View Full Version : Carlton will beat West Coast
funhouse
7 Jun 2006, 20:10
Here are reasons why.
1. West Coast dont rate Carlton as a team (as they probably shouldnt) and will go into the game thinking that it will be a one hundred point thrashing and hardly try in the first quarter. Calrton always get run over in the first quarter and gradually close the gap throughout the match. The opening term will consist of Calrotn kicking a couple of quick goals leaving West Coast stunned for the first term, which would leave Carlton in the advantage as they always have trouble getting off the ground and only start playing good footy after the first quarter break. And unlike Geelong Carlton wont choke.
2. West Coast are without Judd, and they are rubbish without Judd. They let Geelong get to a 54 point lead which the Cats would have extended if they had not run out of legs. When they are winning who is playing the best on ground? When they are losing who do they look to for inspiration? Who is the best midfielder in the league? The answer to all those questions is Chris Judd and West Coast are a shambles without him (dont be confused by the shambles of a match against the cats). When your gameplan is put all around one man it is no secret that your team will go to hell when they lose the said man (See Essendon) and West Coast do not have a plan to play without Judd . Cousins is a glorified pretty boy, Kerr = Camporeale and would be reguarded as a second string player at any other team, Flecther is more worried about how many stats he picks up then actually playing well and the less said about the rest of West Coasts midfield the better.
3. Kind of a rehash of point 1 but West Coast are arrogant (See last years West Coast V Collingwood game)
4. Alot of people have probably already noticed this but West Coast have no forwards, they rely on kicking all their goals from their midfield (which did I mention is Judd-less). With all their forwards terrible, all the set shots will come from 25 meters away from goal or shots on the run from 50. Lance Whitnall should be able to cover the 25 meter area around goal with the form that he is in, which leaves the long bombs from 50 which statistically dont have much hope of getting in.
5. I know what your thinking (either 'is this guy for real?' or 'what about Carlton, dont they suck?'), yes well Carlton do suck but where West Coast are lacking the Blues have in spades. The midfield will be lead by Stevens who hasnt had a great seaon but thats only because he gets the opposing teams best tagger and can only manage around 15 possesions every game but West Coast dont have a good tagger which should leave Stevens to rack up plenty of possesions and be able to feed the ball of to Carltons running players, Simpson, Walker and Carrazzo, all under-rated players who will fall under West Coasts radar (with the possible exception of Walker).
6. Carlton do have forward options, namley Fevola who is second on the goal kicking and provides a great option to kick to, if he gets a couple of goals early he will lift the team.
7. Carlton best attribute is defenitley its hard ball gets, if it puts pressure on West Coast throughout the match all over the ground they will give up ball 9 out of 10 times, West Coast wont know whats hit them, the Eagles cant handle the pressure and the Blues will capitalise on the mistakes that will be made from the man on man game that Carlton will play. All other teams have been afraid to play the hard ball game with West Coast thinking that they have to play the running game to beat them. West Coast are too good at the running game and will win every time. Carlton will be able to make the game a hard scrappy afair, which they will already be prepared to win, and like I said West Coast wont know what is going on in front of their eyes.
There it is. This Sunday you will proclaim me a football mastermind.
otis_david
7 Jun 2006, 20:13
Bay 13 Fool.
cooperjai
7 Jun 2006, 20:14
1. West Coast dont rate Carlton as a team
nothing more needs to be said...
200pt game coming up.
Cassius_Clay
7 Jun 2006, 20:15
Funny thing is, he is being serious :eek:
NFI, absolutely NFI.
patsmith
7 Jun 2006, 20:15
Go and and put a grand on it. Or are you just trying to convince yourself that Carlton are a chance?
MrSquashed
7 Jun 2006, 20:15
Bay 13 Fool.
its a legit thread, fool
Melbourne Comedy Festival board.
I'll bet you do great standup.
Truetiger
7 Jun 2006, 20:20
Here are reasons why.
1. West Coast dont rate Carlton as a team (as they probably shouldnt) and will go into the game thinking that it will be a one hundred point thrashing and hardly try in the first quarter. Calrton always get run over in the first quarter and gradually close the gap throughout the match. The opening term will consist of Calrotn kicking a couple of quick goals leaving West Coast stunned for the first term, which would leave Carlton in the advantage as they always have trouble getting off the ground and only start playing good footy after the first quarter break. And unlike Geelong Carlton wont choke.
2. West Coast are without Judd, and they are rubbish without Judd. They let Geelong get to a 54 point lead which the Cats would have extended if they had not run out of legs. When they are winning who is playing the best on ground? When they are losing who do they look to for inspiration? Who is the best midfielder in the league? The answer to all those questions is Chris Judd and West Coast are a shambles without him (dont be confused by the shambles of a match against the cats). When your gameplan is put all around one man it is no secret that your team will go to hell when they lose the said man (See Essendon) and West Coast do not have a plan to play without Judd . Cousins is a glorified pretty boy, Kerr = Camporeale and would be reguarded as a second string player at any other team, Flecther is more worried about how many stats he picks up then actually playing well and the less said about the rest of West Coasts midfield the better.
3. Kind of a rehash of point 1 but West Coast are arrogant (See last years West Coast V Collingwood game)
4. Alot of people have probably already noticed this but West Coast have no forwards, they rely on kicking all their goals from their midfield (which did I mention is Judd-less). With all their forwards terrible, all the set shots will come from 25 meters away from goal or shots on the run from 50. Lance Whitnall should be able to cover the 25 meter area around goal with the form that he is in, which leaves the long bombs from 50 which statistically dont have much hope of getting in.
5. I know what your thinking (either 'is this guy for real?' or 'what about Carlton, dont they suck?'), yes well Carlton do suck but where West Coast are lacking the Blues have in spades. The midfield will be lead by Stevens who hasnt had a great seaon but thats only because he gets the opposing teams best tagger and can only manage around 15 possesions every game but West Coast dont have a good tagger which should leave Stevens to rack up plenty of possesions and be able to feed the ball of to Carltons running players, Simpson, Walker and Carrazzo, all under-rated players who will fall under West Coasts radar (with the possible exception of Walker).
6. Carlton do have forward options, namley Fevola who is second on the goal kicking and provides a great option to kick to, if he gets a couple of goals early he will lift the team.
7. Carlton best attribute is defenitley its hard ball gets, if it puts pressure on West Coast throughout the match all over the ground they will give up ball 9 out of 10 times, West Coast wont know whats hit them, the Eagles cant handle the pressure and the Blues will capitalise on the mistakes that will be made from the man on man game that Carlton will play. All other teams have been afraid to play the hard ball game with West Coast thinking that they have to play the running game to beat them. West Coast are too good at the running game and will win every time. Carlton will be able to make the game a hard scrappy afair, which they will already be prepared to win, and like I said West Coast wont know what is going on in front of their eyes.
There it is. This Sunday you will proclaim me a football mastermind.
LMAO you must be high or full of something thats for sure. WHat ever you are smoking do us all a fav and put it out. Remember say no to drugs lol.
Carlton wont get within 80pts. Even then they would be lucky.
