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darthfalcon
7 May 2006, 16:50
What a game!

There are a million positives to take into next week, I don't know where to begin;

We're really good at behinds, especially when the pressure's on - not a lot of teams are as consistent as we are in that department.

Our kicking to the opposition was inspiring, I don't think there was one moment when a kick went to a player with the same coloured jumper - it takes skill to keep that up for a whole match.

Sydney were terrible at getting the ball into the forward 50, we were way better. Look at the stats, yeah! The haters will mention the fact we didn't really do anything with the ball once it got into the 50, but that's just being mean, you can't expect the team to do everything.

Aka's got a fire in his belly. Ignore his numerous brain fades and his agression was inspiring, more players need to think like him, and getting reported is just a testament to how brilliant he is!

We would have done a lot better if the swans were worse, just remember that you doubters!

I don't know what everyone's worried about - it's times like these we need to keep the faith, and above all keep those rose coloured glasses on, if anyone starts to post anything remotely realistic on this board, then I'll get sad - so Tim the Toolman you've been warned! ;)

Monster
7 May 2006, 17:08
Yeah we were great, almost as good as channel 9's coverage of the game.

Cutting off the fotty to tell us that one of their reporters has had a heart-attact :confused: :confused: :confused:

Chezwick
7 May 2006, 17:13
I did enjoy that game. I agree with DF, although we now sit on the bottom we can enjoy the positives. I did like the fact we were consistent throughout the game, not just in one half like the WC match.

Damn unlucky not to have a few more goals scored :(

Grimreepah
7 May 2006, 17:15
5 years ago Brisbane and Essendon and Port were at the top. Funny how we're all at the bottom now. Do you think the AFL system has anything to do with it?

How is that for realism.

The way I see it, we can encourage the team when they give their all even though they aren't as good as the opposition, or we can abuse everybody in the team every time they lose.

I can see which option you have chosen to take. Not only that I see you have taken the liberty to take a swipe at the supporters who remain positive. Nice.

darthfalcon
7 May 2006, 17:26
Come on Grimreepah, just because we're losing doesn't mean you have to lose your sense of humour. Abuse everybody in the team? Where? When? Who? What thread are you reading?

There's a difference between being positive and burying your head in the sand, and sometimes this board is visited by ostriches, that's all, I only name checked one player and one poster, and neither were you...

xplo
7 May 2006, 17:28
Chezwick, I think you'll find that darthfalcon was enjoying whining about the sky and it's falling. If we're lucky he might even bless us with some cutting-edge realisations about the ages of some of our stars. Should make eye-opening reading.

Can't wait/

weevil
7 May 2006, 17:30
There's a difference between being positive and burying your head in the sand, and sometimes this board is visited by ostriches, that's allWho are you talking about? Who around here thinks things are great and we are going well?

Grimreepah
7 May 2006, 17:33
Come on Grimreepah, just because we're losing doesn't mean you have to lose your sense of humour.

Sarcasm is not always humour. Sometimes it is anger, and I would say this is one of those occaisons.


Abuse everybody in the team? Where? When? Who? What thread are you reading?

Your opening post. Don't play dumb.

There's a difference between being positive and burying your head in the sand, and sometimes this board is visited by ostriches, that's all, I only name checked one player and one poster, and neither were you...

There's a difference between letting fly at everyone, and being realistic in that there were positives and negatives to come out of the game. Wait until the boys have a shocker and don't try and then let rip. But I don't agree in ridiculing them at this stage.

*Danni*
7 May 2006, 17:54
Actually I quite enjoyed it. Good Read! If you don't laugh, well you know the saying.....you'd have to cry! Thanks darthfalcon!

luthor
7 May 2006, 18:08
, if anyone starts to post anything remotely realistic on this board, then I'll get sad -

So what's realistic about knocking your own team and your fellow supporters?

How does a sarcastic rant contribute anything to solving our numerous and unboubted problems on the field?

How would you address the glaring deficiencies in our team?

In your opinion,what should be done now?

Do you want us to all give up on the club and post nothing but vitriol, despair and non-constructive criticism?

No-one has claimed to happy about the way things have panned out so far this year.....or at least I don't think they have.......if I'm wrong ....point it out.

If you're unhappy, why don't you just say so?

Sarcasm is not always the lowest form of wit but it really doesn't get much lower than your rambling missive.

