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thehoff
24 Oct 2006, 15:44
Anyone seen Pride 32 yet?
some highlights include:
Fedor- just a machine, the guy is seriously a machine sent from the future to school anyone who happens to be in a ring against him. Coleman only went for single legs because of the no kicking downed opponents rule. Emelianko hardly looked like he was trying.
Shogun- The return of the (IMO) most rounded fighters outside of Fedor. Tore randleman a new one (and by the look of it, a new ankle and knee will be required aswell!) Seriously though, randleman needs to learn to tap! The leg bar was that on already, he had nowhere to go. TAP!
Yes, saw it last night and was only slightly impressed. I still prefer UFC because UFC but the Best against the Best, even if they are not world class fighters. The throw the champions against the No.1 contender.
IMO, Pride like the "Freak-shows". I.e. Bob Sapp V second rate morons. I was however impresse with the fight card. It was not short or stars! Every fight has a fighter that was known world wide :thumbsu:
How good was Lawler's knee and i'm with you, Randleman needs to Tap or find a few new body parts.
I think cro cop has an advantage being a leftie, i reckon it would be easier for another southpaw leftie to dodge his high kicks by shrugging his shoulders as he ducked. Use his shoulders in the block and the kick sort of bounces off so to speak. The traditional stance seems to have guys walking straight into his high kick they're so lethal. Anyone agree with that? But then i spose they're open to the liver kicks under their arm.
I reckon fedor had the right idea to push the fight to crocop and stalk him, but jeez you really have to be fast and powerful to pull it off.
I think cro cop has an advantage being a leftie, i reckon it would be easier for another southpaw leftie to dodge his high kicks by shrugging his shoulders as he ducked. Use his shoulders in the block and the kick sort of bounces off so to speak. The traditional stance seems to have guys walking straight into his high kick they're so lethal. Anyone agree with that? But then i spose they're open to the liver kicks under their arm.
I reckon fedor had the right idea to push the fight to crocop and stalk him, but jeez you really have to be fast and powerful to pull it off.
Never underestimate a liver kick. That is his BIGGEST advantage. His stongest side hits the usual side the liver is on an oponent. Just what happend to Wandi. Coped a liver kick and brought his hands down. Bang! Head kick. Set up to perfection.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=5971
An interesting link about Pride in the US and other intersting things.
Having just seen the Fedor v Coleman match
Fedor looked a little rusty,maybe one more match before the inevitable rematch with Crocop
That said,Coleman looks and should be finished.Mark should stick to coaching or he is going to get very badly hurt
Maybe they could start an MMA seniors tournament
Coleman,Kerr,Couture,Gracie,Rutten,Tank etc.With head gear and bigger gloves.
Might be good for a laugh
Presti_is_god
26 Oct 2006, 22:34
Randleman, Coleman and the rest of the Hammerhouse are victims of being too proud to branch out and learn new skills. Randleman couldve been one of the best but he never went out and got the submission knowledge or standup for that matter.
Randleman, Coleman and the rest of the Hammerhouse are victims of being too proud to branch out and learn new skills. Randleman couldve been one of the best but he never went out and got the submission knowledge or standup for that matter.
Randleman is just a stupid fighter. Unlimited potential supported by the brain of a pea. His finest moment was when he knocked out Cro cop. His lowest point was when he got choked out by him in his return fight. He is meant to be a world class wrestler and he got choked by a guy who’s probably never even done a guillotine before.
thehoff
27 Oct 2006, 10:31
Randleman is just a stupid fighter. Unlimited potential supported by the brain of a pea. His finest moment was when he knocked out Cro cop. His lowest point was when he got choked out by him in his return fight. He is meant to be a world class wrestler and he got choked by a guy who’s probably never even done a guillotine before.
Like Fedor. Randlemans toughest opponent is his head...
Both could be the best in the world, yet don't adapt themselves correctly.
Like Fedor. Randlemans toughest opponent is his head...
