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bushranger
29 Apr 2006, 17:04
who should be in the team.
its a no brainer
big_sav
29 Apr 2006, 17:15
yea i know dan should be in the team too.:thumbsu:
RoosterLad
29 Apr 2006, 18:35
gee you are a :D:D:D:Ding idiot busranger
Grimreepah
29 Apr 2006, 18:41
This is the epitome of a loaded question.
White shouldn't even be playing for Victoria when they are at full strength.
spookism
29 Apr 2006, 18:50
who should be in the team.
its a no brainer
You, like Cam White does at cricket, suck!
Richo83
29 Apr 2006, 19:22
Gee this thread has backfired.
White may be able to bat, but he can't bowl. Since he can't bowl, he needs to be a top-order batsmen, he is not. Cullen is raw, but can spin the ball (unlike White) and should be given a chance. White at FC level has been servicable, yet average. He is not test standard.
raikkonen
29 Apr 2006, 20:14
Another bull :D:D:D:D 'white is better than everyone' thread from bushranger.
Cullen by the length of the great ocean road over white.
usalion
29 Apr 2006, 21:28
Humour board, please!
Kane McGoodwin
29 Apr 2006, 22:49
If White is to replace Cullen, his bowling ability is more relevant than his batting ability.
Groucho
29 Apr 2006, 23:05
From what I've seen of their bowling, they're very similar except Cullen tries to spin it the other way. White's a much better bat though.
Bomaz_Magic
29 Apr 2006, 23:14
If Cullen is so good, why is he averaging 37 at First Class level with the ball? Could you imagine what Flintoff and Pieterson would do to him? White's a top fielder, good batsman and can be a handy bowling option at times and has good leadership qualities.
Kane McGoodwin
29 Apr 2006, 23:23
If Cullen is so good, why is he averaging 37 at First Class level with the ball? Could you imagine what Flintoff and Pieterson would do to him? White's a top fielder, good batsman and can be a handy bowling option at times and has good leadership qualities.
Cullen had a good domestic ODI season, but was a little disappointing in the Pura Cup games ... however, he was picked for Australia for the ODI's (not Tests!) & bowled economically. What's the problem?
Bomaz_Magic
29 Apr 2006, 23:32
First of all Cullen played in the 2nd Test ahead of Symonds and White. Further the issue is that it's ultimately about finding Warney's replacement, as apart from the World Cup ODI's mean sweet bugger all. The only test series that means anything is the Ashes which is a test series and to be honest Cullen isn't up to it at the moment whereas White has at least on his first class record shown he may be capable. Also White is the next best all rounder after Symonds, Bichel and Watson, and he did play in the ICC series so why isn't he playing now?
Kane McGoodwin
29 Apr 2006, 23:37
First of all Cullen played in the 2nd Test ahead of Symonds and White. Further the issue is that it's ultimately about finding Warney's replacement, as apart from the World Cup ODI's mean sweet bugger all. The only test series that means anything is the Ashes which is a test series and to be honest Cullen isn't up to it at the moment whereas White has at least on his first class record shown he may be capable. Also White is the next best all rounder after Symonds, Bichel and Watson, and he did play in the ICC series so why isn't he playing now?
IMO, neither White's bowling or batting warrant him playing in the Test team. However, I reckon he could be a handy ODI player with his all-round talents, but is behind Symonds, Hogg & Watson. Bichel is now too old for Australian selection (may as well pick Boof!)
Quite frankly Cullen has shown more potential as a bowler than White.
RoosterLad
29 Apr 2006, 23:43
White would get SMACKED as a bowler in the Ashes, what makes you think he may be capable?? He rarely bowls himself for Victoria and hes the CAPTAIN.. he only bowls to the tail to get cheap wickets.
Cullen has only played a couple of games for Australia, hasnt gone for many and he has taken quite a few wickets for SA the past two seasons.. his broken finger didnt help last season. I cant see him playing in the Ashes as hes still well behind Warnie and MacGill.