Todd_Gack
7 Jun 2006, 20:24
4. Alot of people have probably already noticed this but West Coast have no forwards, they rely on kicking all their goals from their midfield (which did I mention is Judd-less). With all their forwards terrible, all the set shots will come from 25 meters away from goal or shots on the run from 50. Lance Whitnall should be able to cover the 25 meter area around goal with the form that he is in, which leaves the long bombs from 50 which statistically dont have much hope of getting in.
I have to agree with this point. Eagles are nothing without mcdougall, and without him carlton are going to slaughter us
Baby Blue
7 Jun 2006, 20:26
you've spent far too much time on this, would love you to be right but can't see it happening.
I'll be happy if we stay within 5 goals.
Blues_Man
7 Jun 2006, 20:27
the way we are playing ...we wouldn't beat the Eagles over there if we started now :o
hawkeye23
7 Jun 2006, 20:28
parrot is better than this arseclown, and doesn't waste as much of my life to read. Although, the paragraphing was a welcome change from parrot's efforts.
Alexis Logan
7 Jun 2006, 20:29
Here are reasons why.
1. West Coast dont rate Carlton as a team (as they probably shouldnt) and will go into the game thinking that it will be a one hundred point thrashing and hardly try in the first quarter. Calrton always get run over in the first quarter and gradually close the gap throughout the match. The opening term will consist of Calrotn kicking a couple of quick goals leaving West Coast stunned for the first term, which would leave Carlton in the advantage as they always have trouble getting off the ground and only start playing good footy after the first quarter break. And unlike Geelong Carlton wont choke.
2. West Coast are without Judd, and they are rubbish without Judd. They let Geelong get to a 54 point lead which the Cats would have extended if they had not run out of legs. When they are winning who is playing the best on ground? When they are losing who do they look to for inspiration? Who is the best midfielder in the league? The answer to all those questions is Chris Judd and West Coast are a shambles without him (dont be confused by the shambles of a match against the cats). When your gameplan is put all around one man it is no secret that your team will go to hell when they lose the said man (See Essendon) and West Coast do not have a plan to play without Judd . Cousins is a glorified pretty boy, Kerr = Camporeale and would be reguarded as a second string player at any other team, Flecther is more worried about how many stats he picks up then actually playing well and the less said about the rest of West Coasts midfield the better.
3. Kind of a rehash of point 1 but West Coast are arrogant (See last years West Coast V Collingwood game)
4. Alot of people have probably already noticed this but West Coast have no forwards, they rely on kicking all their goals from their midfield (which did I mention is Judd-less). With all their forwards terrible, all the set shots will come from 25 meters away from goal or shots on the run from 50. Lance Whitnall should be able to cover the 25 meter area around goal with the form that he is in, which leaves the long bombs from 50 which statistically dont have much hope of getting in.
5. I know what your thinking (either 'is this guy for real?' or 'what about Carlton, dont they suck?'), yes well Carlton do suck but where West Coast are lacking the Blues have in spades. The midfield will be lead by Stevens who hasnt had a great seaon but thats only because he gets the opposing teams best tagger and can only manage around 15 possesions every game but West Coast dont have a good tagger which should leave Stevens to rack up plenty of possesions and be able to feed the ball of to Carltons running players, Simpson, Walker and Carrazzo, all under-rated players who will fall under West Coasts radar (with the possible exception of Walker).
6. Carlton do have forward options, namley Fevola who is second on the goal kicking and provides a great option to kick to, if he gets a couple of goals early he will lift the team.
7. Carlton best attribute is defenitley its hard ball gets, if it puts pressure on West Coast throughout the match all over the ground they will give up ball 9 out of 10 times, West Coast wont know whats hit them, the Eagles cant handle the pressure and the Blues will capitalise on the mistakes that will be made from the man on man game that Carlton will play. All other teams have been afraid to play the hard ball game with West Coast thinking that they have to play the running game to beat them. West Coast are too good at the running game and will win every time. Carlton will be able to make the game a hard scrappy afair, which they will already be prepared to win, and like I said West Coast wont know what is going on in front of their eyes.
There it is. This Sunday you will proclaim me a football mastermind.
This is the reason why Adrian and his faries invented Bay 13
2. West Coast are without Judd, and they are rubbish without Judd.
ok so all thoes games at the start of the season wheer judd got sub 15 posetions, they weer still rubish?
anyway, damn i was hoping i'd get thoes 2cents return on my dollar
ok...
to the OP
how much $$$ would you be willing to put on it?
Blues_Man
7 Jun 2006, 20:33
ok so all thoes games at the start of the season wheer judd got sub 15 posetions, they weer still rubish?
anyway, damn i was hoping i'd get thoes 2cents return on my dollar
hows grade 3 coming along ?
its just sporn mum
7 Jun 2006, 20:33
im really really sorry. i love carlton to death but i laughed uncontrollably whilst reading the post
Arcadion
7 Jun 2006, 20:34
That's fine "funhouse". But are you going to own up and post in this thread again if you are wrong?
Wilbur35
7 Jun 2006, 20:38
Simpson, Carrazzo under-rated? Don't think so. Don't even think they would be rated.
Wilbur35
7 Jun 2006, 20:40
im really really sorry. i love carlton to death but i laughed uncontrollably whilst reading the post
Good that you are able to see the humour :D Nothing wrong with a little optimism I guess, even if it is a little misplaced....
I suppose we will see Sunday night, we could all be laughing.
Go the Blue Boys, I have hope... kick it long to Fevola and we are a chance.
Didn't Freo beat West Coast this year? We only lost to them (Freo) by 15 pts and a poor start cost us. If we are in front at quarter time, I'd hover around the big screen at the local pub for one major boil over.
If Carlton did beat West Coast, would we all give it to West Coast? I would hope so.
I would still give it to West Coast even if they won by 50 points by the way, really, lets be truthful, Carlton shouldn't score.
C4[2]Yo`DooR
7 Jun 2006, 20:50
Fev will maul the West Coast defenders ... Darren Glass :o LMAO
but yeah, they'll still beat us.
Jeremias
7 Jun 2006, 20:56
please, BigFooty posters, in no way does this fool represent us all. We will gret beaten this week. WCE are a very good side, we are not.
Seriously, I am all for the optimistic approaches to games, but don't let this optimism get in the way of common sense.
WCE by 58 points.
I suppose we will see Sunday night, we could all be laughing.
Go the Blue Boys, I have hope... kick it long to Fevola and we are a chance.
Didn't Freo beat West Coast this year? We only lost to them (Freo) by 15 pts and a poor start cost us. If we are in front at quarter time, I'd hover around the big screen at the local pub for one major boil over.
If Carlton did beat West Coast, would we all give it to West Coast? I would hope so.
I would still give it to West Coast even if they won by 50 points by the way, really, lets be truthful, Carlton shouldn't score.
Id go as far as saying Carlton will be in front at quarter time.
Our first quarters have been a disgrace this year!
Have only won 4 out of 10 first quarters this year I reckon.
But the way we finished last week sometimes suggests that we will start well the following week. - But you guys ended well too.