Both could be the best in the world, yet don't adapt themselves correctly.
Vitor Belfort anyone?
Edit: Wait a minute, no I don't agree, Fedor is the best in the world. I don't see how he could be any more adaptive. He's betten all who come before him and he'd tear Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski a new arse.
thehoff
27 Oct 2006, 12:08
Vitor Belfort anyone?
Edit: Wait a minute, no I don't agree, Fedor is the best in the world. I don't see how he could be any more adaptive. He's betten all who come before him and he'd tear Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski a new arse.
Sorry about that. Yes i was referring to Vitor.
You are correct about Fedor. He has "beaten" all who have come before him.
As i wrote earlier. I'm not sold on the fedor way better than sylvia thing. The guys a midget next to big tim. Not saying he wouldn't win but wouldn't say he's a lock either.
You know what sh#ts me about UFC/Pride etc? They don't produce their dvd's in widescreen format! Eh boys this is 2006 not 1986. don't they know everyone owns a plasma now?
Presti_is_god
28 Oct 2006, 10:51
Then your a fool Deej. Sylvia has no skills. Hes purely reliant on reach and power and his size, Fedor has better boxing, and would just take him down and brutally G&P him anyway.
Vitor is just a dirty drug cheat, Same with Nastula, which explains alot about that fight.
Vitor is just a dirty drug cheat, Same with Nastula, which explains alot about that fight.
Steriods just lead to five minute fighter syndrome. Vitor is a case in point.
Sorry about that. Yes i was referring to Vitor.
You are correct about Fedor. He has "beaten" all who have come before him.
Beaten vs Betten in MS word spell check = Draw. ;)
Sylvia has no skills. Hes purely reliant on reach and power and his size, Fedor has better boxing, and would just take him down and brutally G&P him anyway.
I concur.
Vitor is just a dirty drug cheat, Same with Nastula, which explains alot about that fight.
Totally... 'Roids has fried his brain. And I saw he had Rigan Machado in his corner! What a waste! Rigan is such a legend. It's a shame to waste his time on a brain-fried roids boy.
thehoff
31 Oct 2006, 06:44
Totally... 'Roids has fried his brain. And I saw he had Rigan Machado in his corner! What a waste! Rigan is such a legend. It's a shame to waste his time on a brain-fried roids boy.
Pretty harsh. There have been a number of personal events occur in his life that would have the potential to mess with the heads of anyone. i.e. his sister.
Pretty harsh. There have been a number of personal events occur in his life that would have the potential to mess with the heads of anyone. i.e. his sister.
Yeah, twas probably a bit harsh with the murder of his sister and all. There is no doubt that the steroids has had a negative impact however. Its just a shame because when he burst into the UFC scene he was my favourite fighter :(
thehoff
31 Oct 2006, 10:09
Yeah, twas probably a bit harsh with the murder of his sister and all. There is no doubt that the steroids has had a negative impact however. Its just a shame because when he burst into the UFC scene he was my favourite fighter :(
Likewise.... Hand speed was awesome, however for someone with a Gracie Blackbelt, he does not put his knowledge & experience to good use IMHO.
How many sub-missions have you seen him complete?
Likewise.... Hand speed was awesome, however for someone with a Gracie Blackbelt, he does not put his knowledge & experience to good use IMHO.
How many sub-missions have you seen him complete?
2. An armbar on his "training partner" and a back choke. Most have been KO's and TKO's. You don't see subs much anymore. It's easier and safer to punch from top position.
thehoff
31 Oct 2006, 14:47
2. An armbar on his "training partner" and a back choke. Most have been KO's and TKO's. You don't see subs much anymore. It's easier and safer to punch from top position.
That is my point. For someone with such a decorated background (i.e. Gracie Blackbelt), he does not put it to good use.
That is my point. For someone with such a decorated background (i.e. Gracie Blackbelt), he does not put it to good use.
