Aker to Melbourne? [Archive]

melbournemartin

15 May 2006, 19:42

irel

15 May 2006, 19:58

Bruce,Davey and McLean is not enough. You have to throw at least two first round draft picks as well and maybe a second rounder just to get the deal over the line.

Grimreepah

15 May 2006, 20:07

What do you want for Aka? (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=240848)

NICK THE PIE MAN

15 May 2006, 20:13

Bruce,Davey and McLean is not enough. You have to throw at least two first round draft picks as well and maybe a second rounder just to get the deal over the line.

Really hope you are extracting the urine.

ExTasDeeMan

15 May 2006, 20:13

I can only see Aker and Lions playing around during trade week - and then nominating for PSD. Not sure if he is a fit at melbourne to be honest, not sure what we would give away for him.

irel

15 May 2006, 20:40

Really hope you are extracting the urine.
Why? Do you think I have underestimated his value? Maybe I should have asked for more?

Grimreepah

15 May 2006, 20:48

Why? Do you think I have underestimated his value? Maybe I should have asked for more?

Come on irel. Don't get too excited. Let's keep it real, hey. I really think we'd be pushing it getting a second rounder as well.

The Flying Belgian

15 May 2006, 21:03

I can only see Aker and Lions playing around during trade week - and then nominating for PSD.

Aka has another year left on his contract AFAIK.

The Flying Belgian

15 May 2006, 21:04

As for any trade rumours, we might just wait until Aka's mouth has stopped flapping before even thinking trade.

Could be a long wait...

xplo

16 May 2006, 11:02

I can only see Aker and Lions playing around during trade week - and then nominating for PSD. Not sure if he is a fit at melbourne to be honest, not sure what we would give away for him.

I think he's contracted , so the PSD isn't an option.

ExTasDeeMan

16 May 2006, 14:59

I think he's contracted , so the PSD isn't an option.
Yep - read it up after my sweeping statement :)

I think he would be a good suit to Sydney - perhaps Jude Bolton for Aker?

beatnik

16 May 2006, 17:12

if you go to the afl site and listen to the latest podcast, you will see that there is a rumour of Aker going to Melbourne...and they say it is a pretty certain thing.

I'm not convinved whether I want him or not but anyway, hypothetically speaking here, if he was to come to Melbourne, what would you want in a trade?

Please be realistic here, Aker is quite old in football terms so we are not gunna hand over Bruce or Davey or McLean etc.

yes he's 30 but he's also Aker - he comes with a Brownlow, a Dermie call of 10-out-of-10 and 3 flags!! besides, he's in superb condition and comparable with many 27-28 year olds due to his incredible fitness, physique etc

anyway enough of the justifications...

aker will only be traded if he cant step back into line and accept the team's decision - wrong or right

I would hate to see it but if it was to eventuate then i dont think the lions are after an established player - they'd happily to take a 1st and 2nd round pick

probably an early first round pick (top 10) and a mid-late second-round pick (i.e. late 20s) would be enough

dont know if the Dees have any ex-QLD players but they would rate more highly on the Brisbane radar in terms of established youngsters (i.e. no 'go home' risk)

anyway - he's got another year on his contract so the Lions wont be desperate for a deal

I reckon Sydney, Melbourne and another couple of 'top up' clubs will be all over him...rare that you get a chance to add a proven elite midfielder to your list for a couple of 'maybes'

that's my 5c

POBT

16 May 2006, 17:17

dont know if the Dees have any ex-QLD players but they would rate more highly on the Brisbane radar in terms of established youngsters (i.e. no 'go home' risk)

As far as young QLD players go, Brad Miller would be the one but I cannot see Melbourne agreeing to give up Miller for Aker.

melbournemartin

16 May 2006, 18:51

Yeh, especially since he has been promoted into our leadership group. Matthews would like Miller, allowing him to be more flexible with Bradshaw and moreso Brown but Miller for Aker aint fair for Brisbane as Miller is far from proven.

Melbourne wouldn't trade the following:

Johnstone, Bruce, Davey, McLean, Sylvia, Robertson, Green (very small chance but probably no), Rivers, Miller and yeh....pretty much anyone decent so i cant see an Aker trade happenin.

melbournes player that is comparable to Aker is Yze. 29 years old, silky smooth skills yet underpreforming recently. Ofcourse, Aker > Yze by a fair bit and Yze is starting to get some decent form under his belt and is highly regarded at Melbourne so I can't see that happening, even if we threw in a few picks.

Grimreepah

16 May 2006, 19:21

I'm with Beatnik. We don't want to trade players for Aka, we want draft picks. The only exception would be a young (under 23) player that specifically suits our needs. Brad Miller does not.

Tim the Toolman

16 May 2006, 19:24

Keithy George

17 May 2006, 00:46

I don't think anyone that Melbourne would offer for trade wouldn't be worth having for Aka. As they're going to finish in the bottom 4 this year I reckon we'll take their first 2 draft picks as appropriate compensation.

