Pit Bulls

[oh_my_hat]

The only fear that I have walking my dogs these days in the local streets is being attacked by a stray Pit Bull.

These dogs have no place in our society and should be culled. If it's good enough to cull kangaroos surely there could be a case to rid us of these beasts. 2 more attacks recently must have the law makers close to passing some legislation.

What are they waiting for? Another death to make sure!!

[Frodo]

OMH = OMG :eek:

beware of Harry Potter and his older sister :D

[Asgardian]

Man oh man, I am so jealous

I wish I had done your post, well done by the way

You are totally correct, but certain parties here, with very biased and narrow points of view, will attack you saying you have no idea.
Whereas it is they who ignore the common good just to pander to their own prejudices.
It is they who have no regard for community safety, just as long as their own selfish desires are catered to.

Disregard the loud obnoxious vocal fringe dwelling minority sect, their voice is one that carries no weight, their opinion has no validation, their argument based on hear-say, ignoring all facts and logic.

They, along with their mis-begotten dog of choice, enhance our society NOT one iota, they are both feral and vicious, attacking without cause, in short, they are both dangers to our society.

[Dippers Donuts]

How did I know that both Frodo and Asgardian would respond to this thread...

[Asgardian]

clairvoyant?.:confused:

[oh_my_hat]

I'm waiting for the onslaught from the vested interest groups Asgardian. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Pessimistic]

Dog breeders are basically Nazis anyway

(That should do it)

[mantis]

Originally posted by Dippers Donuts
How did I know that both Frodo and Asgardian would respond to this thread...

Dipper

I hope they aren't too upset at having a wasted fishing trip. :D

[Frodo]

Originally posted by mantis


Dipper

I hope they aren't too upset at having a wasted fishing trip. :D

Caught one..........shucks, it's only a blowfish :D

[ah_19]

get rid of all violent breeds of dogs i say
put the rest on a leash
if they arent on a leash introduce them to a bullet

i for one get sick of stupid dog owners bringing 4 giant drooling dogs onto the oval when you want to go for a run to have every one of them chase after you. they wont attack, but you can never trust them, so you have to stop and face them.

Grrr.....

on and dont you just feel utter sadness for the human race when you see people walking behind thier dogs waiting for it to "do its business" so they can pick it up in thier bags. please people if youre one of them, stop demeaning the human race.

[mantis]

ah 19 I agree, all dogs should be walked on a lead when in public & should be fenced in their backyards, not roaming the streets, but then that is the owners fault when that doesn't happen, not the dogs, irresponsible owners are to blame. You have a pet you love fine, but other people shouldn't have to be bothered by them.

[Frodo]

Originally posted by mantis
ah 19 I agree, all dogs should be walked on a lead when in public & should be fenced in their backyards, not roaming the streets, but then that is the owners fault when that doesn't happen, not the dogs, irresponsible owners are to blame. You have a pet you love fine, but other people shouldn't have to be bothered by them.

Absolute agreement on that one Sandie. Only addition is that dog beaches are an exception and that owners need to restrain dogs when someone come to the door (I had a Jack Russell hanging from my thigh once having gone to someones house had the door opened and had a flying dog sink its jaws into my leg and lock them. After release . six stitches and a tetanus jab I was alright but the owners refused to pay for the ripped trousers)
I also think it is quite correct to pick up the excretia. No-one wants to walk in it or smell it and flies breed in it. Corks don't work ;)

The think about Pit Bulls is a genetic one and although they can be trained to be gentler that dark side lurks in the background. Fortunately genetics will soon identify the offending gene and the breed will change temperament.