Hey, no argument there. The only real exponenet of the sub game now days is Nogueira. It's a dying art in MMA IMHO. Now days a good BBJ guy will just get on top and G&P and slip in a back choke if it happens to pop up. Marcus Aurelio is coming through though. He is awsome on the ground.
Presti_is_god
1 Nov 2006, 08:44
Hey, no argument there. The only real exponenet of the sub game now days is Nogueira. It's a dying art in MMA IMHO. Now days a good BBJ guy will just get on top and G&P and slip in a back choke if it happens to pop up. Marcus Aurelio is coming through though. He is awsome on the ground.
Well you cant really be pure BJJ anymore, Guys will just stall you and get stood up, You have to keep busy with G&P, G&P also leads to alot of subs.
Theres a guy called Shinya Aoki from Shooto, He will be the next big thing at LW, Unbelievable subs. Theres also that Arona guy, Hes ok at BJJ... oh and lil Nog.
Well you cant really be pure BJJ anymore, Guys will just stall you and get stood up, You have to keep busy with G&P, G&P also leads to alot of subs.
Theres a guy called Shinya Aoki from Shooto, He will be the next big thing at LW, Unbelievable subs. Theres also that Arona guy, Hes ok at BJJ... oh and lil Nog.
Yeah he just beat a guy I know through BJJ training in Melbourne: George Sotiropoulos. George got DQed for groin strikes which is a shame because he is a fantastic sub fighter himself. He is probably the most likely Australian to have success in global MMA (at least from a BJJ point of view, I don't really have my finger on the Wrestling and stand up pulse locally)
Presti_is_god
1 Nov 2006, 12:10
Yeah he just beat a guy I know through BJJ training in Melbourne: George Sotiropoulos. George got DQed for groin strikes which is a shame because he is a fantastic sub fighter himself. He is probably the most likely Australian to have success in global MMA (at least from a BJJ point of view, I don't really have my finger on the Wrestling and stand up pulse locally)
Yeah. I know Matt Te Paa has moved to the US and is training with Frank Shamrock.
Nathan Corbett has trained with Yoshida(Not sure if he still does). If Corbett made the switch from kickboxing to MMA he'd be one of the best stand up guys around, hes a world champ in muay thai.
Yeah. I know Matt Te Paa has moved to the US and is training with Frank Shamrock.
Nathan Corbett has trained with Yoshida(Not sure if he still does). If Corbett made the switch from kickboxing to MMA he'd be one of the best stand up guys around, hes a world champ in muay thai.
Yeah, it's definitely geared towards stand-up fighters now days especially in Japan, this might help. Anthony Perosh and Elvis Sinosic have fought UFC with inglorious results. Perosh is good, Elvis is serviceable, both are good BJJ black belts. They just need to train in the US or Japan, where they can get the info and training they need to fight at the top level of MMA. The only training partners they really have in au is each other. Have to keep an eye out for these stand up fighters you mention. It's about time an Aussie was successful in MMA. We have some fine BBJ and some awesome muay thai.
Do you think that's what the sport needs here to really take off? A successful Australian? Maybe if we had an aussie go over and punch a hole through chuck that might get things noticed a bit more in the aussie media....
Imagine that, and then our boy says if chuck wants a rematch he has to come down under and fight.....an octagon in rod laver, 15000 aussies on the grog going beserk, fk me dead they'd tear the place to bits!:) :thumbsu:
Do you think that's what the sport needs here to really take off? A successful Australian? Maybe if we had an aussie go over and punch a hole through chuck that might get things noticed a bit more in the aussie media....
Imagine that, and then our boy says if chuck wants a rematch he has to come down under and fight.....an octagon in rod laver, 15000 aussies on the grog going beserk, fk me dead they'd tear the place to bits!:) :thumbsu:
Man that'd be sweet!
