View Full Version : Round 8 - Port v Brisbane
Sunday 21 May 1310 EST
AAMI Stadium
Not a good time to play Port IMO. Coming off a thrashing, they'll be pretty desperate to find some form. Very similarly placed to us at the moment. This will be a good win for Brisbane if they can pull it off. How we perform against sides like Port will shape our season and determine whether or not we walk away with the wooden spoon.
Brisbane can take the points in this one provided the accountability of last week continues against a Port midfield which still contains the likes of the Burgoynes and should be respected.
Brendon Lade is having a good season and will provide another test for Charmo who keeps aiming up every week.
Shutting down Tredrea will be the key for Brisbane. It is not the obvious match up, but it wouldn't shock me to see Roe take Tredrea, Mal to go to White with Bradshaw taking Cornes (whether he plays forward or back).
The Flying Belgian
16 May 2006, 16:58
I'd have Roe on White, Mal on Tredrea and Braddy on Cornes. Got the feeling Pask will be selected and will play forward with Mitch Clark going back for a spell in the twos (not because his forms been horrible, but just to let him get his hands on the leather a bit more). What happens if they stack the forward line with talls is anyones guess i.e. Lade resting at FF also. Then you've got Motlop...
Tredrea and Motlop have injury concerns over then according to media reports.
and we still have the Blacks and the Powers.
I think we have a good chance in this game, both teams are now in the rebuilding phase but with good solid experienced players in the team so it will be a good spectacle.
Brennan just needs consistency in his game and he will start becoming a match winner and some our young guys r in good form.
Charman's playing awesome footy and will match up and might beat Lade.
should be a good game.
I'd have Roe on White, Mal on Tredrea and Braddy on Cornes. Got the feeling Pask will be selected and will play forward with Mitch Clark going back for a spell in the twos (not because his forms been horrible, but just to let him get his hands on the leather a bit more). What happens if they stack the forward line with talls is anyones guess i.e. Lade resting at FF also. Then you've got Motlop...
Tredrea and Motlop have injury concerns over then according to media reports.
and he is one big unit this guy...in the pre-season game against the Dons, smacked into Lloyd and Lloyd fell on his arse!..haha :D
Tredrea and Motlop have injury concerns over then according to media reports.
I've heard this. Port website doesn't mention it. The injury list there is:
Dean Brogan, collapsed lung / broken rib (Round 4) – test
Dom Cassisi, knee, medial ligament (Round 7) – 3-4 weeks
Josh Francou, adductor (SANFL Round 6) – 1 week
Brad Symes, appendicitis (Round 6) – available
Peter Walsh, corked thigh (Round 7) – available
Gavin Wanganeen, calf (5.5.06) – test
A little whisper that Patfull is close to a senior call up. Anyone else heard anything?
na i havent heard anything and also havent heard that much abt him or seen him play, then again, didnt know that much abt Roe either? :rolleyes:
Thinking Adcock may come in this week to fill in for JMac and Johnno.
Grimreepah
16 May 2006, 17:43
I think if we can play as well as we did last week (which was good but not breath taking) then I think we can get over Port. They clearly aren't traveling too well at the moment. And Cassissi is a big loss for them as well.
I think Bradshaw will start on Tredrea, but there are a few options with Roe, Pask and Michael (in that order) as alternatives. It would be great to see Adcock out there because he is very talented and we have really missed him.
I have a lot more confidence this week because of the job Troy Selwood did on Hodge. If we have a quality tagger to shut down their best midfielder (ie. Kane Cornes) it makes such a difference.
I will be keeping a close eye on Brennan. This guy is a freak, and last week reminded me that he could be one of the best 5 players in the competition. Good luck son.
THE LINEUP I WOULD GO WITH:
FB: B.Scott (D.Motlop) M.Michael (D.White) J.Adcock (D.Pearce)
HB: M.Rischitelli (S.Dew) J.Roe (W.Tredrea) J.Leppitsch (J.Mahoney)
C: J.Sherman (N.Lonie) T.Selwood (K.Cornes) M.Voss (P.Walsh)
HF: J.Brennan (M.Bishop) D.Bradshaw (C.Cornes) M.Moody (M.Wilson)
FF: A.McGrath (S.Burgoyne) J.Brown (S.Wakelin) M.Clark (M.Pettigrew)
R: J.Charman (B.Lade) S.Black (S.Salopek) L.Power (P.Burgoyne)
INT: J.Akermanis, M.Pask, B.Fixter, B.McDonald
(D.Brogan, B.Symes, T.Thurstans, A.Kingsley)
EMG: T. Notting, R.Copeland
Grimreepah
16 May 2006, 19:01
THE LINEUP I WOULD GO WITH:
FB: B.Scott (D.Motlop) M.Michael (D.White) J.Adcock (D.Pearce)
HB: R Copeland (S.Dew) D Bradshaw (W.Tredrea) J.Roe (J.Mahoney)
C: T Notting (N.Lonie) T Selwood (K.Cornes) M.Voss (P.Walsh)
HF: J.Brennan (M.Bishop) J Brown (C.Cornes) J Sherman (M.Wilson)
FF: A.McGrath (S.Burgoyne) M. Pask (S.Wakelin) M. Moody(M.Pettigrew)
R: J.Charman (B.Lade) S.Black (S.Salopek) L.Power (P.Burgoyne)
INT: B McDonald, M. Clark, B.Fixter, M Rischitelli
(D.Brogan, B.Symes, T.Thurstans, A.Kingsley)
In: Adcock, Pask
Out: MacDonald, Harding
We'd have to be a fair bit better than we were against Hawthorn. They didn't have a genuine option for Brown, so unless they could completely dismantle our midfield, they were going to struggle to stop him kicking a score.
