ins & outs this week

[domc]

in: ebert ezard chaplin symes thomson deluca
out: motlop dew cassisi

[gbear]

in: ebert chaplin symes thomson deluca
out: motlop dew

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Should have been a few more outs IMO

[domc]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Should have been a few more outs IMO

true but then you cant drop 18 players can you!

[PowerDave]

Cassisi is also out

[Jesse]

where do u find the ins and outs so early, i cant find them anywhere?

[Russian]

Symes in :)

B: Shaun Burgoyne, Matthew Bishop, Michael Wilson
HB: Adam Kingsley, Darryl Wakelin, Brad Symes
C: Danyle Pearce, Kane Cornes, Peter Walsh
HF: Steven Salopek, Warren Tredrea, Jacob Surjan
F: Josh Mahoney, Damon White, Toby Thurstans
R: Brendon Lade, Chad Cornes, Peter Burgoyne
Interchange from: Troy Chaplin, Fabian Deluca, Brett Ebert, James Ezard, Nathan Lonie, Michael Pettigrew, Adam Thomson

[Jesse]

So much for Lower being in this week. It would have been a good game for a young player to debut.

[*PAF]

So much for Lower being in this week. It would have been a good game for a young player to debut.
You've got to be kidding me right?
We are talking Mark Williams here.

Until Troy Chaplin, Fabian Deluca, Brett Ebert, James Ezard, Michael Pettigrew, Adam Thomson, Brad Symes, Danyle Pearce, Steven Salopek, and Jacob Surjan have been either tried for 50 to 100 games or have been delisted, no one else will get a sniff.
No one from this year or even next year's draft.
Plus we will trade for more players that will jump in ahead of them. ;)

[nivek48]

akers back for lions!

BRISBANE LIONS
B: Sherman, Michael, Roe
HB: B.Scott, Leppitsch, Notting
C: Rischitelli, Voss, Selwood
HF: Brennan, Brown, McGrath
F: Moody, Bradshaw, McDonald
FOLL: Charman, Black, Power
I/C (from): Adcock, Merrett, Fixter, Harding, Corrie, Akermanis, M.Clark
IN: Akermanis, Adcock, Merrett, Corrie, Leppitsch
OUT: Copeland (ankle), Macdonald (knee)

[sog35]

Ezard is winning West Adelaide's B&F at the moment. He's a better bet than Lower.

If he gets in, it will decimate West's chances but will provide a bit of mongrel around the packs. He deserves a chance.

[PJ Power]

Best case scenario now IMO, would be for
Chaplin to come in for Pettigrew (I would have preferred Bishop, but looks like he is set).
Thomson to replace Lonie.

Overall that would make it
Lonie, Dew, Pettigrew, Cassisi, Motlop out.
Thomson, Ebert, Ezard, Chaplin, Symes in.

[PJ Power]

I'd like to see Ezard given real responsibility if he lines up - preferably starting 18 lining up on one of Brisbane's prime midfielders (say Power). If ever a kid had the hallmark beginnings of the next Josh Carr, this is the one IMO.

Surprisingly early draft pick with little pre-draft hype.
Average first SANFL season.
Not alot to show for preseason gametime in second year on the list.
Bit more consistency at SANFL level in first part of second year, but nothing overly dominant.
Brought into the AFL side during a very tough patch and lots of losses.
Gets some tough tagging assignments first off.
Quietly goes about his work and gets the job done.

A legend is born.


Seriously, hope he really rises to the occasion and makes his opponents earn every kick.

[Pred]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Should have been a few more outs IMOTwo goldcard holders have finally been flicked. This is a good thing. Celebrate, don't whine.

[PJ Power]

Wishful thinking on my part.

Lonie has not been named for North (neither has Francou who still has the one more week out with injury).

North seem to be the only side with easy access to their named side.

For Sturt you need members' access. Just realised that they have the bye.

For the Magpies, I couldn't find any reference to the selected team on their website.

[Russian]

Ezard is an out for West
Pettigrew is an in for West
Ebert is an out for Port
Lonie not in the North side
Sturt have the bye

also Wanganeen and Looby are ins for Port

[Bresh]

Good selections this week.

In the words of Chocolate, "We look forward to playing some tough footy this week."

[Macca19]

Seems like Ebert, Ezard, Lonie and Chaplin are the bench players.

Ezard getting his debut. Go Jimmy!!

