Central Highlands

[playsnogood]

Can anyone from Beaufort inform me how or why Peter Doherty has applied for a clearance to you guys?Is he shifting with work or just going to travel from Albury and play the odd game?

I am not from Beaufort, but it would be fairly easy to work out the how, he would fill out and sign a clearance form. I don't think you need to be from Beaufort to work that out. I used to know Doc, i would think if he did play it would only be to help out as he retired a few years ago. If he is fit and firing though, you could pencil in a forth league medal. would be a good battle for old times sake if him and chief lined up on each other.

[Snippers]

I am not from Beaufort, but it would be fairly easy to work out the how, he would fill out and sign a clearance form. I don't think you need to be from Beaufort to work that out. I used to know Doc, i would think if he did play it would only be to help out as he retired a few years ago. If he is fit and firing though, you could pencil in a forth league medal. would be a good battle for old times sake if him and chief lined up on each other.

I think you'll find that Doc played with lavington last season.

[osama83]

I think you'll find that Doc played with lavington last season.


i heard that matt "minnow" heinze was up to his best during the week.... i mean poaching big red heads to learmonth in search of a finals birth. the bloke he recruited is clint ward. strong fiery full forward from st. arnaud. will dominate that league. book him in for 60+ goals. could also dominate the local pub to. "minnow" might have pulled of the biggest recruit this league has seen..

[switch the play]

I am not from Beaufort, but it would be fairly easy to work out the how, he would fill out and sign a clearance form. I don't think you need to be from Beaufort to work that out. I used to know Doc, i would think if he did play it would only be to help out as he retired a few years ago. If he is fit and firing though, you could pencil in a forth league medal. would be a good battle for old times sake if him and chief lined up on each other.
It was an innocent question Smartarse-if you are going to be the clown-as stated get your facts right as he did play at Lavington last year.Again how would he be lured there?If someone had some decent info it would be appreciated.

[Trooper4]

Looks like Bungaree and a few other teams have been really busy getting late clearances in before round 1. A big one i noticed was Sam Buchanan from Old Peninsula Boys in Melbourne. the youngster was a Dandenong stingray for a couple of years, before moving onto to just senior footy. Should be very hand for bungaree this year, thats if his clearance goes through before round 1.

Any word on Dave McGill from Springbank? can anyone shed some light on how him and the team are going at Wallace...

[merrigan]

Nice work tud34 :thumbsu:

Yeah well done.

Any idea who the author is? Its a great article, pity he didn't chuck in some possible solutions to what he wrote about. Sounds like he actually knows something about footy, hopefully the editor or whoever does the hiring and firing at the Courier reads it and offers him a job. Nothing against the young fella they have writing on the CHFL at the moment, its just that he writes crap and knows nothing about footy. Apart from that he is good.

[redrocket]

Looks like Bungaree and a few other teams have been really busy getting late clearances in before round 1. A big one i noticed was Sam Buchanan from Old Peninsula Boys in Melbourne. the youngster was a Dandenong stingray for a couple of years, before moving onto to just senior footy. Should be very hand for bungaree this year, thats if his clearance goes through before round 1.

Any word on Dave McGill from Springbank? can anyone shed some light on how him and the team are going at Wallace...

Dave Mcgill is going very well. Only young but the kid can play. Was very impressive in both practice matches as were most of the new boys. Things are going better than people would have expected looking back to before xmas. Numbers are good and the morale around the club is better than it has been for a few years.

[orange5]

My Tips

Springbank vs Buninyong
Hepburn vs Gordan
Ballan vs Creswick
Newlyn vs Beaufort
Daylesford vs Clunes
Learmonth vs Waubra
Dunnstown vs Bungaree

Springbank vs Buninyoung
Hepburn vsGordan
Ballan vs Creswick
Newlyn vs Beaufort
Daylesford vs Clunes
Learmonth vs Waubra
Dunnstown vs Bungaree

[dools81]

Looks like Bungaree and a few other teams have been really busy getting late clearances in before round 1. A big one i noticed was Sam Buchanan from Old Peninsula Boys in Melbourne. the youngster was a Dandenong stingray for a couple of years, before moving onto to just senior footy. Should be very hand for bungaree this year, thats if his clearance goes through before round 1.

Any word on Dave McGill from Springbank? can anyone shed some light on how him and the team are going at Wallace...

I wasn't aware that Sam was a former Stingray, what position did he used to play?
A couple of other boys have signed on with him too, they look very impressive also, things are looking up for the lads at Bungaree.

[Trooper4]

I wasn't aware that Sam was a former Stingray, what position did he used to play?
A couple of other boys have signed on with him too, they look very impressive also, things are looking up for the lads at Bungaree.

Yeah, from memory he was only a member of the squad, and possibly got 1 or 2 games in. Would probably play around half back. depends how big the bungaree side is though... the kids does have some good skills. It also depends on whether his old team clear him in time for round 1. Who are the other guys? will Bungaree be able to recover from the players they lost last year?

[tk82]

i heard that matt "minnow" heinze was up to his best during the week.... i mean poaching big red heads to learmonth in search of a finals birth. the bloke he recruited is clint ward. strong fiery full forward from st. arnaud. will dominate that league. book him in for 60+ goals. could also dominate the local pub to. "minnow" might have pulled of the biggest recruit this league has seen..

Settle down osama. Ward wont even play seniors. Might kick 50 if he plays every game in the two's. I'm tipping he'll get at least 3 yellow cards for the year.

[DfordDog]

Yeah well done.

Any idea who the author is? Its a great article, pity he didn't chuck in some possible solutions to what he wrote about. Sounds like he actually knows something about footy, hopefully the editor or whoever does the hiring and firing at the Courier reads it and offers him a job. Nothing against the young fella they have writing on the CHFL at the moment, its just that he writes crap and knows nothing about footy. Apart from that he is good.

Merrigan, the author is Vin Tage. I agree, seems like would be very good reporting on the games each week. :thumbsu:

[PIES08CROWS]

I am from Beaufort. Peter Doherty is returning to his former club out of loyalty to our club and his friends to play a few games this season. He did play last season. A great player and we look forward to seeing him in the Crow's Colours this year.

[DfordDog]

Merrigan, the author is Vin Tage. I agree, seems like would be very good reporting on the games each week. :thumbsu:

Just realised, funny name. Vin Tage... Vintage.... maybe its an alias :confused:

[dools81]

Yeah, from memory he was only a member of the squad, and possibly got 1 or 2 games in. Would probably play around half back. depends how big the bungaree side is though... the kids does have some good skills. It also depends on whether his old team clear him in time for round 1. Who are the other guys? will Bungaree be able to recover from the players they lost last year?

Nick Abbot and Dave McLaughlin are the other 2 lads that came to the club with Sam, both look to be good players, Nick especially.

Ben Leske and Jake Avery are 2 other impressive recruits that will fill in some of Bungarees key position holes.

Tim Glasson and Scott Quinney are out from Redan and look as if they will be more then handy, although I hear Scott injured a knee on the weekend.

They have lost a fair chuck of their 2007 side, so it will be interesting to see how these new guys fit in down at the club.

[Sayitaintso]

Nice work tud34 :thumbsu:
Hey Tud heard you guys beat Creswick by 10 plus goals on Sat.Did they have alot out or have you improved a bit?

[tud34]

Hey Tud heard you guys beat Creswick by 10 plus goals on Sat.Did they have alot out or have you improved a bit?

I believe they may have had a coulple out, but at the same time so did we. We all know that practice matches dont mean much but at the same time there was some positive signs and we are confident of improvement.

Cant see us taking out a flag just yet though.......

[dr evil]

My Tips

Springbank vs Buninyong
Hepburn vs Gordan
Ballan vs Creswick
Newlyn vs Beaufort
Daylesford vs Clunes
Learmonth vs Waubra
Dunnstown vs Bungaree

springbank vs BUNINYONG tranquilli to kick abag
HEPBURN VS gordan unfortunatlly a big margin
BALLAN VS creswick because its at ballan and creswick are always going to improve
BEAUFORT VS newlyn the crows have some handy recruits the bones and north guys
DAYLESFORD VS clunes clunes to battle all year
learmonth vs WAUBRA game of the round waubra in a close one
DUNNSTOWN VS bungaree big turn over of players at bungaree will nead time to jell

[davvo12]

i heard that matt "minnow" heinze was up to his best during the week.... i mean poaching big red heads to learmonth in search of a finals birth. the bloke he recruited is clint ward. strong fiery full forward from st. arnaud. will dominate that league. book him in for 60+ goals. could also dominate the local pub to. "minnow" might have pulled of the biggest recruit this league has seen..