Pity the media would probably sensationalise it and try and spin it into some 'evil' human-cockfighting sport. Morons like that have no fkn idea what the modern day MMA fighter is. But having a top Australian at pro level MMA would be undoubtably great for the sport. I also reckon that showing Pride or UFC on Foxtel would help greatly. Stuff like the ultimate fighter reality TV show being run on PayTV (or even FTA!) would be another good way to promote MMA to the masses.
I think it will happen though. Times will change. As MMA gains popularity OS and over the world (compare it to 10 years ago), I really do see it perhaps not taking over boxing, but coming into a league of its own and gaining a lot more mainstream popularity. As this happens, slowly but surely Australia will catch on and we'll see an increase in our own MMA scene here. We can only hope!
Very true. Like Soccer, you need some form of success before most Australians take notice.
Imagine the noise if chuck started to get on top a bit, but then the aussie hit back and chuck gets rocked, goes against the cage, and our boy comes in swinging.
fists of fury!
Am i wierd that i go into such detail for a situation that will never happen? :)
If we got the fighters in Australia the UFC and Pride have show commitment to marketing their brands in other countries. All it would take is the market to be here. There are some dodgy MMA comps around the country, but by and large it's not that hot. I think it was only until last year I think that the only place it was sanctioned was Queensland. I've never been to one of these events, but from what I'm told it's pretty raw.
I was in the US during September and while I was there I saw a show in Nevada. It had some not bad fighters there, but the place was half full and the crowd new sweet FA about MMA. How many times did I hear 'Get up and fight you poofs!"? So if it's still like that in smallsville America I'd hate to think what it's like in smallsville Australia.
Presti_is_god
2 Nov 2006, 11:34
If we got the fighters in Australia the UFC and Pride have show commitment to marketing their brands in other countries. All it would take is the market to be here. There are some dodgy MMA comps around the country, but by and large it's not that hot. I think it was only until last year I think that the only place it was sanctioned was Queensland. I've never been to one of these events, but from what I'm told it's pretty raw.
I was in the US during September and while I was there I saw a show in Nevada. It had some not bad fighters there, but the place was half full and the crowd new sweet FA about MMA. How many times did I hear 'Get up and fight you poofs!"? So if it's still like that in smallsville America I'd hate to think what it's like in smallsville Australia.
Thats part of the reason i loved watching the Pride US show. Everyone their was a hardcore MMA fan. No redneck drunk fools booing fights.
But I think the 1st step is seeing UFC/Pride on Australian TV. Interest will come from that.
No redneck drunk fools booing fights.
Didn't stop them booing the Nevada State Athletics Commission tho!:D :D
Thats part of the reason i loved watching the Pride US show. Everyone their was a hardcore MMA fan. No redneck drunk fools booing fights.
But I think the 1st step is seeing UFC/Pride on Australian TV. Interest will come from that.
Pride is great when you see 50000+ fans cheering like madmen as two fighters trade off or when a guy is very close to a submission.
Hopefully Pride/UFC become more 'mainstream' without losing any of their current greatness. It would be an abomination if they became more and more 'WWF' style which is just made for redneck morons.
Oh Furious One
5 Nov 2006, 22:11
Well you cant really be pure BJJ anymore
The game has evolved so much since 1993. Back in the day, the majority of opponents didn’t have the knowledge of and experience against jujitsu guys and the like. You have to have a solid stand up and ground game, plus good strength and cardiovascular conditioning if you want to be successful in mixed martial arts now.
I want to talk about Mark Kerr with you guys. In case you didn’t know, he fought Mike Whitehead in the IFL a few days ago and lost by TKO in the first round. From all reports, he apparently led into the fight with his hands down waiting for Whitehead to make a mistake, rather than engage himself.
I was so depressed when I heard of his loss. I’m one of Kerr’s biggest fans. He is such a humble guy, very down to earth despite his personal demons. In a post match interview, he said he isn’t going to stop until he gets a win, which disappoints me to a certain extent. It’ll be an absolute travesty if he continues to lose and damages his currently respectable record any further. It wouldn’t do justice to how good he was back when he was in his prime.
