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crows98
24 May 2006, 14:40
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Crows sign Broken Hill junior
The Adelaide Football Club has signed its first AFL NSW Scholarship player, 16-year-old Taylor Walker from North Broken Hill Football Club.
Taylor is a 186cm key position player who has been a junior NSW state representative and a member of Broken Hill representative teams.
Adelaide Football Club recruiting manager James Fantasia believes that the AFL’s new NSW scholarship program is a unique and exciting opportunity for young footballers in the NSW regions.
“Taylor was able to present himself very well throughout the selection process and we believe that he has a unique opportunity to further his development with additional resources and support from our experienced coaching staff,” Fantasia said.
“Taylor is very excited about the scholarship and being an avid Adelaide Football Club supporter, has been pinching himself with the thought of running around the track with some of his idols.”
NSW Talent Manager Darren Denneman said: “It’s fantastic for Taylor Walker,” he said. “He recently appeared at the Burke Green Cup, which is a regional challenge event, and he really dominated. It was great to see the Adelaide Football Club there and I’m confident his footy will continue to develop.”
The scholarship program will start in January 2007 and provides an opportunity for those selected to receive additional development support from their respective AFL clubs. In the event that the player’s development warrants a spot on the club’s rookie or senior list after their 18th year, the club will have the option of including the player on to one of these lists without him having to enter the national draft.
Walker will continue to live and play in Broken Hill. The Adelaide Football Club will provide local support, monitor his progress and arrange regular visits to Adelaide for training and development.
Adelaide has one more NSW scholarship place available and intends to use it, Fantasia said.
Crowked
24 May 2006, 14:57
good luck to the lad
Excellent news , not only for the lad but also football in general
Good to see he is a Crows supporter :)
And a KPP...go Walker! :thumbsu:
Stiffy_18
24 May 2006, 15:24
Great news and best of luck to the lad :thumbsu:
Being an avid Crows fan is another plus :D
I haven't followed this closely but from the last couple of sentences am I right in assuming that this is sort of like a zoning system where we develop a player for a couple of years and if he is good enough to be drafted we can select him either to the rookie list or senoir list without giving up draft picks or players for him?
Hopefully the kid can develop into a quality AFL player but at 186 cm he would is a touch short for KPP. Hopefully he can grow a bit more over the 193 cm mark.
Southerntakeover
24 May 2006, 15:25
Sounds great.
Im not sure what the deal is with this scholarship though, what exactly is the kids relationship to the club now?
Capitalist
24 May 2006, 15:31
Good to see he is a Crows supporter :)
And a KPP...go Walker! :thumbsu:
Taylor is a 186cm key position player
thank god he is only 16 - will need a few more cms to be an AFL KPP
I have to say I don't know why the AFL doesn't throw the whole country open for things like this instead of having just NSW involved
Stiffy_18
24 May 2006, 15:33
Sounds great.
Im not sure what the deal is with this scholarship though, what exactly is the kids relationship to the club now?
From what I could gather he is our development player. We will provide him with coaching and other stuff to enhance his development and if he is good enough to make the AFL we will have the first dibs on him when he is eligable to enter the draft.
Thats what I think is the deal here.
This is part of the NSW Junior Development scheme.The AFL have determined that kids in NSW need to have another outlet from Rugby ie stealing the kids when they are young to loosen the support at the top
I was initially opposed to the idea and I still have some qualms.
BF thread from June (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=179419&highlight=scholarship)
Link to initial media article June 2005 (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3452057&postcount=1)
Southerntakeover
24 May 2006, 15:37
From what I could gather he is our development player. We will provide him with coaching and other stuff to enhance his development and if he is good enough to make the AFL we will have the first dibs on him when he is eligable to enter the draft.
Thats what I think is the deal here.
Sounds interesting, its got the added bonus that we'll be in close contact with the kid and will be able to guide his development at an earlier age. Defintely a good idea from the AFL.
From what I could gather he is our development player. We will provide him with coaching and other stuff to enhance his development and if he is good enough to make the AFL we will have the first dibs on him when he is eligable to enter the draft.
Thats what I think is the deal here.
From the June article
''The minimum age of the schoolboy apprentices has not been determined. Promising teenagers would be selected by clubs on a first-come-first-served basis. Upon reaching eligibility for the national draft, the club could then take the player as its final pick. ''
Does that mean we must nominate him as final pick in much the same way 3rd round is for Father Son and its a monty...or do we wait to see if he is available??
Stiffy_18
24 May 2006, 15:40
From the June article
''The minimum age of the schoolboy apprentices has not been determined. Promising teenagers would be selected by clubs on a first-come-first-served basis. Upon reaching eligibility for the national draft, the club could then take the player as its final pick. ''
Does that mean we must nominate him as final pick in much the same way 3rd round is for Father Son and its a monty...or do we wait to see if he is available??
