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kretchy
31 Dec 2001, 10:02
Australia
S.Waugh
Gilchrist
Bevan
Bichel
Harvey
Hayden
B.Lee
Martyn
McGrath
Ponting
Symonds
M.Waugh
Williams
The only real suprise is Brad Williams but he has been in pretty good form anyway.
Australia A
Lehmann (C)
Katich (VC)
Blewett
Bracken
Campbell
S.Clark
Gillespie
Higgs
Hussey
S.Lee
MacGill
Maher
Campbell maybe a suprise getting the gloves before Haddin or Clingeleffer.
Bomber Spirit
31 Dec 2001, 10:58
It'll be interesting to see if Hayden plays. On form it'd be hard to leave him out, but if he plays would it be Mark Waugh or Gilchrist who moves down the order?
Surprised about Australia A. Ryan Campbell's only a part-time keeper at best - and Haddin must be unlucky. Only NSW player not to get a go - how the hell did Stuart Clark get a gig? I know Dale and Noffke are both out injured, but wouldn't Nicholson from WA be a better option? He was considered good enough to play Test cricket a couple of years ago.
NICK THE PIE MAN
31 Dec 2001, 11:23
Bit stiff on JL!
Didn't even make it into Australia A!
Surley he has earnt it (look at the form)
GOALden Hawk
31 Dec 2001, 11:52
I'm disappointed Bracken isn't in the squad...I know he isn't fully fit yet but we need some variety in the attack. The selectors should be looking at the big picture and considering who will go to the World Cup - and I'd much prefer the option of Bracken than Brad Williams.
Glad they aren't risking Gillespie in these useless pyjama games anyway.
The Hippie
31 Dec 2001, 12:18
Thought Shane Lee would have been in the No 1 side before Bichel. Very handy batsman down the order, though his bowling lacks a little penetration and he's not really economical.
kretchy
31 Dec 2001, 12:36
Originally posted by Bomber Spirit
It'll be interesting to see if Hayden plays. On form it'd be hard to leave him out, but if he plays would it be Mark Waugh or Gilchrist who moves down the order?
Surprised about Australia A. Ryan Campbell's only a part-time keeper at best - and Haddin must be unlucky. Only NSW player not to get a go - how the hell did Stuart Clark get a gig? I know Dale and Noffke are both out injured, but wouldn't Nicholson from WA be a better option? He was considered good enough to play Test cricket a couple of years ago.
Stuart Clark has been in pretty good form in the Pura Milk Cup and taking a lot of wickets, I reckon it is a fair selection.
How did Langer not even make the 'A' side ?.He should be in ahead of Blewett.
stoisle
31 Dec 2001, 14:50
Where is Warne?
NICK THE PIE MAN
31 Dec 2001, 15:29
Originally posted by stoisle
Where is Warne?
Sh*t! Good question!
:confused:
Surley not dropped?
Injured? Wanting break?
Hmmm...
Anyone care to shed some light on the subject?
Originally posted by NICK THE PIE MAN
Sh*t! Good question!
:confused:
Surley not dropped?
Injured? Wanting break?
Hmmm...
Anyone care to shed some light on the subject?
he has been picked,maybe kretchy didnt type his name in,but its on baggygreen.com.au the official squad
Kane McGoodwin
31 Dec 2001, 16:57
JubJub - I think you will find Blewey is in the top couple of run getters in the ING cup. From memory, he just got overtaken by Elliott. Also, Dizzy would have to be unlucky to be relegated behind the likes of B Lee, Williams & Bichel
Fall Out Boy
31 Dec 2001, 17:27
If domestic form comes into surely Matthew Elliott must be at least in the 'A' squad.
I know most don't think of him as a one-day cricketer but he is the outstanding player of the ING cup.
He is leading the averages and the strike rates.
Definitely deserves an opportunity but alas whilst Steve Waugh is captain he will never play for Australia again
Fall Out Boy
31 Dec 2001, 17:31
I'm suprised that Damien Fleming isn't in there, i know he's been injured and out of form but he still is our best one day bowler.
