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chfl_fan5
15 Sep 2008, 21:33
Investments you may call them, but as i have said before, how many local players actually live in Learmonth or Waubra? Hepburn are a very smart club in what they do and proved it again yesterday. Our players are here for the right reasons, make no mistake about that.
No infighting at all, that was just a heap of crap that our old friend Shane 19 was spreading, trying to derail the club. Bad luck Shane 19 you are the loser and we are the victors! ... hope you have had a prick of a weekend, you deserve it.
I can confirm that Robbo will coach again in 09, and every single player that played in yesterdays senior side ( and i mean every single player )had already signed on before the Grand Final had even been played. So no doubt Hepburn will be up there again.
Our B & F count is on next Saturday, so i will fill you in on the results .

Hey, I am all for smart recruiting, and of course i cannot think of a team that would not want your forward line and it is great for you that they have all re-signed, but you cannot compare the ability of Learmonth & Waubra to use and hold locals, with the likes of Hepburn, Dford, Creswick and Clunes. But learmonth, waubra, Dunnstown and Bungaree are great for players from Ballarat and surrounding area's who have moved for work uni etc. The question is now, and what every team will be asking themselves is what can be done to stop hepburn, for every team now there is only one team to beat. Should be a cracking comp next year.

confusia say
15 Sep 2008, 23:42
first up he is not the coach he is a player, and if i recall correctly a small scruff broke out that was harmless, that is until the entire bench lead by chief brown ran onto the ground and made things a whole lot worse than it was followed by staff and supporters, seems a bit of a coincidence that the huddles for the first 2 q's where held 15 to 20 metres from the bench but this one was STAGED on the forward flank where the blew was so defend all you want but fact is fact. this is not sour grapes hepburn where the top team all yeah so losing to them is nothing to be ashamed about, but i would have liked tohave seen the last quater with both sides at full strength. the actions by your officials where out of line as was that of the ump but other than that it was a great game of two's football just a shame that it MAY have affected the result of a game that you only get one crack at winning. u claim to be this all mighty club so lead by example and clean up some of the bullsh#t that keeps coming from within and win with abit of grace and u might get some respect because that is one thing the mighty burra will never be able to BUY.

Gnawing on a pie
16 Sep 2008, 14:12
first up he is not the coach he is a player, and if i recall correctly a small scruff broke out that was harmless, that is until the entire bench lead by chief brown ran onto the ground and made things a whole lot worse than it was followed by staff and supporters, seems a bit of a coincidence that the huddles for the first 2 q's where held 15 to 20 metres from the bench but this one was STAGED on the forward flank where the blew was so defend all you want but fact is fact. this is not sour grapes hepburn where the top team all yeah so losing to them is nothing to be ashamed about, but i would have liked tohave seen the last quater with both sides at full strength. the actions by your officials where out of line as was that of the ump but other than that it was a great game of two's football just a shame that it MAY have affected the result of a game that you only get one crack at winning. u claim to be this all mighty club so lead by example and clean up some of the bullsh#t that keeps coming from within and win with abit of grace and u might get some respect because that is one thing the mighty burra will never be able to BUY.

mate, as an onlooker i saw that your player was in the opposition 3 quarter time huddle blewing with a team offical, if he had any brains he wouldve walked away, remember he was in hepburns huddle, he made the choice to get involved, the hepburn official was not in buninyong's huddle......the umpire repeatedly told him to get to his own huddle which he continued to refuse so the way i see it, the umpire was in the right to be handing out punishment to a player who refuses to leave the opposition team huddle.......if you think that the incident affected the result of the game maybe your club should punish the player because he may have cost you a flag........stupid low act

Deledio2Tambling
16 Sep 2008, 14:53
Please take this post as a serious one, and please believe me I'm not having a dig here at Hepburn. I think we are all in awe of your list, but I have one question.

What do some of the local players think about these imported guys and how they (the locals) can't get games even in the reserves now, because they are bumped down the list?

Like I said this is an honest question.

Congrats on the premiership by the way :thumbsu:

confusia say
16 Sep 2008, 18:15
seems that you keep forgeting that the huddle was only there because they chose to run onto the field and get involved and that is my point.
it is a shame that commonsense seems to be a thing of the past

Gnawing on a pie
16 Sep 2008, 19:07
seems that you keep forgeting that the huddle was only there because they chose to run onto the field and get involved and that is my point.
it is a shame that commonsense seems to be a thing of the past

i'm not sure how new you are to the game of australian rules football, but when the siren blows signifying the end of a quarter teams generally get together in a huddle and get ready for the next quarter, this requires coaches and players on the bench to enter the playing arena...........the fact is that it was at hepburns huddle and there were several buninyong players getting there nose in amongst where they shouldnt have been in the first place............nobody likes a sore loser confusia, so maybe stop complaining about the result of this year and put in a big preseason and try and knock them off next year

confusia say
16 Sep 2008, 21:29
i am not a player for buninyong at this stage but thanks for the words of advice. the result is the result i am not trying to take anything away from hepburn. just shits me to see umpires over umpire maybe they should spend more time worring about the actual game.
still believe that the actions of a certain assistant coach for the burra should not have gone unnoticed.
had my say am now over it.

timmy 32
16 Sep 2008, 21:57
Please take this post as a serious one, and please believe me I'm not having a dig here at Hepburn. I think we are all in awe of your list, but I have one question.

What do some of the local players think about these imported guys and how they (the locals) can't get games even in the reserves now, because they are bumped down the list?

Like I said this is an honest question.

Congrats on the premiership by the way :thumbsu:
Thats a fair and reasonable question, because you have asked it in the right fashion. So i will try to answer it as honestly as i can and i hope it makes some sense.
After our troubles in 2000, the club decided that it would not hold back any player that wanted to leave and play elsewhere in 2001. We had a mass exodus and we really struggled to field sides in all grades during 2001, constantly officials would walk around the boundary knocking on supporters car windows asking our spectators to help make up the numbers in the two's. Many players fathers helped out by playing that year.
We still had a hard working committee, which could raise funds, so we had to recruit players to compete against the Springbank's of that era.
Our juniors were faltering, so we appointed very good junoir coaches, to teach our kids how to play the game, and hopefully go on to become senior players for us.
We recruited well in 2002 & 03, just missing the finals
In 2004 Robbo came along, and with it so did a lot of excitement, more recruits came, but more importantly the local players really put in and we won the senior and reserves flags of 2004.
This era is still going but we have certainly tapered off in our recruiting in recent seasons, just got a lot smarter in the players we recruit..
For example we recruited only 9 players this year ( 5 played seniors on saturday ), compared to Learmonth about 19 and Buninyong about 30 players.
No doubt we cant keep every local happy, but we had 28 locals with premiership medalions around their neck on Saturday night.
If we didn't recruit , lets say, coxy, andy , shep , and peaky, i reckon we may have been right back in the pack,
without them our best 4 players from the two's would have played ones, so our side would not have been any where near as strong.
Our reserves would have lost 4 very good players, and the 4 players who missed out on a game on the weekend all would have played.
Possibly we could have lost both grades, as we did last year, with a lot of sorry faces getting around.
But as a result of a bit of recruiting , both sides are celebrating.
Premierships dont come easy, you have to do the hard work , and sometimes certain players dont put in the hard yards all through the season when its required. Not saying that ours didn't but to win premierships there is always personal dissapointment as well.
23 of those juniors back in 2001 & 2001 played in premierships on Saturday, and thats not including 16 yo Sam Conroy who played in the seniors.
Hopefully that makes sense in a little of what we do, sounds easy, but its a lot of bloody hard work and 100s & 100s of hours by everone in the club involved with absoloutly no passengers.
We will never keep all our players happy as i know your club cant either. There is always a bump you have to deal with along the way, thats what makes being involved in country football so great.
( id rather see 28 of our locals with smiles on the faces with premiership medalions than than none at all... and i bet every single club would feel the same way )

Deledio2Tambling
17 Sep 2008, 01:07
Fantastic (and long :D) post timmy :thumbsu:

Provided some real insight and I'm glad you read my question in the right way :thumbsu:

All the best mate. Cheers.