*Danni*
7 May 2006, 18:12
Oh c'mon you lot!! Ok ok maybe I distanced myself a fair bit from the game this arvo. It was for the simple fact I didn't want to be in massive despair right now. Out and out, we are not going well at all at the moment - we all know it, but there's no harm in poking a bit of fun. Laugh or cry? Or both? A win would be a fantastic tonic, but it's just not around at the moment, so I just don't see why people are so dead set that darthfalcon is being extremly malicious with his post. It is quite clever and a good light-hearted read - a bit of fun. Just as long as you remember to take that in with you as you read it.

Grimreepah
7 May 2006, 18:25
I just don't see why people are so dead set that darthfalcon is being extremly malicious with his post.

Because he's hurling abuse at both the club and the supporters. If it was just light hearted fun, he would have worded it differently and he wouldn't have continued the rant in another thread.

If we all 'take our heads out of the sand' and go on about how crap we are all the time, as darthfalcon wants us to do, why would any Lions fans want to visit the Lions board.

I suppose I take umbrage to darthfalcon taking a swipe at the supporters. I think the Lions board has been very level headed compared to other boards. At some clubs, when a side wins they think they are premiership certainties, and when they lose they think the players should be hung, drawn and quartered. Obviously darthfalcon has never read any of parrot's posts.

darthfalcon
7 May 2006, 18:49
Ah Grimreepah, a careful re-reading of the first post might help you understand the purpose of the thread, I really hoped I didn't underestimate the audience on here, please don't let me down! I was kind of hoping you'd join in and add some more 'over the top' points of praise for a bit of fun, not 'over the top' flames...

Grimreepah
7 May 2006, 18:56
Ah Grimreepah, a careful re-reading of the first post might help you understand the purpose of the thread, I really hoped I didn't underestimate the audience on here, please don't let me down! I was kind of hoping you'd join in and add some more 'over the top' points of praise for a bit of fun, not 'over the top' flames...

I re-read it. I still think you're taking a swipe at the supporters.

But if you say you aren't then no hard feelings.

weevil
7 May 2006, 19:08
Oh c'mon you lot!! Ok ok maybe I distanced myself a fair bit from the game this arvo. It was for the simple fact I didn't want to be in massive despair right now. Out and out, we are not going well at all at the moment - we all know it, but there's no harm in poking a bit of fun. Laugh or cry? Or both? A win would be a fantastic tonic, but it's just not around at the moment, so I just don't see why people are so dead set that darthfalcon is being extremly malicious with his post. It is quite clever and a good light-hearted read - a bit of fun. Just as long as you remember to take that in with you as you read it.Yeah I don’t actually have any problem with Darth having a bit of fun.

xplo
7 May 2006, 19:28
The post by itself 'could' be read as tongue in cheek, but it leads directly from this post.

Good to see a realist on here...If there's something I hate more than the Lions losing, it's 'fans' who cheer the losses on. If we were better against WC than Richmond then by the end of the year we should be losing by around 150 points! Although if you can't beat 'em...I think it's time to start my own one-eyed thread...

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5034163&postcount=31

That post was 20 minutes before this one and basically saying he hates 'fans' (his ironic quotes) whom he accuses of cheering losses. That would be why myself and I presume GR might not have read the original post with a chuckle.

Grimreepah
7 May 2006, 19:31
The post by itself 'could' be read as tongue in cheek, but it leads directly from this post.



http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5034163&postcount=31

That post was 20 minutes before this one and basically saying he hates 'fans' (his ironic quotes) whom he accuses of cheering losses. That would be why myself and I presume GR might not have read the original post with a chuckle.

Spot on. This was the point I was alluding to in my response to Danni.

red+black
7 May 2006, 19:48
Yeah we were great, almost as good as channel 9's coverage of the game.

Cutting off the fotty to tell us that one of their reporters has had a heart-attact :confused: :confused: :confused:
I was watching that and thought how ridiculous. I thought they were about to say that the miners were dead.

Surely they could have waited until the end of the quarter. Sure it's terrible news, but they shouldn't have interrupted the game.

wmoore
7 May 2006, 19:51
5 years ago Brisbane and Essendon and Port were at the top. Funny how we're all at the bottom now. Do you think the AFL system has anything to do with it?True. The system is there for a reason. Granted Leigh Matthews has admitted that they haven't played the game properly (in terms of keeping the team together instead of trading, etc) so we've got to wear it for now.

