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chapmanmagic35
1 Jun 2006, 20:35
Thankyou for dropping him Bomber...
For all the reasons I have recently posted...
I would be suprised if he is on our list come the end of 2006.
Unwritten_Law
1 Jun 2006, 20:40
Yeah well I've said on here before that I think he is just outside our 22 but considering how :D:D:D:D poor the team is travelling it is beyond stupid calling him up for one game and then dropping when he doesn't perform when a lot of others are doing sfa week in week out and keep their name on the teamsheets. Meh he will probably come straight back in next week when Callan gets the same treatment.
cats2rise
1 Jun 2006, 20:45
Thankyou for dropping him Bomber...
For all the reasons I have recently posted...
I would be suprised if he is on our list come the end of 2006.
are you 100% sure he is dropped?
I like him, he will still be playing for the hopes in '07. He's played half a dozen games after coming back from a season on the sidelines.. be realistic people. it will take him half a year to get back to where he was.
chapmanmagic35
1 Jun 2006, 20:46
are you 100% sure he is dropped?
I like him, he will still be playing for the hopes in '07. He's played half a dozen games after coming back from a season on the sidelines.. be realistic people. it will take him half a year to get back to where he was.
But he was never that good...
Yeah, he has been omitted.
cats2rise
1 Jun 2006, 20:54
lol should have looked at the other threads first :thumbsu:
Oscarlett
1 Jun 2006, 21:24
DW, has a massive upside, if we were to delist him one year after a reco, then I would be outraged. Give him a go, a reckon this time next year, he'll be in our top 10 players.
TheTimeCometh
1 Jun 2006, 21:48
drop all o 'em then. who has played :D:D:D:Den accountable footy then mr magic? - NOT -including yer namesake and the usual few suspects.
paging foreskin to the thread.
Poor move IMO...should let him string a few games together in the seniors to show they have faith in him after the injury. Playing him one week and dropping him the next is gonna do SFA for his confidence.
Partridge
2 Jun 2006, 09:36
Poor move IMO...should let him string a few games together in the seniors to show they have faith in him after the injury. Playing him one week and dropping him the next is gonna do SFA for his confidence.
I would have dropped Kelly instead of Wocjinski. Anyway, we'll find out tomorrow if it made a difference.
I highly doubt he will be out of the team for an extended period. What people forget is Bomber would be directing Monica to run the lines and back himself. Sure he got caught a few times on the weekend but Bomber would have been encouraged by the signs of him attempting to get his running game back.
He was one of few players willing to back themselves and have a dip on the weekend. I don't think this should be punished to harshly but i do agree he should head back to the ressies for a spell.
There are many other people of the list that should go before him.
darren forssman
2 Jun 2006, 09:43
But he was never that good...
No, he only won most improved in 2004 and then did his knee the following year in 2005.
And now he is coming in for a game, not getting game time then being dropped.
So, we go to the question:
did the pole not sign your lil bib or big m lil league footy magic with all you hatred for him?
and what are your qualifications for desiginating the lace out delivery?
darren forssman
2 Jun 2006, 09:46
I highly doubt he will be out of the team for an extended period. What people forget is Bomber would be directing Monica to run the lines and back himself. Sure he got caught a few times on the weekend but Bomber would have been encouraged by the signs of him attempting to get his running game back.
He was one of few players willing to back themselves and have a dip on the weekend. I don't think this should be punished to harshly but i do agree he should head back to the ressies for a spell.
There are many other people of the list that should go before him.
paging planet hoff.....
we need to unite to destroy this chapmanmagic32 and his toolish ways.
it seems he would prefer cameron lings helicopter chip kicks over someone running the lines with a bit of confidence.
chapmanmagic35
2 Jun 2006, 10:53
:confused: :confused: :confused:
I don't hate the guy, I just don't rate him very highly as a footballer...
What are you on about DF?
Last time I checked, it was okay to have an opinion.
Maybe watch Wojcinski more closely DF instead of going into a frenzy about how quick he is and how much of an asset he can be...
:confused: :confused: :confused:
I don't hate the guy, I just don't rate him very highly as a footballer...
What are you on about DF?
Last time I checked, it was okay to have an opinion.
Maybe watch Wojcinski more closely DF instead of going into a frenzy about how quick he is and how much of an asset he can be...
Lets put this to rest right now. As of this minute, you are no longer permitted to have an opinion, got it? :thumbsu:
Dazza, only just recieved your page and i'm working on it!:D
darren forssman
2 Jun 2006, 11:10
Last time I checked, it was okay to have an opinion.
Maybe watch Wojcinski more closely DF instead of going into a frenzy about how quick he is and how much of an asset he can be...
it is okay to have opinion, but to slate one guy as having poor disposal and getting caught is outrageous. david johnson does the exact same things, i dont read you calling for his blood. wil slade gives away 50m willy nilly your not calling for his delisting. cameron ling puts his teammates in danger with his disposal but again your not calling for his blood. and thats just a short list, could easily be added to.
ive watched him very closely actually as well as the team and remember back to when he played run with roles and back half and was an integral part of the squad.
if he is not there at seasons end it will be due to another team trading for him.
chapmanmagic35
2 Jun 2006, 12:53
it is okay to have opinion, but to slate one guy as having poor disposal and getting caught is outrageous.