Trooper4
17 Sep 2008, 13:14
just thought i'd let everyone know that joey carmody won the Bungaree B&F and Chris Morley came runner up. excellent year by both of them... i think everyone out at Bungaree was shocked when Joey didnt even get 1 vote in the league B&F.

and Bungaree are looking to change their name from Bungaree Demons to the Bungaree Lions... after they have recruited half of redans players for 09.

Dickin Cider
17 Sep 2008, 13:31
We recruited well in 2002 & 03, just missing the finals
In 2004 Robbo came along, and with it so did a lot of excitement, more recruits came, but more importantly the local players really put in and we won the senior and reserves flags of 2004.
This era is still going but we have certainly tapered off in our recruiting in recent seasons, just got a lot smarter in the players we recruit..
For example we recruited only 9 players this year ( 5 played seniors on saturday ), compared to Learmonth about 19 and Buninyong about 30 players.
Timmy, what percentage do you think the Hepburn senior side has of locals? I did a quick look over of the D'ford side and could only count 4 imports (according to country footy scores/vcfl site team line ups). Out of the 4, D.Thompson is one of them, although he has been there for years. Would you or other Hepburn supporters consider Newton, Leehane and the James' as locals?

dr evil
17 Sep 2008, 14:52
just thought i'd let everyone know that joey carmody won the Bungaree B&F and Chris Morley came runner up. excellent year by both of them... i think everyone out at Bungaree was shocked when Joey didnt even get 1 vote in the league B&F.

and Bungaree are looking to change their name from Bungaree Demons to the Bungaree Lions... after they have recruited half of redans players for 09.

so who u got edwards field? hope they preform better than knowles cummings and reid did last year.However reid did preform better this year in his second year of a 5 year plan

sheen of queeba
17 Sep 2008, 15:08
We recruited well in 2002 & 03, just missing the finals
In 2004 Robbo came along, and with it so did a lot of excitement, more recruits came, but more importantly the local players really put in and we won the senior and reserves flags of 2004.
This era is still going but we have certainly tapered off in our recruiting in recent seasons, just got a lot smarter in the players we recruit..
For example we recruited only 9 players this year ( 5 played seniors on saturday ), compared to Learmonth about 19 and Buninyong about 30 players.
Timmy, what percentage do you think the Hepburn senior side has of locals? I did a quick look over of the D'ford side and could only count 4 imports (according to country footy scores/vcfl site team line ups). Out of the 4, D.Thompson is one of them, although he has been there for years. Would you or other Hepburn supporters consider Newton, Leehane and the James' as locals?
Yes i think the actual count was only two recruits, with that being savige and button. And as much as hepburn are despised or envied, depending on how you look at them, they have to be given credit about getting to where they are now. And as much as everyone would also like to say that they wouldn't recruit as hard as hepburn if they were in that same position, i know that is crap. They have realised that there not going to win premierships going with just local talent, and good luck to them for following that path. The best team won on the day, and without sounding bitter, would be interesting to see how they would go if the points cap is introduced in the next few years. I bet you they would fall a long way back into the field. Wouldn't be too sure about the redan and bungaree situation also, with rumors around ballarat that redan are loading up at one final challenge.

Queen of Sheba
17 Sep 2008, 15:09
Just a question as to why Jack Savaige was not playing on the weekend?? Maybe you could answer this one Madroota ??????

cowboy8
17 Sep 2008, 16:56
heard ballan have signed tommy mullane grant as asst for next year

timmy 32
17 Sep 2008, 17:20
We recruited well in 2002 & 03, just missing the finals
In 2004 Robbo came along, and with it so did a lot of excitement, more recruits came, but more importantly the local players really put in and we won the senior and reserves flags of 2004.
This era is still going but we have certainly tapered off in our recruiting in recent seasons, just got a lot smarter in the players we recruit..
For example we recruited only 9 players this year ( 5 played seniors on saturday ), compared to Learmonth about 19 and Buninyong about 30 players.
Timmy, what percentage do you think the Hepburn senior side has of locals? I did a quick look over of the D'ford side and could only count 4 imports (according to country footy scores/vcfl site team line ups). Out of the 4, D.Thompson is one of them, although he has been there for years. Would you or other Hepburn supporters consider Newton, Leehane and the James' as locals?
Not once did i mention Daylesford, ( so dont know why you are comparing us to them ) just tried to state what we do. We had 9 locals play on Saturday,. People always question recruits who leave after only one year.. although Newton, and the James' arnt locals, we regard them as locals because of the effort they have put into our club over the years, but i didn't include them in the 9. Leehane is a local, he lives here.
The dogs had two imports,Button and Savige, and how did they go on Saturday?
they wouldn't have had 5 possesions between them... our recruits all starred...
never said we are a side full of locals.. it will be very interesting to see what happens to Daylesford once their stars who are not getting any younger move on.. they have been great players and still are, but it will be interesting which players take up the slack in the next few years. If they are not good enough then they might have to recruit too.

confusia say
17 Sep 2008, 17:41
For example we recruited only 9 players this year ( 5 played seniors on saturday ), compared to Learmonth about 19 and Buninyong about 30 players.
as stated by timmy 32, would love to know who u think the 30 payers are

timmy 32
17 Sep 2008, 18:02
For example we recruited only 9 players this year ( 5 played seniors on saturday ), compared to Learmonth about 19 and Buninyong about 30 players.
as stated by timmy 32, would love to know who u think the 30 payers are
Yeah probably wrong there , i just quickly looked through the CHFL transfers list, but you's did pick up a lot during pre season

Trooper4
17 Sep 2008, 18:42
heard ballan have signed tommy mullane grant as asst for next year

thats big news if he has gone accross. he has a few mates over that way. Was pretty good down at Bannockburn this year.

And from what i heard at the bungaree function on the w.e, they have signed 4-5 players from redan, and and are talking to a few from the SANFL.

confusia say
17 Sep 2008, 19:52
of our pick ups last year most live in bunny and the rest are gong to uni at mt helen.
we don't pay out big dollars as many people believe most of the clubs funds went to the nets behind the goals and the hire and fuel for the light towers,building of coaches boxes ect because the local council didn't finish the job off lights should be up by next season then we can start to move forward.
we cannot afford to pay big dollars just lucky that people chose to play were there heart is as far as buninyong go's.
hopefully next year we can afford to top the list up a bit and have a real crack at it.
have heard the club has been approached by a few big bfl name players but not confirmed as yet.

cowboy8
17 Sep 2008, 20:02
of our pick ups last year most live in bunny and the rest are gong to uni at mt helen.
we don't pay out big dollars as many people believe most of the clubs funds went to the nets behind the goals and the hire and fuel for the light towers,building of coaches boxes ect because the local council didn't finish the job off lights should be up by next season then we can start to move forward.
we cannot afford to pay big dollars just lucky that people chose to play were there heart is as far as buninyong go's.
hopefully next year we can afford to top the list up a bit and have a real crack at it.
have heard the club has been approached by a few big bfl name players but not confirmed as yet.

is it true tranqulli was on 500 game and 50 a goal? also does anyone know if luke adams is coaching springbank

cowboy8
17 Sep 2008, 20:05
thats big news if he has gone accross. he has a few mates over that way. Was pretty good down at Bannockburn this year.

And from what i heard at the bungaree function on the w.e, they have signed 4-5 players from redan, and and are talking to a few from the SANFL.


he has family there to. also talking to fullback who played in north 2s all year

chfl_fan5
17 Sep 2008, 20:50
he has family there to. also talking to fullback who played in north 2s all year

Looks like the hunt for a team that can match hepburn has begun. Would not be surprised if a few of the better players from Skipton, Rok-Cnhp & Carn-Lntn are picked over as well.

