View Full Version : Anyone See the Alltime World Rankings?
I saw that they did alltime test rankings, I assume recently, using the same process that they give the present rankings.
I was just wondering if anyone had seen the full results, I saw the top 8's of both & it was a bit controversial.
Garner was the number 1 bowler, Barnes 2nd, Hadlee & Imran were up there as was Murali but no Warne & I don't think Lillee was there either.
For the batting Bradman was 1st but not by many points which surprised me, then Hutton, Hobbs, & Richards, Walcott, Sobers were there with Ponting just behind.
The thing I wanted to know was, did they work it out getting the highest ranked bowler/batsman at a single point in histiry or was done over their career, I can't actually see how they could do it that way so I'm assuming it was done as who had the most points at any time in history.So no bowler ever got more points at any time than Garner had at one time in his career.
Would be interested if anyone has more information on how they did it & the full lists.
ICC should leave the rankings to Wisden- the Bible of cricket reference.....
Some shocking stuff in there...but haven't seen the whole list....
The Reaper
2 Jun 2006, 22:15
Mathew Hayden is ninth but neither Tendulkar or Lara are in the top 20
Botham is tenth, Warne is sixteenth and Lilee is 20th
The Reaper
2 Jun 2006, 22:19
I will do a countdown of the top 30 batsmen, bowlers and the top 15 allrounders.
its done at their highest point in their career. like career best form.
The Reaper
2 Jun 2006, 22:22
Alltimebatting tests
30. Greg Chappell (Australia)
http://www.crusaderscricket.com.au/newsImage/Greg%20Chappell%207.gif
883 Points
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30. Greg Chappell (Aus) 883
The Reaper
2 Jun 2006, 22:25
All time batting tests
29. Javed Miandad (Pakistan)
http://www.liveindia.com/cricket/cl5.jpg
885 Points
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29. Javed Miandad (Pak) 885
30. Greg Chappell (Aus) 883
The Reaper
2 Jun 2006, 22:33
Alltime Batting Tests
28. Clem Hill (Australia)
http://www.treloars.com/gallery/cricket/hill66209.jpg
886 Points
27. Herbet Sutcliff (England)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Herbert_Sutcliffe_1924.jpg/350px-Herbert_Sutcliffe_1924.jpg
888 Points
26. Colin McDonald (Aus)
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891 Points
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26. Colin McDonald (Aus) 891
27. Herbet Sutcliffe (Eng) 888
28. Clem Hill (Aus) 886
29. Javed Miandad (Pak) 885
30. Greg Chappell (Aus) 883
The Reaper
2 Jun 2006, 22:43
25. Rahul Dravid (India)
http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/54200/54232.jpg
892 Points
23. Steve Waugh (Aus) and Andy Flower (Zimbabwe)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/ninglun/Steve_waugh.jpg
http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1068329422889_2003/11/09/10s_flower,0.jpg
895 Points
22. Jacques Kallis (South Africa)
http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/54200/54230.jpg
896 Points
21. Wally Hammond (England)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Wally_Hammond.JPG/154px-Wally_Hammond.JPG
897 Points
20. Sachin Tendulkar (India)
http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/54200/54241.jpg
898 Points
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20. Sachin Tendulkar (Ind) 898
21. Wally Hammond (End) 897
22. Jacques Kalliss (RSA) 896
23. (Equal) Steve Waugh (Aus), Andy Flower (Zim) 895
25. Rahul Dravid (Ind) 892
26. Colin McDonald (Aus) 891
27. Herbet Sutcliffe (Eng) 888
28. Clem Hill (Aus) 886
29. Javed Miandad (Pak) 885
30. Greg Chappell (Aus) 883Today 20:25
The Reaper
2 Jun 2006, 22:55
19. Brian Lara (West Indies)
http://www.outlookindia.com/images/photoessays/brian_lara_SPE_20050110.jpg
911 Points
18. Ken Barrington (England)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1885000/images/_1889800_bar150.jpg
914 Points
17. George Headley (West Indies)
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://content.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/DB/012004/049566.jpg&imgrefurl=http://content.cricinfo.com/ci/content/image/159398.html&h=205&w=160&sz=7&tbnid=cmQ-jGWL6QzDbM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=78&hl=en&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3DGeorge%2BHeadley%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D %26sa%3DN
915 Points
16. Sunil Gavaskar (India)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38668000/jpg/_38668731_sunil2x3_get.jpg
916 Points
15. Denis Compton (England)
http://static.ecb.co.uk/images/width150/denis-compton-6914.jpg
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15. Dennis Compton (Eng) 917
16. Sunnil Gavaskar (Ind) 916
17. George Headley (WI) 915
18. Ken Barrington (Eng) 914
19. Brian Lara (WI) 911
20. Sachin Tendulkar (Ind) 898
21. Wally Hammond (End) 897