Browny won't to be playing on Joel Smith this week.
Brennan could be the one they struggle with. Too tall for Lonie and Wilson. A bit slick for Pettigrew. Burgoyne likes to zone off.
roostersgal4eva
16 May 2006, 20:52
There is talk down here that Tredre might be rested
his knee injuries I believed have caused him to loose confidence
I will be going to the game on the weekend :D so I hope to give a report on what happend
konstas_87
16 May 2006, 21:27
Sunday 21 May 1310 EST
AAMI Stadium
Not a good time to play Port IMO. Coming off a thrashing, they'll be pretty desperate to find some form. Very similarly placed to us at the moment. This will be a good win for Brisbane if they can pull it off. How we perform against sides like Port will shape our season and determine whether or not we walk away with the wooden spoon.
Brisbane can take the points in this one provided the accountability of last week continues against a Port midfield which still contains the likes of the Burgoynes and should be respected.
Brendon Lade is having a good season and will provide another test for Charmo who keeps aiming up every week.
Shutting down Tredrea will be the key for Brisbane. It is not the obvious match up, but it wouldn't shock me to see Roe take Tredrea, Mal to go to White with Bradshaw taking Cornes (whether he plays forward or back).
i tipped us last week, but will have to tip in the negative this week, will be our best win of the year travelling to aami with them on the rebound if we can pull it off.
They dont seem a very good side this year though, so if our forward structure works, and midfield break even, im confident the defence will be more than fine with young Roe impressing, Bradshaw and Michael as options.
konstas_87
16 May 2006, 21:30
THE LINEUP I WOULD GO WITH:
FB: B.Scott (D.Motlop) M.Michael (D.White) J.Adcock (D.Pearce)
HB: R Copeland (S.Dew) D Bradshaw (W.Tredrea) J.Roe (J.Mahoney)
C: T Notting (N.Lonie) T Selwood (K.Cornes) M.Voss (P.Walsh)
HF: J.Brennan (M.Bishop) J Brown (C.Cornes) J Sherman (M.Wilson)
FF: A.McGrath (S.Burgoyne) M. Pask (S.Wakelin) M. Moody(M.Pettigrew)
R: J.Charman (B.Lade) S.Black (S.Salopek) L.Power (P.Burgoyne)
INT: B McDonald, M. Clark, B.Fixter, M Rischitelli
(D.Brogan, B.Symes, T.Thurstans, A.Kingsley)
In: Adcock, Pask
Out: MacDonald, Harding
not sure if ur resting harding from the concussion or judgeing his quiet game, but u cant blood young players in the forward pocket it's nearly the hardest place on the ground to have a consistent influence.
I think they need to play him back.
Grimreepah
16 May 2006, 22:33
not sure if ur resting harding from the concussion or judgeing his quiet game, but u cant blood young players in the forward pocket it's nearly the hardest place on the ground to have a consistent influence.
I think they need to play him back.
I'm not sure what you're saying.
Are you saying that Harding shouldn't have played forward pocked, or are you saying I should go easier on Harding because he is playing in a difficult position, or are you saying that I shouldn't be playing Moody at forward pocket.
FWIW I think everyone played pretty well, including Harding. And I was very impressed with the way he came back from the knock. But with Adcock coming back someone must get left out (and being concussed doesn't help).
If you think Harding should be in the team, who would you drop? (Note I have included Pask because I think that's what the match committe will do)
Vipertooth
16 May 2006, 23:42
Go lions, Brisbane Lions, we shall kick the wining score, you will hear out mighty roar!
Sorry as my first post i had to do that :P
Anyway i been a lions supporter since 1998.
The Lions have been one of the best if not the best teams EVER in AFL history but still collingwood did do 4 in a row, DAMN THEM!
Anywho i beleive the Lions gelled together well last round and this round they should be even better. I say keep the same structure excluding the injuries. Pask would be awsome up front, but our current forwed line is pretty good...