Learmonth its about time they did something instead of talking yourselves up every year and come finals time one blink and there nowhere to be seen. I think the acid test this year is on LEARMONTH, A.Beacham is spending big money and the club could go dry as well as the lake, if there is no silver ware at the end of the tunnel:D So thats why i have choosen to follow Learmonth with 2 big eyes:eek: for the 2008 season.

[Crackerz]

Hi Trigirl. Just read the article, and it does make some very valid points i must say. I looked to see if the Moorabool News had a website with this article but couldn't find anything. If anyone does find it, post it on here as it is a very interesting read.


Prob fair to say say the author doesn't approve or like what hapeneing at some of the top end clubs around:(

[AxelFoley#5]

Merrigan, the author is Vin Tage. I agree, seems like would be very good reporting on the games each week. :thumbsu:

Mind you any of us in this forum could do a better job than Pedler....Was a good article tho:thumbsu:...hope to hear more from Vin

[learmonth]

Learmonth its about time they did something instead of talking yourselves up every year and come finals time one blink and there nowhere to be seen. I think the acid test this year is on LEARMONTH, A.Beacham is spending big money and the club could go dry as well as the lake, if there is no silver ware at the end of the tunnel:D So thats why i have choosen to follow Learmonth with 2 big eyes:eek: for the 2008 season.

Congratulations on your 1st post. Always good to have a crack, and I enjoy it, but where's your logic. 2 Years ago, we beat Bungaree when noone thought we had a chance in overtime, then lost to Hepburn by 2 points who ended up playing off in a grand final. Last year, beaten by Dunnstown by 10 points who were a better side then us on the day. Thats football you lose some, you win some. Both years we have finished 5th and 4th and thats where we were at. This year Hepburn are easily favorites for the flag followed by Dford, Waubra & Dunnstown so if we were to win a Grand Final it would be a huge upset as their are 4 better sides then us on paper! But paper means little when you get on the ground.
As for the money, we are spending stacks, we have put ourself so far in debt its not funny and within 2 years we will fold. Thats what clubs do mate, spend more than they can afford and go broke! With the bank loan to pay for our new recruits it may be 1 year as I have just noticed interest rates have gone up and out monthly repayments have gone up an extra $45 per month.

You are a very smart man, please clarify what our players are getting paid and how much we are spending and ill let you know if ya close, Im backing you wouldnt have a clue!

Now go and have a black coffee with milk......

[Crackerz]

Mind you any of us in this forum could do a better job than Pedler....Was a good article tho:thumbsu:...hope to hear more from Vin


I agree that it was a good article Axel, not sure about anyone in this forum being better than Peddler though. A fair bit of boat floating going on in here. i love it, enjoyable to read.

You keep up the good work too Learmonth, you always provide some light relief.

[davvo12]

Congratulations on your 1st post. Always good to have a crack, and I enjoy it, but where's your logic. 2 Years ago, we beat Bungaree when noone thought we had a chance in overtime, then lost to Hepburn by 2 points who ended up playing off in a grand final. Last year, beaten by Dunnstown by 10 points who were a better side then us on the day. Thats football you lose some, you win some. Both years we have finished 5th and 4th and thats where we were at. This year Hepburn are easily favorites for the flag followed by Dford, Waubra & Dunnstown so if we were to win a Grand Final it would be a huge upset as their are 4 better sides then us on paper! But paper means little when you get on the ground.
As for the money, we are spending stacks, we have put ourself so far in debt its not funny and within 2 years we will fold. Thats what clubs do mate, spend more than they can afford and go broke! With the bank loan to pay for our new recruits it may be 1 year as I have just noticed interest rates have gone up and out monthly repayments have gone up an extra $45 per month.

You are a very smart man, please clarify what our players are getting paid and how much we are spending and ill let you know if ya close, Im backing you wouldnt have a clue!

Now go and have a black coffee with milk......








Learmonth best fishing i have ever done, lured you in with no bait on. So you are telling me that Learmonth football club is not spending shitloads more this year than previous years:confused: Get your hand of it mate it wont grow anymore length:D I Know for a fact that this year you guys offered a mate of mine 400 a game, which i must admit is alot of coin for a footballer of his standard he almost signed, But luckly his team mates convinced him to stay where he is. So dont bull$hit yourself mate.

keep it real....

[F00TY2007]

Learmonth best fishing i have ever done, lured you in with no bait on. So you are telling me that Learmonth football club is not spending shitloads more this year than previous years:confused: Get your hand of it mate it wont grow anymore length:D I Know for a fact that this year you guys offered a mate of mine 400 a game, which i must admit is alot of coin for a footballer of his standard he almost signed, But luckly his team mates convinced him to stay where he is. So dont bull$hit yourself mate.

keep it real....


That mate of your would'nt be Karl Begbie would it????
If so you would be one of his only mates. If it is its probs better that he didnt sign to Learmonth and stayed where he is. I dont think Learmonth could handle that much ego. Its already filled up with two beachams....

[timmy 32]

Learmonth best fishing i have ever done, lured you in with no bait on. So you are telling me that Learmonth football club is not spending shitloads more this year than previous years:confused: Get your hand of it mate it wont grow anymore length:D I Know for a fact that this year you guys offered a mate of mine 400 a game, which i must admit is alot of coin for a footballer of his standard he almost signed, But luckly his team mates convinced him to stay where he is. So dont bull$hit yourself mate.

keep it real....
And i was under the impression that players were attracted to Learmonth because of the facilities, great oval, great people, family atmosphere, and a chance to improve their football. And they all play there just for the love of the game. Now i learn that they are offering mediocre players $400 a game to play for them. Hmm i wonder what the good ones are getting? Good article davvo12.
The Clock is Ticking AJ .... TICK TOCK TICK TOCK. Go Waubra

[dr evil]

I have obtained a copy of the article in reference:
Many thanks to the Moorabool news for allowing this article to be published online (c) Moorabool News - 5368 1966

With the CHFL football season due to kick off, local clubs are putting the finishing touches on their senior team line-ups for the 2008 seasons; the ‘meat market’ for senior footballers is about to close, and the cost per kilo for these ‘guns for hire’ will once again confirm the over capitalization of district football.
The worst kept secret in district football is the extraordinary costs of hiring over rated second and third grade footballers to fill positions in what is essentially local football.
You won’t need a team of football analysts to work out where the chips will fall in the September action, a first year accountant and a quick look at the Club’s balance sheets will give an accurate indication of where Cub’s will finish in the 2008 season.
The question is sustainability; can fourteen clubs in the district continue to absorb these costs and remain solvent?
I have no issue with footballers being paid to play football; the reality is that playing football can have a detrimental effect on a player’s ability to earn extra income on a Saturday; there are also extra medical and traveling costs that can’t be ignored.
Players seeking payment for services has been around since John the Baptist played full back for Jerusalem; so this is not a new thing to football, and whilst playing for the jumper is honorable it’s a rare commodity in the CHFL meat market
There is also the argument that people pay good money to see a show on a Saturday afternoon, and that the show is only as good as the performers.
There is no denying that District Football is in the entertainment business, and there is no denying that it charges for the entertainment it puts on.
I am not going to enter into an argument that paying eight bucks to get in the gate on a Saturday for a full days entertainment, is expensive; take the family to the MCG and throw a couple of pies at them and see what it costs! But everything is relative, even local football.
The sustainability question is at both ends of the spectrum; Club’s that are continually at the top end of the ladder work in budgets twice the cellar dwellers, and must be commended on their ability to sustain the economic pressure; but have they created their own monster?
Annihilating lower sides week after week may be good for the Clubs ‘esprit de corps’ but commercially in District football it means smaller crowds with smaller gate takings.
Even the most passionate about their local football lose interest in predictable games of football with minimal local content.
The party line for all country leagues that have abolished the salary cap, is that the club’s manipulated the system and the leagues couldn’t control the “under the counter” payments to players; could you imagine any other law being abolished because people break them, please, if you don’t mind umpire!!!!!!
You have to feel for the club’s that nurture and protect their young local talent through their junior years only to have the player drafted into an opposition team with a bigger cheque book.
Salary caps were put in place to protect the financial position of football clubs, and to promote club structures that encourage home grown talent and recruitment of players that recognize a club for its merits not its bank balance.
Whilst the out dated football club facilities fall down around the volunteers that keep these football clubs going; it’s plain to see that hard earned money is being invested into rolling stock, and not the tracks they run on.
If a clubs success is to be measured in economic terms both on the field and off the field, the ever widening gap between the fourteen rungs on the CHFL ladder may be shortened by the demise of the smaller clubs with fewer resources.
If economics need to be considered; consider the economic cost of losing an essential resource in rural communities, and the real costs involved in keeping our kids involved in sport without a local club.

good article whos the author im guessing its not that guy peddler

[dr evil]

good article whos the author im guessing its not that guy peddler
who the f**KS Vin Tage he,s on the money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Freak Dodgeball Accident]

You shouldn't be out drinking the night before a game.