[ctpower]

at least they finally axed dew. i'm sorry but he had to go he's been very ordinary.cassisi going out is also a plus IMO.
lets hope we see some some positive signs from the some of the kids.i especially hope chaplin gets a game and plays on brown.

[Magpiespower]

out: motlop dew cassisi

Finally, something we can all be in agreeance on!

:thumbsu:

[portentous]

Bit disappointed that Willitts is not getting a run but otherwise pretty happy. Just hope that Chappy isn't left on his own vs J Brown, who kicked a bagfull last week, or it will be the end of his season confidence-wise.

[domc]

I'd like to see Ezard given real responsibility if he lines up - preferably starting 18 lining up on one of Brisbane's prime midfielders (say Power). If ever a kid had the hallmark beginnings of the next Josh Carr, this is the one IMO.

Likewise Id like to see Ezard get a run-with role from the start and hopefully that can free up Kane to play as a free running midfielder and show some of the form we know he is capable of.

In regards to Bishop, I know we all would like to see him dropped, but really which youngster are we going to bring to play his role?? We really are quite thin on the defenders IMO, especially with a view to the future. I think we need to draft a tall, quick defender this year definitely.

[Bresh]

Just hope that Chappy isn't left on his own vs J Brown, who kicked a bagfull last week, or it will be the end of his season confidence-wise.

How empathetic of you, that you wouldn't want Brown's confidence shattered for the rest of the year after a match-up with the Collossus.

[SAMOTH]

So much for Lower being in this week. It would have been a good game for a young player to debut.

I think you might be getting ahead of yourself hear Lower will play BUT he has only played 1 senoir SANFL game this year (a good one at that )
I would feel Thomas is ahead at this stage hes had 5 out of 6 in the best for Norwood .

[*PAFC*13]

I'd like to see Ezard given real responsibility if he lines up - preferably starting 18 lining up on one of Brisbane's prime midfielders (say Power). If ever a kid had the hallmark beginnings of the next Josh Carr, this is the one IMO.

Surprisingly early draft pick with little pre-draft hype.
Average first SANFL season.
Not alot to show for preseason gametime in second year on the list.
Bit more consistency at SANFL level in first part of second year, but nothing overly dominant.
Brought into the AFL side during a very tough patch and lots of losses.
Gets some tough tagging assignments first off.
Quietly goes about his work and gets the job done.

A legend is born.


Seriously, hope he really rises to the occasion and makes his opponents earn every kick.

This is a great post, it warmed my heart. Carr was also in his second season when he got picked to play his first. He would have been around the same height and weight as Ezard. Congrate's Jimmy good selections this week. :thumbsu: :thumbsu:

[wharfie_1870]

Two goldcard holders have finally been flicked. This is a good thing. Celebrate, don't whine.Whooooo hoooooo!!

http://portadelaidefc.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/person/013406aj.jpg = http://www.mainstreetcasino.com/dyn_images/library/Players-Gold-card-new.gif :mad:

[Bresh]

I hope Westies enjoyed renting Ezard for 1.33 seasons. Has betting opened on his Brownlow year yet?

[Ford Fairlane]

It's good to see that some young players have been – well reinstated more than given a chance (Ezard’s the only newbie) … but we had about 18 passengers last week and if that sort of general malaise hits the team again, it really won’t matter.

Just by the by, I would've taken a couple more out. Definitely would've found a spot for Willits.

Congrats to Tim Looby for cracking the Port Magpies league side. Here's hoping he puts on a good show.

[crazy_big_al]

I think you might be getting ahead of yourself hear Lower will play BUT he has only played 1 senoir SANFL game this year (a good one at that )
I would feel Thomas is ahead at this stage hes had 5 out of 6 in the best for Norwood .


I would feel the same.

Jimmy is getting a game. he is a good little player saw him play against Port at richmond he was good

[finbarr]

Likewise Id like to see Ezard get a run-with role from the start and hopefully that can free up Kane to play as a free running midfielder and show some of the form we know he is capable of.

In regards to Bishop, I know we all would like to see him dropped, but really which youngster are we going to bring to play his role?? We really are quite thin on the defenders IMO, especially with a view to the future. I think we need to draft a tall, quick defender this year definitely.

If Williams was prepared to show more faith in some of our youngsters (ie. Thomson, Ebert), aswell as giving Shaun Burgoyne a greater midfield role he could afford to put Chad down back & drop Matthew Bishop. Unfortunately he seems more concerned with preserving his precious win/loss ratio than the development of these young guys. So, Bishop stays while Chad continues to plug holes.

