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eddie_vrv6
14 May 2006, 18:41
Read somewhere that Choco said as many as six would be out if we lose this week (could be wrong) so may as well start a thread for this.......
Motlop (I defended him about 3-4 weeks ago, but my opinion is fast changing)
Dew (One of my All-time favourites, but so out of form it aint funny - coupla weeks getting his head back in the game at the Dogs could be the best thing for him)
Mahoney (Hasn't done much since the six goals, and with White now the preferred Forward at the moment - a week or so in the reserves wouldn't hurt)
Cassisi (Form and injury)
Bishop (Goes without saying)
Thurstans (Possibly not next game, but as soon as Brogan comes back)
Capital Power
14 May 2006, 18:44
Would keep Toby I think and Mahoney should do better against Brisbane. Hard to argue with the others though. What a shame.
Macca19
14 May 2006, 18:54
Assuming both Walsh and Cassisi miss:
OUT: Motlop, Walsh, Cassisi,
IN: Chaplin, Symes, Thomas
If Walsh stays in id drop Dew. Cassisi should go regardless
Tredders66
14 May 2006, 19:02
Add Tredrea to the list. His not at all fit and not showing the least of onfield leadership.
Capital Power
14 May 2006, 19:04
Add Tredrea to the list. His not at all fit and not showing the least of onfield leadership.
I didn't want to say this, but I at least partly agree. He's still showing touches of brilliance but he isn't lifting the team as he used to.
crazy_big_al
14 May 2006, 19:06
OUT: Motlop, Walsh, Cassisi, Dew, Bishop
IN: Chaplin, Symes, Thomas, Ezard, Ebert
Some might seems a bit strange, ebert needs time in the guts and left there at AFL level so we can see if he can make it or it is time to get rid of him.
Tredders66
14 May 2006, 19:09
I didn't want to say this, but I at least partly agree. He's still showing touches of brilliance but he isn't lifting the team as he used to.
I havent got a problem with it at all and Chocco shouldn't either. We have won without him before. It's not going to happen though. Can you honestly see Chocco telling Tredders he might have to miss this week. No.
The outs will be:
Cassisi (injured)
Surjan
Thurstans
Russian
14 May 2006, 19:44
In: Symes, Thomas, Brogan, Shattock, Chaplin
Out: Lonie, Motlop, Tredrea (realistically Thurstans), Pettigrew, Bishop
If Dom or Walshy miss, Grew stays, if both miss then Ware in
We need a scapegoat.
Choco, as usual, will choose Thurstans.
Toby, as usual, will get downhearted and frustrated and play rubbish in the SANFL.
My outs:
Bishop - no explanation needed. To go to the SANFL and never play or PAFC again.
Cassisi - He was never going to be a rolls royce midfielder. What he lacked in talent he made up with desperation and hard work hard running etc. He has gone into a comfort zone now, and isn't doing those one percenters. Needs a rocket.
Kane Cornes - omit him, and bring him back as an emergency at the last minute. Too talented a player to drop in our current situation. However it would be a wake up call for him. Or for choco to tell him that if he doesn't start playing like the old kane, he would go back to the SANFL. See cassisi
Pettigrew - Just can't seem to find the ball. 6 possessions today. Looks good in the forward line more than defence but still not the Pettigrew of last year.
Motlop - I've been defending him all season, but the buck stops here. Doesn't have the heart of a player of the PAFC. Needs a rocket, and needs to find some form.
IN:
Chaplin - Had a poor start to the season, but we know he can play, and has never stopped trying.
Shattock - not the most skilled player on our list, and not a spring chicken either, but one thing he has is heart. His attack on the ball, willingness to put the body on the line etc. is what we are lacking. Didn't have too bad a game last week.
Symes - to continue where he left off from before the injury
Ebert - to be played in the midfield for 4 quarters. Regardless of how bad he goes, leave him there. Lets see what he's made of
portentous
14 May 2006, 21:22
Out Thurstans In Willits for a start.
Casissi out, Ebert in is possible. The rest, well who TF knows what's going on at Alberton?
Out Thurstans In Willits for a start.