[dools81]

Todays results

SENIORS

Ballan 12.14 (86) d Creswick 8.8 (56)
Buninyong 25.20 (170) d Springbank 4.5 (29)
Newlyn 14.12 (96) d Beaufort 9.12 (66)
Daylesford 12.18 (90) d Clunes 8.5 (53)
Learmonth 12.11 (83) d Waubra 11.12 (78)
Hepburn 30.23 (203) d Gordon 5.4 (34) Bungaree 15.7 (97) d Dunnstown 14.10 (94)

Games of interest
Learmonth over Waubra
Bungaree in an upset over Dunnstown
Tranquilli kicks 15 for Buninyong

[Trooper4]

Todays results

SENIORS

Ballan 12.14 (86) d Creswick 8.8 (56)
Buninyong 25.20 (170) d Springbank 4.5 (29)
Newlyn 14.12 (96) d Beaufort 9.12 (66)
Daylesford 12.18 (90) d Clunes 8.5 (53)
Learmonth 12.11 (83) d Waubra 11.12 (78)
Hepburn 30.23 (203) d Gordon 5.4 (34) Bungaree 15.7 (97) d Dunnstown 14.10 (94)

Games of interest
Learmonth over Waubra
Bungaree in an upset over Dunnstown
Tranquilli kicks 15 for Buninyong

a couple of superb games on the weekend. i know the bungaree and Dunnstown game was a great one, and word around the traps is that learmonth and waubra game was very entertaining as well. What was the standard of the other matches this weekend? and what are the tips for round 2...

[timmy 32]

a couple of superb games on the weekend. i know the bungaree and Dunnstown game was a great one, and word around the traps is that learmonth and waubra game was very entertaining as well. What was the standard of the other matches this weekend? and what are the tips for round 2...
As expected Hepburn had a comfortable victory, but Gordon are far better than what they were in 2007. They have a tough fortnight ahead, but if they can get through it and not drop their heads there could be some light at the end of the tunnell.

[DfordDog]

Todays results

SENIORS

Ballan 12.14 (86) d Creswick 8.8 (56)
Buninyong 25.20 (170) d Springbank 4.5 (29)
Newlyn 14.12 (96) d Beaufort 9.12 (66)
Daylesford 12.18 (90) d Clunes 8.5 (53)
Learmonth 12.11 (83) d Waubra 11.12 (78)
Hepburn 30.23 (203) d Gordon 5.4 (34) Bungaree 15.7 (97) d Dunnstown 14.10 (94)

Games of interest
Learmonth over Waubra
Bungaree in an upset over Dunnstown
Tranquilli kicks 15 for Buninyong


CORRECTION

Daylesford 22.19 (151) v Clunes 10.6 (66)

[tud34]

a couple of superb games on the weekend. i know the bungaree and Dunnstown game was a great one, and word around the traps is that learmonth and waubra game was very entertaining as well. What was the standard of the other matches this weekend? and what are the tips for round 2...

My best tip for round 2 and every other round of the year is Hepburn. They had 9 players that played in their senior preliminary final last year played Saturday in the Midday show. Also had 12 players not get a game in the 2nds so a lot of depth. Very difficult to beat......

[AxelFoley#5]

Based on the guys who placed tips:

Trooper, Axel 6
Orange 5
Dr Evil, Dford Dog, King Rich 4

May as well have ourselves a little tipping comp then, braggin rights to the winner!:thumbsu:

[timmy 32]

My best tip for round 2 and every other round of the year is Hepburn. They had 9 players that played in their senior preliminary final last year played Saturday in the Midday show. Also had 12 players not get a game in the 2nds so a lot of depth. Very difficult to beat......
Sorry tud34 that is a slight exageration, there were two. Matt Layfield and Clive Raak, but we did have some very handy players unavailable, so depth is very good at the moment.

[tud34]

Sorry tud34 that is a slight exageration, there were two. Matt Layfield and Clive Raak, but we did have some very handy players unavailable, so depth is very good at the moment.


Apologies mate,

I am just quoting what was said to me by the brother of one of the Hepburn 2nds player.

[orange5]

Based on the guys who placed tips:

Trooper, Axel 6
Orange 5
Dr Evil, Dford Dog, King Rich 4

May as well have ourselves a little tipping comp then, braggin rights to the winner!:thumbsu:

:thumbsu:sounds like a good idea:thumbsu:

[dr evil]

If the rumours about tranquillis pay structure at his new club are true $100x15 +200 thats a $1700 pay packet.no wonder he had a shot from the wing

[timmy 32]

CORRECTION

Daylesford 22.19 (151) v Clunes 10.6 (66)
As there were a couple of blow outs this round, what is everyones thoughts on this concept that Eddy Comelli put to the league but was rejected.
The draw is based on the previous seasons ladder placings. So the top four sides play each other twice, as do the bottom four sides from the previous year. This enables the bottom clubs a chance to kick start their season and get supporters to come and watch, more members, and maybe a recruit or two who could still be weighing up his options may jump on board if the club he is looking at starts the year well. i doubt if he would join a club after a 20 goal flogging.
It makes it a bit harder for the more powerful clubs in the league, and if a club happens to finish middle of the road, then there is a real incentive for that club to work hard over pre season, recruit well and get up near the top of the ladder. Ala Bunniyong, who would be a prime example this season and would only play the 2007 top four sides once, and the bottom 2007 sides once.
In this format round 1 would have looked like this
Dfd v Waub Hep v Dtown Lmth v Bunga Bunny v Ballan New v Clns Sprbk v Cres Beau v Gord.
Im sure this would have been a cracker of a round 1, and the ladder wouldn't even itself out until half way through the year. i think its a win win concept for all teams ... but is there a negative to this ? i cant find one, but would be interested to listen if any one has any thoughts.....

[DfordDog]

As there were a couple of blow outs this round, what is everyones thoughts on this concept that Eddy Comelli put to the league but was rejected.
The draw is based on the previous seasons ladder placings. So the top four sides play each other twice, as do the bottom four sides from the previous year. This enables the bottom clubs a chance to kick start their season and get supporters ....................
....

[DfordDog]

As there were a couple of blow outs this round, what is everyones thoughts on this concept that Eddy Comelli put to the league but was rejected.
The draw is based on the previous seasons ladder placings. So the top four sides play each other twice, as do the bottom four sides from the previous year. This enables the bottom clubs a chance to kick start their season and get supporters to come and watch, more members, and maybe a recruit or two who could still be weighing up his options may jump on board if the club he is looking at starts the year well. i doubt if he would join a club after a 20 goal flogging.
It makes it a bit harder for the more powerful clubs in the league, and if a club happens to finish middle of the road, then there is a real incentive for that club to work hard over pre season, recruit well and get up near the top of the ladder. Ala Bunniyong, who would be a prime example this season and would only play the 2007 top four sides once, and the bottom 2007 sides once.
In this format round 1 would have looked like this
Dfd v Waub Hep v Dtown Lmth v Bunga Bunny v Ballan New v Clns Sprbk v Cres Beau v Gord.
Im sure this would have been a cracker of a round 1, and the ladder wouldn't even itself out until half way through the year. i think its a win win concept for all teams ... but is there a negative to this ? i cant find one, but would be interested to listen if any one has any thoughts.....