[Bresh]

If Williams was prepared to show more faith in some of our youngsters (ie. Thomson, Ebert), aswell as giving Shaun Burgoyne a greater midfield role he could afford to put Chad down back & drop Matthew Bishop. Unfortunately he seems more concerned with preserving his precious win/loss ratio than the development of these young guys. So, Bishop stays while Chad continues to plug holes.

Exactly. I'd back Wakelin, Chad and Chaplin against any forward 3. Cornesy could be the 3rd tall anyway and still be allowed to run off - so it wouldn't be the end of the world.

[Porthos]

I can't believe we've dropped Pettigrew.

Good luck to Ezard though.

[wharfie_1870]

I can't believe we've dropped Pettigrew.

Good luck to Ezard though.One step forward, one step back.

We had to drop Pettigrew to make way for Chaplin's return. What other tall defender could we possibly drop?

[Ford Fairlane]

It was ridiculous that earlier in the year Chaplin was expected to play CHB as the creative rebounding defender at 19, while Wakes and Bish were chained to the FB line (Bish appears to have lost all powers of rebound) and Chad was being played on ball. Now it looks like it will happen again.

As Bresh said, a backline of Wakes, Chad and Chappy would be backable against any forward line.

[Porthos]

(Bish appears to have lost all powers of rebound)The amazing part is that he's even a pathetic loose man these days. How is that even possible?

As Bresh said, a backline of Wakes, Chad and Chappy would be backable against any forward line.Bresh speaks tr...oh, :D:D:D:D it. I don't need to keep typing this.

[Jesse]

I think you might be getting ahead of yourself hear Lower will play BUT he has only played 1 senoir SANFL game this year (a good one at that )
I would feel Thomas is ahead at this stage hes had 5 out of 6 in the best for Norwood .

I was just refering to an article in The Advertiser which stated that:
"Williams hinted 2005 top draft pick Nick Lower from Norwood was in line for his first AFL game."

I felt this statement was one of the few positives to come out of the loss to the Bulldogs and I looked forward to seeing a youngster debut, especially in his first year on an AFL list which would have gone against our usual trend of only playing first year players in the SANFL. Look what happened with Pearce when we played him even though he had only dominated in a handful of games for Sturt.

If Ezard makes his debut I will be content though.

[deeps]

Just by the by, I would've taken a couple more out. Definitely would've found a spot for Willits.


That would have been foolish. The team is obviously having trouble 'gelling' together, not knowing their roles etc etc. Bringing in a whole heap of youngsters who have played a handful of AFL games,(heck, even a handful of SANFL games), isn't going to help.

The amount of changes is about right imo, though i would have preffered to see bishop go.

[deeps]

Exactly. I'd back Wakelin, Chad and Chaplin against any forward 3. Cornesy could be the 3rd tall anyway and still be allowed to run off - so it wouldn't be the end of the world.

exactly,the guy won AA selection, almost won a brownlow, and we won a premiership, all with him at CHB.

Why on earth he got moved i don't know. I guess Choco knows we're not a premiership chance at this point in time, so might as well get Chaplin groomed as a key defender. But then he went and dropped chaplin (not saying he didnt deserve it)

[Ford Fairlane]

That would have been foolish. The team is obviously having trouble 'gelling' together, not knowing their roles etc etc. Bringing in a whole heap of youngsters who have played a handful of AFL games,(heck, even a handful of SANFL games), isn't going to help.

The amount of changes is about right imo, though i would have preffered to see bishop go.

You say it would be foolish, then you nominate another one to go. Non sequitur?

Did you watch the game last week? Gelling wasn't the problem, an almost total lack of attack on the ball and opposition was a problem. Repeatedly kicking into pockets was a problem. Senior players unable to hit each other on the chest from 25m away was a problem. Players obviously not following coach's instructions thus causing him to come out and rant and rave like a madman at quarter time was a problem.

Willits will give you attack on the ball and body, Lonie won't. But as I said, if the attitude throughout the bulk of the team doesn't change this week, another one or two additions to the changes already made won't make much difference.

[deeps]

You say it would be foolish, then you nominate another one to go. Non sequitur?

I would have kept grew.


