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docker_johnno
16 May 2006, 18:06
Well it seems as though Harvey will be taking the reigns at Essendon and it may well be before the year is out.
Conolly looks safe for the time being.
Chris has coached well in recent weeks and I think he is the man for the next few years. If he could get a more competitve midifield then he would be well equipped to attack a finals series. So far he hasnt quite had the cattle.
ImperialPurple
16 May 2006, 18:08
Well it seems as though Harvey will be taking the reigns at Essendon and it may well be before the year is out.
Conolly looks safe for the time being.
Chris has coached well in recent weeks and I think he is the man for the next few years. If he could get a more competitve midifield then he would be well equipped to attack a finals series. So far he hasnt quite had the cattle.
What? :confused: Where did you hear that???
Longy413
16 May 2006, 18:11
Well it seems as though Harvey will be taking the reigns at Essendon and it may well be before the year is out.
Well that's a load of crap.
Well it seems as though Harvey will be taking the reigns at Essendon and it may well be before the year is out.
Conolly looks safe for the time being.
Chris has coached well in recent weeks and I think he is the man for the next few years. If he could get a more competitve midifield then he would be well equipped to attack a finals series. So far he hasnt quite had the cattle.
I think your referring to an interview I heard fleetingly this morning on the radio, I got the impression that CC was responding to a hypothetical,somethiing like:
If Sheeds gets the arse would you or the FFC stand in Harvs way if he wanted to return.
CC's response was obviously F***k no!:thumbsu:
fat wombat
16 May 2006, 19:07
What makes you think that when they have an experienced assistant like Gary Ayres in there? And a great up and comer like Gary O'Donnell.
docker_johnno
16 May 2006, 21:12
Mark Harvey will be at Essendon as head coach in 2007 and possibly before. You can bookmark this, it is 100% to happen.
purplehase4
16 May 2006, 21:17
Says who docker johnno?
droppuntkick23
16 May 2006, 21:56
Mark Harvey will be at Essendon as head coach in 2007 and possibly before. You can bookmark this, it is 100% to happen.
WRONG.
Mark actually likes living at Cottisloe Beach
docker_johnno
16 May 2006, 22:33
WRONG.
Mark actually likes living at Cottisloe Beach
I knew being at the Fremantle Football club was just like one big holiday
Longy413
16 May 2006, 23:10
Essendon won't sack Sheedy. He'll see out his contract.
Sacking him will destroy the club, after all he has done there is no way it would ever be considered. The board aren't that stupid.
Don't kid yourself.
dominguez
16 May 2006, 23:10
Mark Harvey came to Freo because he knows that Gary O'Donnell is ahead of him in the pecking order. There is also the possibility that Bomber Thompson, Neale Daniher, Mark Williams or Denis Pagan will be looking for a new job at seasons end.
If Harvey was the heir apparent he would have remained at Windy Hill.
Eagles4Ever
17 May 2006, 00:53
Well it seems as though Harvey will be taking the reigns at Essendon and it may well be before the year is out.
Conolly looks safe for the time being.
Chris has coached well in recent weeks and I think he is the man for the next few years. If he could get a more competitve midifield then he would be well equipped to attack a finals series. So far he hasnt quite had the cattle.
Sorry to butt in but there is nothing wrong with your current "cattle" stocks.
Your post is totally wrong from start to finish.
spitlizard
17 May 2006, 01:18
Sorry to butt in but there is nothing wrong with your current "cattle" stocks.
I totally agree.
Brickie
17 May 2006, 01:20
Harvey is more likely to get a gig as a senior coach over east than he is at Freo. He's 3rd in line at best, wasn't even there first choice for the assistant's Job.
docker_johnno
17 May 2006, 03:31
Sorry to butt in but there is nothing wrong with your current "cattle" stocks.
Your post is totally wrong from start to finish.
For a team that plays at Subiaco most weeks the midfield isnt as strong as it needs to be.
CC hasn't helped himself much by playing Schammer and Bell in the backline. Matt Carr is also terribly out of form, Headland and McManus are injured. My Bigfooty buddy Schofield will get a run this week. We do need some precise foot skills delivering to our forwards, whether Jarrad has the hardness and will put his body on the line against a tough roos outfit?
docker_johnno
17 May 2006, 03:32
Sorry to butt in but there is nothing wrong with your current "cattle" stocks.
Your post is totally wrong from start to finish.
Well sir change your signature. The best in the West is from the Port and we have the trophy to prove it.
If my noises in the powder room are right then my post is 100% accurate.
Lets analyse this. Harvey wants a top job, he was directly below Sheedy, He was wooed west to become the highest paid assistant ever, He came to Fremantle good list (Better than the Bombers) CC's job on the line was likely in most eyes to take the Freo job during the year.