Just with the points cap system, could AJ or Timmy knock up a points count of the two teams from the GF, see how they stack up. Anyone know if any other leagues use and cap's, points or otherwise?

confusia say
17 Sep 2008, 20:58
blaaahhh!!!! no not true. not sure of exact figure but think he is on $280 a game which is cheap for a playing assistant coach especially considering the amount of work he puts in.(no money per goal)i know he knocked bach big dollars from dunnstown and some bfl clubs as he lives in the young and had respect for the club when playing for springbank,
he would also be the only one over $200 a game and only about 7 players are on money.as i have stated before buninyong is full of very loyal people and some great home grown talent, that have and will get big dollars thrown at them from other clubs and different leagues. being a great club and being surrounded by people who have come up through the ranks is how we keep our players and attract new ones not with filthy amounts of money.

Bdiddy18
17 Sep 2008, 21:19
blaaahhh!!!! no not true. not sure of exact figure but think he is on $280 a game which is cheap for a playing assistant coach especially considering the amount of work he puts in.(no money per goal)i know he knocked bach big dollars from dunnstown and some bfl clubs as he lives in the young and had respect for the club when playing for springbank,
he would also be the only one over $200 a game and only about 7 players are on money.as i have stated before buninyong is full of very loyal people and some great home grown talent, that have and will get big dollars thrown at them from other clubs and different leagues. being a great club and being surrounded by people who have come up through the ranks is how we keep our players and attract new ones not with filthy amounts of money.

Mate wake up to yourself, Tranquilli is on a lot more than $280 a game. Seriously mate wake up and smell the roses.

timmy 32
17 Sep 2008, 22:25
Looks like the hunt for a team that can match hepburn has begun. Would not be surprised if a few of the better players from Skipton, Rok-Cnhp & Carn-Lntn are picked over as well.

Just with the points cap system, could AJ or Timmy knock up a points count of the two teams from the GF, see how they stack up. Anyone know if any other leagues use and cap's, points or otherwise?
this was on the site earlier in the season, and it seems AJ is still pondering what happened to his team a couple of weeks ago, so i have done some figures.
Problem is i dont know what figure the cap would be set at....
Both Grand Final sides which played on Saturday scored 34 each ! im not lying...
Our highest ranked players were Sal Uhi with 5 coming from Ballan ( which was in our own league ) Jack Douglass scored 3 coming from the Bendigo FL..... Our other recruits are 2, 3, 4 and 5 year players now, so their rating drops by one each year they stay loyal....
as i said if you look after your recruits then they in turn will look after you.
Daylesford's highest ranked players were Paul Cook and Kenny Cummings on 5, both being cleared by us., next were Button and Thomas on 3 coming from the Ballarat FL, the rest of the group all scored one point each...
Interesting isn't it

Deledio2Tambling
17 Sep 2008, 22:32
How does the points system work? What is the point of it? I'm embarrassed to say I've never heard of it? :o

timmy 32
17 Sep 2008, 23:07
How does the points system work? What is the point of it? I'm embarrassed to say I've never heard of it? :o
This is how Learmonth explained how it works on 23 April 2008
Re: Central Highlands
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Originally Posted by dr evil http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/curves/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=10769280#post10769280)
dont like it i think a points system that other leagues use wood be a better system its abit hard to explain but i think it wood work better its like a salary cap but easier to police because there is no cash just points.Learmonth is a fan of this concept he might be able to fill u in on the finer points i cant type 4 shit


The points system is the only concept that will even up the competition and its been explained before. This other system will not work as country clubs vary from year to year and the draw operates over a three year period.

This is how it works-

5 points for an AFL player (Chris Grant) or player from within the league (CHFL- eg Salesi Uhi)) That help prevents clubs taking other players from sides within the league)
4 points- State League Player (VFL/SANFL/WAFL etc/Vic/SA Country representative etc from previous season. ie- 2007 season
3 points- Major League- These leagues have been classified and play in Worksafe cup- i.e Ballarat, Bendigo, Ovens & Murry, Geelong, Central Murry etc- Nick Willox Learmonth, Aaaron Bones Beaufort would be an example of this
2 points- Any minor league- Eg- Riddell, Maryborough Castlemaine, Lexton Plains etc- Last year Jake Pring would have come under this from Daylesford.
1 point- Junior player or player that has been at the club for 3 years.

At the end of each season a point is deducted from each player to reward loyality as an ex AFL player in 3 years time would only be worth 2 points.

This system prevents sides from going out and just buying a side recklessly and also ensures that players become more loyal. It has shown in other leagues that recruits stay longer.

All sides have different points and this would be evaluated from the last 3 years results with sides like hepburn, Waubra Daylesford etc having say 44 points per game while a side like gordon may start with around 50 points which enables them to try and even the playing field.

Thats roughly how it operates... HAve seen sides have to play with 1 interchange player due to not being able to fit under the points system. It can be policed easily as all players are ranked at the start of the season and it can be notified on team sheet before game and the CHFL administrtors would just go over it. Clubs could even monitor it, if the league handed out what all players are worth.

Comments

Over and out

Deledio2Tambling
18 Sep 2008, 00:35
Ahhh thanks again Timmy :thumbsu:

Certainly an interesting theory.

dr evil
18 Sep 2008, 00:42
blaaahhh!!!! no not true. not sure of exact figure but think he is on $280 a game which is cheap for a playing assistant coach especially considering the amount of work he puts in.(no money per goal)i know he knocked bach big dollars from dunnstown and some bfl clubs as he lives in the young and had respect for the club when playing for springbank,
he would also be the only one over $200 a game and only about 7 players are on money.as i have stated before buninyong is full of very loyal people and some great home grown talent, that have and will get big dollars thrown at them from other clubs and different leagues. being a great club and being surrounded by people who have come up through the ranks is how we keep our players and attract new ones not with filthy amounts of money.
$280 he wouldnt get out of bed for that

ROOSTER1
18 Sep 2008, 07:21
timmy i have been reading your posts and you sound like a man with a lot of inside knowledge. i enjoy reading your posts as they seem to be all fact. Congratulations on another successful year at hepburn. It shows what a lot of hard work behind the scenes does at a country club. I also agree that the recruits at hepburn stay a long time. I would imagine if you looked over the past few years, those that have left have moved on for very good reasons, not that they were unhappy at the club.. i read with anticipation. Also well done on securing the players for next year.

learmonth
18 Sep 2008, 10:25
this was on the site earlier in the season, and it seems AJ is still pondering what happened to his team a couple of weeks ago, so i have done some figures.
Problem is i dont know what figure the cap would be set at....
Both Grand Final sides which played on Saturday scored 34 each ! im not lying...
Our highest ranked players were Sal Uhi with 5 coming from Ballan ( which was in our own league ) Jack Douglass scored 3 coming from the Bendigo FL..... Our other recruits are 2, 3, 4 and 5 year players now, so their rating drops by one each year they stay loyal....
as i said if you look after your recruits then they in turn will look after you.
Daylesford's highest ranked players were Paul Cook and Kenny Cummings on 5, both being cleared by us., next were Button and Thomas on 3 coming from the Ballarat FL, the rest of the group all scored one point each...
Interesting isn't it

Hello all, Am still pondering but thats footy!!!

Learmonths Prelim side valued 36 points so higher than both Hep & Dford. Highest points when to Ty Veldhuis (Dford) & Miller (Clunes) 5 points, Leyonjelm 3 points from Nhill Major League. Have a lot of 1 pointers as well Gudge, Wade Veldhuis, Brad Hubble, Tim Sinclair, Dave Wright, Paul Rogan, Jason Duffy, Leon Davey, Jon & Sam BAsham, James Sobey, Powell, Azz Davies, Robertson & Lee. This is due to locals or players like gudge & Wade being there for 3 years.

Congratulations to Hepburn...Best side won the flag!!

Pity about the ground, always windy and crap atmosphere...Bring teh game back to learmonth....Run Busses and crowd would be very similar..+ a better spectacle for all...

Now a long pre-season ahead...............& recruitment ahs already stated...