Did you watch the game last week? Gelling wasn't the problem, an almost total lack of attack on the ball and opposition was a problem. Repeatedly kicking into pockets was a problem. Senior players unable to hit each other on the chest from 25m away was a problem. Players obviously not following coach's instructions thus causing him to come out and rant and rave like a madman at quarter time was a problem.

Willits will give you attack on the ball and body, Lonie won't. But as I said, if the attitude throughout the bulk of the team doesn't change this week, another one or two additions to the changes already made won't make much difference.

Yeh i watched the game. We can't hit targets, we won't go in for the hard ball... But when they had the ball, nobody knew what to do, and seemed to be like 'who's man is that?' 'why isn't someone covering him'

[Ford Fairlane]

I would have kept grew.

I would've done the same. But I still would've got Willits in. And Lonie would never be picked by me.



Yeh i watched the game. We can't hit targets, we won't go in for the hard ball... But when they had the ball, nobody knew what to do, and seemed to be like 'who's man is that?' 'why isn't someone covering him'

Lack of accountability, laziness, no responsibility, baffled by the coach's instructions could all cover those problems. Letting your opponent run off you like an unregistered dog (pardon the pun) is not a gelling problem.

[*PAFC*13]

exactly,the guy won AA selection, almost won a brownlow, and we won a premiership, all with him at CHB.

Why on earth he got moved i don't know. I guess Choco knows we're not a premiership chance at this point in time, so might as well get Chaplin groomed as a key defender. But then he went and dropped chaplin (not saying he didnt deserve it)

I think the reason we moved him was because opposition clubs kinda started to figure him out. In the opening three rounds of 2005 he made little impact. When he came back from injury he played a little bit at CHB then was moved into the midfield where his aggresion was much needed. I like him in the midfield, yet, I like him in the forward, HELL, I like him in the backline aswell :D . I think we should keep him in the midfield because he knows how to get into peoples faces and win clearences.

But anywhere is fine by my aslong as he if performing :thumbsu:

[domc]

I think the reason we moved him was because opposition clubs kinda started to figure him out. In the opening three rounds of 2005 he made little impact. When he came back from injury he played a little bit at CHB then was moved into the midfield where his aggresion was much needed. I like him in the midfield, yet, I like him in the forward, HELL, I like him in the backline aswell :D . I think we should keep him in the midfield because he knows how to get into peoples faces and win clearences.

But anywhere is fine by my aslong as he if performing :thumbsu:

if we had someone else to do that job (ie Josh Carr), then we could leave him at CHB no probs. I still prefer him at CHB with the young midfielders left in there to develop.

[Andre]

if we had someone else to do that job (ie Josh Carr), then we could leave him at CHB no probs. I still prefer him at CHB with the young midfielders left in there to develop.
I think Choco's reasoning (in this case correct IMO) is that every side has 3 tall defenders of various worth, but across EVERY club, the players that are of Chad's height and marking ability that can play midfield are all of Chad, Pavlich and (in his prime) Koutafides. The KPP midfielder is just about the rarest player type out there.

The question of course is, can we get decent enough defenders to allow it to go on? If Bishop was still good, or any one of Willits, Carlile, Thurstans, Pettigrew could hold down a key back spot it'd look a lot better.

The KPP midfielder is like the icing on the cake. Unfortunately, much as I enjoy seeing Chad in the midfield, what's under the icing is increasingly crap and he may have to go down back again :( If he does, it should only be till our defense has two reliable KPP's (though 3 is preferable) beside him.

[PJ Power]

I think Choco's reasoning (in this case correct IMO) is that every side has 3 tall defenders of various worth, but across EVERY club, the players that are of Chad's height and marking ability that can play midfield are all of Chad, Pavlich and (in his prime) Koutafides. The KPP midfielder is just about the rarest player type out there.

The question of course is, can we get decent enough defenders to allow it to go on? If Bishop was still good, or any one of Willits, Carlile, Thurstans, Pettigrew could hold down a key back spot it'd look a lot better.

The KPP midfielder is like the icing on the cake. Unfortunately, much as I enjoy seeing Chad in the midfield, what's under the icing is increasingly crap and he may have to go down back again :( If he does, it should only be till our defense has two reliable KPP's (though 3 is preferable) beside him.

Well articulated Andre - spot on. Playing Chad in the middle is more of a luxury than a necessity IMO. In contrast playing Shaun Burgoyne there has become a necessity.

I would let Chaplin learn his trade alongside of Wakelin on the last line. Toss Bishop out, and use Chad at CHB.
Even when Wakelin retires, we should look at having a defence that includes Chad.