Bomaz_Magic
29 Apr 2006, 23:46
Both are quite a long way off, however, I disagree with Cullen showing more potential, but each to his own.
The Reaper
29 Apr 2006, 23:48
If White wants to play Test Cricket he should become a batsmen and a part time bowler (like Lehman).
White is in awesome form. He hasn't scored a run in the last 172 800 000 thousandth's of a second.
TheBigUnit
30 Apr 2006, 00:00
Neither ATM. White while his batting is decent, his bowling needs a lot of improvement, he needs to first take some wickets in domestic cricket before being considered. Cullen has potential, but would give him more time to develop.
Armageddon
30 Apr 2006, 00:12
who should be in the team.
its a no brainer
You're obviously used to those eh?
ALwaysNorth
30 Apr 2006, 01:12
its a no brainer
No you're a no brainer.
Bombers_Forever
30 Apr 2006, 09:13
Three Words bushranger........Pura Cup Final.
End of discussion
bushranger
30 Apr 2006, 09:24
did cullen play in the final
NO
Cullen is :D:D:D:D
white is australia best test allrounder and australiasnext captain if they have brains
Grimreepah
30 Apr 2006, 12:44
did cullen play in the final
NO
Cullen is :D:D:D:D
white is australia best test allrounder and australiasnext captain if they have brains
Shutup and learn cricket.
SorryIHammerChicken
30 Apr 2006, 12:54
If White is to replace Cullen, his bowling ability is more relevant than his batting ability.
Exactly, why would you pick two completely different players to compare? White is a batting all rounder (most idiot South Australians don't realise this yet)
spookism
30 Apr 2006, 13:14
white is australia best test allrounder and australiasnext captain if they have brains
That's quiet possibly the stupidest thing I have seen on the cricket board, and we all know some of the :D:D:D:D that has been posted on here!
crowsarethebest
30 Apr 2006, 14:22
Both are great talents but are not ready just yet. I expect them to be playing in tests and One Dayers in years to come.
Bombers_Forever
30 Apr 2006, 16:25
ranger you are dumber that I think......look at Whites pathetic figures with both bat and ball in that game
raikkonen
30 Apr 2006, 17:02
Remember that Bushranger is always right. why do we bother arguing with him.
:confused:
Bombers_Forever
30 Apr 2006, 17:05
Remember that Bushranger is always right. why do we bother arguing with him.
:confused:
Apologies for my error and correcting me ;)
Sanguinarius
30 Apr 2006, 17:31
white is australia best test allrounder and australiasnext captain if they have brains
I have to ask if you really believe what you're typing. I mean really, how can you possibly believe that.
the guy bowls pies and has a worse first class average than Fergusson.
If we're selecting on batting - there have to be about 15 guy's ahead of him that arnt in the side surrently.
if we're going on bowling there are hundreds of better choices.
As an allrounder he can't hold a spot on his batting, nor his bowling. He has no arguemnt to warrant his selection.
Cullen - while he had a poor first class season - was still the best performed spinner by a mile. He almost doubled the ammount of wickets white took and he played 2 less matches. Since we're chosing the player to bowl, you choose the better performed spinner - in this case Cullen wins - even with a bad season. At this point Cullen is a long way off holding down the spinners spot - but thats fine, we still have the great one playing. Giving him the odd match though can only help him become a better player.
raikkonen
30 Apr 2006, 20:31
I think the poll results speak for themselves. Cullen>White.
Grimreepah
30 Apr 2006, 22:08
I think the poll results speak for themselves. Cullen>White.
It's a biased poll though, because no one can stand bushranger.
did cullen play in the final
NO
Cullen is :D:D:D:D
white is australia best test allrounder and australiasnext captain if they have brains
In tests as an all-rounder: Watson > White, and thats saying something.
White is NOT our next test captain. Hopefully between now and when Ponting retires we find someone better, but White is
It's a biased poll though, because no one can stand bushranger.
True, however I think the result is accurate.
