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Was watching an Oasis special the other day and the guy said that Oasis were great but no where near as good as the Bealtes. He said that still today the Beatles is the only band where most people can name all the members. He had a good point...
Everyone knows the 4 Bealtes names, well a bloody good percentage of people but i struggle with other huge bands..
U2 - Bono, Edge and ?? I dont even know Bono's and Edge's real names.
The Beach Boys - Brian Wilson, Carl Wison, Mike Love and there were some more Wilsons??
The Rolling Stones - Mick Jagger, Keith Richards....
Limp Bizkit - Fred Durst then who?
NIN - Trent Reznor and ??
Oasis - Noel and Liam Gallagher, Bonehead, Guigsy real names escape me though..
Garbage - Shirley Manson, what are the three dudes called..
Powderfinger - Bernard Fanning and ??
Metallica - Lars Ulrich and James Hetfield
REM - Michael Stipe and ??
I cant name any of the Chilli Peppers...
So a lot of big bands in todays world and of the past i cant name all of there members. I can name all of the members of course of my favourite bands like Jebs, Chair, etc but everybody seems to know John Paul George and Ringo.
Why? Prolly cos there music is simple the best..
Pessimistic
9 Jan 2002, 09:05
The beatles were one of the first 'boy bands' right ?
I can name all the spice girls
Or Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Titch
Ill think of some more
Can't believe you can't name Bono, the Edge, Adam Clayton and Larry Mullen Jr.
Or Neil Finn, Nick Seymour and Paul Hester (admittedly that's not everyone who ever played for Crowded House).
But it is a good point all the same.
Danny Chook Fan Club
9 Jan 2002, 10:19
The point is valid.
I can name all the members of numerous bands (jod, Guigsy - Paul McGuigan, Bonehead - Paul Arthurs), as I'm sure many people can.
But the bands I know all the members of will differ from yours. I can tell you who is in Oasis, Stereophonics, Crowded House, whatever, but I'd have no idea on who the blokes are in Powderfinger, Radiohead, Limp Biskit, whoever.
The point is that I would imagine that almost everyone with a reasonable smattering of intelligence and awareness of popular culture could name all of the Beatles.
I don't think there's another group of musicians who can be put in that category.
Korn - Jon, Dave, Head, Munky, Fieldy, real names Jon Davis, Dave Silveria, Brian Welch, James Schaefer, Reginald Arvizu
Limp Bizkit - Fred Durst, Wes Borland but he left - no replacement left, John Otto on the drums, DJ Lethal on the turntables, Sam Rivers on bass
NIN - Trent Reznor, Charlie Clouser, Danny Lohner, Robin Fink, Jerome Dillon
Machine Head - Robb Flynn, Ahrue, Adam Duce, Dave
Amen - Casey Chaos, Sonny Mayo, Tumor, Larkin
Grinspoon - Phil, Pat, Kristian, Joe
Coal Chamber - Rayna *mmm*, Dez, Meegs, Mike
Fear Factory - Burton C Bell, Christian Olde Wolbers, Dino Cazares, Raymond Herrera
Slipknot - #1 - Joey, #2 - Paul, #3 - Chris, #4 - James, #5 - Craig, #6 - Shawn, #7 - Mick, #8 - Corey Taylor, #0 - Sid
System Of A Down - Serj tankien, Daron Malakian, Shavo, John
Mudvayne - Kud, Ryknow, Guurg, Spag
Pantera - Phil Anselmo, Dimebag Darrel, Vinnie Paul
Marilyn Manson - Manson, Twiggy Ramirez, John5, M W Gacy, Ginger Fish
Drain STH: Martina, Flavia, Anna, Maria
RATM - Chris Cornell, Tim, Brad, Tom Morello
Spineshank - Johnny Santos, Souren, Rob, Tom
Taproot - Stephen, Mike, Phil, Jarrod
Prodigy - Liam Howlett, Keith Flint, Maxim Reality (former member: Leeroy Thornhill. Live members: Gizz Butt, Shrky, Gizz Butt, Jim Davies)
Thats off the top of my head.....if i wanted to sit here longer and think about it i could come up with about 15 more bands i think
Originally posted by Macca19
Korn - Jon, Dave, Head, Munky, Fieldy, real names Jon Davis, Dave Silveria, Brian Welch, James Schaefer, Reginald Arvizu
Limp Bizkit - Fred Durst, Wes Borland but he left - no replacement left, John Otto on the drums, DJ Lethal on the turntables, Sam Rivers on bass
NIN - Trent Reznor, Charlie Clouser, Danny Lohner, Robin Fink, Jerome Dillon
Machine Head - Robb Flynn, Ahrue, Adam Duce, Dave
Amen - Casey Chaos, Sonny Mayo, Tumor, Larkin
Grinspoon - Phil, Pat, Kristian, Joe
Coal Chamber - Rayna *mmm*, Dez, Meegs, Mike
Fear Factory - Burton C Bell, Christian Olde Wolbers, Dino Cazares, Raymond Herrera
Slipknot - #1 - Joey, #2 - Paul, #3 - Chris, #4 - James, #5 - Craig, #6 - Shawn, #7 - Mick, #8 - Corey Taylor, #0 - Sid
System Of A Down - Serj tankien, Daron Malakian, Shavo, John
Mudvayne - Kud, Ryknow, Guurg, Spag
Pantera - Phil Anselmo, Dimebag Darrel, Vinnie Paul
Marilyn Manson - Manson, Twiggy Ramirez, John5, M W Gacy, Ginger Fish
Drain STH: Martina, Flavia, Anna, Maria
RATM - Chris Cornell, Tim, Brad, Tom Morello
Spineshank - Johnny Santos, Souren, Rob, Tom
Taproot - Stephen, Mike, Phil, Jarrod
Prodigy - Liam Howlett, Keith Flint, Maxim Reality (former member: Leeroy Thornhill. Live members: Gizz Butt, Shrky, Gizz Butt, Jim Davies)
Thats off the top of my head.....if i wanted to sit here longer and think about it i could come up with about 15 more bands i think
That proves little. It means YOU can name them.