Possibly but this bit from the article above kind of contradicts that a bit
The scholarship program will start in January 2007 and provides an opportunity for those selected to receive additional development support from their respective AFL clubs. In the event that the player’s development warrants a spot on the club’s rookie or senior list after their 18th year, the club will have the option of including the player on to one of these lists without him having to enter the national draft.There appears to be a few gray areas already :confused:
Southerntakeover
24 May 2006, 15:45
Possibly but this bit from the article above kind of contradicts that a bit
There appears to be a few gray areas already :confused:
Id assume that means that we nominate before the draft we intend to take our scholarship player, and so therefore hes never really in the draft, in the sense its predetermined.
Stiffy_18
24 May 2006, 15:51
Id assume that means that we nominate before the draft we intend to take our scholarship player, and so therefore hes never really in the draft, in the sense its predetermined.
But what would stop clubs from saying, we want to pick player A as our rookie list selection, even though he is good enough to be picked up by other clubs in the actual draft :confused:
Especially, if as the article above suggests we can sign up 2 players. Then whats stopping us to nominate both of them as rookie list selection even though both might be good enough to go say top 20 in the draft :confused:
I think the idea overall is pretty good. Sure there will be more misses than hits BUT you could strike it lucky and pick up a young Wayne Carey or a young Kozi. I can't help but feel that clubs with strong recruiting networks and great development programs within their footy club will benefit from this more than other clubs.
I think this could really work well for clubs like ours :thumbsu:
Crowked
24 May 2006, 15:55
Just reading about other clubs selections, it appears that the player can be transfered directly to either the primary or rookie list without having to enter the draft. Thats how I read it anyway. Have a look at these two.
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=printerfriendly&spg=default&articleid=267618
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=printerfriendly&spg=default&articleid=267618
Crowked
24 May 2006, 15:56
and this one
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=printerfriendly&spg=default&articleid=262490
Stiffy_18
24 May 2006, 16:15
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238193
Wayne's World started a thread on this a while ago. There are FAQ about this program. It just seems like a good opportunity to develop players in the NSW region and well run clubs with good recruiting network and development programs will benefit from this.
I could really see thins being of great benefit to us as a footy club.
Capitalist
24 May 2006, 16:18
But what would stop clubs from saying, we want to pick player A as our rookie list selection, even though he is good enough to be picked up by other clubs in the actual draft :confused:
Especially, if as the article above suggests we can sign up 2 players. Then whats stopping us to nominate both of them as rookie list selection even though both might be good enough to go say top 20 in the draft :confused:
I think the idea overall is pretty good. Sure there will be more misses than hits BUT you could strike it lucky and pick up a young Wayne Carey or a young Kozi. I can't help but feel that clubs with strong recruiting networks and great development programs within their footy club will benefit from this more than other clubs.
I think this could really work well for clubs like ours :thumbsu:
yes we seem to be having difficulty trying to spead all our money at this point :D
anways seems like a good theory, the biggest problem is that these NSW stars don;t get to play in their state so it doesn't really impact those youngsters who want to play AFL - it basically means that if your good at AFL your going interstate. All of these rookies should be put in a team and play in the NSW comp until they can be listed
Stiffy_18
24 May 2006, 16:22
I do have a quiestion?
Are these 1 or 2 scolarship spots per year or is it a case of you picking up a couple of players and you are "stuck" with them until they are eligable for the draft?
Crowked
24 May 2006, 16:24
I do have a quiestion?
Are these 1 or 2 scolarship spots per year or is it a case of you picking up a couple of players and you are "stuck" with them until they are eligable for the draft?
In all the stories Ive read its said 2 per year.
Stiffy_18
24 May 2006, 16:25
In all the stories Ive read its said 2 per year.
Sweet :thumbsu:
Crow-mo
24 May 2006, 19:47
"Taylor is a 186cm key position player "
anyone else raise an eyebrow at this?
otherwise, good luck to the kid
just maybe
24 May 2006, 19:52
Expect to see him on the park this year. Good quality kid, might bring him in against Essendon. Expect goals.
Wayne's-World
24 May 2006, 20:09
I haven't followed this closely but from the last couple of sentences am I right in assuming that this is sort of like a zoning system where we develop a player for a couple of years and if he is good enough to be drafted we can select him either to the rookie list or senoir list without giving up draft picks or players for him?
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Don't you read my Threads ? :cool:
crowsarethebest
24 May 2006, 21:25
Good luck to him. Hopefully this program will bring more stars to the game.
Stiffy_18
25 May 2006, 00:52
"Taylor is a 186cm key position player "
anyone else raise an eyebrow at this?
otherwise, good luck to the kid
Yeah it did with me but he is still only 16 so there is a fair chance that his projected height is in the 190cm+ range.