The Old Dark Navy's
7 Jun 2006, 21:21
We have one forward at the moment, don't worry about West Coast's forward line. Fev can't do it alone and even with Fish and Waitey in, they would be starved for opportunities.
hows grade 3 coming along ?
Save that question until he gets there.
ICanDressMyself
7 Jun 2006, 21:38
Anyone else notice how many "if this can happen" and "if that can happen" lines he put in there.
If Carlton were good they would win. But they're not.
Gilbert_Hodge
7 Jun 2006, 21:44
Here are reasons why.
1. West Coast dont rate Carlton as a team (as they probably shouldnt) and will go into the game thinking that it will be a one hundred point thrashing and hardly try in the first quarter. Calrton always get run over in the first quarter and gradually close the gap throughout the match. The opening term will consist of Calrotn kicking a couple of quick goals leaving West Coast stunned for the first term, which would leave Carlton in the advantage as they always have trouble getting off the ground and only start playing good footy after the first quarter break. And unlike Geelong Carlton wont choke.
2. West Coast are without Judd, and they are rubbish without Judd. They let Geelong get to a 54 point lead which the Cats would have extended if they had not run out of legs. When they are winning who is playing the best on ground? When they are losing who do they look to for inspiration? Who is the best midfielder in the league? The answer to all those questions is Chris Judd and West Coast are a shambles without him (dont be confused by the shambles of a match against the cats). When your gameplan is put all around one man it is no secret that your team will go to hell when they lose the said man (See Essendon) and West Coast do not have a plan to play without Judd . Cousins is a glorified pretty boy, Kerr = Camporeale and would be reguarded as a second string player at any other team, Flecther is more worried about how many stats he picks up then actually playing well and the less said about the rest of West Coasts midfield the better.
3. Kind of a rehash of point 1 but West Coast are arrogant (See last years West Coast V Collingwood game)
4. Alot of people have probably already noticed this but West Coast have no forwards, they rely on kicking all their goals from their midfield (which did I mention is Judd-less). With all their forwards terrible, all the set shots will come from 25 meters away from goal or shots on the run from 50. Lance Whitnall should be able to cover the 25 meter area around goal with the form that he is in, which leaves the long bombs from 50 which statistically dont have much hope of getting in.
5. I know what your thinking (either 'is this guy for real?' or 'what about Carlton, dont they suck?'), yes well Carlton do suck but where West Coast are lacking the Blues have in spades. The midfield will be lead by Stevens who hasnt had a great seaon but thats only because he gets the opposing teams best tagger and can only manage around 15 possesions every game but West Coast dont have a good tagger which should leave Stevens to rack up plenty of possesions and be able to feed the ball of to Carltons running players, Simpson, Walker and Carrazzo, all under-rated players who will fall under West Coasts radar (with the possible exception of Walker).
6. Carlton do have forward options, namley Fevola who is second on the goal kicking and provides a great option to kick to, if he gets a couple of goals early he will lift the team.
7. Carlton best attribute is defenitley its hard ball gets, if it puts pressure on West Coast throughout the match all over the ground they will give up ball 9 out of 10 times, West Coast wont know whats hit them, the Eagles cant handle the pressure and the Blues will capitalise on the mistakes that will be made from the man on man game that Carlton will play. All other teams have been afraid to play the hard ball game with West Coast thinking that they have to play the running game to beat them. West Coast are too good at the running game and will win every time. Carlton will be able to make the game a hard scrappy afair, which they will already be prepared to win, and like I said West Coast wont know what is going on in front of their eyes.
There it is. This Sunday you will proclaim me a football mastermind.
I proclaim you a football idiot
The funniest thing bout that post was Carltons best attribute is there hard ball gets. In fact Carlton at this rate if they continue will have the lowest hard ball gets in AFL history (since the stat was kept), two weeks ago they broke the lowest amount of hardball gets in a game with 10, 6 came from the same player.
The facts are this Carlton side is the softest side in AFL history.
Kapow!!!
7 Jun 2006, 21:46
Good luck with that
johnnyhoward
7 Jun 2006, 22:00
Id go as far as saying Carlton will be in front at quarter time.
Remember last time at Subiaco? Carlton were ahead at quarter time. In fact, they were ahead at half time (by a goal or two). Then they got done by 77.
hot carl
7 Jun 2006, 22:05
My God. He's actually serious :confused: :confused: :confused: Better head to the bomb shelter.
94_Eagles
7 Jun 2006, 22:21
If we had have had an easy game last week I may agree.
But due to last weeks events I think we'll be switched on.
patsmith
7 Jun 2006, 22:39
Yo`DooR']Fev will maul the West Coast defenders ... Darren Glass :o LMAO
but yeah, they'll still beat us.
Darren Glass; the AA contender and rated by Barry Hall as the best FB in the AFL.
Good luck to Fev. He'll need it against Glassy.
Good luck to Fev. He'll need it against Glassy.
Glass always struggles against Fev.
Jimmy_the_Gent
7 Jun 2006, 22:45
Apparently you can get about $9 on Carlton winning this one. Not that terrible in a 2 horse race, and if West Coast actually lose you'll have money to comfort you (providing youre a west coast fan).
MrSquashed
7 Jun 2006, 22:47
LOL! 3 pages after like 2 hours maybe, this guy is a genius! :thumbsu: :thumbsu: :thumbsu: :thumbsu:
You know these kind of threads always come back to bite you in the arse! ;)
Bloods Rule!
7 Jun 2006, 22:53
It would be funny if it happened. But it's about as likely as the Tigers beating Adelaide.
patsmith
7 Jun 2006, 22:53
Glass always struggles against Fev.
Don't know about that. Fev's returns against the Eagles when Glassy was playing:
1 goal 4 behinds (Round 12 2002)
2 goals 2 behinds (Round 15 2003)
1 goal 5 behinds (Round 20 2004)
4 goals 0 behinds (Round 14 2005)
Hardly spectacular.
ECHUCABOY
7 Jun 2006, 22:56
LOL! 3 pages after like 2 hours maybe, this guy is a genius! :thumbsu: :thumbsu: :thumbsu: :thumbsu:
I'm also pretty sure Carlton will get done, however the eagles have done it pretty tough lately and could maybe run out of legs............maybe;)
Everyones so quick to jump up and dpwn and bag the person who started this thread for having an opinion and then backing up his opinion with facts and reasons for his opinion. Its a lot more than a lot of people do on here, who have nothing constructive to say and just bag out people for having their say.
If the same post was written about the tigers beating adelaide the same jokers would have piped up straight away and said the person was a nuffy and knows nothing about football etc etc.....
Upsets happen in footy all the time that barely anyone could predict, hopefully the blues get up so all you people who think you are experts can get put back in your place.
Let me leave you with this, he who chooses to go with majority and is right is right. He who goes against majority and is right can bag the crap out of the majority and love it!
GO THE BLUES!
Glass always struggles against Fev.
I think a lot of people always just remember that Wizard Cup Grand Final where Fev kicked 8. In home and Away games I dont think Fevola has done much really.