Concept does sound good. Something does have to be done to bridge the gap between the sides. If the league can not implement a salary cap then maybe this fixture concept could be a good way to start (obviously more would need to be done). Could there be issues with the home and away games tho? It might be difficult to structure so that teams rotate where they play each other each year (obviously this has no effect for the teams you play twice in a year). Just a thought. Maybe this is the reason the league knocked it on the head. Otherwise i see the concept working well for the league. :thumbsu:

[dr evil]

Concept does sound good. Something does have to be done to bridge the gap between the sides. If the league can not implement a salary cap then maybe this fixture concept could be a good way to start (obviously more would need to be done). Could there be issues with the home and away games tho? It might be difficult to structure so that teams rotate where they play each other each year (obviously this has no effect for the teams you play twice in a year). Just a thought. Maybe this is the reason the league knocked it on the head. Otherwise i see the concept working well for the league. :thumbsu:

dont like it i think a points system that other leagues use wood be a better system its abit hard to explain but i think it wood work better its like a salary cap but easier to police because there is no cash just points.Learmonth is a fan of this concept he might be able to fill u in on the finer points i cant type 4 shit

[learmonth]

dont like it i think a points system that other leagues use wood be a better system its abit hard to explain but i think it wood work better its like a salary cap but easier to police because there is no cash just points.Learmonth is a fan of this concept he might be able to fill u in on the finer points i cant type 4 shit


The points system is the only concept that will even up the competition and its been explained before. This other system will not work as country clubs vary from year to year and the draw operates over a three year period.

This is how it works-

5 points for an AFL player (Chris Grant) or player from within the league (CHFL- eg Salesi Uhi)) That help prevents clubs taking other players from sides within the league)
4 points- State League Player (VFL/SANFL/WAFL etc/Vic/SA Country representative etc from previous season. ie- 2007 season
3 points- Major League- These leagues have been classified and play in Worksafe cup- i.e Ballarat, Bendigo, Ovens & Murry, Geelong, Central Murry etc- Nick Willox Learmonth, Aaaron Bones Beaufort would be an example of this
2 points- Any minor league- Eg- Riddell, Maryborough Castlemaine, Lexton Plains etc- Last year Jake Pring would have come under this from Daylesford.
1 point- Junior player or player that has been at the club for 3 years.

At the end of each season a point is deducted from each player to reward loyality as an ex AFL player in 3 years time would only be worth 2 points.

This system prevents sides from going out and just buying a side recklessly and also ensures that players become more loyal. It has shown in other leagues that recruits stay longer.

All sides have different points and this would be evaluated from the last 3 years results with sides like hepburn, Waubra Daylesford etc having say 44 points per game while a side like gordon may start with around 50 points which enables them to try and even the playing field.

Thats roughly how it operates... HAve seen sides have to play with 1 interchange player due to not being able to fit under the points system. It can be policed easily as all players are ranked at the start of the season and it can be notified on team sheet before game and the CHFL administrtors would just go over it. Clubs could even monitor it, if the league handed out what all players are worth.

Comments

Over and out

[jellis10]

Concept does sound good. Something does have to be done to bridge the gap between the sides. If the league can not implement a salary cap then maybe this fixture concept could be a good way to start (obviously more would need to be done). Could there be issues with the home and away games tho? It might be difficult to structure so that teams rotate where they play each other each year (obviously this has no effect for the teams you play twice in a year). Just a thought. Maybe this is the reason the league knocked it on the head. Otherwise i see the concept working well for the league. :thumbsu:




what round is chris grant playing

[Trooper4]

Tips for round 2

Creswick vs Newlyn - Newlyn should be just to good for creswick
Hepburn vs Ballan - first loss of the year for ballan
Buninyong vs Gordan - Tranquilli to dominate again
Beaufort vs Daylesford - will be a good win out a beaufort
Clunes vs Dunnstown - will be very keen to humiliate clunes after last weeks loss
Waubra vs Springbank - simply too good
Bungaree vs Learmonth - Home ground advantage. Could be anyones game.

Match of the Round
Bungaree vs Learmonth - both got very good close wins in round 1.

[DfordDog]

Creswick vs Newlyn :thumbsu:
Hepburn vs Ballan :eek:
Buninyong vs Gordan :eek:
Beaufort vs Daylesford
Clunes vs Dunnstown :thumbsu:
Waubra vs Springbank :thumbsu:
Bungaree vs Learmonth :confused:

[clifton's lookalike]

The points system is the only concept that will even up the competition and its been explained before. This other system will not work as country clubs vary from year to year and the draw operates over a three year period.

This is how it works-

5 points for an AFL player (Chris Grant) or player from within the league (CHFL- eg Salesi Uhi)) That help prevents clubs taking other players from sides within the league)
4 points- State League Player (VFL/SANFL/WAFL etc/Vic/SA Country representative etc from previous season. ie- 2007 season
3 points- Major League- These leagues have been classified and play in Worksafe cup- i.e Ballarat, Bendigo, Ovens & Murry, Geelong, Central Murry etc- Nick Willox Learmonth, Aaaron Bones Beaufort would be an example of this
2 points- Any minor league- Eg- Riddell, Maryborough Castlemaine, Lexton Plains etc- Last year Jake Pring would have come under this from Daylesford.
1 point- Junior player or player that has been at the club for 3 years.

At the end of each season a point is deducted from each player to reward loyality as an ex AFL player in 3 years time would only be worth 2 points.

This system prevents sides from going out and just buying a side recklessly and also ensures that players become more loyal. It has shown in other leagues that recruits stay longer.

All sides have different points and this would be evaluated from the last 3 years results with sides like hepburn, Waubra Daylesford etc having say 44 points per game while a side like gordon may start with around 50 points which enables them to try and even the playing field.

Thats roughly how it operates... HAve seen sides have to play with 1 interchange player due to not being able to fit under the points system. It can be policed easily as all players are ranked at the start of the season and it can be notified on team sheet before game and the CHFL administrtors would just go over it. Clubs could even monitor it, if the league handed out what all players are worth.

Comments

Over and out

Learmonth in our league CMFL a player transferring within the league is now worth 7 points, more than an AFL player to try and stop clubs poaching guns from struggling sides to the best teams as it only makes the struggling sides worse when their best 2-3 players leave.
It has been in place in our league for 2 years now and is struggling to even the competition out but it may do over time.
heard Nick Willox kicked the winning 2 goals for you blokes on the weekend?

[Old School Biff]

The points system is the only concept that will even up the competition and its been explained before. This other system will not work as country clubs vary from year to year and the draw operates over a three year period.

This is how it works-

5 points for an AFL player (Chris Grant) or player from within the league (CHFL- eg Salesi Uhi)) That help prevents clubs taking other players from sides within the league)
4 points- State League Player (VFL/SANFL/WAFL etc/Vic/SA Country representative etc from previous season. ie- 2007 season
3 points- Major League- These leagues have been classified and play in Worksafe cup- i.e Ballarat, Bendigo, Ovens & Murry, Geelong, Central Murry etc- Nick Willox Learmonth, Aaaron Bones Beaufort would be an example of this
2 points- Any minor league- Eg- Riddell, Maryborough Castlemaine, Lexton Plains etc- Last year Jake Pring would have come under this from Daylesford.
1 point- Junior player or player that has been at the club for 3 years.

At the end of each season a point is deducted from each player to reward loyality as an ex AFL player in 3 years time would only be worth 2 points.

This system prevents sides from going out and just buying a side recklessly and also ensures that players become more loyal. It has shown in other leagues that recruits stay longer.

All sides have different points and this would be evaluated from the last 3 years results with sides like hepburn, Waubra Daylesford etc having say 44 points per game while a side like gordon may start with around 50 points which enables them to try and even the playing field.

Thats roughly how it operates... HAve seen sides have to play with 1 interchange player due to not being able to fit under the points system. It can be policed easily as all players are ranked at the start of the season and it can be notified on team sheet before game and the CHFL administrtors would just go over it. Clubs could even monitor it, if the league handed out what all players are worth.

Comments

Over and out

In some ways I hate what money is doing to country footy but in other ways it can show which clubs have the strongest and hardest working committees. If you can raise it on a yearly basis, then by all means spend it.

The above system is no good in my opinion. It inhibits the league from strengthening. Fringe Major league players/ 2's players have been great recruits in minor leagues and now they would be worth 3 points. Surely it is better for the league to promote people coming into it rather than penalise a team for being proactive and recruiting.

[AxelFoley#5]

Creswick vs Newlyn
Hepburn vs Ballan
Buninyong vs Gordan
Beaufort vs Daylesford
Clunes vs Dunnstown
Waubra vs Springbank
Bungaree vs Learmonth

No real tough choices here apart from Bungaree v Learmonth, should be tight fought match this one

[AxelFoley#5]

Learmonth in our league CMFL a player transferring within the league is now worth 7 points, more than an AFL player to try and stop clubs poaching guns from struggling sides to the best teams as it only makes the struggling sides worse when their best 2-3 players leave.
It has been in place in our league for 2 years now and is struggling to even the competition out but it may do over time.
heard Nick Willox kicked the winning 2 goals for you blokes on the weekend?