Is it really?
david johnson does the exact same things, i dont read you calling for his blood. wil slade gives away 50m willy nilly your not calling for his delisting.
Do you hear me praising Slade? I've probably been one of his critics too, especially in the free kick department.
cameron ling puts his teammates in danger with his disposal but again your not calling for his blood. and thats just a short list, could easily be added to.
Maybe because Ling has been our best performer in the past 4 years with Scarlett. He deserves some slack. Alot of you have short memories.
ive watched him very closely actually as well as the team and remember back to when he played run with roles and back half and was an integral part of the squad.
See, that is your opinion. I'm not going to have a go at it, like some people have about mine.
if he is not there at seasons end it will be due to another team trading for him.
I probably agree there, alot of clubs are attracted by the pace factor.
chapmanmagic35
2 Jun 2006, 12:55
Lets put this to rest right now. As of this minute, you are no longer permitted to have an opinion, got it? :thumbsu:
Dazza, only just recieved your page and i'm working on it!:D
:confused:
What is wrong with what I have said?
darren forssman
2 Jun 2006, 13:14
i dont deny you your opinion, its just that whole teams disposal and decision making isnt flash at the moment but you have managed to single out one guy. its really weird.
ling is horrible at the moment. i remember him being a good negater but never a good playmaker. im not calling for him to be dropped or anything though. his disposal is awful, his decision making has been poor, he isnt quick and he looks very much overweight. i think your rationale is great clubman = great player.
what about shannon byrnes?? are you critical of him? do you cringe when he misses easy or shots or gets caught?/
chapmanmagic35
2 Jun 2006, 13:29
i dont deny you your opinion, its just that whole teams disposal and decision making isnt flash at the moment but you have managed to single out one guy. its really weird.
ling is horrible at the moment. i remember him being a good negater but never a good playmaker. im not calling for him to be dropped or anything though. his disposal is awful, his decision making has been poor, he isnt quick and he looks very much overweight. i think your rationale is great clubman = great player.
what about shannon byrnes?? are you critical of him? do you cringe when he misses easy or shots or gets caught?/
Sorry if it has come out that way. There are a few in our team guilty of it. However, Wojcinski is one that always stick out in my mind.
Ling is the fittest player at Geelong. You don't necessarily have to be quick and an athlete to be fit.
Byrnes is guilty of it at times, but he played quite well last week.
Poor move IMO...should let him string a few games together in the seniors to show they have faith in him after the injury. Playing him one week and dropping him the next is gonna do SFA for his confidence.
Could not have put it better myself Fugsy Wugsy :thumbsu:
Thankyou for dropping him Bomber...
For all the reasons I have recently posted...
I would be suprised if he is on our list come the end of 2006.
LMFAO ... Why on earth would he not be in the hoops???
Bomber has had 12 months out of the game (just like Nathan Brown) ... and as expected both are stuggling.
He is way down on fitness, and the only way he's going to get it back is game time ................ which begs the question why the hell would bomber bring someone who needs match-fitness into the team and then proceed to sit him on the bench for over half the game?
in the short term ok, but long term this is just prolonging the time its going to take for bomber to reach his peak again.
We will not see the best of David Wojcinski in 2006, but my God stop making these rediculous statements that he'll be lucky to retain his spot - thats just crap.
Officially Bomber (Wojcinski's) number 1 fan - Stoney.
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What is wrong with what I have said?
I'm only joking buddy. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Right, wrong or indiffernt.
I probably agree there, alot of clubs are attracted by the pace factor.
Let me get this straight, you think other clubs attracted to Bomber because of the 'pace factor' but we're not?
You talk about short memories, what about the bleeding obvious that our side lacks pace ... hence we will probably trade an under-performing player who lacks in this department - just an idea - i cant see bomber being as stupid to further exploit our team's lack of pace by trading one of our few genuine pacers.
chapmanmagic35
2 Jun 2006, 15:37
LMFAO ... Why on earth would he not be in the hoops???
Bomber has had 12 months out of the game (just like Nathan Brown) ... and as expected both are stuggling.
He is way down on fitness, and the only way he's going to get it back is game time ................ which begs the question why the hell would bomber bring someone who needs match-fitness into the team and then proceed to sit him on the bench for over half the game?
in the short term ok, but long term this is just prolonging the time its going to take for bomber to reach his peak again.
We will not see the best of David Wojcinski in 2006, but my God stop making these rediculous statements that he'll be lucky to retain his spot - thats just crap.
Officially Bomber (Wojcinski's) number 1 fan - Stoney.
Wow, I didn't realise you were his biggest fan until that last line! :D
I've said it so many times that 'Yes, I know it takes a long time to re-cover from a knee injury'. The thing is, he was never that important to our side and he was never that good.