Darren Glass has developed into a really good full back. Easily top 5 in AFL now.
fishbowl
7 Jun 2006, 23:22
WC $1.04 Carlton $9.25
WC $1.04 Carlton $9.25
9.25 is great value in a two horse race. someone was saying sportsbet has them out at 11 or 12
it'll turn the change in your pocket into 4 pints.
and if carlton win, im going NEED those 4 pints.
9.25 is great value in a two horse race. someone was saying sportsbet has them out at 11 or 12
it'll turn the change in your pocket into 4 pints.
and if carlton win, im going NEED those 4 pints.
If Carlton beat West Coast Im gonna need more than 4 pints!
I reckon 4 KEGS might be in order just to read the rubbishing we would be getting on here ;)
Jimthegreat
7 Jun 2006, 23:59
On the positive side we played 8 qtrs of footy against West Coast last year, including the Wizzer, and won the first 6. Sadly, on the negative side, those last 2 qtrs saw an 87 point turnaround (we had a "big" 3rd qtr where we got all of 19 kicks....nearly one every 2 minutes......sensational!) for a 77 point loss, someting similar to the margin that will probably occur this weekend. Not looking forward to footy this weekend!!!
gdmclean come on down
I am the eggman
ekzistenz
8 Jun 2006, 01:16
1. The Eagles usually don't start very well either. The thing is they are one of the fittest teams and one of the best teams at running out games that they usually come over teams in the last half or quarter.
2. They may be no Judd but Cousins and Kerr go alright.
5. Taggers in Stenglein and Selwood. Both in very good form at the moment.
6. Our defence is one of the best in the AFL.
7. A couple of teams have already tried to make the game a scrappy affair with limited success. We are one of the top teams in clearances and contested possessions.
Keithy George
8 Jun 2006, 01:20
c'mon why isnt this thread on Bay 13 yet. :mad:
Underdog
8 Jun 2006, 01:24
5. Taggers in Stenglein and Selwood. Both in very good form at the moment.
im suprised this wasnt mentioned earlier. These 2 are as good as any other tagging combination in the comp
Don't know about that. Fev's returns against the Eagles when Glassy was playing:
1 goal 4 behinds (Round 12 2002)
2 goals 2 behinds (Round 15 2003)
1 goal 5 behinds (Round 20 2004)
4 goals 0 behinds (Round 14 2005)
Hardly spectacular.
A defender who lets his man get five or more scoring shots like that has been beaten.
The only thing I see here is that inaccuracy kept Fevola from embarrassing Glass. Also note the midfield dominance you had for most of those games.
Here are reasons why.
Cousins is a glorified pretty boy, Kerr = Camporeale and would be reguarded as a second string player at any other team, Flecther is more worried about how many stats he picks up then actually playing well and the less said about the rest of West Coasts midfield the better.
.
That statement about cousins and kerr is insulting.
Anyone who knows anything about the game would know that Kerr and cousins are genuine superstars.... i defy anyone to say they wouldn't have either of them in their side.
Underdog
8 Jun 2006, 01:31
A defender who lets his man get five or more scoring shots like that has been beaten.
The only thing I see here is that inaccuracy kept Fevola from embarrassing Glass. Also note the midfield dominance you had for most of those games.
Perhaps Glass forced him wide knowing he is very mobile ad strong. Would be good defensive work if you ask me.
weagles_fan
8 Jun 2006, 01:31
A defender who lets his man get five or more scoring shots like that has been beaten.
The only thing I see here is that inaccuracy kept Fevola from embarrassing Glass. Also note the midfield dominance you had for most of those games.
Yes but defenders often let their opponents get marks near the boundary when there is a low chance of goaling because then it is easier for them to guard the centre.
ekzistenz
8 Jun 2006, 01:32
A defender who lets his man get five or more scoring shots like that has been beaten.
The only thing I see here is that inaccuracy kept Fevola from embarrassing Glass. Also note the midfield dominance you had for most of those games.
It could just as easily been Glass forcing Fevola to lead out wide.
Underdog
8 Jun 2006, 01:33
talk about same wavelengths
SingaporeSling
8 Jun 2006, 01:43
Here are reasons why.
1. West Coast dont rate Carlton as a team (as they probably shouldnt) and will go into the game thinking that it will be a one hundred point thrashing and hardly try in the first quarter. Calrton always get run over in the first quarter and gradually close the gap throughout the match. The opening term will consist of Calrotn kicking a couple of quick goals leaving West Coast stunned for the first term, which would leave Carlton in the advantage as they always have trouble getting off the ground and only start playing good footy after the first quarter break. And unlike Geelong Carlton wont choke.
2. West Coast are without Judd, and they are rubbish without Judd. They let Geelong get to a 54 point lead which the Cats would have extended if they had not run out of legs. When they are winning who is playing the best on ground? When they are losing who do they look to for inspiration? Who is the best midfielder in the league? The answer to all those questions is Chris Judd and West Coast are a shambles without him (dont be confused by the shambles of a match against the cats). When your gameplan is put all around one man it is no secret that your team will go to hell when they lose the said man (See Essendon) and West Coast do not have a plan to play without Judd . Cousins is a glorified pretty boy, Kerr = Camporeale and would be reguarded as a second string player at any other team, Flecther is more worried about how many stats he picks up then actually playing well and the less said about the rest of West Coasts midfield the better.
3. Kind of a rehash of point 1 but West Coast are arrogant (See last years West Coast V Collingwood game)
4. Alot of people have probably already noticed this but West Coast have no forwards, they rely on kicking all their goals from their midfield (which did I mention is Judd-less). With all their forwards terrible, all the set shots will come from 25 meters away from goal or shots on the run from 50. Lance Whitnall should be able to cover the 25 meter area around goal with the form that he is in, which leaves the long bombs from 50 which statistically dont have much hope of getting in.
5. I know what your thinking (either 'is this guy for real?' or 'what about Carlton, dont they suck?'), yes well Carlton do suck but where West Coast are lacking the Blues have in spades. The midfield will be lead by Stevens who hasnt had a great seaon but thats only because he gets the opposing teams best tagger and can only manage around 15 possesions every game but West Coast dont have a good tagger which should leave Stevens to rack up plenty of possesions and be able to feed the ball of to Carltons running players, Simpson, Walker and Carrazzo, all under-rated players who will fall under West Coasts radar (with the possible exception of Walker).
6. Carlton do have forward options, namley Fevola who is second on the goal kicking and provides a great option to kick to, if he gets a couple of goals early he will lift the team.
7. Carlton best attribute is defenitley its hard ball gets, if it puts pressure on West Coast throughout the match all over the ground they will give up ball 9 out of 10 times, West Coast wont know whats hit them, the Eagles cant handle the pressure and the Blues will capitalise on the mistakes that will be made from the man on man game that Carlton will play. All other teams have been afraid to play the hard ball game with West Coast thinking that they have to play the running game to beat them. West Coast are too good at the running game and will win every time. Carlton will be able to make the game a hard scrappy afair, which they will already be prepared to win, and like I said West Coast wont know what is going on in front of their eyes.