The point is (and it pains me to agree with Jod here) that most people, regardless of their affiliation with any particular genre, can name all four members of the Beatles. The bands you named above, I'd say nobody would know the members' names unless they were fans of the band.
I could easily rattle off 50 bands in similar fashion, but what does it prove? It proves only that I love their music and have read up on the bands' histories - but it doesn't mean anyone else has a clue who they are.
The Beatles, through their success, and partly through the fact that people have had 30+ years to learn and memorise four short names, have overcome the anonimity that many bands experience outside of their own fan base.
Originally posted by jod23
U2 - Bono, Edge and ?? I dont even know Bono's and Edge's real names.
The Beach Boys - Brian Wilson, Carl Wison, Mike Love and there were some more Wilsons??
The Rolling Stones - Mick Jagger, Keith Richards....
Limp Bizkit - Fred Durst then who?
NIN - Trent Reznor and ??
Oasis - Noel and Liam Gallagher, Bonehead, Guigsy real names escape me though..
Garbage - Shirley Manson, what are the three dudes called..
Powderfinger - Bernard Fanning and ??
Metallica - Lars Ulrich and James Hetfield
REM - Michael Stipe and ??
I cant name any of the Chilli Peppers...
yeah.. U2 is an easy one... bono's real name is Paul Hewson (?)
adam clayton.. larry mullen..
rhcp.. anthony keidis and flea...
i think everyone knows the spice girls.. :P
Originally posted by Darky
The Beatles, through their success, and partly through the fact that people have had 30+ years to learn and memorise four short names, have overcome the anonimity that many bands experience outside of their own fan base.
Beatles were more than a band anyway....they had their own movies as well etc....
Beatles are the biggest band ever.....end of argument, so of course everyone is going to know who they are.
Only people who wouldnt know who the beatles are would be monks in tibet who havent read a paper, listened to a radio or spoken to anyone in 40 years, or people that have been in a coma for 40 years.
the same amount of people also know who Elvis is....and Michael Jackson.
Jod: i dont think their music being the best has anything to do with popularity. I mean its not hard to know who the beatles are really....everyone knows who michael jackson is too....doesnt mean his music is the best either.
hawkfan5
9 Jan 2002, 12:57
THE LIVING END BAND MEMBERS-
Chris Cheney
Travis Demsey
Scott Owen
EASY ENOUGH!
Originally posted by Macca19
...people that have been in a coma for 40 years.
So how did Jod hear about them? :D :p ;) :cool: :o
Originally posted by Darky
So how did Jod hear about them? :D :p ;) :cool: :o
Thats a point scorer!!!
gPhonque
9 Jan 2002, 15:41
Originally posted by Macca19
Only people who wouldnt know who the beatles are would be monks in tibet who havent read a paper, listened to a radio or spoken to anyone in 40 years, or people that have been in a coma for 40 years.
....or members of manufactured current day music acts.
Originally posted by jod23
Was watching an Oasis special the other day and the guy said that Oasis were great but no where near as good as the Bealtes. He said that still today the Beatles is the only band where most people can name all the members. He had a good point...
Oasis - Noel and Liam Gallagher, Bonehead, Guigsy real names escape me though..
When and where was this special on?
Also, you left out, Tony McCarrol (1st drummer) and Alan White (current drummer). ;)
Ruddeger
9 Jan 2002, 18:19
N*Sync
Justin Timberlake
JC Chasez
Lance Bass
Joey Fatone
Chris Kirkpatrick
Originally posted by jod23
The Beach Boys - Brian Wilson, Carl Wison, Mike Love and there were some more Wilsons??
:eek: :eek: :eek:
ONLY the most important Wilson of all!!!!!!!
Dennis Wilson
:mad:
On behalf of the Denny snobs I have to say I'm very disappointed in you jod!!!!!!!!
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/denniswilsonforeverandever
Okies and for the record, meet the Beach Boys:
Brian Wilson
Carl Wilson
Dennis Wilson
Al Jardine
Mike Love
Bruce Johnston
Mooster7
10 Jan 2002, 10:48
I think the main point is I own the entire Beatles collection, whereas I cannot think of a single Oasis tune I care for.
Unfortunately, like Lioness, I CAN ALSO name the Beach Boy line-up.
What about Led Zeppelin?
John Paul Jones
John "Bonzo" Bonham
Robert Plant
Jimmy Page
The JH Experience?
Jimmi Hendrix
Noel Redding
Mitch Mitchell
Mikes One Man Band?
Mike
LOL....i forgot all about this thread. But amazingly you people believe i have a valid point....cool...:cool:
Pessimistic
16 Jan 2002, 09:51
Originally posted by Pessimistic
The beatles were one of the first 'boy bands' right ?
I can name all the spice girls
Or Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Titch
Ill think of some more
My point about the spice girls was meant to be serious. Most people could name them.
They might never be acclaimed in quite the same way as the beatles but they sold a hell of a lot of records, and started a genre of bands. qualifications to be in an all-time top 50 groups that they were excluded from.