View Full Version : Parkin, Brittain, O Sullivan, Elliot and the AFL
Louie22
26 May 2006, 13:34
David Parkin, Wayne Brittain, Shane O Sullivan, John Elliot, and the AFL are all responsible for our demise.
David Parkin and Wayne Brittain - Left the club with a shocking list failed to rebuild
Shane O Sullivan - Was he on drugs when recruiting manager for our club
Pick 7 Massie
pick 7 Vance
Pick 4 Livingstone
There are many other players
John Elliot - enough has been said
The AFL - To harsh with our penaties compared to Essendon and Melbourne when they cheated the salary cap and the penaties has cost us 5 years.
We must stick with Denis Pagan has been judged harshly considering the circumstances. On white Line Fever the other night Caroline Wilson yet again forgets the facts and knocking Pagan and our club '' Its been a disaster for Pagan his win/loss record at Carlton.
Lets Judge Denis Pagan After 2008 when he has had picks in the draft.
John Nicholls was spot on in the Hearld Sun Article today.
darren waitee
26 May 2006, 13:42
Fully agree
Caroline wilson is nothing but a second rate reporter that would be lucky to write for the shep times always has a shot at carlton with never any facts to back up her stories if she was the only woman left on earth you would rather do it with a sheep
celtic_pride
26 May 2006, 17:13
It's not so much as Brittain's recruiting (he was only headcoach for a couple of years) but Parkin's. He kept trading our early picks for recycled hacks like Mansfield, Mcguane, O'Reiley etc and yet he seems to have escaped blame for our current problems. Pagan may not be coaching well at the moment, but he sure inherited a pretty poor list.
linchpin
26 May 2006, 17:32
I must be the only Blues supporter who likes Caro?
I think she writes some good material. I don't worry to much about the negative stuff. Alot have bias's we know. But it's good to get a different perspective at times.
As for Britts....I would not blame him in the slightest. He was the scapegoat remember!
iluvparis
26 May 2006, 20:21
Fully agree
Caroline wilson is nothing but a second rate reporter that would be lucky to write for the shep times always has a shot at carlton with never any facts to back up her stories if she was the only woman left on earth you would rather do it with a sheep
ROFL - absolute classic :thumbsu:
God I hate Caro - possibly the worst journalist in the history of football.
Blue Boyz
26 May 2006, 22:51
David Parkin, Wayne Brittain, Shane O Sullivan, John Elliot, and the AFL are all responsible for our demise.
David Parkin and Wayne Brittain - Left the club with a shocking list failed to rebuild
Shane O Sullivan - Was he on drugs when recruiting manager for our club
Pick 7 Massie
pick 7 Vance
Pick 4 Livingstone
There are many other players
John Elliot - enough has been said
The AFL - To harsh with our penaties compared to Essendon and Melbourne when they cheated the salary cap and the penaties has cost us 5 years.
We must stick with Denis Pagan has been judged harshly considering the circumstances. On white Line Fever the other night Caroline Wilson yet again forgets the facts and knocking Pagan and our club '' Its been a disaster for Pagan his win/loss record at Carlton.
Lets Judge Denis Pagan After 2008 when he has had picks in the draft.
John Nicholls was spot on in the Hearld Sun Article today.
Louie (or anyone else who read it) as I couldn't find a copy today's HS in Japan, could please paraphrase what Big Nick said about the Blues.
Thanks in advance.
avid blue supporter
26 May 2006, 23:53
David Parkin, Wayne Brittain, Shane O Sullivan, John Elliot, and the AFL are all responsible for our demise.
David Parkin and Wayne Brittain - Left the club with a shocking list failed to rebuild
Shane O Sullivan - Was he on drugs when recruiting manager for our club
Pick 7 Massie
pick 7 Vance
Pick 4 Livingstone
There are many other players
John Elliot - enough has been said
The AFL - To harsh with our penaties compared to Essendon and Melbourne when they cheated the salary cap and the penaties has cost us 5 years.
We must stick with Denis Pagan has been judged harshly considering the circumstances. On white Line Fever the other night Caroline Wilson yet again forgets the facts and knocking Pagan and our club '' Its been a disaster for Pagan his win/loss record at Carlton.
Lets Judge Denis Pagan After 2008 when he has had picks in the draft.
John Nicholls was spot on in the Hearld Sun Article today.
Spot on, I fully agree with you. Pagan inherited a list full of crap and then copped a load od s**t from Demitiou and his mates at the AFL. Name another coach that could have done better with what he has got.:thumbsu:
I must be the only Blues supporter who likes Caro?
I think she writes some good material. I don't worry to much about the negative stuff. Alot have bias's we know. But it's good to get a different perspective at times.
As for Britts....I would not blame him in the slightest. He was the scapegoat remember!
Your in a strange and lonley place with that one tiger. Is that you Robert Walls ?
TheBlueblood
27 May 2006, 00:41
britain was stiff imo due to injuries and politics.. caro is an idiot
Chodders
27 May 2006, 02:53
Louie (or anyone else who read it) as I couldn't find a copy today's HS in Japan, could please paraphrase what Big Nick said about the Blues.
Thanks in advance.
Basically Nicols came out and said that the previous administration was to blame for the financial problems because of the decisions they made such as building the legends stand and that Parkin took his eye off the ball after 95 and didn't recruit properly. He also said that he thought Collins started to get the club on the right track and he supported the current administration and stated that the whole club and its supporters needed to get behind Pagan.
Aussie Joe
27 May 2006, 03:12
O'Sullivan will go down as the worst recruiting manager in Carlton history. He is the one, along with Parkin, who put us in the hole. That guy wouldn't know a good young player if he step over one.
Spot on, I fully agree with you. Pagan inherited a list full of crap and then copped a load od s**t from Demitiou and his mates at the AFL. Name another coach that could have done better with what he has got.:thumbsu:
One coach who would have dome much better is the real Denis Pagan. He has allowed the circumstances to get the better of him. Like many of our senior players he has lost instict when placed under extreme pressure.
Still think he is the guy to take us forward. However he needs to go much deeper into himself and truly find his gift again.
For what it is worth I think Roos and even Worsfold may have done better. Not saying that they have more wisdom than Denis but appear more balanced in their personalities.