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oxx
9 May 2006, 04:17
lots of hand passing sideways,backwards,everywhere before finding/creating a target further down fieldthus the basketball/keepings off comparison.

I understand the necessity for it,point is we seem to have doing it well of late.

Discuss.

Bojangles17
9 May 2006, 07:55
lots of hand passing sideways,backwards,everywhere before finding/creating a target further down fieldthus the basketball/keepings off comparison.

I understand the necessity for it,point is we seem to have doing it well of late.

Discuss.

sounds to me like TW encourages a fair amount of enterprise in our game plan, I see it as well...with plenty of handball to set up before a long kick inside 50...its workin..:thumbsu:

IDGAF
9 May 2006, 11:14
lots of hand passing sideways,backwards,everywhere before finding/creating a target further down fieldthus the basketball/keepings off comparison.

I understand the necessity for it,point is we seem to have doing it well of late.

Discuss.We are doing it very well oxx

I think we are getting the chemistry together beautifully in the back half ( hence why i would not bring Gaspar back ) .... all we need to do is gain the necessary poise and skill going forward and things will start to click nicely .

Harvey Leadpipe
9 May 2006, 11:39
One thing I did notice, and don't know if this is a coaching decision or whatever, but the guys in the backline now, even when caught, don't seem to get their arms pinned to them as much as even two years ago. A number of times in the last two matches, there seems to be a plan emerging from the backline, where even when caught, the ball is getting dished off to someone running past.

Our delivery from then on still leaves a lot to be desired, but with most of our plays being driven from the half-back line, its opening up space up forward and getting some run going. Also pleasing to see is the younger brigade adapting to this style quite easily.

CoggaRules
9 May 2006, 12:40
One thing I did notice, and don't know if this is a coaching decision or whatever, but the guys in the backline now, even when caught, don't seem to get their arms pinned to them as much as even two years ago. A number of times in the last two matches, there seems to be a plan emerging from the backline, where even when caught, the ball is getting dished off to someone running past.

Our delivery from then on still leaves a lot to be desired, but with most of our plays being driven from the half-back line, its opening up space up forward and getting some run going. Also pleasing to see is the younger brigade adapting to this style quite easily.

true HL, kind of think its all to do with a smart coaching panel, looking at how the rules are interpreted nowadays and relating this back to the playing group re. disposing of the ball in a tackle.
I would say our guys have been tutored in the art of not really having to hand ball when caught, just make it seem like the ball was jolted out by the tackle but in the desired direction. ;)

Big Punt
9 May 2006, 15:39
One thing I did notice, and don't know if this is a coaching decision or whatever, but the guys in the backline now, even when caught, don't seem to get their arms pinned to them as much as even two years ago. A number of times in the last two matches, there seems to be a plan emerging from the backline, where even when caught, the ball is getting dished off to someone running past.

Our delivery from then on still leaves a lot to be desired, but with most of our plays being driven from the half-back line, its opening up space up forward and getting some run going. Also pleasing to see is the younger brigade adapting to this style quite easily.

Appears to be part of the "back yourself, take a risk" policy that is the basis of the game plan. I like it, will lead to occasional :D:D:D:D ups, but in an overall sense is good (not to mention more exciting to watch).

Bojangles17
9 May 2006, 16:40
One thing I did notice, and don't know if this is a coaching decision or whatever, but the guys in the backline now, even when caught, don't seem to get their arms pinned to them as much as even two years ago. A number of times in the last two matches, there seems to be a plan emerging from the backline, where even when caught, the ball is getting dished off to someone running past.
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alot to do with the personnel down there...Raines,Hartigan, Bowden and Hydey have added real flair coming out of back half..is a great mix when added to the steel of a kellaway and dare I say it Gasper and Hally...:o

oxx
9 May 2006, 16:42
I would say our guys have been tutored in the art of not really having to hand ball when caught, just make it seem like the ball was jolted out by the tackle but in the desired direction. ;)

either that or the current coaching panel is simply trying to incorporate the players natural game:)

I dont believe Gas should be permitted to walk straight back into the ones,especially with the chemistry that has been found down back since he injured himself.

rfctigerarmy
9 May 2006, 17:27
Our backline is working wonders at the moment.

Rainsey, Bowdo, Hydey, Hartigan are 4 players who continue to take the opposition on with Kellaway courageous as always and Hall being solid as per usual.

Fantastic to watch.

Bentleigh
9 May 2006, 17:35
Wallace to the boys bringing it out of the backline:

- "dont kick it to a 50/50"
- "dont kick it to them"
- "dont waste it"

Looks at the like of J Bowden & Raines. Back them selfs, run, create, take risks.

Seems to be working wonders.

Crumden
9 May 2006, 21:19
The two grand-finalists last year, Sydney and West Coast, played two different games. West Coast the fast attacking game. Sydney the lock down game until they could find a runner out of defence. I think Plough is trying to get a bit of each into our game.

