View Full Version : The Making of Ryan Murphy
docker_johnno
18 May 2006, 19:53
Mark my words on this one. This is going to be his week. He will get a big job either at FF or on Thompson/Rocca/Petrie/Brown in the back line.
On Saturday night we will know a lot more about Ryan Murphy.
wehavethepassion
18 May 2006, 23:04
Mark my words on this one. This is going to be his week. He will get a big job either at FF or on Thompson/Rocca/Petrie/Brown in the back line.
On Saturday night we will know a lot more about Ryan Murphy.
DJ for Tatter to make his mark on a game Connolly would need to keep on the ground longer than 5 mins per Q. Connolly has screwed this young player lock, stock and two smoking barrels. If he(Tatter) is given the same game time as that non productive forward in medders He would be a 40+ goal forward.
DJ for Tatter to make his mark on a game Connolly would need to keep on the ground longer than 5 mins per Q. Connolly has screwed this young player lock, stock and two smoking barrels. If he(Tatter) is given the same game time as that non productive forward in medders He would be a 40+ goal forward.
What a load of carp.
You have been listening to 6PR too much.
Potato will come good but he has not as yet seized his chances like Magic, Duffman & Mundy have.
The ball is in his court.
docker_johnno
19 May 2006, 01:17
What a load of carp.
You have been listening to 6PR too much.
Potato will come good but he has not as yet seized his chances like Magic, Duffman & Mundy have.
The ball is in his court.
Great comments and this is the week for Ryan Murphy to stand up.
kanabar
19 May 2006, 09:30
Great comments and this is the week for Ryan Murphy to stand up.
i truly hope so coz i reckon he can be great if we deliver quickly to him o nthe lead and hoping he is hugry as a bull for the ball.
A hard leading forward, now theres an idea!!!! I'll be spewing if he's played down back
kanabar
19 May 2006, 12:01
A hard leading forward, now theres an idea!!!! I'll be spewing if he's played down back
hes being wasted down back....pitty he seems lost there....
CC should give him an ultimatum that this is his do or die match.....
Problem is he is a leading forward, & our Midfield just doesn't work well with leading forwards. In fact I don't think freo has ever worked well with leading forwards like "Spud". That is why medders hasn't been able to be as effective as he could be, as he is a small leading forward, but has greater skills than Spud & has such found a niche in the team.
Problem is he is a leading forward, & our Midfield just doesn't work well with leading forwards. In fact I don't think freo has ever worked well with leading forwards like "Spud". That is why medders hasn't been able to be as effective as he could be, as he is a small leading forward, but has greater skills than Spud & has such found a niche in the team.
Medders started off as a good one on one mark but started to get pinged by umpires for placing hands in the back of his opponents and started to give away more frees than he was winning. He started leading and he seems to take at least 6 marks a game, someone statistically orientated cna correct me if Im wrong. This would suggest that hes getting a fair portion of the ball going into 50. So our midfielders can hit a target it if it's presented, same can be said for Pav. What would be the case with two leading forwards, leading to seperate areas of the attacking 50 (ie. Spud)? It would break up the defenders and go along way to beating the flood, it would also allow more room for midfielders and crumbers to work into. I'm sure many of you think Im wrong but Ive always thought you cannot beat hard leading forwards, it's super efficient!
Problem is he is a leading forward, & our Midfield just doesn't work well with leading forwards. In fact I don't think freo has ever worked well with leading forwards like "Spud". That is why medders hasn't been able to be as effective as he could be, as he is a small leading forward, but has greater skills than Spud & has such found a niche in the team.
It should work well.
Pav creates massive holes behind him.
I would play him out of the square - esp if Elvis is not in the team.
The m/f just need top get use to putting it out in front - no reason why Spud would not be good for 2 goals this weekend.
Maybe 6PR are pushing it but I think he should be left on for 2 full quarters without rotation or resting.
wehavethepassion
19 May 2006, 16:16
What a load of carp.
You have been listening to 6PR too much.
Potato will come good but he has not as yet seized his chances like Magic, Duffman & Mundy have.
The ball is in his court.
Ripper too much of the red dust has clouded your judgement. If Ryan Murphy was given the same armchair ride that medders has received in 2004 & 2005 (ie 44 games)he'll be an entrenched player in the 22.
Kenny_01
19 May 2006, 16:29
Medhurst is regularly unfairly criticized. He hasn't recieved an armchair ride, he deserves his spot on the side (which is one of the most difficult to play) because he is one of our best avenues to goal, whether it be scoring or assisting.
Yes, he sometimes does some stupid things and occasionally he looks lazy or frustrated but an opposition coach would be counting his lucky stars if Medhurst wasn't playing. Put him in the Eagles side and he would look a million dollars.
Ripper too much of the red dust has clouded your judgement. If Ryan Murphy was given the same armchair ride that medders has received in 2004 & 2005 (ie 44 games)he'll be an entrenched player in the 22.
One is a small forward , one of the leading goalkickers at the club and a proven gamebreaker (admittedly not often enough) and always gets a quality opponent.
The other is a tall forward, has had numerous chances and grabbed none of them as yet although I am confident he will.
Poor comparison.
I see that you have stopped pushing Happy forward as "hard done by".
Have you ever wondered why George and Brad always target our leading goalkickers or our most dangerous players?
Croad , Farmer, Headland & Medhurst have always been their favourite whipping boys , I noticed the other night that Schammer is in their sights now he is starting to step up.
All are >>>>>>>> Sampi. How much does he cop from the same people in comparison to our boys?
Seriously ,Don't take them seriously.
wehavethepassion
19 May 2006, 20:29
One is a small forward , one of the leading goalkickers at the club and a proven gamebreaker (admittedly not often enough) and always gets a quality opponent.