As for Buninyong not paying.... Your kidding yaself mate..All clubs do so stop denying.

Bunga getting all these Redan players, wernt they doing it last year.. They will get Justin Rumble but will stuggle to get any senior players.. If any they will be 2's players.

Rumors have begun.............Good for footy

Dickin Cider
18 Sep 2008, 11:50
Not once did i mention Daylesford, ( so dont know why you are comparing us to them ) just tried to state what we do. We had 9 locals play on Saturday,. People always question recruits who leave after only one year.. although Newton, and the James' arnt locals, we regard them as locals because of the effort they have put into our club over the years, but i didn't include them in the 9. Leehane is a local, he lives here.
The dogs had two imports,Button and Savige, and how did they go on Saturday?
they wouldn't have had 5 possesions between them... our recruits all starred...
never said we are a side full of locals.. it will be very interesting to see what happens to Daylesford once their stars who are not getting any younger move on.. they have been great players and still are, but it will be interesting which players take up the slack in the next few years. If they are not good enough then they might have to recruit too.


I know you didnt mention D'ford, that was me comparing you to them. Its good to get an understanding of what other supporters consider locals. Are you bitter to lose some Hepburn local talent to D'ford over the years, Cook, Rogers, Thomas etc? D'ford might be an aging list, but I think they will be smart with looking after thier depth this time round. Once bitten twice shy.

confusia say
18 Sep 2008, 18:33
first of all i don't expect anyone out there to believe me on what AT is on a game and thats fine we no how our club works and it isn't really anyone's business, but ask yourself this why is it we have all but signed quality players then out of the blue we get informed that another club say dunnstown or springbank ect, has doubled our offer and we lose them, that is because we don't spend huge dollars and cannot afford to at this stage anyway.
and secondly learmonth its nice that you could manage to wipe the tears away to read my post but get it right no where did i mention that buninyong dosn't pay players? i stated that we don't pay huge dollars and generly pick uppeople that have played for or who live in buninyong as is the case with 95% of our list so maybe you should worry about your club and what they are going to do after you have sucked every last dollar out of there bank accounts recruiting your mates and over paying them and yourself only to fall short once again who's going to pick up the pieces i ask? WHO!?

confusia say
18 Sep 2008, 18:36
[quote=Dickin Cider;12493585]I know you didnt mention D'ford, that was me comparing you to them. Its good to get an understanding of what other supporters consider locals. Are you bitter to lose some Hepburn local talent to D'ford over the years, Cook, Rogers, Thomas etc? D'ford might be an aging list, but I think they will be smart with looking after thier depth this time round. Once bitten twice shy.[/quote
LOVE THE NAME QUITE HUMOUROUS

chfl_fan5
18 Sep 2008, 18:45
Hello all, Am still pondering but thats footy!!!

Learmonths Prelim side valued 36 points so higher than both Hep & Dford. Highest points when to Ty Veldhuis (Dford) & Miller (Clunes) 5 points, Leyonjelm 3 points from Nhill Major League. Have a lot of 1 pointers as well Gudge, Wade Veldhuis, Brad Hubble, Tim Sinclair, Dave Wright, Paul Rogan, Jason Duffy, Leon Davey, Jon & Sam BAsham, James Sobey, Powell, Azz Davies, Robertson & Lee. This is due to locals or players like gudge & Wade being there for 3 years.

Congratulations to Hepburn...Best side won the flag!!

Pity about the ground, always windy and crap atmosphere...Bring teh game back to learmonth....Run Busses and crowd would be very similar..+ a better spectacle for all...

Now a long pre-season ahead...............& recruitment ahs already stated...

As for Buninyong not paying.... Your kidding yaself mate..All clubs do so stop denying.

Bunga getting all these Redan players, wernt they doing it last year.. They will get Justin Rumble but will stuggle to get any senior players.. If any they will be 2's players.

Rumors have begun.............Good for footy

So maybe the points system is not the answer. Teams like Bunny who have a high rotation of players, players that actively seek to join the club due to being close to uni, and players who have to leave the club because of finishing uni would be penalised. Maybe the better option would be a CHFL committee that monitors the transfers and clearances in the interests of the CHFL.
For Example McKay & Cox into the CHFL = good thing
Uhi from stuggling Ballan to finals contendor Hepburn = bad thing
Tranquilli to Bunny because he lives there = good thing
[Theretically] Ex AFL player retires to creswick for the new golf course but wants a kick of local footy but goes to Dford instead of Creswick because the money is better = bad thing

and so on.

Congrats to Timmy for his recent responses and willingness to share the great things going on at Hepburn.

Just one question... was Shane19 dropped from the ressies or or is that wannabe walking around with a medal around his neck?

blues1987
18 Sep 2008, 18:49
have heard that phil davis has signed to coach newlyn next year, will his sons be joining him there??

shooter243
18 Sep 2008, 19:46
have heard that phil davis has signed to coach newlyn next year, will his sons be joining him there??

were you present at the rookie of the year award?? because young lachlan shaw was able to confirm it.

pollythefarmer
18 Sep 2008, 19:51
blaaahhh!!!! no not true. not sure of exact figure but think he is on $280 a game which is cheap for a playing assistant coach especially considering the amount of work he puts in.(no money per goal)i know he knocked bach big dollars from dunnstown and some bfl clubs as he lives in the young and had respect for the club when playing for springbank,
he would also be the only one over $200 a game and only about 7 players are on money.as i have stated before buninyong is full of very loyal people and some great home grown talent, that have and will get big dollars thrown at them from other clubs and different leagues. being a great club and being surrounded by people who have come up through the ranks is how we keep our players and attract new ones not with filthy amounts of money.i think it would be wise if you change your name from confusia say to bunninyongs mushroom because it is clear that they keep you in the dark and feed you shit.your club pay good money to players just like most other clubs in the five.Simple fact is bunninyong is good at winning 2s flags year in year out and thats were it ends.

confusia say
18 Sep 2008, 21:18
i would be very interested on your opionions as to who gets how much i need a good laugh and there is f##k all on tv. all i can say is look out if the club every does try and buy a flag.although i can't see that happening as it is not in the clubs chosen direction.

confusia say
18 Sep 2008, 21:21
can anyone tell me results from player of the year

timmy 32
18 Sep 2008, 22:09
Hello all, Am still pondering but thats footy!!!

Learmonths Prelim side valued 36 points so higher than both Hep & Dford. Highest points when to Ty Veldhuis (Dford) & Miller (Clunes) 5 points, Leyonjelm 3 points from Nhill Major League. Have a lot of 1 pointers as well Gudge, Wade Veldhuis, Brad Hubble, Tim Sinclair, Dave Wright, Paul Rogan, Jason Duffy, Leon Davey, Jon & Sam BAsham, James Sobey, Powell, Azz Davies, Robertson & Lee. This is due to locals or players like gudge & Wade being there for 3 years.

Congratulations to Hepburn...Best side won the flag!!

Pity about the ground, always windy and crap atmosphere...Bring teh game back to learmonth....Run Busses and crowd would be very similar..+ a better spectacle for all...

Now a long pre-season ahead...............& recruitment ahs already stated...

As for Buninyong not paying.... Your kidding yaself mate..All clubs do so stop denying.

Bunga getting all these Redan players, wernt they doing it last year.. They will get Justin Rumble but will stuggle to get any senior players.. If any they will be 2's players.