RoosterLad
1 May 2006, 13:22
did cullen play in the final
NO
Cullen is :D:D:D:D
white is australia best test allrounder and australiasnext captain if they have brains
Did Warne play in the final??
No
Does that make him smiley faces as well?
Why do you care if White plays for Australia anyway? You were cheering on Bangladesh in the recent series.
raikkonen
1 May 2006, 18:09
Did Warne play in the final??
No
Does that make him smiley faces as well?
Why do you care if White plays for Australia anyway? You were cheering on Bangladesh in the recent series.
Well he is rooting for the poms next series he said in another thread it seems. Said he would if white and hodge werent picked for the team. I could make a case for Hodge, but not for white, I mean seriously....can anyone make a legitimate case for him?
Sanguinarius
1 May 2006, 21:52
Well he is rooting for the poms next series he said in another thread it seems. Said he would if white and hodge werent picked for the team. I could make a case for Hodge, but not for white, I mean seriously....can anyone make a legitimate case for him?
to keep Clarke company on the sidelines?
can't have one over-rated blonde without the other, no?
spell_check
2 May 2006, 02:11
Did Warne play in the final??
No
Does that make him smiley faces as well?
Why do you care if White plays for Australia anyway? You were cheering on Bangladesh in the recent series.
Checkmate. :p
johnnyhoward
2 May 2006, 08:26
Why compare them bushranger? You clearly recognise that White is more of a batsman whereas Cullen is a specialist bowler. Off I go to make the Simon Katich v Harbhajan Singh poll (Katich bowls spin doesn't he?)
Bombers_Forever
2 May 2006, 13:34
Shipperd is a fool- in the paper today basically blamed the "good form" of Lewis and Harwood for costing White overs and his contract.
Ha ha!
UpForGrabs
3 May 2006, 00:58
It's a biased poll though, because no one can stand bushranger.
I'm new, and don't know Bushranger, but I voted for Cullen anyway.
White's reached his potential, Cullen's nowhere near fulfilling his. And as soon as Beau Casson leaves the Warriors and goes to NSW, he'll get the pitches and figures he deserves and be thrown up for consideration.
White's a decent bat, but not at all-rounder level, and as for his spin - Andy Symonds is a better spin bowler than he is. Simply because from time to time he actually spins the ball.
The only poll between Cullen and White that would get close results would be if you asked whose haircut was more ridiculous.
Grimreepah
3 May 2006, 01:13
I'm new, and don't know Bushranger, but I voted for Cullen anyway.
White's reached his potential, Cullen's nowhere near fulfilling his. And as soon as Beau Casson leaves the Warriors and goes to NSW, he'll get the pitches and figures he deserves and be thrown up for consideration.
White's a decent bat, but not at all-rounder level, and as for his spin - Andy Symonds is a better spin bowler than he is. Simply because from time to time he actually spins the ball.
The only poll between Cullen and White that would get close results would be if you asked whose haircut was more ridiculous.
The only thing I would disagree with is that I think White has a lot of potential. In fact he would be perfect as the bowling allrounder that we need in the one day side, but it is his bowling that needs to improve.
Bushranger tends to be biased towards Victoria. Not in a 'typical bushranger, that'd be right' way, but more in a 'this joke is so old' way.
Cooldude
3 May 2006, 01:17
White's a batting allrounder who's a worse bowler than Symonds, that's all there is to him
RoosterLad
3 May 2006, 13:56
Yep. Symonds is a better bowler.. he is actually pretty damn handy in one dayers, and takes wickets.
Also, Symonds is a MUCH better batsman, he is one of the best one day batters in the world when hes in touch, he can change a decent total, to 300+ in a few swings.
raikkonen
3 May 2006, 13:58
White's a batting allrounder who's a worse bowler than Symonds, that's all there is to him
I disagree.
There is nothing at all to him (White). He cant turn the ball, and is nowehere near the top 20 batsmen in the country, putting him way down the queue.