What are the main issues your league faces using the points system?

IMO both approaches could work for our league but have their limitations.

The altered fixture would create more excitement for all clubs during the 1st 4 rounds especially with every club having the opportunity to get a win (or loss) on the board early on. Would clubs start tanking tho if you if they werent going to make finals to ensure a better draw for next season??

The points system would take care of the money inequalities with regards to player payments but could it be an issue in itself to get it going in the 1st place? (for example would certain clubs have to tell blokes to leave to play elsewhere because the club will be over its allocated points?)

[timmy 32]

In some ways I hate what money is doing to country footy but in other ways it can show which clubs have the strongest and hardest working committees. If you can raise it on a yearly basis, then by all means spend it.

The above system is no good in my opinion. It inhibits the league from strengthening. Fringe Major league players/ 2's players have been great recruits in minor leagues and now they would be worth 3 points. Surely it is better for the league to promote people coming into it rather than penalise a team for being proactive and recruiting.
Totally agree. Not sure what the point limit is but for example Hepburn's senior side last week totals 35 under the points format. And i agree with the fringe players from the major leagues being able to drop back a league without that side being penalised.... in 2004 we had a recruit who is a great example of this, he was struggling to get a game for Darley, playing average football in the two's, not enjoying it and was contemplating giving the game away, all at the age of 20. Now he is one of the CHFL's best players all because he took a punt, gained his self belief , gained his confidence and has never looked back. His name.....Sam Newton. and last year most BFL clubs were knocking down his door to get his services. We had some star players playing in that year from major leagues, and possibly Sam may have missed out under the points system if we were going to exceed it, and with Sam losing interest, this could have been a big loss to country football. Just one example and i'm sure there are plenty more out there.
As i said i'm interested to hear thoughts on this topic to make the CHFL stronger, but i just think scrap the 3 year rotating fixture. Make the top four sides from the previous year play each other twice and the same with the bottom four sides. Learmonth i'd be interested what your side's points added up to last week for example.
Just imagine, this week round 2, everyone has come off hard games, and you have to back up again for a red hot contest, then again next week, then again the week after. Crowds flock to see great contests, and players love playing in them. Ask Gordon how they feel, improved immensley, but have Hepburn, Bunniyong and Waubra in the first three rounds. All their good work over summer could be washed down the drain. I don't know the right solution, but if we dont find one, i'd hate to see our league have clubs fold because year in year out, it finally all gets to hard to compete.

[merrigan]

Totally agree. Not sure what the point limit is but for example Hepburn's senior side last week totals 35 under the points format. And i agree with the fringe players from the major leagues being able to drop back a league without that side being penalised.... in 2004 we had a recruit who is a great example of this, he was struggling to get a game for Darley, playing average football in the two's, not enjoying it and was contemplating giving the game away, all at the age of 20. Now he is one of the CHFL's best players all because he took a punt, gained his self belief , gained his confidence and has never looked back. His name.....Sam Newton. and last year most BFL clubs were knocking down his door to get his services. We had some star players playing in that year from major leagues, and possibly Sam may have missed out under the points system if we were going to exceed it, and with Sam losing interest, this could have been a big loss to country football. Just one example and i'm sure there are plenty more out there.
As i said i'm interested to hear thoughts on this topic to make the CHFL stronger, but i just think scrap the 3 year rotating fixture. Make the top four sides from the previous year play each other twice and the same with the bottom four sides. Learmonth i'd be interested what your side's points added up to last week for example.
Just imagine, this week round 2, everyone has come off hard games, and you have to back up again for a red hot contest, then again next week, then again the week after. Crowds flock to see great contests, and players love playing in them. Ask Gordon how they feel, improved immensley, but have Hepburn, Bunniyong and Waubra in the first three rounds. All their good work over summer could be washed down the drain. I don't know the right solution, but if we dont find one, i'd hate to see our league have clubs fold because year in year out, it finally all gets to hard to compete.

Noble sentiment Timmy, but it didn't stop your club offering $1000 a game to Florance from Springbank and then Uhi from Ballan. You might be genuinely concerned but I don't think many others at Hepburn would be too worried about clubs folding as long they got to pick the guts out of the carcass.

[timmy 32]

Noble sentiment Timmy, but it didn't stop your club offering $1000 a game to Florance from Springbank and then Uhi from Ballan. You might be genuinely concerned but I don't think many others at Hepburn would be too worried about clubs folding as long they got to pick the guts out of the carcass.
so your back on that old chestnut again merrigan, let it go because you have no idea. Or ask Florence yourself, and he will tell you that Hepburn have never ever spoken to him. Ask Salesi and get the real facts... Your sources are way off the mark mate...So instead of bagging whatever comes up on this site, whats your thoughts on the proposal? or do you have something better to add and maybe even out the league.
You actually dont know Hepburn at all do you.

[F00TY2007]

so your back on that old chestnut again merrigan, let it go because you have no idea. Or ask Florence yourself, and he will tell you that Hepburn have never ever spoken to him. Ask Salesi and get the real facts... Your sources are way off the mark mate...So instead of bagging whatever comes up on this site, whats your thoughts on the proposal? or do you have something better to add and maybe even out the league.
You actually dont know Hepburn at all do you.

Timmy,
Are you certain that he is wrong about Florance???
A mate that is close to Dave told me that a week after the season Hepburn offered Florance $1200 a game with the first 5 match payments to be paid as a lump cash sum before Christmas......

[KingRich]

Creswick vs Newlyn
Hepburn vs Ballan
Buninyong vs Gordan
Beaufort vs Daylesford
Clunes vs Dunnstown
Waubra vs Springbank
Bungaree vs Learmonth

[ExtendTheDukes]

In some ways I hate what money is doing to country footy but in other ways it can show which clubs have the strongest and hardest working committees. If you can raise it on a yearly basis, then by all means spend it.

The above system is no good in my opinion. It inhibits the league from strengthening. Fringe Major league players/ 2's players have been great recruits in minor leagues and now they would be worth 3 points. Surely it is better for the league to promote people coming into it rather than penalise a team for being proactive and recruiting.

Footballers have to be renumerated for their services when they can make good money working on Saturdays instead of risking injuries at football. Having said that the problem has come from clubs paying excessive amounts to these players. In all honesty people from outside the CHFL shake their heads at the money on offer to players. To offer amounts of $700 - $1200 per game on one player is ridiculous even if the team does have the money to spend. If clubs didn't give players such large amounts their would be no problem with recruiting from within a league or from an outside league. Unfortunately the problem is here and a solution is needed and perhaps the point system could work with some fine tuning.

To say that being able to spend money on players shows who has the strongest and hardest working committees however is wrong. Stongest maybe but not hardest working. It's simply not an even playing field for all clubs. Now i'm not saying that the bigger spending clubs don't have extremely hard working committees, they obviously do, but facts are most have a larger base at the club to share the workload and a larger base to generate money through the local community, supporters and businesses unlike smaller clubs like Gordon, Springbank etc.

[merrigan]

so your back on that old chestnut again merrigan, let it go because you have no idea. Or ask Florence yourself, and he will tell you that Hepburn have never ever spoken to him. Ask Salesi and get the real facts... Your sources are way off the mark mate...So instead of bagging whatever comes up on this site, whats your thoughts on the proposal? or do you have something better to add and maybe even out the league.
You actually dont know Hepburn at all do you.

Yep I like that chestnut. I know Hepburn well enough. I won't ask Florence because I don't know him, but Andrew Tranquilli does and he reckons that Florence was offered that. Nor will I ask Salesi because I don't know him either, but what I have said about his Hepburn deal has been backed up by others on here. I think you might just be in denial Timmy when it comes to Hepburn player payments so I'll move on for now.

On the proposals for evening up the league, I don't like the tampering with the draw one. There are already enough inequities in it now and the changes would only make it worse I reckon. A club can have a vastly different side from 1 year to the next, you only have to look back on the ladders from past years. Newlyn finished on top in 03 & dropped to 11th in 04, Clunes 2nd in 05 to 11th the following year, Beaufort 3rd in 03 & 04 to last with 1 win in 05 just to name a few, so it could make a bad year even worse in a lot of cases.