IDGAF
9 May 2006, 22:55
I dont believe Gas should be permitted to walk straight back into the ones,especially with the chemistry that has been found down back since he injured himself.Heard a snippet of an interview with plough on the news tonight . Gave a strong indication that it may be the case that Gaspar may not come straight back in .... f..ken rapt about that :thumbsu:

The back half has done so well the last three weeks i implore them to leave it alone .

I understand it is a bit of a punt with big bad Bazza up front but at the minute if it aint broke don`t fix it

As each week ticks by it makes me realise what a crying friggin shame it was losing Thursfield like that , i just hope he comes back OK

duckboy
9 May 2006, 23:36
The back half has done so well the last three weeks i implore them to leave it alone .



Has it? Carlton were killing us up forward when they could get it down there a couple weeks ago. I agree the rebounding and creativity has been brilliant but the pure defensive side has been ordinary at times. Whitnall, Fev and Waite were causing us all sorts of problems. O'Keefe, Hall, Davis and O'Loughlin would be too much for us without Gas there IMHO.

tomthetiger
9 May 2006, 23:58
They weren't killing us at all. If you disregard the last quarter, which has been the weakest one for us in ALL departments around the ground, then the backline has been very strong. The only time our backline was beaten by Carlton, Essendon and Brisbane, was in the last quarters of each respective match.

oxx
10 May 2006, 00:24
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=3083.from1147179341;topicseen#msg33650


Gaspar, Johnson in Tiger frame
5:57:34 PM Tue 9 May, 2006
Paul Gough
Sportal for afl.com.au

The good news just keeps coming out of Punt Road with the Tigers, buoyed by three successive wins and their second NAB Rising Star award nomination in just six rounds, set to regain captain Kane Johnson and deputy-vice-captain Darren Gaspar for Saturday's clash against reigning premiers Sydney at Telstra Dome.

While Dean Polo's debut against Essendon – which saw him join Andrew Raines as the two Tigers already nominated for the award won by their teammate Brett Deledio last year – was still the talk of Tigerland on Tuesday, Wallace is already setting his sights on the Swans.

The Tigers defeated Sydney by a point at the MCG in their only meeting during the Swans' premiership year last year but will be boosted significantly for this year's clash.

Wallace has already declared Gaspar, out for the past three matches with a hamstring injury, a certain starter, which is a huge boost for the Tigers as Gaspar will almost certainly get the job of curbing Sydney dangerman Barry Hall.

And he is increasingly confident that skipper Johnson, who missed last week's win over Essendon with a far less serious hamstring injury than Gaspar, will also return to lead the side this week.

"It wasn't a strain or a tear (of the hamstring) as such, we erred on the side of caution last week but we are hoping he will play this week," Wallace said of Johnson.

"Our expectation is he will take part in our main training session tomorrow (Wednesday) and he was able to run both last Saturday and Monday."

Wallace said he was thrilled the Tigers were able to win such a tight game last week without Johnson and Gaspar and vice-captain Nathan Brown, who will be sidelined for at least another week as he continues strengthening his injured leg.

"We know we have still got a lot of ground to make up and last year we lost games to teams higher on the ladder and beat sides that were lower than us on the ladder," he said.

"We are doing the same thing again this year but we have done it with a lot more senior players out (through injury) and with a lot more young players in the side."

While Wallace was delighted with last week's win over Essendon, he said he was concerned by another last quarter fade-out from his team after the Bombers turned a 16 point deficit early in the final term into a ten point lead before the Tigers rallied to win.

The Tigers are yet to win a final quarter this season and Wallace admits he is searching for answers, fully aware that this week's opponents Sydney trailed by 33 points at three-quarter-time in last year's clash at the MCG before storming home to lose by only a point.

"We are looking at our last quarters and asking where, how and why (we aren't winning them),' he said.

"It's something we have got to be concerned about and will keep working on and we have done a bit of work with the players internally this week as to why we believe it's happening."

sante
10 May 2006, 00:46
We need to play Gas this week cause no one else can man Barry Hall

Rancid_Beasties
10 May 2006, 02:45
You gotta understand this people, Gaspar and Johnson are still 2 of the Tigers golden boys as far as wages, standing in the club, leadership position, and respect go. Gaspar was in All-Australian form up until round 10 last year. Johnson is a proven, quality midfielder. As much as the youth are our future, and as much as they are looking to be brighter prospects than Johnson and Gaspar, I think we need to go with experience when we can get it. Our side is too young at the moment and pushing guys like Hughes and JON who have barely been around for 6 months into the side full time is a bad idea. Give them a taste, then send them back to Coburg to develop. Don't do what Hawthorn are doing with Zac Dawson! We want to see more Dean Polos and less Tamblings, guys developing beyond the expectations of the club rather than below.