I'd like us to focus on getting the midfield made up of longterm options (ie the young kids). Shaun Burgoyne is a longterm option there as well, especially as Symes, Lower and Thomas would seem to fit together well in our defence.

[Toots Hibbert]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Should have been a few more outs IMO
Ah I dunno. Two outs and 5 ins. So we'll be playing 25 against 22. That's gotta be good doesn't it? :thumbsu:

[*PAF]

Well articulated Andre - spot on. Playing Chad in the middle is more of a luxury than a necessity IMO. ...
Exactly.
The tall three down back aren't stuffed with Wakelin, Chad and Chappy, so why :D:D:D:D with it.

[Ford Fairlane]

Symes, Ebert, Ezard, Deluca in
Dew, Motlop, Cassisi, Pettigrew out.

[nivek48]

The final 22 to take on Brisbane on Sunday is as follows…

B: Shaun Burgoyne, Matthew Bishop, Michael Wilson
HB: Adam Kingsley, Darryl Wakelin, Brad Symes
C: Danyle Pearce, Kane Cornes, Peter Walsh
HF: Steven Salopek, Warren Tredrea, Jacob Surjan
F: Josh Mahoney, Damon White, Toby Thurstans
R: Brendon Lade, Chad Cornes, Peter Burgoyne
Int: Fabian Deluca, Brett Ebert, James Ezard, Nathan Lonie

Emergencies: Troy Chaplin, Michael Pettigrew, Adam Thomson

IN: DeLuca, Ebert, Ezard, Symes
OUT: Cassisi (knee), Dew, Motlop, Pettigrew (omitted)

from http://portadelaidefc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=267074

[Paralowiepower]

I can't believe Pettigrew and Chaplin could not make the side. :confused:

[pafc4life]

I can't believe Pettigrew and Chaplin could not make the side. :confused:

Ebert :mad: what a :D:D:D:Din joke

[nivek48]

I can't believe Pettigrew and Chaplin could not make the side. :confused:

We appear short one tall defender (eg Chappy) that would release JB to the midfield but maybe we don't need the extra tall defender against the Lions? Surprised Brett got back so quick and am disappointed Thomo is not back in but glad Symes is back :thumbsu:

[Paralowiepower]

Ebert :mad: what a :D:D:D:Din joke
Exactly, he hardly set the world on fire in the SANFL last week.

[Paralowiepower]

We appear short one tall defender (eg Chappy) that would release JB to the midfield but maybe we don't need the extra tall defender against the Lions? I am disappointed Thomo is not back in but glad Symes is back :thumbsu:
Chappy has to play, to free up Chad to play in the middle.
Has Choco forgotten about one Johnathan Brown?

[Porthos]

I'm kind of glad Chaplin isn't in this week now.

Hopefully now that Choco can't possibly drop any more junior tall backmen (by virtue of us having none left) he will see where the real problem is.

[eddie_vrv6]

The final 22 to take on Brisbane on Sunday is as follows…

B: Shaun Burgoyne, Matthew Bishop, Michael Wilson
HB: Adam Kingsley, Darryl Wakelin, Brad Symes
C: Danyle Pearce, Kane Cornes, Peter Walsh
HF: Steven Salopek, Warren Tredrea, Jacob Surjan
F: Josh Mahoney, Damon White, Toby Thurstans
R: Brendon Lade, Chad Cornes, Peter Burgoyne
Int: Fabian Deluca, Brett Ebert, James Ezard, Nathan Lonie

Emergencies: Troy Chaplin, Michael Pettigrew, Adam Thomson

IN: DeLuca, Ebert, Ezard, Symes
OUT: Cassisi (knee), Dew, Motlop, Pettigrew (omitted)

from http://portadelaidefc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=267074


Onviously Choco is worried about burn-out for Lade, or doesn't rate Thurstans as a back-up ruck.
Great to see Symes back into the side, straight onto the field.
Thought Chaplin would be back in, but can see him coming in very soon, hopefully for Bishop.

[portentous]

How empathetic of you, that you wouldn't want Brown's confidence shattered for the rest of the year after a match-up with the Collossus.
Bresh speaks the truth.

[*PAF]

I'm kind of glad Chaplin isn't in this week now.