The situation now looks like CC is safe, meanwhile Sheedy has been hanging around like Johnny Howard and it finally his time is coming to an end. Did you see the Essendon heavy on 7 news tonight saying Sheedy's job is 100% safe? A sure sign a coach is going to go. All good things must come to and end and Kevin has certainly had his time and done a fantastic job.
Harvey is the ideal man with his experience to get the job he has been waiting for the trip west has not hurt his chances one little bit.
All of you seem really touchy about this. He is an assistant coach, a good one but it is not the end of the world if he goes.
wehavethepassion
17 May 2006, 12:35
Well sir change your signature. The best in the West is from the Port and we have the trophy to prove it.
If my noises in the powder room are right then my post is 100% accurate.
Lets analyse this. Harvey wants a top job, he was directly below Sheedy, He was wooed west to become the highest paid assistant ever, He came to Fremantle good list (Better than the Bombers) CC's job on the line was likely in most eyes to take the Freo job during the year.
The situation now looks like CC is safe, meanwhile Sheedy has been hanging around like Johnny Howard and it finally his time is coming to an end. Did you see the Essendon heavy on 7 news tonight saying Sheedy's job is 100% safe? A sure sign a coach is going to go. All good things must come to and end and Kevin has certainly had his time and done a fantastic job.
Harvey is the ideal man with his experience to get the job he has been waiting for the trip west has not hurt his chances one little bit.
All of you seem really touchy about this. He is an assistant coach, a good one but it is not the end of the world if he goes.
Aryes is there to take over he been there, Harvey hasn't.
Also Harvey would need a permanent media minder because he's very ordinary when interviewed.
JuddyisGod
17 May 2006, 13:40
For a team that plays at Subiaco most weeks the midfield isnt as strong as it needs to be.
CC hasn't helped himself much by playing Schammer and Bell in the backline. Matt Carr is also terribly out of form, Headland and McManus are injured. My Bigfooty buddy Schofield will get a run this week. We do need some precise foot skills delivering to our forwards, whether Jarrad has the hardness and will put his body on the line against a tough roos outfit?
I interviewed Schoey yesterday he is rearing to go don't worry about that.
kanabar
17 May 2006, 13:46
I interviewed Schoey yesterday he is rearing to go don't worry about that.
give us transcript of the interview
JuddyisGod
17 May 2006, 13:51
give us transcript of the interview
haven't written it up yet, it's only on cassette. I didn't focus entirely on the Dockers more his whole career if that's what you were after. But he said Chris Connolly was the right man to take Freo to the finals, he also said last year was a complete write off because after his 2 surgeries he just couldn't run properly, but now he's got a full pre-season behind him he is confident of having a good year.
jp21aga
17 May 2006, 15:00
Saw on sky news Essendon (CEO I think) saying that Mark Harvey was the man to help them climb the ladder and that they would be pursuing him next year..
docker_johnno
17 May 2006, 16:10
Saw on sky news Essendon (CEO I think) saying that Mark Harvey was the man to help them climb the ladder and that they would be pursuing him next year..
Bingo
kanabar
17 May 2006, 16:29
Saw on sky news Essendon (CEO I think) saying that Mark Harvey was the man to help them climb the ladder and that they would be pursuing him next year..
what does this say for sheeds is a pitty meaning no renewal of contract at the dons...maybe a trade sheeds for harvey ...
Saw on sky news Essendon (CEO I think) saying that Mark Harvey was the man to help them climb the ladder and that they would be pursuing him next year..
That is a big statement, I could not find any article on skys website that confirmed it. With such a big statement I would have thought it would be one of their lead articles. You'll have to do better than just "Saw on sky news...".
I would not like to lose Harvey, If CC just keeps Freo performing as a 'middle of the road' team, which is all we have been , I cannot see the point of any more suffering of 'same old same old'. What I will say and I have been watching them train for the last 5 years is a DEFINATE change with the appointment of Harvey and Shaw. Players have jumped to new levels, JJ being a prime example. They are definately no longer a 'soft touch' team. I am 100% positive this new hardness at the ball and opposition is directly linked to Harvey. I like it and I want to see more of it, so that means Harvey should never be released.
Well sir change your signature. The best in the West is from the Port and we have the trophy to prove it.
If my noises in the powder room are right then my post is 100% accurate.
Lets analyse this. Harvey wants a top job, he was directly below Sheedy, He was wooed west to become the highest paid assistant ever, He came to Fremantle good list (Better than the Bombers) CC's job on the line was likely in most eyes to take the Freo job during the year.