There it is. This Sunday you will proclaim me a football mastermind.
Hello Parrot
It could just as easily been Glass forcing Fevola to lead out wide.
I've seen those games, and remember well that Glass was getting beaten in 1v1 contests, being outmaked.
Most of those shots on goals were in the 50m arc, at not too difficult angles.
I can say the same when Thronton forces Lloyd wide but got 1.7 kicked on him. Regardless, if you let your man have so many shots at goal, you are losing the contest.
Heck, I could add the Wizard Cup GF. Both teams wanted it, and Fev trounced him. But I don't think pre-season is relevant.
Underdog
8 Jun 2006, 01:47
I've seen those games, and remember well that Glass was getting beaten in 1v1 contests, being outmaked.
Most of those shots on goals were in the 50m arc, at not too difficult angles.
I can say the same when Thronton forces Lloyd wide but got 1.7 kicked on him. Regardless, if you let your man have so many shots at goal, you are losing the contest.
Heck, I could add the Wizard Cup GF. Both teams wanted it, and Fev trounced him. But I don't think pre-season is relevant.
Then Fevola is pretty crap to have such an appalling conversion rate on such a consistant basis
ekzistenz
8 Jun 2006, 01:51
I've seen those games, and remember well that Glass was getting beaten in 1v1 contests, being outmaked.
Most of those shots on goals were in the 50m arc, at not too difficult angles.
I can say the same when Thronton forces Lloyd wide but got 1.7 kicked on him. Regardless, if you let your man have so many shots at goal, you are losing the contest.
Heck, I could add the Wizard Cup GF. Both teams wanted it, and Fev trounced him. But I don't think pre-season is relevant.
Fair enough. I still disagree with you saying that a defender has been beaten if their player has had 5 scoring shots regardless of where they are.
EDIT: Woah, I just saw where 3 of us posted the same thing within a minute of eachother. Spooky.
Then Fevola is pretty crap to have such an appalling conversion rate on such a consistant basis
You call games against West Coast consistent?
He's one of the more accurate outside 50, he should have a little more goals to his name but at the moment he is sitting 2nd on the Coleman table in a crap side.
I know your side would LOVE him in your forward line. In fact, on the basis that your midfield is so dominant, he would kick 100+. Easily. Ah no, but he's crap you say so we'll keep him.
Underdog
8 Jun 2006, 02:03
You call games against West Coast consistent?
He is consistantly poor at converting against us. Can you explain why?
and FWIW I wouldnt want Fevola at our club as it would disrupt the whole team stategy. And as good as out midfield is...they are quite hopeless at delivering it onto the chest of a forward. We have the forward stocks, but not the deadly delivery from the midfield to make use of them or any other main key forward
He is consistantly poor at converting against us. Can you explain why?
Because he had the yips. Every forward has days like this from time to time.
You implied that Fevola is crap based on the fact that he hasn't converted well when he played against the Eagles. Yet you ignore the games where he kicked accurately, not to mention his current form and position on the Coleman table.
You have no argument here. You say Fevola is "pretty crap", but you have nothing to back up that claim. A few games where his kicking was inaccurate doesn't mean he's crap.
and FWIW I wouldnt want Fevola at our club as it would disrupt the whole team stategy
Rubbish. A good full forward would be a huge boost to your team and would make you much better. Especially Fevola now since he is actually in good form.
What do other Eagles supporters say? If Fevola was offered now, would they take him?
ekzistenz
8 Jun 2006, 03:03
Yeah, I'd take Fevola if we were offered him. I'm pretty sure our midfield would be able to adjust to having him here and if not then they don't deserve to be credited as the best midfield in the comp.
The Pies Are In Front
8 Jun 2006, 03:28
Eagles will kick double the Cats record in this game!!! 72 goals LOL
The Magenius
8 Jun 2006, 04:12
More like 'nuthouse'.
Tyberious Funk
8 Jun 2006, 08:42
What do other Eagles supporters say? If Fevola was offered now, would they take him?
If he was offered for free? Sure.
Arcadion
8 Jun 2006, 10:24
What do other Eagles supporters say? If Fevola was offered now, would they take him?
Nope, hate his attitude.
Obi-Haive
8 Jun 2006, 10:41
What do other Eagles supporters say? If Fevola was offered now, would they take him?
100+ you say.
That is enticing, but then Fevolas already massively swollen ego would go straight to his head and explode. We'd have traded for nothing but a dead headless corpse and a red stain on Subiaco oval.
He is consistantly poor at converting against us. Can you explain why?
and FWIW I wouldnt want Fevola at our club as it would disrupt the whole team stategy. And as good as out midfield is...they are quite hopeless at delivering it onto the chest of a forward. We have the forward stocks, but not the deadly delivery from the midfield to make use of them or any other main key forward
Yeah thats a valid point. I hear Sydney had similar problems with Barry Hall :rolleyes:
Warrack Eagles
8 Jun 2006, 10:51
If Carlton win ill go nude down the the main street in my town and video tape that sh*t:eek:
music_2000
8 Jun 2006, 10:57
Carlton MIGHT win but that don't mean I'm willing to be my life savings on them
the_messiah
8 Jun 2006, 11:18
On sunday you will be embaressed to make a comment on Bigfooty.
No matter how arrogant you can get against carlton, you sitll have no chance.
Dam, if Ballarat played you they would win..
Ha Ha Ha
Good one numbnuts :thumbsu:
If Carlton win ill go nude down the the main street in my town and video tape that sh*t:eek:
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Genesis67
8 Jun 2006, 13:21
What do other Eagles supporters say? If Fevola was offered now, would they take him?
For about a 27th round draft pick,mebbe....
EDITED: Nope, thought about it again. Not even for a 28th round draft pick...
C4[2]Yo`DooR
8 Jun 2006, 13:25
For about a 27th round draft pick,mebbe....
EDITED: Nope, thought about it again. Not even for a 28th round draft pick...
LMAO .. IQ of a doorknob
Fevola = 2 first rounders ya fkn clown
100+ you say.
That is enticing, but then Fevolas already massively swollen ego would go straight to his head and explode. We'd have traded for nothing but a dead headless corpse and a red stain on Subiaco oval.
oh well, at least he would have contributed more than lynch.:thumbsu:
Obi-Haive
8 Jun 2006, 13:53
oh well, at least he would have contributed more than lynch.:thumbsu:
:D :D Four Goals :D :D
Yo`DooR']LMAO .. IQ of a doorknob
Fevola = 2 first rounders ya fkn clown
The way you have been carrying on about how good Fev is sounds like he is the only player youve got. So why would you want to trade him!!!
Do enjoy the view at the bottom of the ladder !!
Until Fev plays in a side that delivers the ball to him we will never know how good he is. As your side are struggling to find the ball let alone deliver it, Fev is a talent wasted.....but we will never know how wasted while he stays at Carlton...... Trade him and accept 5 years of "re-building":rolleyes:
celtic_pride
8 Jun 2006, 15:59
Here are reasons why.