I belive the Lions will beat Port but it will be a close rough game, with loads of takles etc and without treads Port will get smashed :P
GO LIONS :thumbsu:
(P.S ignore the spelling mistakes I cannot be bothered fixing them)
Lions43
16 May 2006, 23:58
EMG:[/COLOR] T. Notting, R.Copeland
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This cannot possibly happen as both were amongst our best last week...
Grimreepah
17 May 2006, 00:00
I belive the Lions will beat Port but it will be a close rough game, with loads of takles etc and without treads Port will get smashed
Lions will smash Port in a close one. Interesting.
Vipertooth
17 May 2006, 01:10
Lions will smash Port in a close one. Interesting.
What i meant was if they dont have tred we will smash em :p
(Note I have included Pask because I think that's what the match committe will do)
Two things might influence whether Pask plays - the weather conditions and Tredrea. If it is a wet day or if Tredrea is ruled out, then I wouldn't play Pask as there simply won't be the need for another key defender. However, if Port lines up with 3 or 4 tall forwards (eg Tredrea, White, Thurstans/Cornes with Lade pushing forward) on a dry day then Pask becomes valuable either as a match up for one of those guys or to play forward, allowing Bradshaw to play back.
In short, I agree with you Reepah - Pask would not have been elevated unless there was a reasonable chance he would get a game this weekend. I daresay he might travel to Adelaide as part of an extended bench.
Grimreepah
17 May 2006, 09:53
What i meant was if they dont have tred we will smash em :p
Don't presume I'll go easy on ya just because you're a newbie:p:D
The Flying Belgian
17 May 2006, 10:00
I'm not sure what you're saying.
Are you saying that Harding shouldn't have played forward pocked, or are you saying I should go easier on Harding because he is playing in a difficult position, or are you saying that I shouldn't be playing Moody at forward pocket.
Keep in mind there really isn't any such thing as a forward pocket these days. There might only be a handful of specialist FP's running around today". As most of the time we'll play a 4 or 5-man forward line, but in reailty we'll have a couple of guys out of the goal square and the rest will play as a kind of forward-of-the-ball midfielder
konstas_87
17 May 2006, 18:17
I'm not sure what you're saying.
Are you saying that Harding shouldn't have played forward pocked, or are you saying I should go easier on Harding because he is playing in a difficult position, or are you saying that I shouldn't be playing Moody at forward pocket.
FWIW I think everyone played pretty well, including Harding. And I was very impressed with the way he came back from the knock. But with Adcock coming back someone must get left out (and being concussed doesn't help).
If you think Harding should be in the team, who would you drop? (Note I have included Pask because I think that's what the match committe will do)
no no i think Harding hasnt done much wrong, and the coaches shouldnt be playing him in the fwd pocket and if they do we shouldnt judge him as a player for having a few quiet ones.
I agree it's hard to tell who to leave out specially if Jed breaks back into the side, wouldnt have any objections to Pask playing following his AFLQ form.
Simply saying i like Harding as a player, fwd pocket isnt a first year players' ideal spot.
konstas_87
17 May 2006, 18:19
THE LINEUP I WOULD GO WITH:
EMG: T. Notting, R.Copeland
1. theyve stuck with Notting this long why drop him this week?
2.Copeland should be in our best 22 every week IMO. Always puts in 100%, never has a shocking game, is a very consistent contributor and a team player.
Grimreepah
18 May 2006, 19:23
Aka and Leppitsch are back (http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,19179838-23211,00.html).
According to the Courier Mail, McGrath, Corrie and Aker all need to undergo fitness tests before being considered for the final 22.
Injuries pending, I wouldn't be surprised to see Mitch Clark drop out. The fact that there's no Reserves footy this week might provide the ideal opportunity to give the young guy a break away from footy. Playing ruck and key forward in the seniors as an 18 year old is a massive achievement but we don't want to burn the guy out.
konstas_87
19 May 2006, 12:52
agreed, but he has missed one game so far.
Id like it to be Aker and Corrie for Macdonald and Robbie Copeland.
Although it looks like they are going to play leppa to combat the potentially tall fwd line of Port.
agreed, but he has missed one game so far.
Id like it to be Aker and Corrie for Macdonald and Robbie Copeland.
Although it looks like they are going to play leppa to combat the potentially tall fwd line of Port.
And the bye week isn't too far away either so there's another break for Clark.
I'd still rest him. I'd prefer to see him miss 4-5 games this year than be burnt out. His output appears to have dropped a little in the last couple of matches - don't know whether this is a result of fatigue or something else.
Grimreepah
19 May 2006, 13:42
And the bye week isn't too far away either so there's another break for Clark.
I'd still rest him. I'd prefer to see him miss 4-5 games this year than be burnt out. His output appears to have dropped a little in the last couple of matches - don't know whether this is a result of fatigue or something else.