Rumors have begun.............Good for footy
welcome back Learmonth, yeah im not a fan of the points system, prefer the system i mentioned earlier in the year where the top sides from the previous year play each other twice and the bottom teams also play each other twice.
EG.. round 1 2009 would be hep v dfd lear v wau buny v duns bunga v beau new v clu bal v gor cres v spr... some great games .. makes it harder for the top teams playing each other twice and easier for the bottom teams playing each other twice.
It gives the middle sides the incentive to work hard over pre season, knowing they only play the top sides once.. If its true about Bungaree's recruits then they should be right up there, having only to play the middle of the ladder sides of 08 twice.
our first four games next year ( remember its a rotating draw ) are against Clunes Beaufort Creswick Dunnstown..... if they were against the other four top clubs of 08 and we had a couple of early losses, then the pressure starts to mount.
i just think this system is a lot fairer for everyone.
To answer your question dickin cider ( and great name, we all like to be there ).. always dissapointed to lose locals to Daylesford, but a lot left when they wanted to play at a higher level when they were in the BFL.. The dogs had 8 former burra players run out on Saturday.. i will try and answer them individually for you
Cronin.. played reserves for us and left after 2000, his family are Daylesford
Rodgers.. talented player, his old man holds our record number of games with 319. wanted to play at a higher level. you cant deny him his wish. left after 2000, came back then left again after 2003
L Adams.. played here in 1996, only one year won the B & F then went to Nth Brat
Cook.. played in two flags with us.. has always rotated between the two clubs, his age was against him this finals series
Thompson... left after 2000, since thommo we have had Barras, Raak and Cox kick 100, were happy with what we ended up with
K. Cummings.. spent a half of 07 with us, it didn't work out so he went back.. you have to try these things
Jenkin... left after 2000, he would be very handy in our side, family is also a Daylesford one though
Thomas... laft us in 05, and bobbed up at Victoria Park after playing at Melton South

Trooper4
18 Sep 2008, 22:09
heard ballan have signed tommy mullane grant as asst for next year

spoke to tmg last night and he had no idea what i was talking about when i mentioned him going to ballan.... he isnt staying at Bannockburn either, so could well be going back to the GFL.

Dickin Cider
18 Sep 2008, 22:35
welcome back Learmonth, yeah im not a fan of the points system, prefer the system i mentioned earlier in the year where the top sides from the previous year play each other twice and the bottom teams also play each other twice.
EG.. round 1 2009 would be hep v dfd lear v wau buny v duns bunga v beau new v clu bal v gor cres v spr... some great games .. makes it harder for the top teams playing each other twice and easier for the bottom teams playing each other twice.
It gives the middle sides the incentive to work hard over pre season, knowing they only play the top sides once.. If its true about Bungaree's recruits then they should be right up there, having only to play the middle of the ladder sides of 08 twice.
our first four games next year ( remember its a rotating draw ) are against Clunes Beaufort Creswick Dunnstown..... if they were against the other four top clubs of 08 and we had a couple of early losses, then the pressure starts to mount.
i just think this system is a lot fairer for everyone.
To answer your question dickin cider ( and great name, we all like to be there ).. always dissapointed to lose locals to Daylesford, but a lot left when they wanted to play at a higher level when they were in the BFL.. The dogs had 8 former burra players run out on Saturday.. i will try and answer them individually for you
Cronin.. played reserves for us and left after 2000, his family are Daylesford
Rodgers.. talented player, his old man holds our record number of games with 319. wanted to play at a higher level. you cant deny him his wish. left after 2000, came back then left again after 2003
L Adams.. played here in 1996, only one year won the B & F then went to Nth Brat
Cook.. played in two flags with us.. has always rotated between the two clubs, his age was against him this finals series
Thompson... left after 2000, since thommo we have had Barras, Raak and Cox kick 100, were happy with what we ended up with
K. Cummings.. spent a half of 07 with us, it didn't work out so he went back.. you have to try these things
Jenkin... left after 2000, he would be very handy in our side, family is also a Daylesford one though
Thomas... laft us in 05, and bobbed up at Victoria Park after playing at Melton South


Yep, thanks Timmy, wonder how things will pan out over the next few years between the 2 clubs? Cant use the excuse of wanting to play at a higher level and move on to D'ford anymore. Looks like players from both clubs will have to think before they jump ship!
Glad you like the name, as a few of the boys i know say "love to watch it disappear!"
KEEP THE MIND ON FOOTY LADS!!!!

Deledio2Tambling
19 Sep 2008, 02:21
welcome back Learmonth, yeah im not a fan of the points system, prefer the system i mentioned earlier in the year where the top sides from the previous year play each other twice and the bottom teams also play each other twice.


Hmmm that's all well and good but if any of the 'bottom' sides sneak into the finals they will get belted by the top sides. Doesn't really solve anything.

BenBal Plugger
19 Sep 2008, 12:26
Moving to Bendigo in 2009?

Sandhurst Dragons, Bendigo Football League, looking for interested key position players.

Fantastic facilities, team of trainers and dedicated club doctor, strong social club and best ground in central Vic - Bendigo Bombers (VFL) use it, so up to AFL standard.

Send any queries to my mailbox.

Dickin Cider
19 Sep 2008, 14:37
Is there any truth to the rumor that Luke Beattie from Sunbury Lions is taking on the Springbank top job? Apologies if it was announced and posted in pages before.

timmy 32
21 Sep 2008, 01:17
Did T. Saunders get BOG, he was, dominant in the 2's. Andy mac was awesome to watch, Dford did not have a match for him. Have Hepburn had their B&F yet if so can anyone tell me who got what?
Hepburn's B & F was held tonight with Ross Mann winning by 12 votes, had a very consistant year. Lee Cox 2nd two votes clear of Andy McKay. Matt Peake finished 4th.
In the two's Nick Walsh won by 2 votes . Trent Saunders and Matt Layfield equal 2nd.. matt williams 4th

confusia say
21 Sep 2008, 06:54
went to bfl granny ballarat won with a 50m set shot after the final siren ash baker kicked the winning goal to give ballarat the win by 5pts best game of footy i can remember ever watching in the local area, AT won bunny B and f, j morgan 2nd j gilbert 3rd then e donudean, emmo won the 2's by 1 vote over n avery then t porter.

Spent
21 Sep 2008, 23:55
Hmmm that's all well and good but if any of the 'bottom' sides sneak into the finals they will get belted by the top sides. Doesn't really solve anything.


As it seems that the CHFL is paying larger amounts of money to players than most surrounding leagues I think the only way to try to even out the competition is to introduce salary caps. No doubt this is not what players would want’.
I don’t mean the sort of salary cap where the amount is set for the whole team either.
I mean a maximum amount set that any one player can be paid (including fringe benefits). Firstly this will stop clubs luring players with money. Its hard for anyone to knock back the amount of money being offered in some cases, even the most loyal of loyal can be forgiven for being tempted and leaving clubs. Idealy the amount set would be relevent to the league level. Clubs may try to pay cash etc but as it wouldnt be in the contract players would have to risk if they get the extra. Audits would be necessary annually to check for inconsistences and punishment should be high for offences of paying extra.
Travel could also be paid on a km basis along the lines of the tax or travel allowance employees receive, and that same travel money could also paid to volunteers.
This will account for players and volunteers who have the extra expense of travelling.
So basically a great player will receive the same amount no matter who they play for so recruiting would take more than just extra money, clubs would need to sell themselves and the training facilities/staff etc.
All the extra money could be put into recruiting and training umpires, renewing facilities such as drought proofing grounds, updating clubrooms, solar hot water and most importantly the juniors; maybe cover the fee’s as another means of getting players and ensuring cost doesn’t prevent a new legend entering the field.
my two bobs worth

Bdiddy18
22 Sep 2008, 21:58
As it seems that the CHFL is paying larger amounts of money to players than most surrounding leagues I think the only way to try to even out the competition is to introduce salary caps. No doubt this is not what players would want’.
I don’t mean the sort of salary cap where the amount is set for the whole team either.
I mean a maximum amount set that any one player can be paid (including fringe benefits). Firstly this will stop clubs luring players with money. Its hard for anyone to knock back the amount of money being offered in some cases, even the most loyal of loyal can be forgiven for being tempted and leaving clubs. Idealy the amount set would be relevent to the league level. Clubs may try to pay cash etc but as it wouldnt be in the contract players would have to risk if they get the extra. Audits would be necessary annually to check for inconsistences and punishment should be high for offences of paying extra.
Travel could also be paid on a km basis along the lines of the tax or travel allowance employees receive, and that same travel money could also paid to volunteers.
This will account for players and volunteers who have the extra expense of travelling.
So basically a great player will receive the same amount no matter who they play for so recruiting would take more than just extra money, clubs would need to sell themselves and the training facilities/staff etc.
All the extra money could be put into recruiting and training umpires, renewing facilities such as drought proofing grounds, updating clubrooms, solar hot water and most importantly the juniors; maybe cover the fee’s as another means of getting players and ensuring cost doesn’t prevent a new legend entering the field.
my two bobs worth

Mate as much as it sounds like a great idea unfortunately it would be too hard to police. The league just doesn't have the resources to monitor it. And to top things off and the biggest reason of all is CASH, CASH CASH CASH-Cant monitor cash, cash is king

TheGreatBambino
23 Sep 2008, 12:10
Rumor has it that Darley wants Lee Cox back, but i think Darley wont match his salary that he has at hepburn now, everyone is saying hepburn have high match payments.