[Blues_Brat]

I work part time at the local classified ads mag and someoen rang up on Tuesday to advertise a Pit Bull. I am usually pretty dyslexic when it comes to typing, lucky I checked it before it was printed, the ad was nearly for a Bit Pull. :D

[mantis]

Originally posted by Blues_Brat
I work part time at the local classified ads mag and someoen rang up on Tuesday to advertise a Pit Bull. I am usually pretty dyslexic when it comes to typing, lucky I checked it before it was printed, the ad was nearly for a Bit Pull. :D

:D :D :D :D :D

Would have been interesting to see if you got any replies.:eek:

[Dippers Donuts]

It's funny, my little titch of a dog (a Jack Russell) counts amongst his best doggie friends, two very fearsome looking Pit Bull terriers (a mother and son). I was shhitting myself when he first encountered them; but now they're great buddies. It's amusing watching my little dog all over these two dogs.

I think a lot of the problems with Pit Bulls over the years has been due to the wrong people owning them. For some reason, immature young men like to own them, good for the image I suppose. These young men tend to be aggressive by nature and goad/encourage their dogs to be the same.

A question: Can aggressive behaviour be passed on genetically? IE is it a fact that pit bulls are more aggressive than other breeds? I believe they were bred as hunting dogs initially but I would be interested to know if such qualities are passed on genetically.

[Frodo]

Originally posted by Dippers Donuts
A question: Can aggressive behaviour be passed on genetically? IE is it a fact that pit bulls are more aggressive than other breeds? I believe they were bred as hunting dogs initially but I would be interested to know if such qualities are passed on genetically.


Yes it can, and the question of genetic engineering is a subject of huge debate. Let me see if I can find a link I had to a good article about it..............mmmmmmmmmmm..........yes...try this

http://www.biopsychiatry.com/

good read on that page but click on the 'Hedonistic Imperative' and also the liks in the bottom paragraph of the main page.

[Dippers Donuts]

Originally posted by Frodo



Yes it can, and the question of genetic engineering is a subject of huge debate. Let me see if I can find a link I had to a good article about it..............mmmmmmmmmmm..........yes...try this

http://www.biopsychiatry.com/

good read on that page but click on the 'Hedonistic Imperative' and also the liks in the bottom paragraph of the main page.

Yikes, could you make the material any denser Frodo!?

Cheers, looks interesting, when I have a clearer head and a spare 48 hours I'll give it a closer gander.

[mantis]

Dipper
I wasn't going to get into the genetics or hereditary thing, because I know there are a couple of people ready to jump in if I did, but what the hey.
I can tell you now, if a dog is brought up with love & discipline, not used for hunting or dog fights, that dog will be no different to any other breed of dog, 80% of dogs were originally breed for hunting & killing, even poodles, terriers were bred to hunt out & kill rats, born killers some may say, but if they are bred into a situation where they aren't trained for killing, but being a companion then that is what they will be, genetics, pffftt.

An aside Dipper, my Kenny has a girlfriend over the road who escapes frequently & always comes over to my place to play with him, she is a chihuaha X pomeranian, only as big as Kenny's head, he is so gentle when he plays with her, he always lies down on his stomach & just hits her with his paw or licks her, the owners at first freaked, but now they laugh that their little dog has a pit bull on his knees so to speak.:D

[Sherman]

Pit bull dogs, eh?

Alright - let's have some fun . . .

Here's the riddle and you supply the punchline:

What's the difference between a pit bull and a religious fundamentalist?

[mantis]

OK Jerk what is the answer.:mad:

[Sherman]

Originally posted by mantis
OK Jerk what is the answer.:mad:

??

Pardon me?

I'm completely in the dark as to why you're offended. . .

[Frodo]

Originally posted by mantis
Dipper
I can tell you now, if a dog is brought up with love & discipline, not used for hunting or dog fights, that dog will be no different to any other breed of dog, 80% of dogs were originally breed for hunting & killing, even poodles, terriers were bred to hunt out & kill rats, born killers some may say, but if they are bred into a situation where they aren't trained for killing, but being a companion then that is what they will be, genetics, pffftt.



absolute uneducated rubbish

[Asgardian]

Originally posted by Sherman
What's the difference between a pit bull and a religious fundamentalist?