The other is a tall forward, has had numerous chances and grabbed none of them as yet although I am confident he will.
Poor comparison.
I see that you have stopped pushing Happy forward as "hard done by".
Have you ever wondered why George and Brad always target our leading goalkickers or our most dangerous players?
Croad , Farmer, Headland & Medhurst have always been their favourite whipping boys , I noticed the other night that Schammer is in their sights now he is starting to step up.
All are >>>>>>>> Sampi. How much does he cop from the same people in comparison to our boys?
Seriously ,Don't take them seriously.
Ripper I'm pleading ignorance re Peeerah and what Hardie or GG are saying or not saying about murphy. I'm stating my opinion. I still think Connolly has not given Tatter enough time for a reasonable judgement to be made
docker_johnno
19 May 2006, 20:43
Only 20 hours now untill Ryan Murphy arrives.
Undertaker
20 May 2006, 12:30
A hard leading forward, now theres an idea!!!! I'll be spewing if he's played down back
Ditto
synista
21 May 2006, 02:06
How did he go today guys?
I missed the game.
dominguez
21 May 2006, 03:00
Murphy played most of the game for a return of 9 possessions, 5 marks and 3 goals. He is a superb kick for goal, glad to see Connolly play him forward. Hopefully it will be a confidence boosting performance because it looks like McPharlap will miss atleast 1 game with an ankle injury.
docker_johnno
21 May 2006, 03:07
He didn't quite arrive as predicted but he is a lot closer to arriving now. If arrival is London he has just left Bangkok.
Freo Shark
21 May 2006, 12:03
Murph played quite well, certainly deserves more games and time on the ground.
He seems to have a very natural kick which provides good returns, this is exactly what we need - good conversions, we miss too many. His Holiness can probably provide the stats there.
Luke I'm not convinced is a forward, he hasnt a natural kick and his kicks are always 50/50 propositions. Luke maybe better suited down back pairing up with M "Magic" Johnson and Mundy.
ImperialPurple
21 May 2006, 14:12
Murph played quite well, certainly deserves more games and time on the ground.
He seems to have a very natural kick which provides good returns, this is exactly what we need - good conversions, we miss too many. His Holiness can probably provide the stats there.
Luke I'm not convinced is a forward, he hasnt a natural kick and his kicks are always 50/50 propositions. Luke maybe better suited down back pairing up with M "Magic" Johnson and Mundy.
Didn't Luke kick something like 32.14 from 14 games at FF last year. His kicking action might be "unconventional" but he's a way better than 50/50 proposition when taking a shot.
That said, he is by far our most "natural" and talented CHB. With him, Johnno and Mundy (stars in the making) and Mr Reliables Grover and Thornton, staking out the back half I reckon we're looking good back there.
Murphy showed yesterday that he's a natural forward. I hope CC forgets this idea of turning him into a CHB, and with the emergence of Johnno down back - from a raw rookie fringe player to a bloody good player this year - they can look to letting Murph do what comes naturally. Strong leads in the forward 50, take marks, kick goals. He may have only had 9 possessions, but 5 marks and 3 goals will do wonders for his confidence. Pav, Murph, Polly, JLo, Jeffrey, DJ, Hase occasionally, Medders - that's a fair group opf forwards there also.
The injury to McPharlin is his chance to sieze his opportunity. Hopefully Luke isn't out for too long, but time for Murph to stand up and be counted! :thumbsu:
Freo Shark
21 May 2006, 14:24
Didn't Luke kick something like 32.14 from 14 games at FF last year. His kicking action might be "unconventional" but he's a way better than 50/50 proposition when taking a shot.
I dont know what his stats were. But you couldnt say you were ever confident with his kicking. He wasnt one you'd hope to have kicking the derby win goal - not that that was an easy shot by Hase. He can easily miss the "money shots" and nail the difficult one.
ThePope
21 May 2006, 15:09
I dont know what his stats were.
But the stats say that he is the one of the most accurate kicks for goal at the club, and even in the league. Yes, he might take more shots from 20m, than 50m. Yes he might lead straight, not to the pockets. Yes he may have missed a couple of sitters. But only Stephen Milne was better last year (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4634844#post4634844).
He's kicked 12.5 this year, not as good. Since he was moved forward vs Melb last year, he's been kept goalless only 4 times (twice vs Adelaide (AA FB Rutten?), last week and this week). He's kicked 4 goals and 5 goals 3 times.
With 3.0 yesterday, Murph's moved to 12.3 in his career. very good accuracy too.
Talented Player
21 May 2006, 21:13
IMO:- Fremanlte Supporter have a bit of faith in Ryan Murphy. With a bit more ground time and more games he will only get better you wait and see. I really like this guy in the way he plays.
kanabar
22 May 2006, 09:53
he seemed like he wanted to play up forward but only one aspect of his game he needs to improve on is his toughness on the body of opposition defenders.....might need to become more aggressive.
His first goal at the city end was a bloody fantastic kick, I would say there would have been only one other player in our team who could have kicked that. Im hoping the Spud gets a run straight out of the goal square this week. He would be running quick with big Mal trying to close him down. A good game for him I thought.
As for one on one marking, you don't see Mark Williams take too many one on ones, they're mostly on the lead and he makes the most of his oppurtunities. A true FF!:thumbsu:
pav_is_god
22 May 2006, 23:25
I'm a fan of Spud and I've been disappointed in Connolly for not giving him enough game time. In the past when selected, he would have been lucky to play a full quarter. With McPharlin out for 1-2 weeks, it now bodes well for Murphy. Who knows, if he keeps coming on we may be able to afford to send McPharlin back to CHB...