I don't mind the points system. I remember reading somewhere that a playing coach gets allocated 0 points so that is 1 way of fitting in say a VFL player if a club was close to their points limit. Just to use Hepburn as an example, they wanted to fit Salesi Uhi in but as he was coming from a club within the same league he carried 7 pts, which put them over the limit. So to get around that they appoint him coach, no more pts! Robbo appointed assistant and still does what he's doing now, Uhi coach by title only. Far fetched but possible.

If that system was to start I wonder how the initial points allocation would work. Do all current players start with 1 point and recruits get points depending on where they are coming from, or does the entire list get points as per the table in Learmonths post.

For it to work all leagues would have to adopt it, in other words it would have to be a VCFL initiative, in other words it won't happen.

Seeing that we are mates Timmy, can you do me a favour? Ask Brendan Sheapard how old he is. Don't make it up or guess either.

[gothelakers]

Yep I like that chestnut. I know Hepburn well enough. I won't ask Florence because I don't know him, but Andrew Tranquilli does and he reckons that Florence was offered that. Nor will I ask Salesi because I don't know him either, but what I have said about his Hepburn deal has been backed up by others on here. I think you might just be in denial Timmy when it comes to Hepburn player payments so I'll move on for now.

On the proposals for evening up the league, I don't like the tampering with the draw one. There are already enough inequities in it now and the changes would only make it worse I reckon. A club can have a vastly different side from 1 year to the next, you only have to look back on the ladders from past years. Newlyn finished on top in 03 & dropped to 11th in 04, Clunes 2nd in 05 to 11th the following year, Beaufort 3rd in 03 & 04 to last with 1 win in 05 just to name a few, so it could make a bad year even worse in a lot of cases.

I don't mind the points system. I remember reading somewhere that a playing coach gets allocated 0 points so that is 1 way of fitting in say a VFL player if a club was close to their points limit. Just to use Hepburn as an example, they wanted to fit Salesi Uhi in but as he was coming from a club within the same league he carried 7 pts, which put them over the limit. So to get around that they appoint him coach, no more pts! Robbo appointed assistant and still does what he's doing now, Uhi coach by title only. Far fetched but possible.

If that system was to start I wonder how the initial points allocation would work. Do all current players start with 1 point and recruits get points depending on where they are coming from, or does the entire list get points as per the table in Learmonths post.

For it to work all leagues would have to adopt it, in other words it would have to be a VCFL initiative, in other words it won't happen.

Seeing that we are mates Timmy, can you do me a favour? Ask Brendan Sheapard how old he is. Don't make it up or guess either.

dunno how old he is but he is a big fat bald cu'nt.....

[Old School Biff]

dunno how old he is but he is a big fat bald cu'nt.....

From what I have seen of him, I doubt you or many others would have the courage to say it to his face.

I saw him play interleague against the Ballarat league and he hits like a Mack Truck. The talk was he is only 27-28.

[timmy 32]

Timmy,
Are you certain that he is wrong about Florance???
A mate that is close to Dave told me that a week after the season Hepburn offered Florance $1200 a game with the first 5 match payments to be paid as a lump cash sum before Christmas......
i am certain, ill put my house on it. An inquiry was made through Andrew Tranquilli when he left Springbank, but their was no reply, apparently Florence's work committments stopped him from traveling up the highway to play at Springbank, so it would have made it near impossible to travel further to Hepburn. At no stage was any $$ mentioned.
Players like to big note themselves at times, im not saying Florence does, but i can tell you that a certain 100 kicker from the MCDFL who returned to the LPFL last year is telling people that he was handed a huge wad of cash by a Hepburn committeeman as an incentive to sign during their first meeting. As i said some people like to big note themselves. Once again i'll put my house on it, it never happened.

[timmy 32]

Yep I like that chestnut. I know Hepburn well enough. I won't ask Florence because I don't know him, but Andrew Tranquilli does and he reckons that Florence was offered that. Nor will I ask Salesi because I don't know him either, but what I have said about his Hepburn deal has been backed up by others on here. I think you might just be in denial Timmy when it comes to Hepburn player payments so I'll move on for now.

On the proposals for evening up the league, I don't like the tampering with the draw one. There are already enough inequities in it now and the changes would only make it worse I reckon. A club can have a vastly different side from 1 year to the next, you only have to look back on the ladders from past years. Newlyn finished on top in 03 & dropped to 11th in 04, Clunes 2nd in 05 to 11th the following year, Beaufort 3rd in 03 & 04 to last with 1 win in 05 just to name a few, so it could make a bad year even worse in a lot of cases.

I don't mind the points system. I remember reading somewhere that a playing coach gets allocated 0 points so that is 1 way of fitting in say a VFL player if a club was close to their points limit. Just to use Hepburn as an example, they wanted to fit Salesi Uhi in but as he was coming from a club within the same league he carried 7 pts, which put them over the limit. So to get around that they appoint him coach, no more pts! Robbo appointed assistant and still does what he's doing now, Uhi coach by title only. Far fetched but possible.

If that system was to start I wonder how the initial points allocation would work. Do all current players start with 1 point and recruits get points depending on where they are coming from, or does the entire list get points as per the table in Learmonths post.

For it to work all leagues would have to adopt it, in other words it would have to be a VCFL initiative, in other words it won't happen.

Seeing that we are mates Timmy, can you do me a favour? Ask Brendan Sheapard how old he is. Don't make it up or guess either.
Happy to call a truce for a while, Shep will turn 27 this year

[dr evil]

Creswick vs Newlyn
Hepburn vs Ballan
Buninyong vs Gordan
Beaufort vs Daylesford
Clunes vs Dunnstown
Waubra vs Springbank
Bungaree vs Learmonth

i will take the same as kingrich in the tipping.i hope i dont jinks u mate

[Animal]

Creswick vs Newlyn - closer than some will think
Hepburn vs Ballan - hepburn scoreboard will get a workout
Buninyong vs Gordan - tranquilli will earn over $1000 for for 2 hours work
Beaufort vs Daylesford - winduss back will be a hiding
Clunes vs Dunnstown - towners will spank clunes
Waubra vs Springbank - brown to kick 8
Bungaree vs Learmonth - not as close as some will think

[orange5]

Creswick vs Newlyn
Hepburn vs Ballan
Buninyong vs Gordan
Beaufort vs Daylesford
Clunes vs Dunnstown
Waubra vs Springbank
Bungaree vs Learmonth

No real tough choices here apart from Bungaree v Learmonth, should be tight fought match this one

Creswick vs Newlyn
Hepburn vs Ballan
Buninyoung vs Gordon
Beaufort vs Daylesford
Clunes vs Dunnstown
Waubra vs Springbank
Bungaree vs Learmonth

[merrigan]

Creswick vs Newlyn - closer than some will think
Hepburn vs Ballan - hepburn scoreboard will get a workout
Buninyong vs Gordan - tranquilli will earn over $1000 for for 2 hours work
Beaufort vs Daylesford - winduss back will be a hiding
Clunes vs Dunnstown - towners will spank clunes
Waubra vs Springbank - brown to kick 8
Bungaree vs Learmonth - not as close as some will think

Creswick v Newlyn - Ugly
Hepburn v Ballan - Ugly
Buninyong v Gordon - Ugly, Tranquilli could kick 20
Beaufort v Daylesford - Won't have it all their own way, will have to work
Clunes v Dunnstown - Comfortably, could get ugly
Waubra v Springbank - Ugly
Bungaree v Learmonth - Comfortably

[osama83]

Creswick v Newlyn - Ugly
Hepburn v Ballan - Ugly
Buninyong v Gordon - Ugly, Tranquilli could kick 20
Beaufort v Daylesford - Won't have it all their own way, will have to work
Clunes v Dunnstown - Comfortably, could get ugly
Waubra v Springbank - Ugly
Bungaree v Learmonth - Comfortably


good luck to the big red head, named clint anthony ward tomorrow. he dominated last week and with a game under his belt he will destroy anything they throw at him. would hate to be the full back.. hope the boys at learmonth had a good day sunday. heard a few things went missing. GO CLINTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

[dools81]

You resting yourself again tomorrow Learmonth?

[tud34]

You resting yourself again tomorrow Learmonth?


AJ is it true you are out for the year?

[learmonth]

AJ is it true you are out for the year?

Yes, its a continuation from the injury last year when I dislocated my shoulder.Last year they thought 6 months off and some rehab would strenghen the shoulder, but it wasnt the case. Dislocated it against Waubra and at the same time tore subscapular and supranatis tendons. Only way to repair and tighten is to operate. Not sure of time frame for rehabilitation but local doctors have said 6 months before being able to play contact sport. Ill wait and see what the surgeon sais, but certainly wont be back this season from what im gathering.