Casissi out, Ebert in is possible. The rest, well who TF knows what's going on at Alberton?
I'll be the first to admit i hate thurstans, i have NEVER rated him as a player. BUt his game today wasn't too shabby at all. His biggest asset is his flexibility. He also seems to have an uncanny knack of somehow being in the right spot at the right time, and for the ball to just fall into his arms.
portentous
14 May 2006, 21:26
I want to see Willits play though, particularly this week :)
I want to see Willits play though, particularly this week :)
So dump bishop instead :P
portentous
14 May 2006, 21:30
Either or is fine by me.
Ford Fairlane
14 May 2006, 23:10
From the absolute on-field disorganisation witnessed today I seriously doubt if a fistful of changes is going to make much difference. By all means do it, but I won't be holding my breath that it will change the flow of the current right now. AT least some young guys will get a taste.
PS long range forecast for next Sunday is 14 degrees and rain. Should make for quite a spectacle ...
Porthos
15 May 2006, 00:31
Bishop out, Chaplin in
Walsh out, Lower in
Cassisi out, Thomas in
Dew out, Thomson in
Kingsley out, Ebert in
Thurstans out, Deluca in
The only reason I have Motlop still in is because next week will be wet and low-skill anyway, so we might as well give him one last go.
PJ Power
15 May 2006, 00:33
Bishop out, Chaplin in
Walsh out, Lower in
Cassisi out, Thomas in
Dew out, Thomson in
Kingsley out, Ebert in
Thurstans out, Deluca in
Two questions Porthos:
No room for Willits?
Has Motlop's invisibility earned him another game?
I see my second question has been answered.
I didn't want to say this, but I at least partly agree. He's still showing touches of brilliance but he isn't lifting the team as he used to.Tredrea is not right, but is insisting he plays. Choco said as much when questioned in the post-match.
Damn those knees.
Porthos
15 May 2006, 00:39
Two questions Porthos:
No room for Willits?Wet weather has me leery of picking him, as much as I'd love to see him go toe-to-toe with J. Brown. Make him my first emergency though.
Also I want to see Ezard get a run soon, but am not sure how to work him in. Probably someone else will make a vacancy available next week.
roweman
15 May 2006, 01:03
play the kids and let them sink or swim...there's no future in the hacks running around out there at the moment basking in past glories, let's find out about our depth now!!!
Russian
15 May 2006, 01:09
Thurstans out, Deluca in2K 1H 2M 5HO isn't really recall material - and Broges is back next week
BUt his game today wasn't too shabby at all. His biggest asset is his flexibility. He also seems to have an uncanny knack of somehow being in the right spot at the right time, and for the ball to just fall into his arms.
I think your comments are a very very sad indictment of where our footy club unfortunately is at present.
When we have a guy play as a key-forward, given good gametime and he has 5 kicks for the day and 1 goal is considered not too shabby.:(
I know you blokes would know better about Motlop but would it be worth slotting him in a position where he can find the ball more often rather than FF of the bench, it may throw im into some form once he starts touchin the footy???? I watched fair bit of the game today n if port has been playing like that i dont see how hes gona get any delivery to him really but thats comin from a melbourne suppotert wat do u all think?
PJ Power
15 May 2006, 01:33
I know you blokes would know better about Motlop but would it be worth slotting him in a position where he can find the ball more often rather than FF of the bench, it may throw im into some form once he starts touchin the footy???? I watched fair bit of the game today n if port has been playing like that i dont see how hes gona get any delivery to him really but thats comin from a melbourne suppotert wat do u all think?
He played his second half minutes in defence and made some very average efforts at spoiling his opponent.
The guy looks like one big frizzy-haired sulker.
It is as though he blames everyone around him for the fact that his form s**ks and so he wants us to all know that he doesn't give a damn about how badly he is playing.
He looks so disinterested. I am amazed Williams would let him get away with it - it has been the same for at least 4 of the seven rounds so far.
and to think it was once said he would be AWESOME :o
PJ Power
15 May 2006, 01:41
and to think it was once said he would be AWESOME :o
I think it was Troy Chaplin who forecast to Graham Cornes during the preseason, that Motlop could be in line for the Brownlow. Unfortunatley he didn't specify that he was at the back of the line.