What are your thoughts? MMA has evolved so much since he was fighting full time, he has self admittedly said he underestimated the preparation needed in this day and age. Do you think he should retire now while we have such fond memories or should he continue to try and get that one last win and go out on a high note?
Oh Furious One
5 Nov 2006, 22:14
Oh and for those that don't know, on Tuesday Fox Sports 3 will air TUF3.
The morons at Foxtel have it listed as Kick Boxing though. Good news nether the less.
Oh and for those that don't know, on Tuesday Fox Sports 3 will air TUF3.
The morons at Foxtel have it listed as Kick Boxing though. Good news nether the less.
7.30pm fox sports 3, followed by an australian special at 8.30pm, also listed as kickboxing (box/wrestling i think it says so good chance it's mma too.
Too bad i'll likely be off my tree after our cup day barbie with mates.:)
Oh and for those that don't know, on Tuesday Fox Sports 3 will air TUF3.
The morons at Foxtel have it listed as Kick Boxing though. Good news nether the less.
Great news that they are showing it! Does anyone here follow TUF? We're almost at the finale of series 4! It's a great show! Predictions?
Also looking forward to seeing Mike Bisping make his UFC debut :)
Oh Furious One
6 Nov 2006, 13:43
Does anyone here follow TUF? Predictions?
I follow The Ultimate Fighter. I'm going to pick up the Season 1 and 2 box sets from EzyDVD this weekend, I think.
I love Georges St. Pierre as a trainer. I'm a big Shonie Carter fan too. That guy is hilarious.
I'm tipping Serra over Lytle in the Welterweight final and Cote over Lutter in the Middleweight final.
I'm a big Shonie Carter fan too. That guy is hilarious.
That makes one of you. The guy is a tool but you've gotta give him credit. From memory, i think he has almost 100 MMA fights. 80+ wins.
Randy "The Natural" Couture: "Dam Shonie, haven't you got some shorts to wear?" = GOLD!
I follow The Ultimate Fighter. I'm going to pick up the Season 1 and 2 box sets from EzyDVD this weekend, I think.
I love Georges St. Pierre as a trainer. I'm a big Shonie Carter fan too. That guy is hilarious.
I'm tipping Serra over Lytle in the Welterweight final and Cote over Lutter in the Middleweight final.
Yeah I have every episode on my PC :)
As for predictions, I'm thinking Serra over Lytle, and very tough to call with Cote and Lutter, I reckon Lutter might get him down and hold him there. He's a pretty boring fighter though so I'd prefer Cote to win.
GSP is a legend too! I hope he beats down on Hughes.
Oh Furious One
7 Nov 2006, 09:29
GSP is a legend too! I hope he beats down on Hughes.
I have to agree.
I'm really hoping that GSP can get over Hughes this time around. The first fight was great, but I was disappointed when Hughes locked in the arm bar and GSP tapped with literally seconds left in the round.
I dislike Hughes arrogance. Some may say it’s just his confidence showing, but I truly think he is arrogant. I do however respect his fighting ability as that is unquestionable. I’m tipping Monson over Sylvia too in the main event so it will be a bad night for the MFS if both champions lose their championships on the same card.
Presti_is_god
7 Nov 2006, 14:43
Hughes will get tapped. I'd put money on it.
Hughes will get tapped. I'd put money on it.
How much?
Presti_is_god
7 Nov 2006, 21:01
How much?
How much you got?
How much you got?
Name your price.... I would not be backing against Matt.
I hate Matt Hughes with a passion and hope you are correct but i highly doubt that GSP will take the title. Matt Hughes is class..
Name your price.... I would not be backing against Matt.
I hate Matt Hughes with a passion and hope you are correct but i highly doubt that GSP will take the title. Matt Hughes is class..