[AxelFoley#5]

CHFL Tipping:
AxelFoley (7) 13
Trooper (6), Orange(7) 12
DfordDog (7), KingRich (7), DrEvil (7) 11
Animal(7) , Merrigan (7) 7

[F00TY2007]

Yes, its a continuation from the injury last year when I dislocated my shoulder.Last year they thought 6 months off and some rehab would strenghen the shoulder, but it wasnt the case. Dislocated it against Waubra and at the same time tore subscapular and supranatis tendons. Only way to repair and tighten is to operate. Not sure of time frame for rehabilitation but local doctors have said 6 months before being able to play contact sport. Ill wait and see what the surgeon sais, but certainly wont be back this season from what im gathering.


Learmonth you taking a pay cut now your injured or you going to keep the extra cash and put it towards a new visor?
Seeing as you were employed as a playing coach and you're not going to be doing much playing I would think that at least some of the $$$ your getting paid should be returned to the club.

[whodatbabydaddy]

Learmonth you taking a pay cut now your injured or you going to keep the extra cash and put it towards a new visor?
Seeing as you were employed as a playing coach and you're not going to be doing much playing I would think that at least some of the $$$ your getting paid should be returned to the club.


I'll take your bait on that one 07.

When AJ was interviewed for the coaching position, he had retired from playing in the BFL many months earlier due to cronic ankle injuries. This was widely reported and known by everyone except you FOOTY 07 it appears. :confused:

He was interviewed and hired as a coach for 2 years, but not even AJ could tell us if he could get back on the paddock again.

Some subsequent major surgery, rehab, the odd injection and body management has enabled AJ to play a dozen or so games each of the last two seasons, which has been an absolute bonus for us on the paddock.

We're bloody glad he accepted a contract extension to stay on with us as coach.

End of story.

[Animal]

Learmonth you taking a pay cut now your injured or you going to keep the extra cash and put it towards a new visor?
Seeing as you were employed as a playing coach and you're not going to be doing much playing I would think that at least some of the $$$ your getting paid should be returned to the club.

i stole his visor last weekend so yes he will need another.

[sharpshoota]

How does Hugh Saunders go? I believe he plays for Bunningyong? Can anyone give me an update on how he has been travelling?

[merrigan]

How does Hugh Saunders go? I believe he plays for Bunningyong? Can anyone give me an update on how he has been travelling?

Buninyong

[thekid178]

How does Hugh Saunders go? I believe he plays for Bunningyong? Can anyone give me an update on how he has been travelling?

He's at Bunninyong, from all accounts playing alright, has been all over the ground, wing, forward mostly.

Very athletic, decent hands, good player, only weakness is his kicking, he is a terrible kick, boh at goal and around the ground.

[Johny Utah]

Is Michael Davis playing for Dford thid year or is he off to the ammos with his brother?

[timmy 32]

Is Michael Davis playing for Dford thid year or is he off to the ammos with his brother?
Thanks Johnny, finally something interesting has come up.... Not sure on Davis, but as we all know his old man was coaching for free last year, but mick made sure he was not coming up the highway for free. He was the highest paid player in the CHFL last year, and a handy player too. The money isn't there this year so maybe he's walked, or he could only be playing the big games to save them money, so next week against Hepburn could be his first game. Interesting to see that Kenny Cummings is wearing his number 25 and Mick has been relegated to number 54, going by the footy record. This may suggest the Dogs wont see much of him in 2008.......
To the rest of you readers this site is getting pretty boring, if i was in a pub having a drink with you lot, i'd probably go and drink with the women. At least they always have something to talk about. Round 2 and its mid week and no news on the games from the weekend. Are we all going to rely on the Courier to accuratley inform us?
Dfd v Bft... Has the dogs slipped or just had a bad day? or maybe Beaufort have improved
Bunga beat D'twn round 1 then got flogged in the wet by Learmth, Maybe AJs boys are the real deal
Tranquilli was going to kick 20 by all reports, was the weather that bad at Buninyong, recruit Gunn BOG
Newlyn undefeated, have they improved?
Waubra bounced back with a vengance.......
Surely someone was at these games so please give us something to talk about

[merrigan]

Thanks Johnny, finally something interesting has come up.... Not sure on Davis, but as we all know his old man was coaching for free last year, but mick made sure he was not coming up the highway for free. He was the highest paid player in the CHFL last year, and a handy player too. The money isn't there this year so maybe he's walked, or he could only be playing the big games to save them money, so next week against Hepburn could be his first game. Interesting to see that Kenny Cummings is wearing his number 25 and Mick has been relegated to number 54, going by the footy record. This may suggest the Dogs wont see much of him in 2008.......
To the rest of you readers this site is getting pretty boring, if i was in a pub having a drink with you lot, i'd probably go and drink with the women. At least they always have something to talk about. Round 2 and its mid week and no news on the games from the weekend. Are we all going to rely on the Courier to accuratley inform us?
Dfd v Bft... Has the dogs slipped or just had a bad day? or maybe Beaufort have improved
Bunga beat D'twn round 1 then got flogged in the wet by Learmth, Maybe AJs boys are the real deal
Tranquilli was going to kick 20 by all reports, was the weather that bad at Buninyong, recruit Gunn BOG
Newlyn undefeated, have they improved?
Waubra bounced back with a vengance.......
Surely someone was at these games so please give us something to talk about

Well how about filling us in on your game, going by the courier it said reports and injuries for both teams. Any of Hepburns big guns?

[da_wog_from_so]

lee cox has done his knee out for season

[timmy 32]

Well how about filling us in on your game, going by the courier it said reports and injuries for both teams. Any of Hepburns big guns?
Nev Purtell was having scans for a possible broken jaw, but not as serious as first thought and Rodney Watts left the field with a leg injury, but by all reports it's just a corky. Matt Dillon will miss this week through suspension. so What have you got for me old mate?

[learmonth]

Thanks Johnny, finally something interesting has come up.... Not sure on Davis, but as we all know his old man was coaching for free last year, but mick made sure he was not coming up the highway for free. He was the highest paid player in the CHFL last year, and a handy player too. The money isn't there this year so maybe he's walked, or he could only be playing the big games to save them money, so next week against Hepburn could be his first game. Interesting to see that Kenny Cummings is wearing his number 25 and Mick has been relegated to number 54, going by the footy record. This may suggest the Dogs wont see much of him in 2008.......
To the rest of you readers this site is getting pretty boring, if i was in a pub having a drink with you lot, i'd probably go and drink with the women. At least they always have something to talk about. Round 2 and its mid week and no news on the games from the weekend. Are we all going to rely on the Courier to accuratley inform us?


Dfd v Bft... Has the dogs slipped or just had a bad day? or maybe Beaufort have improved
Bunga beat D'twn round 1 then got flogged in the wet by Learmth, Maybe AJs boys are the real deal
Tranquilli was going to kick 20 by all reports, was the weather that bad at Buninyong, recruit Gunn BOG
Newlyn undefeated, have they improved?
Waubra bounced back with a vengance.......
Surely someone was at these games so please give us something to talk about

Bungaree have a lot of players that arnt in the record and didnt name in the paper (they go okay-n.o 17 tall ruckman and moves well). They are better then what everyone first thought, but from my perception rnd 1 can cause upsets and I think they got Dunnstown on a lucky day. They wont make the top 5. Reid played midfield for 90% of the day and was good, but he was recruited as a key forward and thats where they struggled all day, and very one dimensional through Nicholson who has lost a lot of weight.
Dunnstown this week, wil be tough, they have beaten Learmonth the last two times we have played them by 12 & 10 points. Massive game for the Lakies as if we can win this game then we get a 2 game break on the towners who were early pre-season favorites for top 3. Will be interesting to see if D'town play Brearly and the 2 injured Carr boys. They are a massive loss, being in their best 5 along with Mckay & Sidebottom. Sawyers is good but has never really dominated against us, so hopefully he wont this week.

Majority of the sides haven played anyone yet so hard to judge who is travelling well, top sides can get bottled up against lower placed sides in wet weather if they arnt disciplined.

Also a point of note, heard that Jake Dignan (Nth Roosters/Buninyong) played for Beaufort on the weekend. An email was sent to clubs, stating players must be registered. I hope the league acts on this as technically he is still a Buninyong player. Surely Beaufort couldnt have thought they would get away with that. VCFL rules state that if true, its a forfeit and the scoreline reads Dford 60- Beaufort 0 as thats what the rules state with scores. Time to act CHFL delegates and secretary ensuring that this league doesnt become a joke with allowing this to happen. Also not sure what the monetary penalty is, but hit them with that 2.