22. Jacques Kalliss (RSA) 896
23. (Equal) Steve Waugh (Aus), Andy Flower (Zim) 895
25. Rahul Dravid (Ind) 892
26. Colin McDonald (Aus) 891
27. Herbet Sutcliffe (Eng) 888
28. Clem Hill (Aus) 886
29. Javed Miandad (Pak) 885
30. Greg Chappell (Aus) 883
Alltimebatting tests
30. Greg Chappell (Australia)
http://www.crusaderscricket.com.au/newsImage/Greg%20Chappell%207.gif
883 Points
The groundsman has left a bit of grass on that track.:D
The Reaper
2 Jun 2006, 23:04
14. Neil Harvey (Australia)
http://www.liveindia.com/cricket/cl6.jpg
921 Points
12. (Equal) Doug Walters (Australia) and Dudley Nourse (South Africa)
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/02/07/doug_walters,0.jpg
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922 Points
10. (equal) Graeme Pollock (South Africa) and Everton Weekes (West Indies)
http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jul/18vint3a.jpg
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927 Points
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10.(Equald) Graeme Pollock (RSA), Everton Weekes (WI) 927
12. (Equal) Doug Walters (Aus), Dudley Nourse (RSA) 922
14. Neil Harvey (Aus) 921
15. Dennis Compton (Eng) 917
16. Sunnil Gavaskar (Ind) 916
17. George Headley (WI) 915
18. Ken Barrington (Eng) 914
19. Brian Lara (WI) 911
20. Sachin Tendulkar (Ind) 898
21. Wally Hammond (End) 897
22. Jacques Kalliss (RSA) 896
23. (Equal) Steve Waugh (Aus), Andy Flower (Zim) 895
25. Rahul Dravid (Ind) 892
26. Colin McDonald (Aus) 891
27. Herbet Sutcliffe (Eng) 888
28. Clem Hill (Aus) 886
29. Javed Miandad (Pak) 885
30. Greg Chappell (Aus) 883
The Reaper
2 Jun 2006, 23:17
Alltime Test Batting
9. Matthew Hayden (Australia)
http://static.ecb.co.uk/images/width150/matthew-hayden-6512.jpg
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8. Ricky Ponting (Australia)
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20060107//sp3.jpg
937 Points
5. Viv Richards, Garfield Sobers, Clyde Walcott (West Indies)
http://www.guardian.co.tt/archives/2005-04-23/viv-richards.jpg
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938 Points
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5. Viv Richards, Garfield Sobers, Clyde Walcott (WI) 938
8. Ricky Ponting (Aus) 937
9. Mathew Hayden (Aus) 935
10.(Equald) Graeme Pollock (RSA), Everton Weekes (WI) 927
12. (Equal) Doug Walters (Aus), Dudley Nourse (RSA) 922
14. Neil Harvey (Aus) 921
15. Dennis Compton (Eng) 917
16. Sunnil Gavaskar (Ind) 916
17. George Headley (WI) 915
18. Ken Barrington (Eng) 914
19. Brian Lara (WI) 911
20. Sachin Tendulkar (Ind) 898
21. Wally Hammond (End) 897
22. Jacques Kalliss (RSA) 896
23. (Equal) Steve Waugh (Aus), Andy Flower (Zim) 895
25. Rahul Dravid (Ind) 892
26. Colin McDonald (Aus) 891
27. Herbet Sutcliffe (Eng) 888
28. Clem Hill (Aus) 886
29. Javed Miandad (Pak) 885
30. Greg Chappell (Aus) 883
The Reaper
2 Jun 2006, 23:24
Alltime Test Batting
4. Peter May (England)
http://www.icc-cricket.com/perl/picture.cgi/055863/inline
941 Points
3. Jack Hobbs (England)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/furniture/in_depth/cricket/2001/ashes/legends/jack_hobbs.jpg
942 Points
2. Len Hutton (England)
http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/DB/032004/050699.jpg
945 Points
1. Don Bradman
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/furniture/in_depth/cricket/2001/ashes/classics/don_bradman.jpg
961 Points (The max)
Final List
1. Don Bradman (Aus) 961
2. Len Hutton (Eng) 945
3. Jack Hobbs (Eng) 942
4. Peter May (Eng) 941
5. Viv Richards, Garfield Sobers, Clyde Walcott (WI) 938
8. Ricky Ponting (Aus) 937
9. Mathew Hayden (Aus) 935
10.(Equald) Graeme Pollock (RSA), Everton Weekes (WI) 927
12. (Equal) Doug Walters (Aus), Dudley Nourse (RSA) 922
14. Neil Harvey (Aus) 921
15. Dennis Compton (Eng) 917
16. Sunnil Gavaskar (Ind) 916
17. George Headley (WI) 915
18. Ken Barrington (Eng) 914
19. Brian Lara (WI) 911
20. Sachin Tendulkar (Ind) 898
21. Wally Hammond (End) 897
22. Jacques Kalliss (RSA) 896
23. (Equal) Steve Waugh (Aus), Andy Flower (Zim) 895
25. Rahul Dravid (Ind) 892
26. Colin McDonald (Aus) 891
27. Herbet Sutcliffe (Eng) 888
28. Clem Hill (Aus) 886
29. Javed Miandad (Pak) 885
30. Greg Chappell (Aus) 883
Wow what a poor list (mainly the order). Amazed they got Bradman right.
The Reaper
2 Jun 2006, 23:29
Adam Gilchrist is 37, trescotik 55, Hussey 75 and Langer 97:confused:
Wow what a poor list (mainly the order). Amazed they got Bradman right.
It's not best 30 players ever over there careers it's the top 30 players in career best form. which looks about right.
Mathew Hayden is ninth but neither Tendulkar or Lara are in the top 20
Botham is tenth, Warne is sixteenth and Lilee is 20th
How can the Leading wicket taker of All-Time NOT be in atleast the top five?
How can the Leading wicket taker of All-Time NOT be in atleast the top five?
Because while he takes wickets he also goes for a fair few runs.