The system works, that's a fact. Better than the English Premier League where 3 teams have shared the last 13 Premierships, and it doesn't look like changing any time soon.

Lions43
7 May 2006, 21:33
IMHO that was our best performance of the season. Given Brown's zero impact I wasn't too disappointed to go down to the premiers by 5 goals. The only reason to be disappointed is if you really thought we were some sort of chance this year and to have thought that was just delusional really. Stop thinking about this year and start thinking about next year, or more realistically probably 2008-2010.

In terms of 2008-2010....

1) Rischitelli might just make it as a top midfielder on today's performance

2) Big Beau has clearly still got plenty to offer

3) Charman could be one of the best ruckmen in the comp for the next 8 years on what he is showing

4) Roe looks like a real find

With respect to the old guys I thought Vossy had his best game of the year. His tight clearance work was superb at times. Aker clearly had his best game of the year - even allowing for a few brain explosions. Brad Scott has proven he still has something to offer.

If Hawthorn drop their gaurd next week we can win that game which would do the confidence of the whole team no end of good. Get out there and support them if you can.....

darthfalcon
7 May 2006, 21:56
Well said!

Grimreepah
7 May 2006, 22:03
Well said!

I presume you're being sarcastic.

The Flying Belgian
7 May 2006, 22:06
What a game!

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I don't know what everyone's worried about - it's times like these we need to keep the faith, and above all keep those rose coloured glasses on, if anyone starts to post anything remotely realistic on this board, then I'll get sad - so Tim the Toolman you've been warned! ;)

Seriously though darth, did you actually see any positives today or were too busy feeling miserable about the team?

Generally, we're all for realism on this board.

But pointing our what everyone can see are our flaws is just howling at the moon and none of what you said, forgive me for me forthrightness here, is particularly insightful. What are your solutions by the way? Play better? Have better skills? Okay, let's just flick the switch on the player's backs from 'crap' to 'kick-a*se'. It's just that easy!

But I can criticise as much as the next person:

1. Our adjustments from kick-ins are slow. Too many times a team has a mass of players moving in a certain direction and our blokes will be sticking to their zone.
2. Skills below our knees are ordinary. It's like our blokes' kness don't bend any more.
3. Let Charmo drift forward more often - he always looks dangerous there.

I could go on and on, but you know what? It don't mean a thing. You think the coaching staff don't know our flaws?

I've got a multitude of people around me where I sit who yell out "just kick it long" and then moan when the ball is kicked long that it was to no one in particular when the reason in the first place the ball isn't kicked long is that everyone was manned up. You just can't please some people and most of the time those people don't want to be pleased anyway.

I've accepted we're a poor team ATM playing poor. If I choose to look at the positives so f***king what? At the end of a game I'll be feeling much better about things and probably have lower blood pressure!

darthfalcon
7 May 2006, 22:15
I did see some positives, and you'll read about them in other threads, but this thread wasn't about that, but trying to explain what this whole thing is about is like trying to dissect a joke line by line, it gets less funny by the minute, and the last two pages of wailing about my first post prove that no one was really ready for it, apart from Danni...And maybe Grimreepah (who's looking for sarcasm everywhere now! ;))

weevil
7 May 2006, 22:21
I don’t really understand what is going on in this thread. I thought your first post was very obviously tongue in cheek. After that everything got strange...

The Flying Belgian
7 May 2006, 22:31
Sort of tongue-in-cheek, but it has it's origins elsewhere and probably might have been more effective without this paragraph though...
I don't know what everyone's worried about - it's times like these we need to keep the faith, and above all keep those rose coloured glasses on, if anyone starts to post anything remotely realistic on this board, then I'll get sad - so Tim the Toolman you've been warned!

weevil
7 May 2006, 22:44
Sort of tongue-in-cheek, but it has it's origins elsewhere and probably might have been more effective without this paragraph though...Yeah there is obviously some historical stuff I am not up to speed on...I care enough to make comments from the sideline, but not nearly enough to do any actual research to uncover the real story...Pretty much your typical BF poster I suppose. :)

Grimreepah
7 May 2006, 22:55
Yeah there is obviously some historical stuff I am not up to speed on...I care enough to make comments from the sideline, but not nearly enough to do any actual research to uncover the real story...Pretty much your typical BF poster I suppose. :)

:DLove your work. xplo cited what the Flying Belgian is referring to at the top of page 2.

I must admit I thought darthfalcon was having a go at the supporters, but he seems to have changed his tune.