A religious fundamentalist doesn't ALWAYS try to kill you

[Blues_Brat]

Hmmm

I was always a fan of that joke, "What is the difference between a Pit Bull and a female Port supporter?" :D

[mantis]

I like the one "What's the difference between a Pit Bull & a male Port supporter"? the Pit Bull's better looking. :D

[Mooster7]

The solution is to allow law abiding citizens to carry fire arms (criminals already have one in their pocket). A .44 magnum revolver trumps a dog every time.

If you are attacked (without a gun handy) Do this:

Place one hand over your groin area, and one to cover your throat. These are the areas which trained dogs go for, and the ones ferral dogs tend to attack instinctively. Make sure your palms are inward toward you so that the arteries located on the inner part of your wrists and arm aren't exposed.

The dog will then go after one of your arms. This is the hard part - let the dog chew on the outside of one of your arms. While he is chewing hell out of your arm, lower your body so that you are both close to the ground (this gives you the full weight advantage you naturally have over the dog). Then break one of the dogs front legs using the hand that isn't being currently mauled. A dogs' leg will move forward, backward and somewhat inward - but not out. Pull the leg outward like you are disconnecting a chicken wing.

This will give you even more leverage over the dog. He may even release you from his bite (I doubt this with a pit bull). If he does release you, run like hell. He cannot follow with his broken leg. If he still has you in his maw, try to choke him to death. You can also beat upon his left rib cage with your elbow. Take full advantage of your leverage superiority.

When you are finished with all of this, learn new hobbies which require the use of only one arm. Peace,

Mooster

[Dippers Donuts]

Don't worry about that Malarkey Mooster, just kick 'em in the nuts and run.

I see you belong to the Charlton Heston school of gun control, ie shoot them first before they shoot you. I liked his response to the Columbine massacre "if the teachers had guns, they could have shot first..."

[Thrawn]

I agree about what should be done to those horrid Pit Bulls and other violent dogs, but everyone seems to be overlooking one aspect of this subject: the owners.

Now, it would be logicial to say that a pet dog is violent to other people merely because the dog was treated very badly by the owners, or had a really bad experience or few when the dog was a pup, say, that a bunch of teenagers tourmented the dog. You've got to take these into consideration, and ask yourself "Why did these dogs attack in the first place. Is it based on instinct, or is it based on the fact that the dog's owners treated it poorly?" The answer to that question? Both. But sometimes the answer can vary.

I do not own a pit bull... (in fact I used to own a Golden Retriver years ago, before he died at the old age of 14 :( ), but I have heard stories that children have been mauled by Pit Bulls on the dog's turf. Say that the child is climbing the fence, just for fun, and he accidently fell into the next door neighbour's backyard. There are a few parties to blame on these incidents:

If the child is old enough (say 10+), the child should have known better, and not go over the fence when there is a hostile dog in the first place. At least his parents or teachers should have told him this a long time ago. And who is to say that the child did not upset or tease the dog in the first place? Should be old enough to use common sense, no?

But if the child is younger, blame the parents. A five year old child, left unsupervised whilst climbing a fence, and there is a pontentially dangerous animal on the other side? Parents should know better than to not keep an eye of their child if there is a dangerous risk involved.

Blame the owners. If the child was supervised, then why was the dog let loose, without a leash, or at least a muzzel? The ignorance of dangerous dog owners outstound me, and should at least pay a large fine for their stupidity.

And finally, the dog. Remember, the above situations are only hypothetical, but if the dog used this for instinct, then I say put it to death, but only if the owners do not follow the rules of keeping a muzzel on the dog at all times in public, on a leash.

There are a lot of variables, but my conclusion is that all of the above has to get the blame... not just the dog.

[Fat Red]

Originally posted by Mooster7
The solution is to allow law abiding citizens to carry fire arms (criminals already have one in their pocket). A .44 magnum revolver trumps a dog every time.

The difference between Australia's homicide rate and pit bull killing rate combined and Amerrica's homicide rate goes against you.