Konstas has pointed out that it is harder for forward pockets to be consistent, especially for someone who is new to the game (the example was Harding). Should we afford Clark the same latitude, or is he different because he is tall?
Tall pockets are a slightly different case.
Classic small forward pockets are always in a classic catch 22. If the midfield is getting smashed the footy doesn't come near them. If the midfield is killing em, but the power forwards are catching everything (like Brown often does) they look superflous to needs.
Basically to get a kick they have to barrack for our midfield and their tall backs -- a perilous existence as Milney well knows.
In the rare recent times our midfield has supplied footy to our forward line, Brown, Braddy and Co have snaffled the majority of it, leaving few scraps for the McGrath's and Corries.
Clarkey has more options as a works the ground level stuff very well, and can still take a grab.
Konstas has pointed out that it is harder for forward pockets to be consistent, especially for someone who is new to the game (the example was Harding). Should we afford Clark the same latitude, or is he different because he is tall?
For starters, I disagree that he has been playing forward pocket. It seems to me that he's been a mobile tall target rather than someone who plays in a forward pocket. Basically a CHF playing on a half forward flank. I guess it is another example of TFB's view that there are very few true forward pockets these days (and they'd probably be called goal sneaks anyway!).
But I think we need to show a substantial amount of latitude to any young tall player. It is so rare for a guy to perform as well as Mitch has at that age. This is true of players of any type, let alone tall forwards. My comment wasn't meant to be that he should be dropped because his output has dropped but that his lesser form may be indicative that his body is starting to tire.
All the patience in the world should be shown to this guy.
I like the maturity Clark has shown, he looks future captain material, just hope we can keep him. He also seems super confident too, I also liked how young Harding came back on after that heavy knock ,and the concern showed to him from Browny and co after he was floored.
Grimreepah
21 May 2006, 15:29
Very happy with the first half. I think Port have been a lot better opposition than Hawthorn, although Tredrea doesn't look very threatening.
What's pleasing to me is that the Lions are looking very confident, which shows that they are starting to gel.
I love watching Jared Brennan play football.
Very happy with the first half. I think Port have been a lot better opposition than Hawthorn, although Tredrea doesn't look very threatening.
What's pleasing to me is that the Lions are looking very confident, which shows that they are starting to gel.
I love watching Jared Brennan play football.
Agreed. Good to see yet another debut, Patfull looks ok. Moody generating some pace, looks like a midfielder with skills and Selwood doing well. Great to see Adcock too, although he hasn't been prominant, he will be better for the run.
Fantastic game from the boys. There will be more ups and downs as the year goes on but some of the kids are starting to look like they will be the real deal.
Melbourne Lion
21 May 2006, 16:55
Good stuff boys.Great win.:thumbsu:
Crow-eater
21 May 2006, 16:57
Go Brisbane:thumbsu: great win:D
Grimreepah
21 May 2006, 17:52
... and the coaches shouldnt be playing him in the fwd pocket and if they do we shouldnt judge him as a player for having a few quiet ones.
Your point has been proven with Ash McGrath. Hardly touched the ball early on, but once the midfield gets on top he has an opportunity to show his wares. And what a blinder he had today.
roostersgal4eva
21 May 2006, 18:09
just got home now :D
great win - ash mcgrath was quite in first harlf and great in the second. Rowy again stared as did Riska & Corrie was fantastic
Aker was very good as was power, blacky and Vossy
Brown teared w"nklyn a new one and tredre is now mals bitch :p
Grimreepah
21 May 2006, 18:11
just got home now :D
great win - ash mcgrath was quite in first harlf and great in the second. Rowy again stared as did Riska & Corrie was fantastic
Aker was very good as was power, blacky and Vossy
Brown teared w"nklyn a new one and tredre is now mals bitch :p
translation:
quite = quiet
stared = starred
now = still
raikkonen
21 May 2006, 21:07
just got home now :D
great win - ash mcgrath was quite in first harlf and great in the second. Rowy again stared as did Riska & Corrie was fantastic
Aker was very good as was power, blacky and Vossy
Brown teared w"nklyn a new one and tredre is now mals bitch :p
Tredrea is actually rutten's bitch :thumbsu: .
Anyway, was at the game today. And you guys looked amazing. Thoroughly enjoyed the game, especially the good work up foward from Brown (i'd kill to have him and Pav in our my foward line), and also Bradshaw (although he was only on Bishop after all). Luke Power was in top form today, and was also impressive. My favourite moment in the game would have to be that dummy Charman gave to get between to port guys, and the handball Sherman received from Bishop to get the dribble checkside goal.
Top Win. Hope you make the finals.
Tredrea is actually rutten's bitch :thumbsu: .
We can pass him around... I am sure he isn't done yet either.