If we want to win premierships, guys like Wojcinski won't last. We can't afford to have guys who run, take a bounce, then think "Oh bugger, what do I do next?" and get hammered holding the ball.
I have seen Wojcinski do it so many times...
chapmanmagic35
2 Jun 2006, 15:38
I'm only joking buddy. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Right, wrong or indiffernt.
Hehe! I know!
Maybe my 'love' for Wojcinski is like your 'love' for Matty Spencer! :p
chapmanmagic35
2 Jun 2006, 15:39
Let me get this straight, you think other clubs attracted to Bomber because of the 'pace factor' but we're not?
You talk about short memories, what about the bleeding obvious that our side lacks pace ... hence we will probably trade an under-performing player who lacks in this department - just an idea - i cant see bomber being as stupid to further exploit our team's lack of pace by trading one of our few genuine pacers.
Yes, clubs will be attracted to it. We shouldn't be because Wojcinski's skills are below average.
Our side may lack pace, but we also need smart footballers.
Hehe! I know!
Maybe my 'love' for Wojcinski is like your 'love' for Matty Spencer! :p
I can tell you now. You wont have as much love for Monica as i do for big Rog!
TheTimeCometh
2 Jun 2006, 15:56
who else then, majic, should we place in the replacable column? WHO, of the 'fringe' players are smart footballers going by your discerning observations? - you never really tried to answer that query, which is fair 'nuff, but there must be at least 8 or so other players that sound like they have similar negatives. i really dont get yer angle.
and i can tell you now, that when the confidence of the WHOLE team returns there will be less and less of the 'oh bugger, what have i got up the ground', but more options. he aint the first thru this slump to get caught out with nowhere to go.
all i can reply with is a dumbfounded face and an intelligent comment ...
Wojcinski won't be traded - sure everyone would love to have supreme players who are quick, evasive, defensive, offensive, super skilled - but the truth of it all is everyone has weaknesses.
Bomba's is his skills i agree, but he is better than Callen, David Johnson, and on par with Hunt in the small defenders ... which means he'll be in our 22 for a few yrs to come.
3 tall defenders, Scarlo, Harls, Egan
1 middle sized, Milburn
2 smalls Wojcinski, Hunt
its our best back 6 - none will be going anywhere this trade period.
darren forssman
2 Jun 2006, 17:20
Ling is the fittest player at Geelong. You don't necessarily have to be quick and an athlete to be fit.
its the chapmanmagic35 has gone completely mad sale!!!
fittest player at geelong. you are either taking the mickey or criminally insane. my dad is fitter and quicker and he needs a hip replacement.
your arguments are about as thin as mackies arms!!!
its the chapmanmagic35 has gone completely mad sale!!!
fittest player at geelong. you are either taking the mickey or criminally insane. my dad is fitter and quicker and he needs a hip replacement.
your arguments are about as thin as mackies arms!!!
Ling has the best Stamina at Geelong. Evidently, he always wins the Beeptest. This would indicated that your old man would struggle to be physically fitter than the sunburnt rooster.
There is a big different between being fit and match fit!
P.S When are you girls gunna stop fighting?
chapmanmagic35
2 Jun 2006, 22:04
all i can reply with is a dumbfounded face and an intelligent comment ...
Wojcinski won't be traded - sure everyone would love to have supreme players who are quick, evasive, defensive, offensive, super skilled - but the truth of it all is everyone has weaknesses.
Bomba's is his skills i agree, but he is better than Callen, David Johnson, and on par with Hunt in the small defenders ... which means he'll be in our 22 for a few yrs to come.
3 tall defenders, Scarlo, Harls, Egan
1 middle sized, Milburn
2 smalls Wojcinski, Hunt
its our best back 6 - none will be going anywhere this trade period.
Hunt > Wojcinski (despite Hunt's slow start to 2006)
Both are suspect under real pressure, but Hunt's long-kicking gives him the nod.
Callan will be a better footballer than Wojcinski, and must be played ahead of him at all times IMO.
chapmanmagic35
2 Jun 2006, 22:05
Ling has the best Stamina at Geelong. Evidently, he always wins the Beeptest. This would indicated that your old man would struggle to be physically fitter than the sunburnt rooster.
There is a big different between being fit and match fit!
P.S When are you girls gunna stop fighting?
Exactly. Ling is the fittest player at Geelong. He was close to cracking 20 in the beep test a couple years back.
I'm not even fighting! I just stated my opinion and DF took it personally!
darren forssman
3 Jun 2006, 12:42
I'm not even fighting! I just stated my opinion and DF took it personally!
nothing taken personally, it just seems you have a vendetta against the poor guy.
he may have poor disposal but its a character of nearly the whole team. thats my point, i dont think we many players that can hit a target lace out. but its like some big hallejuah moment that he gets dropped for you like he is the bane of all geelongs problems.
and as for ling having the best beep test, he has to have stamina, he is chasing tail all day long. and i change my previous post to my ole man being able to lead him everywhere even with his bung hip up until lings superior stamina takes over. ling would be huffing away telling someone else to pick him up.