I tend to agree that Matt Hughes will be favourite, he is definately class, but so is GSP. I doubt Hughes will get tapped unless George has improved his subs a fair bit. My guess is IF he wins it'll be by GnP or a knockdown from standing. I'd put Hughes as at 1.70 and GSP at 2.30 for the win. I can't wait for the fight!
Yeah I hope GSP wins too. Huges is just phenomenal though. But he has to be dethroned one day and I think Huges showed he is human with the first round against Penn.
Oh Furious One
14 Nov 2006, 13:38
Massive news for the sport of MMA was announced today guys. SHOWTIME is going to televise MMA in North America from 2007 - 2009, which will basically ensure a lot more income and exposure.
This is great news. MMA is defiantly on the rise and can only get bigger. The press release is below.
SHOWTIME TO TELEVISE MIXED MARTIAL ARTS EVENTS
New MMA Organization Pro Elite, Inc. Goes Head-to-Head with Ultimate Fighting Championship®
NEW YORK (November 13, 2006) – In a landmark deal for premium television, Showtime Networks Inc. has partnered with Pro Elite, Inc. to televise live mixed martial arts (MMA) events on SHOWTIME beginning in 2007, it was announced today by Ken Hershman, Senior Vice President and General Manager of Sports and Event Programming, Showtime Networks.
The first event will air live on SHOWTIME on February 10, 2007, with additional events airing on the premium television network through 2009.
All MMA events on SHOWTIME will be televised in high-definition.
Pro Elite, Inc. is headed by an impressive team of successful entertainment producers, event promoters and new media/internet visionaries.
CEO and entertainment executive, Douglas DeLuca (Jimmy Kimmel Live, The Man Show), and the President of the live event division, Gary Shaw, will promote the televised events with Rumble World Entertainment’s President and CEO Jay Dee Penn , a black-belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and a veteran promoter in the field of mixed martial arts.
Mixed martial arts is a sport evolved from a number of ancient combat disciplines including Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, Karate, Wrestling and Kickboxing.
A competition unlike any other, world-class athletes engage in hand-to-hand combat in a ring—both caged and traditional—and must adapt their fighting style to fit their opponent. The wide variety of styles and techniques make every event an unpredictable and exciting spectacle.
The intense nature of the contests and the theatrical elements that accompany the live experience have made MMA one of the fastest growing spectator sports in the U.S. In the past three years, the genre has seen exponential growth in popularity, particularly from the coveted male 18-34 demographic. MMA is sanctioned as a sport in more than 20 states with others expected to soon follow.
“Having seen the great success of Ultimate Fighting Championship on basic cable and pay-per-view, we knew that this programming held great potential for Showtime,” said Hershman. “MMA is a global phenomenon that is impossible to ignore. This will be the perfect complement to our boxing franchise and we are proud to be the first premium network to embrace it. We can’t wait to deliver these action-packed events to our subscribers.”
“I’ve been in and around the boxing business for a long time,” said Shaw, who will oversee Pro Elite’s live event promotions. “The energy and the excitement that mixed martial arts events generate throughout the country and on television are astounding. Personally, and on behalf of Pro Elite, I am thrilled to be entering this sport with the exceptional team of professionals at Showtime.”
DeLuca has an extremely diverse background encompassing over sixteen years of experience producing feature films, television series and special events around the world including ABC’s hit late night program Jimmy Kimmel Live and hit reality show The Mole.
Shaw, in addition to his role at Pro Elite, is also the president and CEO of Gary Shaw Productions, LLC, one of the country’s leading boxing promotion companies. Formerly, Shaw was the Chief Inspector for the New Jersey State Athletic Control Commission and a member of the commission’s board, and the Chief Operating Officer of Main Events, another boxing promotional company.
“MMA is the sport for a new generation,” added DeLuca. “The participants in MMA are some of the most dedicated and skilled athletes in the world. Our aim is to shape and nurture the core values of extreme martial arts and deliver it on multiple platforms to the fans and the athletes alike.