Hopefully now that Choco can't possibly drop any more junior tall backmen (by virtue of us having none left) he will see where the real problem is.
That would only work if we lose by an embarassing margin.
We are playing the Brisbane Bears this week end and not the Lions, so it will probably end up giving Choco the ammo he is looking for so that he can keep Bishop in and Chaplin and Peettigrew both out not only for the rest of this year, but the next one as well. :thumbsd:

[*PAF]

... Thought Chaplin would be back in, but can see him coming in very soon, hopefully for Bishop.
I'd ask for a refund for that crystal ball you have if I were you. :D

[MrMeaner]

On our recent performances, I'm glad I'm in Cambodia at the moment.

Perhaps our club is at Year Zero*



*Apologies to anyone who is Cambodian or lost anyone to the Khmer Rouge.

[Toots Hibbert]

Ebert :mad: what a :D:D:D:Din joke
Shouldn't have been dropped in the first place but left to continue his development as a midfielder at AFL level.

[eddie_vrv6]

I'd ask for a refund for that crystal ball you have if I were you. :D


Yeah, I also had a tenner on Hawks by less than 40 tonight - I think she's busted!

[portentous]

D Motlop kicked 4.1 for North last night. Anyone see the game?

[doiler]

D Motlop kicked 4.1 for North last night. Anyone see the game?

Motlop played the first half on the wing where he was beaten by Gallagher before Jars moved him 1 out in the goalsquare firstly on Lower then on Jackman. Motty kicked 3 in 5 minutes on Lower including a questionable screamer and a good pick up off a dewy ground before evading 2 tacklers and slotting it through with the outside of his boot.

He showed how much talent he has and he put his body on the line and took some hard hits but he definately looked more comfortable in the forward lines.

If the SANFL teams didn't the the state game bye next week I'm not convinced Motlop would have been recalled, but I would think that he is a likely chance to return straight away.

For Norwood Lower had an indifferent night and was moved off Motlop after his 3 goal burst, he looked solid but unspectular as a small defender but he did towel up Cupido last week and looked a much better player then.

I don't think Thomas played as I didn't notice him once so I'm not sure of the story there.

One player that either Adelaide AFL team should look at is Bryce Campbell from Norwood. He was clearly the best on ground with his hard running skilled possession game and he tackles very well also. I think he's only 21 so there should be plenty of room for improvement.

[Toots Hibbert]

Motlop played the first half on the wing where he was beaten by Gallagher before Jars moved him 1 out in the goalsquare firstly on Lower then on Jackman. Motty kicked 3 in 5 minutes on Lower including a questionable screamer and a good pick up off a dewy ground before evading 2 tacklers and slotting it through with the outside of his boot.

He showed how much talent he has and he put his body on the line and took some hard hits but he definately looked more comfortable in the forward lines.....
Motlop should be fined a percentage of his match fee every time he kicks with the outside of his boot. Learn to kick with your non dominant leg or learn to stop lairising whichever is the problem.

[PJ Power]

Motlop should be fined a percentage of his match fee every time he kicks with the outside of his boot. Learn to kick with your non dominant leg or learn to stop lairising whichever is the problem.

That was my instinctive response to Doiler's description as well. Not sure we want Motlop kicking the spectacular, checkside goals on the run, do we?

[doiler]

My point was that he has showed that he has the talent, but for whatever reason he hasn't produced for Port this year. I think getting a kick up the arse by being dropped to the SANFL might help turn his season around.

[Porthos]

That would only work if we lose by an embarassing margin.Yes, well.

Was happy to hear Choco mention that now is the time to look at who will be around for the next premiership, and that just because you've played in a premiership it doesn't mean you're a superstar.

[*PAF]

Yes, well.

Was happy to hear Choco mention that now is the time to look at who will be around for the next premiership, and that just because you've played in a premiership it doesn't mean you're a superstar.
What else did he say?
I haven't heard the press coference.

[Porthos]

Meh, the rest that I heard was usual post-loss crap. I went and had a leak.

[Ford Fairlane]

Was happy to hear Choco mention that now is the time to look at who will be around for the next premiership ...

Is Choco sure those players have been born yet? I thought he might just have extended his 7 year prediction by .. oh I don't know ... a couple of decades. With him in charge of course.

[Ford Fairlane]

I heard Tredders post match and he talked as if we'd just lost by 3-4 goals to a top 4 team. Not smashed at home by the 14th placed team.

In Leigh's press conference he spoke of being happy to win, no matter what the opposition was like. Ouch.