The situation now looks like CC is safe, meanwhile Sheedy has been hanging around like Johnny Howard and it finally his time is coming to an end. Did you see the Essendon heavy on 7 news tonight saying Sheedy's job is 100% safe? A sure sign a coach is going to go. All good things must come to and end and Kevin has certainly had his time and done a fantastic job.
Harvey is the ideal man with his experience to get the job he has been waiting for the trip west has not hurt his chances one little bit.
All of you seem really touchy about this. He is an assistant coach, a good one but it is not the end of the world if he goes.
That's where you're wrong.
dominguez
17 May 2006, 19:26
Lets analyse this. Harvey wants a top job, he was directly below Sheedy, He was wooed west to become the highest paid assistant ever, He came to Fremantle good list (Better than the Bombers) CC's job on the line was likely in most eyes to take the Freo job during the year.
The situation now looks like CC is safe, meanwhile Sheedy has been hanging around like Johnny Howard and it finally his time is coming to an end. Did you see the Essendon heavy on 7 news tonight saying Sheedy's job is 100% safe? A sure sign a coach is going to go. All good things must come to and end and Kevin has certainly had his time and done a fantastic job.
Harvey is the ideal man with his experience to get the job he has been waiting for the trip west has not hurt his chances one little bit.
All of you seem really touchy about this. He is an assistant coach, a good one but it is not the end of the world if he goes.
Harvey wasn't directly below Sheedy. Gary O'Donnell is seen as a better coach by the bombers, so Harvey came across to be first in line for the Freo job if/when CC gets the heave ho.
Who decided Connolly is safe? Sure he got a lot of people back on side with the way he handled the Tassie situation and by winning the derby, but things can change quickly. If we lose to the roos or richmond the knives will be out again.
The Essendon CEO saying Sheedy's job is safe is a sure indication that his days are numbered? Hart and Schwab have been defending Connolly for 2 years, and he's still here. Sheedy is still twice the coach Connolly will ever be.
If Mark Williams, Denis Pagan or Bomber Thompson are interested in the bombers job at seasons end, do you think Mark Harvey will be ahead of those three?
I'm not touchy about it, I just disagree with you. I haven't seen a huge difference since Harvey arrived (we're still inconsistent) and wouldn't be disappointed if he left, aslong as Connolly also departs if we don't win a final. I want an experienced coach if we are looking at seasons end, not another untried assistant.
wehavethepassion
17 May 2006, 22:41
I would not like to lose Harvey, If CC just keeps Freo performing as a 'middle of the road' team, which is all we have been , I cannot see the point of any more suffering of 'same old same old'. What I will say and I have been watching them train for the last 5 years is a DEFINATE change with the appointment of Harvey and Shaw. Players have jumped to new levels, JJ being a prime example. They are definately no longer a 'soft touch' team. I am 100% positive this new hardness at the ball and opposition is directly linked to Harvey. I like it and I want to see more of it, so that means Harvey should never be released.
Who is going to sack connolly if its the "same old"? The same people who appointed him and extended his contract will this be there.
spitlizard
18 May 2006, 01:24
I would not like to lose Harvey, If CC just keeps Freo performing as a 'middle of the road' team, which is all we have been , I cannot see the point of any more suffering of 'same old same old'. What I will say and I have been watching them train for the last 5 years is a DEFINATE change with the appointment of Harvey and Shaw. Players have jumped to new levels, JJ being a prime example. They are definately no longer a 'soft touch' team. I am 100% positive this new hardness at the ball and opposition is directly linked to Harvey. I like it and I want to see more of it, so that means Harvey should never be released.
I agree. If there has been any influences this year, it has been Harvey and Shaw. I always (and still do) believe that CC doesn't apply good tactics when the heat is on. As another poster said, a few loses to lower teams i.e. Roos, Richmond and out will come the knives.
docker_johnno
18 May 2006, 02:19
Connolly is safe I am right behind him, he is doing as good a job as any. The weekend was an abboration, winning teams dont play well after derbys, the eagles lost at home after their last.
The board have a lot to do with the club and they see first hand all the good work connolly is doing and they know it is the players who are letting him down.
malpaso
18 May 2006, 14:59
I want an experienced coach if we are looking at seasons end, not another untried assistant.
If CC is given the heave-ho I would like to see a new head coach that fires up the players!
We seem to have a head coach and a players leadership group that is incapable of firing each other up for a game and during a game.
So many times after an abysmal quarter of footy by the boys, CC is seen playing with the magnetic board. GET STUCK INTO THE PLAYERS! GIV EM SOME FIRE! Good teams have players that can 'coach' themselves out of poor play during a game. We dont have any.