Andy Mckay would be handy at Bacchus marsh. they need all the help they can get.

finalsfever08
23 Sep 2008, 21:13
Whilst out on Friday night i heard that the Waubra Best and Fairest on was dominated by the full forwards who also took home the goal kicking awards for the night. Luke Molloy in the Reserves (i was told apparently a great effort for someone who didn't hit the training track for the season) and Fridge Brown in the Seniors. Brown took his first ever senior best and fairest award home from Danny Liston who was a deserved runner up. Great to see Fridge finally rewarded. 300 goals in 3 seasons great effort Fridge. :thumbsu:

aaron_barrett1980
26 Sep 2008, 23:12
Hi All, Im from the Gladstone Mudcrabs AFC which is located on the Central QLD coast. I just thought I would jump on here and post our clubs website for you all to check out. We are always after players and have great jobs on offer and can help with relocation. Anyway check out the site it's great and if your looking for a change give us a call. Cheers:)
www.mudcrabs.aflq.com.au (http://www.mudcrabs.aflq.com.au)

joeblow2
27 Sep 2008, 14:46
The Lancefield Football/Netball Club is a close knit family club affiliated in the Riddell District Football League. Having just missed out on finals in 2008 we are looking to take the next step in 2009, and are well set up both on and off the field to do so.

We are currently seeking expressions of interest for season 2009 in the following positions:

* Senior Coach
* Reserves Coach
* Under 18's Coach

Anybody with interest PM me for more details, or email the club at info@lancefieldfc.org.au (info@lancefieldfc.org.au)

walshy15
29 Sep 2008, 16:01
Hepburn's B & F was held tonight with Ross Mann winning by 12 votes, had a very consistant year. Lee Cox 2nd two votes clear of Andy McKay. Matt Peake finished 4th.
In the two's Nick Walsh won by 2 votes . Trent Saunders and Matt Layfield equal 2nd.. matt williams 4th
Walsh did do pretty well to win. What a star. See his mark in the granny??

silkyskills
29 Sep 2008, 16:20
Does anyone have a news about anyone leaving any clubs next year

AxelFoley#5
29 Sep 2008, 16:56
Walsh did do pretty well to win. What a star. See his mark in the granny??

Wonder how many times his old man had a vote card:thumbsu:

DrWho
29 Sep 2008, 21:41
I know how everyone loves to hear my opinons so i wanted to share a recent observation.
With clubs already paying for advertising for coaches etc in readiness for the 2009 season why not throw in an extra line, along the lines of, also seeking club umpires? surely all clubs could use an increased stock of basically trained umps and it might just give someone the incentive or available avenue to give it a try, people who might be a bit unsure about the full on side of being an umpire.....just a thought.

FlyingDucks
30 Sep 2008, 00:02
Rumor has it that Darley wants Lee Cox back, but i think Darley wont match his salary that he has at hepburn now, everyone is saying hepburn have high match payments.

Andy Mckay would be handy at Bacchus marsh. they need all the help they can get.

Hepburn has re-signed all players from their 2008 list according to a person close to this information.

Trooper4
30 Sep 2008, 00:28
From what i know, most have signed on with Bungaree from this year... With Bryce Nicholson now in charge of the Football Department, and between him and Reedy heavily scouting, the club should be looking good...

just a question.. when is everyone starting pre season?
Bungaree go for a camp on November 10th.

aaron_barrett1980
30 Sep 2008, 02:33
Gladstone Mudcrabs AFC are looking for players, check out our website!!!!
www.mudcrabs.aflq.com.au

Off Shore
30 Sep 2008, 14:46
Gladstone Mudcrabs AFC are looking for players, check out our website!!!!
www.mudcrabs.aflq.com.au (http://www.mudcrabs.aflq.com.au)

Shut up Mate

TheGreatBambino
30 Sep 2008, 18:26
Hepburn has re-signed all players from their 2008 list according to a person close to this information.

Ok, Thanks

ryang
30 Sep 2008, 21:17
Hepburn has re-signed all players from their 2008 list according to a person close to this information.

According to a person I know who is also close to this information, i.e; a 2008 senior player, it is not the case at all.

aaron_barrett1980
30 Sep 2008, 21:31
Shut up Mate

Bit uncalled for dont you think, doing my best to strengthen my footy club whats wrong with that. Like I said great club check out our website its all good for Footy mate.
www.mudcrabs.aflq.com.au

Jdawg
30 Sep 2008, 22:24
lol, mudcrabs, how can u call urself a team if your mascot is UN-RESPECTABLE?!!?!
And from what i hear Raak the coach of hepburns reserves is about to be stuffed and mounted in the clubs rooms, he's so old that people think his about to topple in the next breeze like a old oak tree.

Harry HP
1 Oct 2008, 13:38
Bit uncalled for dont you think, doing my best to strengthen my footy club whats wrong with that. Like I said great club check out our website its all good for Footy mate.
www.mudcrabs.aflq.com.au (http://www.mudcrabs.aflq.com.au)

Shut Up Aaron!!!

OldtimeTiger
1 Oct 2008, 21:20
Just wondering if anyone has heard any news on players coming and going? quite a few rumours floating around already.
Big rumour of mckay heading back to the marsh and i have also heard that cox heading to darwin and if he likes that might possibly be heading to cairns...so much for signing iveryone up timmy.... Bungaree also penned some recruits, cummins and rumble from redan. D-town losing up to 10 players from there 1st 18 due to uni and a few heading into the bfl. another interesting one doing the rounds is mullane grant back to ballan...is that confirmed?

timmy 32
2 Oct 2008, 19:19
Just wondering if anyone has heard any news on players coming and going? quite a few rumours floating around already.
Big rumour of mckay heading back to the marsh and i have also heard that cox heading to darwin and if he likes that might possibly be heading to cairns...so much for signing iveryone up timmy.... Bungaree also penned some recruits, cummins and rumble from redan. D-town losing up to 10 players from there 1st 18 due to uni and a few heading into the bfl. another interesting one doing the rounds is mullane grant back to ballan...is that confirmed?
Thats the interesting thing about this time of year, , , rumours , , ,.This time last year Chris Grant was playing with us and we had offered Dan Jordan a fortune! i can tell you the club never spoke to either player ( and im sure someone will write back and say he knows a mate of theirs that can confirm that we did make offers, its all bulls..t, so believe what you want to)...As for Andy and Coxy, we knew that every club would be after them, and the rest of our team, and why wouldn't they? thats why we got in early, we look after our players.
Coxy is heading off to Darwin for some fishing and footy.. in that order i might add.. he told us that a couple of months ago, and he has our blessing.
We got Andy because the Marsh didn't look after him, they still have a lot of rebuilding to do, and obviously they would be trying everything to get him back..no one has mentioned Sam Newton, he comes from there as well and is just as important to us as Andy and Coxy, problem is he is a key backman and doesn't get the headlines like our star twosome.
Our President told a packed house full of supporters in the North Ballarat rooms straight after the Grand Final that we had re signed Robbo and every single player that played seniors that day. We have also signed a heap of the reserves players, not all of them yet. Yes it's possible that a player who has played seniors with us in 08 hasn't signed yet.. never denied that...
But i repeat every one of the Grand Final 22 have re signed... and how do i know? because i actually signed the papers.. so am i a liar.. im talking fact not rumours..next we will be putting in an offer for Ryan O'Keefe
Hope that clears the air about us for the final time, still its interesting to hear the rumour mill and what you had to say. your other comments could be true. keeps people reading

aaron_barrett1980
2 Oct 2008, 23:48
Shut Up Aaron!!!

www.mudcrabs.aflq.com.au (http://www.mudcrabs.aflq.com.au)
;)

aaron_barrett1980
2 Oct 2008, 23:51
lol, mudcrabs, how can u call urself a team if your mascot is UN-RESPECTABLE?!!?!
And from what i hear Raak the coach of hepburns reserves is about to be stuffed and mounted in the clubs rooms, he's so old that people think his about to topple in the next breeze like a old oak tree.

