allegedly "eat their own" would never wish their club to lose by 10 goals so the coach can be sacked! Maybe you lot should look inside your backyard before criticising us.
Anyone, it's a shame you guys didn't hire Worsfold when he was available and wanted to coach Freo, I'm sure you would be close to a Top 4 team now.
If Cuddles can get the team to make the 8, he will survive.
Good Luck for the rest of the year, and yes I know the Tigers are ordinary - so no need to remind me (just being realistic).
Docker_Brat
14 Apr 2006, 00:12
Hmmm where do you think Wallet will be by round 7 ??
Good guess would be covered in saliva.
GOLD.
Docker_Brat
14 Apr 2006, 00:14
You're kicking up a stink because you want to see Connolly replaced by........Harvey!!! :eek: Oh my giddy aunt! :D
Who let the ferals in?
Docker_Brat
14 Apr 2006, 00:16
I agree with you back pocket, if CC is sacked now then we`ll have to endure another rebuilding process and 5 year plan
Not really. Blight walked into the Crows in 1997, sacked a few high profile blokes and took out a premiership.
Like Blight, Harvey is also bordering on insanity, so anything is possible.
Dr Ralph Dagg
14 Apr 2006, 17:43
Bungholes back pockets and shoving it up there and you say i have a problem time will tell who the idiot is
Well done, matty. I love it. People are actually taking you seriously.
if the Dockers didn't fire by rd 7,
Won't happen. :)
A good 10 goal bashing this week will send a clear message to cc from the players to ********** off. He is going to go no matter what faint glimmer of misguided hope some diminishing number of supporters have in him.Sharpen the axe use it and put someone in who has a couple of nuts
Breathtaking post.
Similar level to Brad Hardie SH1tt1NG in hs own nest and was subsequently sacked from an unpaid job at the woodenspooners the bulldogs two years ago.