If he makes it, I have first dibs on the nickname. Taylor "The Texas Ranger" Walker :o
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Stiffy_18
25 May 2006, 00:53
Don't you read my Threads ? :cool:
Meh :D
:p
I did read it briefly but not in as much detail as I did today. Top thread that :thumbsu:
I even provided a link to it in this thread :cool:
crackerjack4000
25 May 2006, 01:08
i am a little worried that our club tends to go for the 186cm 'key position' player. I know that 194cm players dont grow on trees and you have to have the talent, but its doubtful at 16 and 186cm that hes going to get to the 192cm range. Its a great opportunity for him nevertheless.
i am a little worried that our club tends to go for the 186cm 'key position' player. I know that 194cm players dont grow on trees and you have to have the talent, but its doubtful at 16 and 186cm that hes going to get to the 192cm range. Its a great opportunity for him nevertheless.I disagree. Most males tend to grow more in their later teen years
crackerjack4000
25 May 2006, 01:19
I disagree. Most males tend to grow more in their later teen years
comparatively to females yes. You will only expect 1-2 cm max after they hit 17 i would suggest. So we're asking for about 5 cm in a yr? Might be pushing it.
James23
25 May 2006, 01:24
if this guy developed into a potential superstar, i would bet alot of money on the AFL taking him away from us
Crowked
25 May 2006, 08:48
James Hird is 188cm.
Not that James is a fulltime KPP, but he has occasionaly played CHF and FF very effectively.
My point is, a 186cm KPP at junior level could be anything and his height shouldnt be seen as a reason not to select him.
According to Fanta, he is a very flexible and adaptable player. Who knows he could end up an onballer or maybe a bit of a utility. Lets wait and see.
One thing is for sure, he's very talented. He apparently has represnted at state level in other sports too. Fanta mentioned basketball as one of them.
Capitalist
25 May 2006, 10:44
if this guy developed into a potential superstar, i would bet alot of money on the AFL taking him away from us
actually I really believe this is a possibility - especially if 1 club develops a few players on the trot - some sort os equalisation will occur :mad:
crackerjack4000
25 May 2006, 10:48
James Hird is 188cm.
Not that James is a fulltime KPP, but he has occasionaly played CHF and FF very effectively.
My point is, a 186cm KPP at junior level could be anything and his height shouldnt be seen as a reason not to select him.
According to Fanta, he is a very flexible and adaptable player. Who knows he could end up an onballer or maybe a bit of a utility. Lets wait and see.
One thing is for sure, he's very talented. He apparently has represnted at state level in other sports too. Fanta mentioned basketball as one of them.
yeah i think the talent bit plays a big role with hird. Should be interesting to see if he'll make it. The crows can put their best work and development into him and see what they can do. Starting professionally at that young age has to have some sort of advantage compared to the rest.
Porthos
25 May 2006, 15:53
I can't help but think that an SA club signing someone from Broken Hill is kind of cheating. I hope we do it.
crows98
25 May 2006, 16:18
I can't help but think that an SA club signing someone from Broken Hill is kind of cheating. I hope we do it.
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Wayne's-World
25 May 2006, 20:53
I can't help but think that an SA club signing someone from Broken Hill is kind of cheating. I hope we do it.
Thinking the same thing - Broken hill has been a good recruiting area...Dean Soloman is from there and it's more developed AFL wise than other parts of NSW.
Quite cleaver really to zero in on Broken Hill...well done Crows :thumbsu:
macca23
25 May 2006, 21:12
Thinking the same thing - Broken hill has been a good recruiting area...Dean Soloman is from there and it's more developed AFL wise than other parts of NSW.
Quite cleaver really to zero in on Broken Hill...well done Crows :thumbsu:
And clever as well WW!! :thumbsu: :p
Rucci has been carrying on like a pork chop about the AFC lying, and used as an example that the AFC gave him the wrong name of a kid from NSW that they were trying to sign up under this initiative.
Hello Michelangelo!! Sure, we'll give you the correct list each year of our planned draft picks as well so that you can publish them in the daily rag. :rolleyes:
Very clever of the club to choose somebody from an Aussie Rules playing remote town in NSW, when the other clubs probably concentrated their activities around the Sydney metroplitan area.
I like the comments of that Port Adelaide diehard, Porthos, when he said
"I can't help but think that an SA club signing someone from Broken Hill is kind of cheating. I hope we do it." :D
Wayne's-World
25 May 2006, 21:42
And clever as well WW!! :thumbsu: :p
Rucci has been carrying on like a pork chop about the AFC lying, and used as an example that the AFC gave him the wrong name of a kid from NSW that they were trying to sign up under this initiative.
Hello Michelangelo!! Sure, we'll give you the correct list each year of our planned draft picks as well so that you can publish them in the daily rag. :rolleyes:
Very clever of the club to choose somebody from an Aussie Rules playing remote town in NSW, when the other clubs probably concentrated their activities around the Sydney metroplitan area.
I like the comments of that Port Adelaide diehard, Porthos, when he said
"I can't help but think that an SA club signing someone from Broken Hill is kind of cheating. I hope we do it." :D
Just exactly WHY would even think that he was going to be given the correct name.?
Like most new initiatives there are some that exploit the opportunities B4 the loopholes are closed....the 10 year rule with Nth Melb as an example.
Hopefully Adelaide have exploited a loophole