[Bailey]

Bungaree have a lot of players that arnt in the record and didnt name in the paper (they go okay-n.o 17 tall ruckman and moves well). They are better then what everyone first thought, but from my perception rnd 1 can cause upsets and I think they got Dunnstown on a lucky day. They wont make the top 5. Reid played midfield for 90% of the day and was good, but he was recruited as a key forward and thats where they struggled all day, and very one dimensional through Nicholson who has lost a lot of weight.
Dunnstown this week, wil be tough, they have beaten Learmonth the last two times we have played them by 12 & 10 points. Massive game for the Lakies as if we can win this game then we get a 2 game break on the towners who were early pre-season favorites for top 3. Will be interesting to see if D'town play Brearly and the 2 injured Carr boys. They are a massive loss, being in their best 5 along with Mckay & Sidebottom. Sawyers is good but has never really dominated against us, so hopefully he wont this week.

Majority of the sides haven played anyone yet so hard to judge who is travelling well, top sides can get bottled up against lower placed sides in wet weather if they arnt disciplined.

Also a point of note, heard that Jake Dignan (Nth Roosters/Buninyong) played for Beaufort on the weekend. An email was sent to clubs, stating players must be registered. I hope the league acts on this as technically he is still a Buninyong player. Surely Beaufort couldnt have thought they would get away with that. VCFL rules state that if true, its a forfeit and the scoreline reads Dford 60- Beaufort 0 as thats what the rules state with scores. Time to act CHFL delegates and secretary ensuring that this league doesnt become a joke with allowing this to happen. Also not sure what the monetary penalty is, but hit them with that 2.


Are Sam Basham and Leon Davey back this week Learmonth?

[sharpshoota]

He's at Bunninyong, from all accounts playing alright, has been all over the ground, wing, forward mostly.

Very athletic, decent hands, good player, only weakness is his kicking, he is a terrible kick, boh at goal and around the ground.

Thanks mate. He played at Stanhope last year in our premiership side and was a very handy recruit. As you mentioned he is very athletic and has a good set of hands. Played across the centre for us on a wing and half forward.

[merrigan]

Nev Purtell was having scans for a possible broken jaw, but not as serious as first thought and Rodney Watts left the field with a leg injury, but by all reports it's just a corky. Matt Dillon will miss this week through suspension. so What have you got for me old mate?

Waubra been splashing the cash about. $1000 sign on payments & 350 a game to Dean Chester and Rob Greig from Nth Ballarat. $2000 for 2 blokes that may not even play a match. Also believe they may have offered the same to a couple of other Nth guys, Jacob Spolding may have been 1.

Heard Dunnstown star recruit Simon Brearly could miss 10 weeks or worse with a knee injury. Also Jaye Caher could be out for a month with a leg injury of some sort. Calf?? Big blow for them after some good recruiting in the off season if true.

[Trooper4]

Bungaree have a lot of players that arnt in the record and didnt name in the paper (they go okay-n.o 17 tall ruckman and moves well). They are better then what everyone first thought, but from my perception rnd 1 can cause upsets and I think they got Dunnstown on a lucky day. They wont make the top 5. Reid played midfield for 90% of the day and was good, but he was recruited as a key forward and thats where they struggled all day, and very one dimensional through Nicholson who has lost a lot of weight.

#17 for Bungaree is Jacob Avery, who is one of their numerous quality recruits this season. along with Ben Leske (CHB), Nick Abbott (Mid), Tim Glasson (Mid) and Sam Buchanan(HBF).

Bungarees problem on the weekend was that they lost key defender Jon Barnett and young mid Nick Abbott in the first 5 minutes to hamstring injuries. Not to mention the fact that they were missing captain Mick Steenhuis in the midfield on the weekend. When Steennhuis or Abbott are back and fit, i'd say that Reid will be able to put himself down forward and cause a few headaches with the parnership of him and Nicholson.
I thought another youngster who wasnt mentioned in the record but was very good, was #66 Sam Buchanan who shut down Basham for the whole game.

[learmonth]

#17 for Bungaree is Jacob Avery, who is one of their numerous quality recruits this season. along with Ben Leske (CHB), Nick Abbott (Mid), Tim Glasson (Mid) and Sam Buchanan(HBF).

Bungarees problem on the weekend was that they lost key defender Jon Barnett and young mid Nick Abbott in the first 5 minutes to hamstring injuries. Not to mention the fact that they were missing captain Mick Steenhuis in the midfield on the weekend. When Steennhuis or Abbott are back and fit, i'd say that Reid will be able to put himself down forward and cause a few headaches with the parnership of him and Nicholson.
I thought another youngster who wasnt mentioned in the record but was very good, was #66 Sam Buchanan who shut down Basham for the whole game.

Not sure what game you were watching, but jon basham was the matchwinner after 1/2 time. Kicked 3 goals in the wet and many telling marks in the wet. I wouldn say Jon Barnett is a key defender and im good mates with him, Abbot played out the game and is nothing special. Glasson also struggled on the weekend, but is an okay outside footballer. Wont win to many games of his own boot. He should also being playing forward in my opinion as is more of a goal sneak than big possesion winner. With all these supposed hamstrings, you may have the Essendon curse....

[ORACLE 69]

Not sure what game you were watching, but jon basham was the matchwinner after 1/2 time. Kicked 3 goals in the wet and many telling marks in the wet. I wouldn say Jon Barnett is a key defender and im good mates with him, Abbot played out the game and is nothing special. Glasson also struggled on the weekend, but is an okay outside footballer. Wont win to many games of his own boot. He should also being playing forward in my opinion as is more of a goal sneak than big possesion winner. With all these supposed hamstrings, you may have the Essendon curse....

Come on beachy since when have you had mates!!:D

[da_wog_from_so]

lee cox today fell of a roof while attempting to do flashing in the wet today big loss for hepburn shep might actually have some impact which he hasnt done yet!!!

[DfordDog]

lee cox today fell of a roof while attempting to do flashing in the wet today big loss for hepburn shep might actually have some impact which he hasnt done yet!!!

Hmmm might wait for official word on this one. Be a shame if he has, is actually a really good bloke. Many ppl prob dont know that because of the jumper he wears.

[Queen of Sheba]

lee cox today fell of a roof while attempting to do flashing in the wet today big loss for hepburn shep might actually have some impact which he hasnt done yet!!!

I don't think his doctor will be happy to hear about him being on a roof with his season ending knee injury ???:rolleyes: Bet the ladies were happy though !!:eek:

[merrigan]

I don't think his doctor will be happy to hear about him being on a roof with his season ending knee injury ???:rolleyes: Bet the ladies were happy though !!:eek:

Yes probably just as well he did fall, may have been arrested otherwise

[Freak Dodgeball Accident]

I was flicking through the Advocate the other day and spotted this picture in the personals. Timmy, is that you?

http://i32.tinypic.com/svkv4g.jpg

[da_wog_from_so]

Yes probably just as well he did fall, may have been arrested otherwise

what does that mean you knobhead?

[da_wog_from_so]

Hepburn will win the flag this year dont get cut up people!

[merrigan]

what does that mean you knobhead?

You said he was flashing. You knobhead

[AxelFoley#5]

Anywayz...back to the footy!

My tips for round 3:

Learmonth vs Dunnstown
Ballan vs Buninyong
Beaufort vs Clunes
Newlyn vs Hepburn.
Springbank vs Bungaree
Gordon vs Waubra
Daylesford vs Creswick

[Trooper4]

Anywayz...back to the footy!

My tips for round 3:

Learmonth vs Dunnstown
Ballan vs Buninyong
Beaufort vs Clunes
Newlyn vs Hepburn.
Springbank vs Bungaree
Gordon vs Waubra
Daylesford vs Creswick

Learmonth vs Dunnstown
Ballan vs Buninyong
Beaufort vs Clunes
Newlyn vs Hepburn.
Springbank vs Bungaree
Gordon vs Waubra
Daylesford vs Creswick

pretty straight forward round i think... Learmonth and Dunnstown is definately the match of the round and the only tough one to pick a clear winner.

[KingRich]

Learmonth vs Dunnstown
Ballan vs Buninyong
Beaufort vs Clunes
Newlyn vs Hepburn.
Springbank vs Bungaree
Gordon vs Waubra
Daylesford vs Creswick