Capital Power
15 May 2006, 07:15
I know you blokes would know better about Motlop but would it be worth slotting him in a position where he can find the ball more often rather than FF of the bench, it may throw im into some form once he starts touchin the footy???? I watched fair bit of the game today n if port has been playing like that i dont see how hes gona get any delivery to him really but thats comin from a melbourne suppotert wat do u all think?
Davy that was suggested in these pages last week, and he played much of yesterday's "game" in defence. When the opposition pots 25 you would expect that to be somewhere where he could find the ball more often, but he didn't.
It could just be confidence - personally I thought he played well against St Kilda but even then looked to be down on himself - he missed a few gettable goals from memory (ahhh, our last win, but already faded into the distant past). Needs a run in the SANFL but if he plays this week then put him on the ball and let him get some touches.
Porthos
15 May 2006, 11:20
2K 1H 2M 5HO isn't really recall materialYeah, doesn't matter.
and Broges is back next weekRun him with South for a week. He came back unfit last time, lets not do that again.
*PAFC*13
15 May 2006, 12:20
B: Michael Wilson, Darryl Wakelin, Ryan Willits
HB: Adam Kingsley, Troy Chaplin, Nathan Lonie
C: Steven Salopek, Chad Cornes, Kane Cornes
HF: Danyle Pearce, Damon White, Peter Burgoyne
F: Michael Pettigrew, Warren Tredrea, Jacob Surjan
1R: Brendon Lade, Shaun Burgoyne, Adam Thomson
INT: Matt Thomas, Fabian Deluca, Toby Thurstans, Josh Mahoney
EMER: Stuart Dew, Brett Ebert, Matthew Bishop
IN: Willits, Chaplin, Thomson, Thomas, Deluca
OUT: Cassisi, Walsh (injured), Motlop, Bishop, Dew (omitted)
NEW: Ryan Willits (Northern Knights), 19
Matt Thomas (Sandringham Dragons), 19
Kept out because they have just come back from injury:
Dean Brogan
Gavin Wanganeen
Josh Francou
Brad Symes
Thomas has to come in, i think we should try him as a midfielder. :thumbsu:
Malibu#27
15 May 2006, 12:27
Yeah, doesn't matter.
I take it your not an advocate of having a player attain a certain level in the SANFL before playing them in the AFL (barring exceptional circumstances injury/reports).
And I will clarify that I am speaking specifically about DeLuca.
Toots Hibbert
15 May 2006, 14:18
Run him with South for a week. He came back unfit last time, lets not do that again.
Broges' form was very ordinary before he got injured.
Cassius_Clay
15 May 2006, 15:23
Will Cassisi definately miss with injury?
Mr Magoo
15 May 2006, 16:07
It doesn't matter at the moment who gets dropped this week as if the players continue to play as individuals they won't win. For a bit of leadership quality look at the article below from todays tiser.
Lions win as a team
By ANDREW HAMILTON
15may06
THE Lions drew a line in the sand against the Hawks at Carrara on Saturday night and declared the blueprint to reverse their season was a resolve to play for each other - and that includes axed star Jason Akermanis.
Jonathan Brown said dented pride, not the circumstances surrounding Akermanis's demotion, was the catalyst for the team-oriented approach that led to the 40-point victory over Hawthorn.
"We really had to draw the line," he said.
"At one and five we were running out of opportunities."
Akermanis made an emphatic bid for a recall to take on Port Adelaide on Sunday with a five-goal effort in the reserves.
"It was a real positive. That's all he can do," Brown said.
"Aker's an important member of our side and it's good to see him get some touch and play some good footy."
^
Now if Warren & the rest of the leadership group would pledge the same sort of commitment to each other we wouldn't be in the position that we're at the moment as eveyone knows when our players decide to play as a team we're capable of beating just about any side eg St Kilda, Swans games this year.
Notice the key word of team is used several times in that article.
The Mighty Port Power
15 May 2006, 17:03
Add Tredrea to the list. His not at all fit and not showing the least of onfield leadership.