His figures are outstanding and he would add variety to an attack that is sadly predictable
Originally posted by phatandphreaky
If domestic form comes into surely Matthew Elliott must be at least in the 'A' squad.
I know most don't think of him as a one-day cricketer but he is the outstanding player of the ING cup.
He is leading the averages and the strike rates.
Definitely deserves an opportunity but alas whilst Steve Waugh is captain he will never play for Australia again
HA hA ha Ha
dogboy23
1 Jan 2002, 11:19
Vic players got screwed again.Katich is averaging something like 20 this year and Elliot 70 and Elliot doesnt get in.:confused: Hodge not in either what is going on down there.
campbell
1 Jan 2002, 11:31
Queensland is top of the Pura Milk and ING .
They have 4 players total. Go figure. Secombe is by far the best keeper apart from Gilcrest in Australia. Western Australia have 6 and New South Wales have 10. Interesting that.
Seccombe is by far a better keeper than Campbell.
Elliotts average in his last 10 domestic one-day games is 68 & Katich's is 18.So how do they come up with the selection of Katich ahead of Elliott ?:rolleyes:
Elliott has 4 centuries this year in one day games,Jimmy Maher has 4 centuries in his whole one day career.Another bizzare decision.
The way sides a picked ,I'm suprised that Don Nash wasn't picked in the Aussie side. :D
Bulldog1954
1 Jan 2002, 15:17
Brad Hodge should definently be in the Australian A side. If he was from NSW there is no doubt he would be.
And why they persist in playing Brett Lee in one day cricket is bewildering. The faster you bowl the faster it goes to the boundary, as Brett finds out time and time again. Brad Williams may also be in the same boat
Kane McGoodwin
1 Jan 2002, 17:40
ING Cup Highest Batting Averages
D Marsh 77.5 (155 runs, 105 S/R)
*D Martyn 74.7 (224, 67)
*R Ponting 67.7 (203, 103)
M Love 66.5 (266, 87)
M Hussey 60.8 (243, 78)
M Elliott 59.0 (295, 74)
R Campbell 58.5 (117, 85)
G Blewett 55.0 (275, 77)
J Maher 53.0 (212, 80)
So picking the Australia A squad based purely on form & averages (ie. excluding Australian team* & strike rates), the batting line up would be something like:
M Elliott
J Maher
G Blewett
M Love
M Hussey
D Marsh
R Campbell (w/k)
However, the selectors are obviously keen to play the unlucky Lehmann & Katich who they have high hopes for. Elliott, Love & Marsh the unlucky ones to miss out. No real case for Langer or Hodge though.
ING Cup Lowest Bowling Economy Rates (min 20 overs)
*I Harvey 3.4 (8 wickets @ 17)
S Clark 3.7 (6 @ 28)
J Gillespie 3.7 (4 @ 27)
*A Bichel 3.8 (5 @ 27)
S Karppinen 3.8 (0)
I Hewitt 4.0 (6 @ 28)
The Bowlers are probably harder to pick depending on a combination of economy & wickets, but could based purely on economy would be as follows:
S Clark
J Gillespie (should be in 1st team though)
S Karppinen
I Hewitt
Can't fault Clark based on form. Selectors keen to play the unlucky MacGill (who is amongst the leading wicket-takers) & the up & coming Bracken. Could be argued D Marsh in unlucky to miss out to Higgs.
Originally posted by Lethal
he has been picked,maybe kretchy didnt type his name in,but its on baggygreen.com.au the official squad
yeah i forgot to type his name sorry about that fellas.
Originally posted by Bulldog1954
Brad Hodge should definently be in the Australian A side. If he was from NSW there is no doubt he would be.
And why they persist in playing Brett Lee in one day cricket is bewildering. The faster you bowl the faster it goes to the boundary, as Brett finds out time and time again. Brad Williams may also be in the same boat
Agree with that i have also always wondered why the selectors persist in selecting him.
Didn't have the most runs against him for an Australian in one of the games over in England against Pakistan I think.
GoEagles
1 Jan 2002, 18:53
No real suprises for the main one day squad.