You are a funny funny man!!!

walshy15
3 Oct 2008, 01:18
Wonder how many times his old man had a vote card:thumbsu:

haha messy. don't get too upset. Daylesford??

Fat Mexican
3 Oct 2008, 09:54
Thats the interesting thing about this time of year, , , rumours , , ,.This time last year Chris Grant was playing with us and we had offered Dan Jordan a fortune! i can tell you the club never spoke to either player ( and im sure someone will write back and say he knows a mate of theirs that can confirm that we did make offers, its all bulls..t, so believe what you want to)...As for Andy and Coxy, we knew that every club would be after them, and the rest of our team, and why wouldn't they? thats why we got in early, we look after our players.
Coxy is heading off to Darwin for some fishing and footy.. in that order i might add.. he told us that a couple of months ago, and he has our blessing.
We got Andy because the Marsh didn't look after him, they still have a lot of rebuilding to do, and obviously they would be trying everything to get him back..no one has mentioned Sam Newton, he comes from there as well and is just as important to us as Andy and Coxy, problem is he is a key backman and doesn't get the headlines like our star twosome.
Our President told a packed house full of supporters in the North Ballarat rooms straight after the Grand Final that we had re signed Robbo and every single player that played seniors that day. We have also signed a heap of the reserves players, not all of them yet. Yes it's possible that a player who has played seniors with us in 08 hasn't signed yet.. never denied that...
But i repeat every one of the Grand Final 22 have re signed... and how do i know? because i actually signed the papers.. so am i a liar.. im talking fact not rumours..next we will be putting in an offer for Ryan O'Keefe
Hope that clears the air about us for the final time, still its interesting to hear the rumour mill and what you had to say. your other comments could be true. keeps people reading
Timmy not doubting that you have signed everyone but if what you say is accurate (all 22 senior players and some reserve players have signed contracts) then I would applaud you as being one of, if not the most professional club in country footy.

In all my years of involvement in footy (player, committee member, treasurer) the most players I have seen sign contracts at any club would be 15 and most of them would have been getting some coin. Maybe times have changed since I was involved in the CHFL.

timmy 32
3 Oct 2008, 22:35
Timmy not doubting that you have signed everyone but if what you say is accurate (all 22 senior players and some reserve players have signed contracts) then I would applaud you as being one of, if not the most professional club in country footy.

In all my years of involvement in footy (player, committee member, treasurer) the most players I have seen sign contracts at any club would be 15 and most of them would have been getting some coin. Maybe times have changed since I was involved in the CHFL.
Times have changed mexican man, you only have to watch the top 5 sides this year to see that. Look in all seriousness clubs work so hard in the off season to recruit and develop their ( hopefully ) next premiership side. We were lucky enough to have a very strong list, so its only natural that we want to keep them... good players are too hard to replace..if you have them why not do what you can to keep them.
Sometimes its pot luck regarding recruits. how many times do clubs pin their hopes on their big name signing, and by June he turns out to be a dud. But you just hope that he is only one game away from tearing the opposition apart. We have been there as have all other clubs and it's not much fun.

Spent
3 Oct 2008, 23:28
Has the league progressed at all in the last 4years with the scapping of clearances unless contracted?

Freak Dodgeball Accident
4 Oct 2008, 13:59
Sometimes its pot luck regarding recruits. how many times do clubs pin their hopes on their big name signing, and by June he turns out to be a dud. But you just hope that he is only one game away from tearing the opposition apart. We have been there as have all other clubs and it's not much fun.

Go on, just say his name... Greg Seiz.

dr evil
4 Oct 2008, 13:59
from what i know, most have signed on with bungaree from this year... With bryce nicholson now in charge of the football department, and between him and reedy heavily scouting, the club should be looking good...

Just a question.. When is everyone starting pre season?
Bungaree go for a camp on november 10th.

early start early finish {wankers }

dr evil
4 Oct 2008, 14:08
Has the league progressed at all in the last 4years with the scapping of clearances unless contracted?
QAULITY PLAYERS ARE HARD TO FIND UNLESS YOU HAVE HUGE AMOUNTS LIKE THE PIG FARMER .A FEW YEARS AGO YOU COULD GET A PLAYER FRON SEBAS OR POINT .POINT FOLDED SEBAS GOT NOTHING eastpoint reseves think there champions

sheen of queeba
4 Oct 2008, 15:31
Good to see Phil Davis coaching out at Newlyn. Newlyn will struggle to recruit with him at the helm. I know when Daylesford approached ballarat based players last year and they were told phil was still coaching, the players were not interested at all because of his one view style which had spread through the traps. His way or the highway. Really rubbed a few people up the wrong way and they ended up leaving the dogs. Will still help them improve a fair bit though. But good luck recruiting. Good to see you gave coxxy permission to go fishing timmy 32. Just make sure he his home in bed in time for his curfew and tucked in nicely ok.

pollythefarmer
4 Oct 2008, 21:07
Good to see Phil Davis coaching out at Newlyn. Newlyn will struggle to recruit with him at the helm. I know when Daylesford approached ballarat based players last year and they were told phil was still coaching, the players were not interested at all because of his one view style which had spread through the traps. His way or the highway. Really rubbed a few people up the wrong way and they ended up leaving the dogs. Will still help them improve a fair bit though. But good luck recruiting. Good to see you gave coxxy permission to go fishing timmy 32. Just make sure he his home in bed in time for his curfew and tucked in nicely ok.if i was you i would not worry about coxy,you would be better off making sure you have a team next year,word is springbank is topping up with a few of your best players.also that you are in the red again who will bail you out this time?Already bagging your last coach (deja vu)tuff year ahead for you i would suggest,MCDFL is getting your clearance form ready for 2010

timmy 32
5 Oct 2008, 02:26
Good to see Phil Davis coaching out at Newlyn. Newlyn will struggle to recruit with him at the helm. I know when Daylesford approached ballarat based players last year and they were told phil was still coaching, the players were not interested at all because of his one view style which had spread through the traps. His way or the highway. Really rubbed a few people up the wrong way and they ended up leaving the dogs. Will still help them improve a fair bit though. But good luck recruiting. Good to see you gave coxxy permission to go fishing timmy 32. Just make sure he his home in bed in time for his curfew and tucked in nicely ok.
Hey freak, seizy kicked over 80 goals in 2006, most clubs would love that, not talking about him.
Sheen ... why bag out your PREMIERSHIP COACH, this time last year he was the the massiah of football. as usual you turn on your own whenever they decide to leave. Good luck to him at Newlyn, maybe they might respect him in years to come

Deledio2Tambling
5 Oct 2008, 13:59
Hey freak, seizy kicked over 80 goals in 2006, most clubs would love that, not talking about him.
Sheen ... why bag out your PREMIERSHIP COACH, this time last year he was the the massiah of football. as usual you turn on your own whenever they decide to leave. Good luck to him at Newlyn, maybe they might respect him in years to come

No disrespect, but at a guess Seiz would have only kicked the majority of his goals (lets say 50-60 of them) against cellar dwellers wouldn't he?