1. West Coast dont rate Carlton as a team (as they probably shouldnt) and will go into the game thinking that it will be a one hundred point thrashing and hardly try in the first quarter. Calrton always get run over in the first quarter and gradually close the gap throughout the match. The opening term will consist of Calrotn kicking a couple of quick goals leaving West Coast stunned for the first term, which would leave Carlton in the advantage as they always have trouble getting off the ground and only start playing good footy after the first quarter break. And unlike Geelong Carlton wont choke.
2. West Coast are without Judd, and they are rubbish without Judd. They let Geelong get to a 54 point lead which the Cats would have extended if they had not run out of legs. When they are winning who is playing the best on ground? When they are losing who do they look to for inspiration? Who is the best midfielder in the league? The answer to all those questions is Chris Judd and West Coast are a shambles without him (dont be confused by the shambles of a match against the cats). When your gameplan is put all around one man it is no secret that your team will go to hell when they lose the said man (See Essendon) and West Coast do not have a plan to play without Judd . Cousins is a glorified pretty boy, Kerr = Camporeale and would be reguarded as a second string player at any other team, Flecther is more worried about how many stats he picks up then actually playing well and the less said about the rest of West Coasts midfield the better.
3. Kind of a rehash of point 1 but West Coast are arrogant (See last years West Coast V Collingwood game)
4. Alot of people have probably already noticed this but West Coast have no forwards, they rely on kicking all their goals from their midfield (which did I mention is Judd-less). With all their forwards terrible, all the set shots will come from 25 meters away from goal or shots on the run from 50. Lance Whitnall should be able to cover the 25 meter area around goal with the form that he is in, which leaves the long bombs from 50 which statistically dont have much hope of getting in.
5. I know what your thinking (either 'is this guy for real?' or 'what about Carlton, dont they suck?'), yes well Carlton do suck but where West Coast are lacking the Blues have in spades. The midfield will be lead by Stevens who hasnt had a great seaon but thats only because he gets the opposing teams best tagger and can only manage around 15 possesions every game but West Coast dont have a good tagger which should leave Stevens to rack up plenty of possesions and be able to feed the ball of to Carltons running players, Simpson, Walker and Carrazzo, all under-rated players who will fall under West Coasts radar (with the possible exception of Walker).
6. Carlton do have forward options, namley Fevola who is second on the goal kicking and provides a great option to kick to, if he gets a couple of goals early he will lift the team.
7. Carlton best attribute is defenitley its hard ball gets, if it puts pressure on West Coast throughout the match all over the ground they will give up ball 9 out of 10 times, West Coast wont know whats hit them, the Eagles cant handle the pressure and the Blues will capitalise on the mistakes that will be made from the man on man game that Carlton will play. All other teams have been afraid to play the hard ball game with West Coast thinking that they have to play the running game to beat them. West Coast are too good at the running game and will win every time. Carlton will be able to make the game a hard scrappy afair, which they will already be prepared to win, and like I said West Coast wont know what is going on in front of their eyes.
There it is. This Sunday you will proclaim me a football mastermind.
LOL Parrot's back :D
JinmboJones
8 Jun 2006, 17:21
Don't know about that. Fev's returns against the Eagles when Glassy was playing:
1 goal 4 behinds (Round 12 2002)
2 goals 2 behinds (Round 15 2003)
1 goal 5 behinds (Round 20 2004)
4 goals 0 behinds (Round 14 2005)
Hardly spectacular.
Well I'm no mathematician, but I'd take a punt that Fev's return on Sunday will be 1 goal. Anyone agree? ;)
Todd_Gack
8 Jun 2006, 20:32
Well I'm no mathematician, but I'd take a punt that Fev's return on Sunday will be 1 goal. Anyone agree? ;)
he's got less hair now than he did back then, which makes him more aerodynamic and therefore too speedy for glass, since glasses have never been renowned for speed, and better eyesight doesnt help you when fevola is fifty metres on his own.
im predicting fevola to kick about fifty goals, but carlton will still lose
The midfield will be lead by Stevens who hasnt had a great seaon but thats only because he gets the opposing teams best tagger and can only manage around 15 possesions every game but West Coast dont have a good tagger which should leave Stevens to rack up plenty of possesions
Gotta say i'm trembling with fear thinking about all those possies stevens will get.
As for no tagger, stenglein mate?
Anythings possible, but as the afl website says, 3 things in life are now certain, death, taxes and now a west coast win over carlton....
Admire the passion tho
WCEforeverman
8 Jun 2006, 21:11
Because he had the yips. Every forward has days like this from time to time.
You implied that Fevola is crap based on the fact that he hasn't converted well when he played against the Eagles. Yet you ignore the games where he kicked accurately, not to mention his current form and position on the Coleman table.
You have no argument here. You say Fevola is "pretty crap", but you have nothing to back up that claim. A few games where his kicking was inaccurate doesn't mean he's crap.
Rubbish. A good full forward would be a huge boost to your team and would make you much better. Especially Fevola now since he is actually in good form.
What do other Eagles supporters say? If Fevola was offered now, would they take him?
yes but he is too comfortable in melbourne to leave.
Baxter Stockman
8 Jun 2006, 21:20
i agree.
Coastal Rocks
8 Jun 2006, 21:33
Here are reasons why.
1. West Coast dont rate Carlton as a team (as they probably shouldnt) and will go into the game thinking that it will be a one hundred point thrashing and hardly try in the first quarter. Calrton always get run over in the first quarter and gradually close the gap throughout the match. The opening term will consist of Calrotn kicking a couple of quick goals leaving West Coast stunned for the first term, which would leave Carlton in the advantage as they always have trouble getting off the ground and only start playing good footy after the first quarter break. And unlike Geelong Carlton wont choke.
2. West Coast are without Judd, and they are rubbish without Judd. They let Geelong get to a 54 point lead which the Cats would have extended if they had not run out of legs. When they are winning who is playing the best on ground? When they are losing who do they look to for inspiration? Who is the best midfielder in the league? The answer to all those questions is Chris Judd and West Coast are a shambles without him (dont be confused by the shambles of a match against the cats). When your gameplan is put all around one man it is no secret that your team will go to hell when they lose the said man (See Essendon) and West Coast do not have a plan to play without Judd . Cousins is a glorified pretty boy, Kerr = Camporeale and would be reguarded as a second string player at any other team, Flecther is more worried about how many stats he picks up then actually playing well and the less said about the rest of West Coasts midfield the better.
3. Kind of a rehash of point 1 but West Coast are arrogant (See last years West Coast V Collingwood game)
4. Alot of people have probably already noticed this but West Coast have no forwards, they rely on kicking all their goals from their midfield (which did I mention is Judd-less). With all their forwards terrible, all the set shots will come from 25 meters away from goal or shots on the run from 50. Lance Whitnall should be able to cover the 25 meter area around goal with the form that he is in, which leaves the long bombs from 50 which statistically dont have much hope of getting in.