The A side was interesting. Hussey's selection IMO was long overdue. Yet another outstanding season and I hope he makes the most of his chances in Australia A. Katich shouldn't of been picked if you are solely judging this seasons form - Elliot deserved a go (This is a big call coming from a Sandgroper :D)
Ryan Campbell didn't really suprise me either. He isn't a good keeper in comparison to Haddin or Seccombe, but he is an explosive batsman and the ACB might of used him to hopefully put an "extra 10,000 bums on seats"
The Hippie
2 Jan 2002, 21:57
Bumping this up for dees*gal. :)
Geez you'd think Langer's omission was a bit tough considering the form he is in. Interesting that Dizzy wasnt in the first team.
Originally posted by Bomber Spirit
but wouldn't Nicholson from WA be a better option? He was considered good enough to play Test cricket a couple of years ago.
He was dropped from the Western Warriors side only a short time later from bad form. He is too inconsistent and even when he did play for Australia he only picked up a couple of wickets.
Originally posted by Visro
He is too inconsistent and even when he did play for Australia he only picked up a couple of wickets.
Four wickets @ 28.75 in his only Test.
Pretty good stats, especially for a debutant.
Great_Unknown
4 Jan 2002, 06:29
Originally posted by Bomber Spirit
It'll be interesting to see if Hayden plays. On form it'd be hard to leave him out, but if he plays would it be Mark Waugh or Gilchrist who moves down the order?
Surprised about Australia A. Ryan Campbell's only a part-time keeper at best - and Haddin must be unlucky. Only NSW player not to get a go - how the hell did Stuart Clark get a gig? I know Dale and Noffke are both out injured, but wouldn't Nicholson from WA be a better option? He was considered good enough to play Test cricket a couple of years ago.
Being in the NSW squad isn't a pre-requisite for selection in representative squads you IDIOT. If the ACB were to follow your philosophy, both international teams would consist of only NSW players.:rolleyes:
If any player is unlucky not to be selected it would have to be Wade Seccombe, who is without doubt the best 'keeper in the country presently, NOT Brad Haddin. If it wasn't for Gilchrist's batting ability, Seccombe would be in the Test and ODI team by now.
dogboy23
4 Jan 2002, 06:51
Originally posted by Great_Unknown
Being in the NSW squad isn't a pre-requisite for selection in representative squads you IDIOT. If the ACB were to follow your philosophy, both international teams would consist of only NSW players.:rolleyes:
If any player is unlucky not to be selected it would have to be Wade Seccombe, who is without doubt the best 'keeper in the country presently, NOT Brad Haddin. If it wasn't for Gilchrist's batting ability, Seccombe would be in the Test and ODI team by now. Seccombe is a better keeper than Haddin and although probably not as talented with the bat is a very reliable batter.Ive said before who the best keeper in Australia is but he is old now and not worth considering.I think both Haddin and Seccombe are capable back ups but Seccombe is clearly the better keeper.
Joe Mama
4 Jan 2002, 20:13
Who does Matthew Elliott have to root to get selected in any Australian team (wearing a lighter shade of blue perhaps ?), his performances in both forms of the game over the past two years have least given him the right to be in the A team.
And what about Michael Klinger, he's been doing a great job with the bat with a struggling team, unlike those blokes who those ACB softcoks have selected who haven't experienced the pressure that Klinger has had to go through ?.
This is just another example of a local boy (Matthew Elliott's from Kyabram, VIC. Garry Lyon's home town, not far from where I live) and a young gun getting screwed by the powers that be because they happen to be Mexicans (south of the border)
Anyone know where I can get the sides for RSA and NZ?
Originally posted by Visro
Anyone know where I can get the sides for RSA and NZ?
NZ: http://www-aus.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/2001-02/OD_TOURNEYS/VBS/VBS_JAN-FEB2002_NZ-SQUAD.html
RSA : http://www-aus.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/2001-02/OD_TOURNEYS/VBS/VBS_JAN-FEB2002_RSA-SQUAD.html
Left arm paceman James Franklin has replaced Kyle Mills in the NZ squad.
Cheers mate! :)
Didn't want to go and select players in my fantasy team that weren't going to be play at all. :eek: :p