Slacker
18 May 2006, 15:41
If CC is given the heave-ho I would like to see a new head coach that fires up the players!
We seem to have a head coach and a players leadership group that is incapable of firing each other up for a game and during a game.
So many times after an abysmal quarter of footy by the boys, CC is seen playing with the magnetic board. GET STUCK INTO THE PLAYERS! GIV EM SOME FIRE! Good teams have players that can 'coach' themselves out of poor play during a game. We dont have any.
Laidley might be worth considering. He certainly has the grumpy quotient you mention.
Out of favour at North ATM.
Laidley might be worth considering. He certainly has the grumpy quotient you mention.
Out of favour at North ATM.
I can't stand Laidley, I recall a few times that he seemed to place the blame squarely on his players after a loss and I don't think that's good coaching! I'd be spewin if we ended up with him!
Slacker
18 May 2006, 16:07
I can't stand Laidley, I recall a few times that he seemed to place the blame squarely on his players after a loss and I don't think that's good coaching! I'd be spewin if we ended up with him!
Just throwing it out there.
I agree that his stocks are down this season, however, he is a disicplinarian type coach and he has extracted some pretty good consistent performances from North's squad. Seems to be what most dockers fans desire, consistency and discipline.
Blaming the players after a loss could either be:
(a) A good coach playing mind games with his team
(b) A bad coach pointing fingers
I guess we just see that one differently, but it is a judgement call.
Just throwing it out there.
I agree that his stocks are down this season, however, he is a disicplinarian type coach and he has extracted some pretty good consistent performances from North's squad. Seems to be what most dockers fans desire, consistency and discipline.
Blaming the players after a loss could either be:
(a) A good coach playing mind games with his team
(b) A bad coach pointing fingers
I guess we just see that one differently, but it is a judgement call.
lol , go back and check their results!
They are more inconsistant than us
Just throwing it out there.
I agree that his stocks are down this season, however, he is a disicplinarian type coach and he has extracted some pretty good consistent performances from North's squad. Seems to be what most dockers fans desire, consistency and discipline.
Blaming the players after a loss could either be:
(a) A good coach playing mind games with his team
(b) A bad coach pointing fingers
I guess we just see that one differently, but it is a judgement call.
Yeah, I've heard him mentioned as a possible coach a couple of times by friends but there's just something I don't like about him. Looks like he's going to blow a brain vessel sometimes and that can't be good! :)
Slacker
18 May 2006, 16:43
lol , go back and check their results!
They are more inconsistant than us
They seem to be pretty consistent when we play them.
But yeah Laidley's record has been fairly average till this year, pretty similar to CCs in fact. I guess I take the view that he has surpassed my expectations with the talent level available to him.
If, and a big if, we look to change coaches at seasons end I would be disappointed if he wasn't considered.
spring6
18 May 2006, 18:23
They seem to be pretty consistent when we play them.
But yeah Laidley's record has been fairly average till this year, pretty similar to CCs in fact. I guess I take the view that he has surpassed my expectations with the talent level available to him.
If, and a big if, we look to change coaches at seasons end I would be disappointed if he wasn't considered.
Laids has done fairly average with fairly average players.
Connelly on the other hand has done fairly average with excellent cattle.
I would consider laidley an improvement. Sometimes a coach who cares enough to pop a blood vessel is a good thing.
Laids has done fairly average with fairly average players.
Connelly on the other hand has done fairly average with excellent cattle.
I would consider laidley an improvement. Sometimes a coach who cares enough to pop a blood vessel is a good thing.
They have both been there long enough to have the cattle that they have drafted.
dominguez
18 May 2006, 21:15
I guess the difference is that Laidley took over a list of quality players who were long in the tooth, while Connolly took over a list laden with early draft picks.
Both have traded for success and failed.
dominguez
18 May 2006, 21:18
The board have a lot to do with the club and they see first hand all the good work connolly is doing and they know it is the players who are letting him down.
So we'll be trading 30+ players at seasons end? It would be much easier to get a coach that can inspire the playing group rather than make that many trades I would have thought.
wehavethepassion
18 May 2006, 22:57
Laids has done fairly average with fairly average players.
Connelly on the other hand has done fairly average with excellent cattle.
I would consider laidley an improvement. Sometimes a coach who cares enough to pop a blood vessel is a good thing.
Laidley Comes from the Darth Vader meat head school, wouldn't go near him with a 100m pole.
mick ryan
19 May 2006, 09:40
whether Jarrad has the hardness and will put his body on the line against a tough roos outfit?
I wouldn't be putting my house on it! anyway what has this got to do with Mark Harvey?