Deledio2Tambling
5 Oct 2008, 14:06
Just looked it up.

Against the bottom 4 sides, Seiz kicked 38 goals in total.
Against the other finals sides, he kicked 13 goals in total.

Make of that what you will.

chfl_fan5
5 Oct 2008, 16:56
if i was you i would not worry about coxy,you would be better off making sure you have a team next year,word is springbank is topping up with a few of your best players.also that you are in the red again who will bail you out this time?Already bagging your last coach (deja vu)tuff year ahead for you i would suggest,MCDFL is getting your clearance form ready for 2010
Any confirmed names heading to springbank? I heard there would be some money spent out there this year. Anyone got any other goss from the lower sides? What are Creswick, Gordon & Clunes doing to be competitive this year? Will Creswick dump their coach after a dissapointing year? A close competetion is a good one.

sheen of queeba
6 Oct 2008, 08:51
if i was you i would not worry about coxy,you would be better off making sure you have a team next year,word is springbank is topping up with a few of your best players.also that you are in the red again who will bail you out this time?Already bagging your last coach (deja vu)tuff year ahead for you i would suggest,MCDFL is getting your clearance form ready for 2010

You would know wouldn't you clown. Love to know who is going to springbank next year, thats right its the adams boys coaching them. you must be in the know. don't know about being in the red, but how about you buy a membership, get yourself to the agm in 3 weeks and see whats happening there. Couldn't see us being that bad though as we don't really spend that much on recruits and they do show how much we spend on the players at the agm. Might tell a different story, but you do seem to have all the right answers so your probably right... again. No bagging of the last coach, just telling it like it is and unless you were there when he was you would have no idea. Already heard newlyn are struggling to get some players. Timmy 32, i would say he is still respected by the boys he did coach last year, i wasn't one of them but i did see alot of what happened.

darryl 23
7 Oct 2008, 11:09
[QUOTE=sheen of queeba;12701007]Good to see Phil Davis coaching

:confused:Is this the same Phil Davis who coached Grovedale in the Geelong Football League in the early '80s?

FULLOS
15 Oct 2008, 17:04
Hi peoples,

New to Big Footy, thought i'd join as this thread has been a bit quiet over the past week, surely there would be a few rumours floating around about who is going where? leaving? coaching and so on?

ROOSTER1
16 Oct 2008, 03:22
Hey freak, seizy kicked over 80 goals in 2006, most clubs would love that, not talking about him.
Sheen ... why bag out your PREMIERSHIP COACH, this time last year he was the the massiah of football. as usual you turn on your own whenever they decide to leave. Good luck to him at Newlyn, maybe they might respect him in years to come



Timmy are you still looking for recruits or are you happy with the side you already have signed?!!!
Im sure there isn't much cash left in the bank!

jbird55
16 Oct 2008, 13:43
Good to see Phil Davis coaching out at Newlyn. Newlyn will struggle to recruit with him at the helm. I know when Daylesford approached ballarat based players last year and they were told phil was still coaching, the players were not interested at all because of his one view style which had spread through the traps. His way or the highway. Really rubbed a few people up the wrong way and they ended up leaving the dogs. Will still help them improve a fair bit though. But good luck recruiting. Good to see you gave coxxy permission to go fishing timmy 32. Just make sure he his home in bed in time for his curfew and tucked in nicely ok.
Is this the same Phil Davis who coached at AJAX down in the Ammos.

AxelFoley#5
16 Oct 2008, 14:24
Is this the same Phil Davis who coached at AJAX down in the Ammos.

Sure is

timmy 32
17 Oct 2008, 18:45
Timmy are you still looking for recruits or are you happy with the side you already have signed?!!!
Im sure there isn't much cash left in the bank!
Cash not a problem Rooster. We actually finished the season with more money than we started, thanks to a warm Grand Final, bumper crowd and many drinkers giving our bar sales a huge boost.
I doubt you will see us figuring promenently on the CHFL transfers list this pre season. Not actually recruiting, will be giving our young Reserves Premiership side and our U/18s that are stepping up every oppertunity to break into the side if they are good enough and are willing to put the work required in.
We inquired about one, but he had already re signed with his club. We have recieved a few calls from players who have been interested in checking the club out. If the player fits the position that we may require then of course we will try and persuade him to play with us...
That all might sound big headed, but that was the plan the club put in place way back in 2001. We will just keep working hard to ensure we are part of the finals again in 2009.... only time will tell

chfl_fan5
17 Oct 2008, 21:34
Cash not a problem Rooster. We actually finished the season with more money than we started, thanks to a warm Grand Final, bumper crowd and many drinkers giving our bar sales a huge boost.
I doubt you will see us figuring promenently on the CHFL transfers list this pre season. Not actually recruiting, will be giving our young Reserves Premiership side and our U/18s that are stepping up every oppertunity to break into the side if they are good enough and are willing to put the work required in.
We inquired about one, but he had already re signed with his club. We have recieved a few calls from players who have been interested in checking the club out. If the player fits the position that we may require then of course we will try and persuade him to play with us...
That all might sound big headed, but that was the plan the club put in place way back in 2001. We will just keep working hard to ensure we are part of the finals again in 2009.... only time will tell

I hear Hepburn were involved in yet another brawl on the weekend, this time with a bikey gang, lucky you have a full list already, can't imagine two many players who would want to be part of that sort of community. Your team may be successfully timmy but it will never be a great club, one to be admired until you get the off field stuff sorted.

timmy 32
18 Oct 2008, 00:10
I hear Hepburn were involved in yet another brawl on the weekend, this time with a bikey gang, lucky you have a full list already, can't imagine two many players who would want to be part of that sort of community. Your team may be successfully timmy but it will never be a great club, one to be admired until you get the off field stuff sorted.
get your facts right drop kick. not us but our Grand Final opponents were involved. your apology is accepted!!!!

sheen of queeba
18 Oct 2008, 12:56
get your facts right drop kick. not us but our Grand Final opponents were involved. your apology is accepted!!!!
So its the AFL now where everyone that plays football is under the spot light 24 / 7, twelve months of the year and when something happens its 'those footballers'. When someone gets smashed over the head with a stubby i am pretty sure you're allowed to defend yourself, wouldn't you think so timmy??? good to see that all of those local kids will get their oppurtunity next year also. Hopefully im around to see it

timmy 32
18 Oct 2008, 13:19
So its the AFL now where everyone that plays football is under the spot light 24 / 7, twelve months of the year and when something happens its 'those footballers'. When someone gets smashed over the head with a stubby i am pretty sure you're allowed to defend yourself, wouldn't you think so timmy??? good to see that all of those local kids will get their oppurtunity next year also. Hopefully im around to see it
agree with what you say.( from what i know it was only a minor incident ) i was just stating that Hepburn wasn't involved and he had his info completley wrong, as was reported by CHFL fan ... i dont see the problem there??? wouldn't you do the same if the allegations were pointed towards your club?

chfl_fan5
19 Oct 2008, 11:51
get your facts right drop kick. not us but our Grand Final opponents were involved. your apology is accepted!!!!

I had a reliable source, although they are not a football fan themself so may not have known the difference, apology made.

walshy15
19 Oct 2008, 22:16
I hear Hepburn were involved in yet another brawl on the weekend, this time with a bikey gang, lucky you have a full list already, can't imagine two many players who would want to be part of that sort of community. Your team may be successfully timmy but it will never be a great club, one to be admired until you get the off field stuff sorted.

When have hepburn been involved in a brawl since the dunnstown incident all those years ago hey champ??

DfordDog
21 Oct 2008, 11:24
When have hepburn been involved in a brawl since the dunnstown incident all those years ago hey champ??

Hahaha are u serious? Forgot the incident at Hepburn pub before the 2006 season? You clown.
Dropped for finals again next year? When will you wake it up and move on to a club that will give you opportunity?

rexxy
21 Oct 2008, 15:21
Is Luke Beattie from Sunbury coaching Daylesford next year???