He just seems to be struggling to get involved, maybe a move to CHB would see him getting more involved with the play; then hopefully that will fast forward his return to something like the form everyone knows he has.
pafc4life
15 May 2006, 18:37
i'd like to see:
OUT: Motlop, Walsh, Cassisi, Thurstans, Bishop
IN: Chaplin, Symes, Thomas, Shattock, Willits
Russian
15 May 2006, 19:50
Injury list
Brad Symes, appendicitis (Round 6) – available
Peter Walsh, corked thigh (Round 7) – available
Dean Brogan, collapsed lung / broken rib (Round 4) – test
Gavin Wanganeen, calf (5.5.06 training) – test
Josh Francou, adductor (SANFL Round 6) – 1 week
Dom Cassisi, knee, medial ligament (Round 7) – 3-4 weeks
Broges was saying yesterday he could've played but the fitness staff thought he should have a second week of training first, Symes should be ok to come back for Dom
Ford Fairlane
15 May 2006, 20:04
The weather forecast for Sunday is now fine and 14 (cloudy periods).
Mr Magoo
16 May 2006, 03:07
My squad of 25 would be
White, Thurstans, Lade, C.Cornes, K.Cornes, P.Burgoyne, S.Burgoyne, Pearce, Salopek, Lower, Thomas, Thomson, Wakelin, Chaplin, Mahoney, Deluca, Walsh, Wilson, Symes, Bishop, Surjan, Pettigrew, Ebert, Tredrea,
In - Lower, Thomas, Thomson, Chaplin, Deluca, Symes, Ebert
Out -
Dew (dropped)
Motlop (dropped)
Cassisi (inj)
Powerstufff
16 May 2006, 09:51
OUT: Walsh (injury), Cassisi (injury/form), Wilson (his body is not yet up to it and may never be again), Motlop (form), Dew (form), Tredrea (injury?/form), Bishop (form), Lonie (no heart)
IN: Thomson, Willits, Deluca, Chaplin, Symes, Eckermann, Lower (who I know nothing about but hear he may get a crack). Not sure if Ebert should take anyone's spot. This guy should be fighting for his career but isn't.
Edit
Whoops, named Symes twice. This isn't the 'clone' thread.
*PAFC*13
16 May 2006, 16:10
OUT: Walsh (injury), Cassisi (injury/form), Wilson (his body is not yet up to it and may never be again), Motlop (form), Dew (form), Tredrea (injury?/form), Bishop (form), Lonie (no heart)
IN: Thomson, Willits, Deluca, Symes, Chaplin, Symes, Eckermann, Lower (who I know nothing about but hear he may get a crack. Not sure if Ebert should take anyone's spot. This guy should be fighting for his career but isn't.
Don't think so, he's been in the reserves. Chocco hinted that Lower may make his debut... so my Ins and outs.
IN: Thomas, Lower, Chaplin, Brogan, Symes
OUT: Tredrea, Motlop, Dew, Cassisi, Walsh
Lucky to be in: Bishop, Lonie, Wilson, Kingsley, Brogan (Cos of injury)
Unlucky not to be in: Thomson, Deluca, Willits, Ebert
Drummond
16 May 2006, 18:29
You can get lost, don't take Lower and Thomas from the Legs! :(
Gillian Batty
16 May 2006, 20:06
Elijah Ware was listed as an emergency last week.
If Motlop goes, he would probably be the preference to replace him due to his good form in the SANFL of late.
Has potential to be a great player at AFL level.
*PAFC*13
16 May 2006, 22:01
ur keeping bish?!?!?!
I'm not, Choco is ;)
Brian Fantana
17 May 2006, 13:02
Does anybody know how long Brogan is out for???????
*PAFC*13
17 May 2006, 13:09
Does anybody know how long Brogan is out for???????
May be back this week, depends on weather he is fit or not.
Powerstufff
17 May 2006, 13:23
Does anybody know how long Brogan is out for???????The thing is thanks to a career best performance from Lade the ruck area is one of the few parts of our game holding up. Broges return would enable us to have him help down back, or Lade to move up forward, but really won't change our performance at all.
Brian Fantana
19 May 2006, 12:35
Thanks