Partnering with Showtime, a true leader in televised boxing, is an ideal situation for Pro Elite and all of MMA. Together, we will help this sport flourish and grow.” “Rumble World Entertainment is a family owned and operated business,” said Penn, a lifelong martial artist. “And we’ve seen our events and MMA in general grow like wildfire over the past few years. Our team has been committed to identifying and partnering with the right company and television network to turn our dream into a reality.
Today, we have truly realized that dream.”
Chairman of the Board for Pro Elite, David Marshall, who is also Founder and Vice Chairman of Youbet.com (NASDAQ: UBET), one of the largest providers of technology and pari-mutuel horse racing content for sports enthusiasts through Internet and telephone wagering platforms, and also one of the largest broadcasters of live audio and video on the Internet, stated: "Mixed martial arts is not only the fastest growing spectator sport in the world, but also has perhaps the most passionate fans. This unique partnership with Showtime will revolutionize the sport by providing fans with enormous interactive benefits while creating the leading destination for Mixed Martial Arts on television."
Showtime Networks Inc.
Showtime Networks Inc. (SNI), a wholly-owned subsidiary of CBS Corporation, owns and operates the premium television networks SHOWTIME®, THE MOVIE CHANNEL™ and FLIX®, as well as the multiplex channels SHOWTIME® TOO™, SHOWTIME® SHOWCASE, SHOWTIME EXTREME®, SHOWTIME BEYOND®, SHOWTIME NEXT®, SHOWTIME WOMEN®, SHOWTIME FAMILYZONE® and TMC XTRA. SNI also offers SHOWTIME HD®, THE MOVIE CHANNEL HD™, SHOWTIME ON DEMAND™ and THE MOVIE CHANNEL ON DEMAND™. SNI is also an owner and manager of SUNDANCE CHANNEL, a venture of NBC Universal, Robert Redford and SNI.
SNI also manages Smithsonian Networks, a joint venture between SNI and the Smithsonian Institution. All SNI feeds provide enhanced sound using Dolby Digital 5.1. SNI markets and distributes sports and entertainment events for exhibition to subscribers on a pay-per-view basis through SHOWTIME® PPV.
Pro Elite, Inc. (www.proeliteinc.com)
Pro Elite, Inc. is an entertainment and media company dedicated to producing world-class sports events and specialized Internet content. Pro Elite Inc. is creating a leading Internet destination for sports fans, athletes, and dojos to foster the growth of the core principles of competition - Pride, Spirit, and Sportsmanship. Rumble World Entertainment Rumble World Entertainment (RWE), a Hawaii-based entertainment company, has a long history of staging MMA events. With a committed staff of MMA-industry insiders, RWE has taken its live MMA series, Rumble on the Rock, from a small Hilo-based show to a globally recognized brand in just three years. RWE, which premiered Rumble on the Rock in Dec. 2002, has distributed events in 90 countries including Japan and U.S. pay-per-view as well as released a number of events on DVD.
thehoff
15 Nov 2006, 11:52
When do we get our own board???????
Surely if golf gets a board, we should get one.
Let's start a patition.
When do we get our own board???????
Surely if golf gets a board, we should get one.
Let's start a patition.
150th post! Surely you are correct Hoff! I'll sign.
Presti_is_god
15 Nov 2006, 11:57
We got our own board yesterday.
thehoff
15 Nov 2006, 14:21
We got our own board yesterday.
Where is this board you refer too and do you still want that bet?
Ha ha funny to look back at this thread i started 3 years ago. At the time i'd been watching MMA closely for only about 18 months, I was pretty enthusiastic for the Tito/Ken fight although on reflection it was a waste of time wasnt it. Cant believe how big a Tim Sylvia fan i was jeez that guy has gone to the dogs since...
Randy was an old warhorse back then, and he's headling UFC 101, I know it's Couture but surely he cant win at 45 or whatever he is. He has got to be too old one of these years.