5. I know what your thinking (either 'is this guy for real?' or 'what about Carlton, dont they suck?'), yes well Carlton do suck but where West Coast are lacking the Blues have in spades. The midfield will be lead by Stevens who hasnt had a great seaon but thats only because he gets the opposing teams best tagger and can only manage around 15 possesions every game but West Coast dont have a good tagger which should leave Stevens to rack up plenty of possesions and be able to feed the ball of to Carltons running players, Simpson, Walker and Carrazzo, all under-rated players who will fall under West Coasts radar (with the possible exception of Walker).
6. Carlton do have forward options, namley Fevola who is second on the goal kicking and provides a great option to kick to, if he gets a couple of goals early he will lift the team.
7. Carlton best attribute is defenitley its hard ball gets, if it puts pressure on West Coast throughout the match all over the ground they will give up ball 9 out of 10 times, West Coast wont know whats hit them, the Eagles cant handle the pressure and the Blues will capitalise on the mistakes that will be made from the man on man game that Carlton will play. All other teams have been afraid to play the hard ball game with West Coast thinking that they have to play the running game to beat them. West Coast are too good at the running game and will win every time. Carlton will be able to make the game a hard scrappy afair, which they will already be prepared to win, and like I said West Coast wont know what is going on in front of their eyes.
There it is. This Sunday you will proclaim me a football mastermind.
I'm still not convinced.
surpstar
8 Jun 2006, 21:52
I'm surprised at how fired up all these eagles supporters are with this thread.
Or is it that you guys are a little scared of the mighty blues?
Parrot would of wrote it like this :thumbsu:
Here are reasons why.1. West Coast dont rate Carlton as a team (as they probably shouldnt) and will go into the game thinking that it will be a one hundred point thrashing and hardly try in the first quarter. Calrton always get run over in the first quarter and gradually close the gap throughout the match. The opening term will consist of Calrotn kicking a couple of quick goals leaving West Coast stunned for the first term, which would leave Carlton in the advantage as they always have trouble getting off the ground and only start playing good footy after the first quarter break. And unlike Geelong Carlton wont choke.2. West Coast are without Judd, and they are rubbish without Judd. They let Geelong get to a 54 point lead which the Cats would have extended if they had not run out of legs. When they are winning who is playing the best on ground? When they are losing who do they look to for inspiration? Who is the best midfielder in the league? The answer to all those questions is Chris Judd and West Coast are a shambles without him (dont be confused by the shambles of a match against the cats). When your gameplan is put all around one man it is no secret that your team will go to hell when they lose the said man (See Essendon) and West Coast do not have a plan to play without Judd . Cousins is a glorified pretty boy, Kerr = Camporeale and would be reguarded as a second string player at any other team, Flecther is more worried about how many stats he picks up then actually playing well and the less said about the rest of West Coasts midfield the better.3. Kind of a rehash of point 1 but West Coast are arrogant (See last years West Coast V Collingwood game)4. Alot of people have probably already noticed this but West Coast have no forwards, they rely on kicking all their goals from their midfield (which did I mention is Judd-less). With all their forwards terrible, all the set shots will come from 25 meters away from goal or shots on the run from 50. Lance Whitnall should be able to cover the 25 meter area around goal with the form that he is in, which leaves the long bombs from 50 which statistically dont have much hope of getting in.5. I know what your thinking (either 'is this guy for real?' or 'what about Carlton, dont they suck?'), yes well Carlton do suck but where West Coast are lacking the Blues have in spades. The midfield will be lead by Stevens who hasnt had a great seaon but thats only because he gets the opposing teams best tagger and can only manage around 15 possesions every game but West Coast dont have a good tagger which should leave Stevens to rack up plenty of possesions and be able to feed the ball of to Carltons running players, Simpson, Walker and Carrazzo, all under-rated players who will fall under West Coasts radar (with the possible exception of Walker).6. Carlton do have forward options, namley Fevola who is second on the goal kicking and provides a great option to kick to, if he gets a couple of goals early he will lift the team.7. Carlton best attribute is defenitley its hard ball gets, if it puts pressure on West Coast throughout the match all over the ground they will give up ball 9 out of 10 times, West Coast wont know whats hit them, the Eagles cant handle the pressure and the Blues will capitalise on the mistakes that will be made from the man on man game that Carlton will play. All other teams have been afraid to play the hard ball game with West Coast thinking that they have to play the running game to beat them. West Coast are too good at the running game and will win every time. Carlton will be able to make the game a hard scrappy afair, which they will already be prepared to win, and like I said West Coast wont know what is going on in front of their eyes.
There it is. This Sunday you will proclaim me a football mastermind.
WCEforeverman
8 Jun 2006, 22:10
Here are reasons why.
1. West Coast dont rate Carlton as a team (as they probably shouldnt) and will go into the game thinking that it will be a one hundred point thrashing and hardly try in the first quarter. Calrton always get run over in the first quarter and gradually close the gap throughout the match. The opening term will consist of Calrotn kicking a couple of quick goals leaving West Coast stunned for the first term, which would leave Carlton in the advantage as they always have trouble getting off the ground and only start playing good footy after the first quarter break. And unlike Geelong Carlton wont choke.
2. West Coast are without Judd, and they are rubbish without Judd. They let Geelong get to a 54 point lead which the Cats would have extended if they had not run out of legs. When they are winning who is playing the best on ground? When they are losing who do they look to for inspiration? Who is the best midfielder in the league? The answer to all those questions is Chris Judd and West Coast are a shambles without him (dont be confused by the shambles of a match against the cats). When your gameplan is put all around one man it is no secret that your team will go to hell when they lose the said man (See Essendon) and West Coast do not have a plan to play without Judd . Cousins is a glorified pretty boy, Kerr = Camporeale and would be reguarded as a second string player at any other team, Flecther is more worried about how many stats he picks up then actually playing well and the less said about the rest of West Coasts midfield the better.
3. Kind of a rehash of point 1 but West Coast are arrogant (See last years West Coast V Collingwood game)
4. Alot of people have probably already noticed this but West Coast have no forwards, they rely on kicking all their goals from their midfield (which did I mention is Judd-less). With all their forwards terrible, all the set shots will come from 25 meters away from goal or shots on the run from 50. Lance Whitnall should be able to cover the 25 meter area around goal with the form that he is in, which leaves the long bombs from 50 which statistically dont have much hope of getting in.
5. I know what your thinking (either 'is this guy for real?' or 'what about Carlton, dont they suck?'), yes well Carlton do suck but where West Coast are lacking the Blues have in spades. The midfield will be lead by Stevens who hasnt had a great seaon but thats only because he gets the opposing teams best tagger and can only manage around 15 possesions every game but West Coast dont have a good tagger which should leave Stevens to rack up plenty of possesions and be able to feed the ball of to Carltons running players, Simpson, Walker and Carrazzo, all under-rated players who will fall under West Coasts radar (with the possible exception of Walker).
6. Carlton do have forward options, namley Fevola who is second on the goal kicking and provides a great option to kick to, if he gets a couple of goals early he will lift the team.