There's about as much chance of us giving the Lions our first round draft picks for Aker as there is us finishing bottom 4. :cool:

Tim the Toolman

17 May 2006, 09:58

So it's a done deal then? :p

POBT

17 May 2006, 10:29

I'm with Beatnik. We don't want to trade players for Aka, we want draft picks. The only exception would be a young (under 23) player that specifically suits our needs. Brad Miller does not.
I agree with you on the draft picks but I rate Miller quite highly and believe he would suit. I know we need midfielders but I don't think we can assume we have key positions settled. Miller is quite young and can play the type of roving CHF that would free Browny up to play full forward, in turn freeing Bradshaw up to settle at CHB. I reckon he would be a Lethal type of player too...hard at the ball, team oriented with a bit of mongrel. Plenty of quality midfielders get drafted between 10 and 40 but not many AFL standard KPPs.

If there was a way of gaining Miller without paying over the odds, then I reckon the club should jump at it. I just don't see Melbourne giving him up at this stage.

Grimreepah

17 May 2006, 11:25

I agree with you on the draft picks but I rate Miller quite highly and believe he would suit. I know we need midfielders but I don't think we can assume we have key positions settled. Miller is quite young and can play the type of roving CHF that would free Browny up to play full forward, in turn freeing Bradshaw up to settle at CHB. I reckon he would be a Lethal type of player too...hard at the ball, team oriented with a bit of mongrel. Plenty of quality midfielders get drafted between 10 and 40 but not many AFL standard KPPs.

If there was a way of gaining Miller without paying over the odds, then I reckon the club should jump at it. I just don't see Melbourne giving him up at this stage.

You may have seen more of Miller than I have, but from what I have seen Miller can be inconsistent, which I had assumed was a symptom of not playing the game all that long.

If Miller was to go CHF and push Bradshaw back to CHB that would mean little room for Leppitsch, Merrett, Pask, Mills, Platfull. As much as I love KPP, we would no doubt have to cut one or two of these players, so I would be interested to see who you opt for. No doubt Miller is better than these guys (including Leppitsch) at the moment, so I am not totally against it. But it's a matter of priorities, so at what cost do you take Miller? A 2nd round draft pick?

POBT

17 May 2006, 12:02

You may have seen more of Miller than I have, but from what I have seen Miller can be inconsistent, which I had assumed was a symptom of not playing the game all that long.

If Miller was to go CHF and push Bradshaw back to CHB that would mean little room for Leppitsch, Merrett, Pask, Mills, Platfull. As much as I love KPP, we would no doubt have to cut one or two of these players, so I would be interested to see who you opt for. No doubt Miller is better than these guys (including Leppitsch) at the moment, so I am not totally against it. But it's a matter of priorities, so at what cost do you take Miller? A 2nd round draft pick?
I rate Miller higher than all of those guys you name. Maybe the Melbourne supporters could shed some light on his consistency but I get the impression that he is pretty well performed given his age.

As far as trades go, given Brisbane's current situation, I wouldn't give up a first round pick but that would be a problem because I reckon he's probably worth a 10-20 pick on the market. I wouldn't entertain a straight swap for Aker at this stage because Aker's worth on the open market is definitely going to change, for better or worse, between now and the trade period.

Grimreepah

17 May 2006, 13:01

I was wondering where this talk of trading Aka to Melbourne was coming from, but it seems to have emanated from Melbourne's president, Paul Gardner (http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,19161178-23211,00.html), saying that they had money to afford someone like Aka.

jmerino

17 May 2006, 13:27

Why the heck should we trade a player of his ilk?He is a Queenslander to boot.
Does a lot to inspire the local kids.Play hard guys, get to the Lions,win the Best ad Fairest, play better than the majority of your team mates, get the boot.

How to kill the code in Qld in one foul swoop.

POBT

17 May 2006, 14:12

Grimreepah

17 May 2006, 15:04

Why the heck should we trade a player of his ilk?

I agree it is unfortunate but if he can't abide by team rules the club is left with no other option.

He is a Queenslander to boot.
Does a lot to inspire the local kids.Play hard guys, get to the Lions,win the Best ad Fairest, play better than the majority of your team mates, get the boot.

That does not give him license to do whatever he wants.

How to kill the code in Qld in one foul swoop.

A bit melodramatic, don't you think:)

The Flying Belgian

17 May 2006, 15:23

Way too early to be talking of definitely trading him.

But I've said it before, no one player is bigger than the team, even in a developing football state like ours.

I've got no problem with Aka being outspoken and being in the media heaps. But when he says stuff that puts pressure on his teammates and refuses to stop doing so, despite being made aware of that fact, he's demonstrating that he thinks he's above the team.

BUT, all of us are human and we all have character flaws and shortcomings. I hope he's learnt something about being in a team this past week and has started to think about how his actions effect others. If he's learnt nothing by the end of the year in this regard then we'll go down that road.

I agree it would be a negative thing for football in Qld it were to happen, but I'd much prefer our team to be a united team.