7. Carlton best attribute is defenitley its hard ball gets, if it puts pressure on West Coast throughout the match all over the ground they will give up ball 9 out of 10 times, West Coast wont know whats hit them, the Eagles cant handle the pressure and the Blues will capitalise on the mistakes that will be made from the man on man game that Carlton will play. All other teams have been afraid to play the hard ball game with West Coast thinking that they have to play the running game to beat them. West Coast are too good at the running game and will win every time. Carlton will be able to make the game a hard scrappy afair, which they will already be prepared to win, and like I said West Coast wont know what is going on in front of their eyes.
There it is. This Sunday you will proclaim me a football mastermind.
ok as you have made a very articulate argument i will make an articulate rebuttal.
1. Why should WC rate carlton? However after last week they certainly won't let carlton get under their guard.
2. I don't understand the argument that WCE are rubbish without judd. Sure he is the leauges best midfielder atm, but it's WCE number of QUALITY midfielders that is their strength. Although you think Cousins is a pretty boy he is a much better midfielder than your best, stevens. Kerr, Fletcher, Embely and Stenglein would be walk up starts to any other team. Oh yeah and im backing that Woosh isn't even gonna bother about putting a tagger on stevens, he isn't damaging enough.
3. When your on top of the ladder you are allowed to be
4. I conceed fevola is a good forward, but he is your only good forward. WCE have a number of ok forwards. Also WCE rest their midfielders in the forward line. And if any of them aren't firing we just throw HuntAAA down there.
5. carlton only have one good midfielder. enough said
6. as stated by another poster, weren't they the team with the lowest amount of hard ball gets?
There, on sunday everyone will proclaim me as stating the obvious
Truth Personified
8 Jun 2006, 22:11
I'm surprised at how fired up all these eagles supporters are with this thread.
Or is it that you guys are a little scared of the mighty blues?
Any subject in a position of power will react poorly when their authority is questioned.
You were going well, up until "scared of the mighty blues", couldnt scare the Lion out of the wizard of Oz Atm.
Truth Personified
8 Jun 2006, 22:31
Perhaps "the hardball get" situation may be put to rest, along with all the other assertions that Carlton in any way have an edge over West Coast
http://http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/compare_teams?tid1=116&tid2=103
Good call :o
i can't believe wce poster wouldn't take fev if he was offered. i'm betting he kicks 4 this weekend.
Goldenblue
9 Jun 2006, 00:02
Here are reasons why.
1. West Coast dont rate Carlton as a team (as they probably shouldnt) and will go into the game thinking that it will be a one hundred point thrashing and hardly try in the first quarter. Calrton always get run over in the first quarter and gradually close the gap throughout the match. The opening term will consist of Calrotn kicking a couple of quick goals leaving West Coast stunned for the first term, which would leave Carlton in the advantage as they always have trouble getting off the ground and only start playing good footy after the first quarter break. And unlike Geelong Carlton wont choke.
1. No team in the AFL rate Carlton as a team, why are the Eagles so different?
2. Geelong really did not choke, West Coast were a different side after half time, and Geelongs only mistake was to defend too much and try and save the game.
2. West Coast are without Judd, and they are rubbish without Judd.
Even the coaches such as Danhier and Eade has scoffed at those thoughts. Even they agree that if one is not playing well, a Cousins and a Kerr or an Embley bob up. I am sure these gentlemen have more knowledge of the side than you do.
Cousins is a glorified pretty boy,
Idiot. Brownlow medallist.
Kerr = Camporeale and would be reguarded as a second string player at any other team,
More idiocy. Runner up last year, couragous player who gives his all. Would be one of the first picked in any other side in ther comp.
3. Kind of a rehash of point 1 but West Coast are arrogant (See last years West Coast V Collingwood game)
2005 board.
4. Alot of people have probably already noticed this but West Coast have no forwards, they rely on kicking all their goals from their midfield (which did I mention is Judd-less). With all their forwards terrible, all the set shots will come from 25 meters away from goal or shots on the run from 50. Lance Whitnall should be able to cover the 25 meter area around goal with the form that he is in, which leaves the long bombs from 50 which statistically dont have much hope of getting in.
West Coast's forward line is doing and developing well. Many players fill in any voids and West Coast have a team capable of kicking a winning score. (see ladder for proof)
The midfield will be lead by Stevens who hasnt had a great seaon but thats only because he gets the opposing teams best tagger and can only manage around 15 possesions every game but West Coast dont have a good tagger which should leave Stevens to rack up plenty of possesions and be able to feed the ball of to Carltons running players,
West Coast have plenty of good taggers, I'd say Stinger will get the job on Stevens.
6. Carlton do have forward options, namley Fevola who is second on the goal kicking and provides a great option to kick to, if he gets a couple of goals early he will lift the team.
You speak about a lack of a forward line for WC? You hypocrite. If I remember correctly, in a recent game, Fev was the only player to score goals for Carlton, so Carlton simply lack a forward line.
7. Carlton best attribute is defenitley its hard ball gets, if it puts pressure on West Coast throughout the match all over the ground they will give up ball 9 out of 10 times,
Right....:rolleyes:
West Coast wont know whats hit them, the Eagles cant handle the pressure and the Blues will capitalise on the mistakes that will be made from the man on man game that Carlton will play.
Our players will make your players look soft.
All other teams have been afraid to play the hard ball game with West Coast thinking that they have to play the running game to beat them. West Coast are too good at the running game and will win every time. Carlton will be able to make the game a hard scrappy afair, which they will already be prepared to win, and like I said West Coast wont know what is going on in front of their eyes.
Surely you jest?
There it is. This Sunday you will proclaim me a football mastermind.
Sunday you shall be proclaimed a fool. You really must be dreaming....
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Goldenblue
9 Jun 2006, 00:09
i can't believe wce poster wouldn't take fev if he was offered. i'm betting he kicks 4 this weekend.
Agreed, I would love him at the Eagles.
Truth Personified
9 Jun 2006, 00:14
1. No team in the AFL rate Carlton as a team, why are the Eagles so different?
2. Geelong really did not choke, West Coast were a different side after half time, and Geelongs only mistake was to defend too much and try and save the game.
Even the coaches such as Danhier and Eade has scoffed at those thoughts. Even they agree that if one is not playing well, a Cousins and a Kerr or an Embley bob up. I am sure these gentlemen have more knowledge of the side than you do.
Idiot. Brownlow medallist.
More idiocy. Runner up last year, couragous player who gives his all. Would be one of the first picked in any other side in ther comp.
2005 board.
West Coast's forward line is doing and developing well. Many players fill in any voids and West Coast have a team capable of kicking a winning score. (see ladder for proof)
West Coast have plenty of good taggers, I'd say Stinger will get the job on Stevens.
You speak about a lack of a forward line for WC? You hypocrite. If I remember correctly, in a recent game, Fev was the only player to score goals for Carlton, so Carlton simply lack a forward line.
Right....:rolleyes:
Our players will make your players look soft.
Surely you jest?
Sunday you shall be proclaimed a fool. You really must be dreaming....
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I'd suggest Selwood will get that role, Stenglien to Kouta.
AHHAHHAH........i couldnt stop laughing while reading that, thanks man!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA this thread is a joke
I'm afraid to say this will suffer the same fate of many of Parrot's threads.