View Full Version : Our 2nd half of the season.
Thrice3
14 Jun 2006, 02:44
Ok. Now its the half way mark, this is how I see our season unfolding from here. Terry believes the teams fitness will peak around this time and continue till the end of the season, so we should run out games much better. I see us finishing with 6 more wins for the season, finishing with 12 wins which should get us into the 8 just. A few games I rate as 50/50 chance.
Round 12
Hawthorn vs. Richmond
Hawks got belted by Port, will be tired from travelling to AAMI and will be low on confidence.
Round 13
Richmond vs. Collingwood
The Dees gave them a taste of reality, I reckon the Pies are playing on confidence, we should beat them, but a possible danger game.
Round 14
Port Adelaide vs. Richmond
Port Adelaide are a bottom 5 side, they've been belted by the Dogs and Lions at AAMI, it is possible to win, last year we came close to knocking them off there.
Round 15
Richmond vs. Melbourne
Melbourne are tough at the G, there still a class above us, can't see us winning.
Round 16
Sydney Swans vs. Richmond
They beat us by 118pts in Melbourne, tough ask to beat them at the SCG, although we basically had no backline that day.
Round 17
St Kilda vs. Richmond
Can't pick a winner, I say this games 50/50, its at the G and not the Dome, I dont rate St Kilda that highly, we fell short by like 9pts last time we played them.
Round 18
Richmond vs. Western Bulldogs
I believe we are a much better side than the team that played in Round 1, at the G, 50/50 but the Dogs will probably win.
Round 19
Richmond vs. Brisbane Lions
First time we've played them in Melbourne, beat them up at the Gabba, and we'll beat them again.
Round 20
Carlton vs. Richmond
Carlton are a rabble, it is at the Dome tho, should win.
Round 21
Richmond vs. Essendon
Its at the G, they will still be 16, we've improved since we played them, and they've gotten worse.
Round 22
Richmond vs. West Coast Eagles
This game is a 50/50 also, it is at the G, we match up pretty well with them, fell short by 2pts last year, we were beating them until half time at Subiaco this year.
Feel free to post your thoughts.
richo1982
14 Jun 2006, 04:05
i think your post is rather biased and not many neutrals would agree with a lot of your predictions there. however I as a close follower of richmond believe our team might just be coming together now and if we stay injury free and browny builds on that promise he showed on sat we could be in for something special in the coming weeks and shock the football world. The odds suggest we will fall away though so it will be interesting
Tigerland
14 Jun 2006, 08:36
From AFL website : season predictions.
RICHMOND
Now: 9th, 6-5. Prediction: 9th, 12-10.
Opposition supporters mockingly renamed the club Ninth-mond in the late `90s as the Tigers frequently found ways to just miss out on the September action. To be fair, ninth would be a good effort this year for a young team with plenty of room for further improvement. A poor percentage could also come back to bite Richmond in the push for a berth in the lower reaches of the eight.
*Has any team ever won 12 and missed out - I certainly can't recall it happening. I would think that 12 wins = definate finals. 11 = we miss.
12 is achievable. If we beat the Hawks we're a good chance. If we lose we're a long shot.
The Dice Man
14 Jun 2006, 08:47
Im pretty sure only 2 teams have won 12 and still missed out on finals. One of those teams was us, and I think teh Hawks were the other one.
The way I see it, if we want to play finals, we can only lose 4 more games for the rest of the season, OR we need to thrash a couple of teams by 15 goals plus... at least twice, in order to repair our %, and even then, we could only afford to lose 5 at the most.
tomthetiger
14 Jun 2006, 09:11
Most of those games will be very, very hard to win, if not all of them. We cant predict what will happen, only sit back and watch.
turtle27
14 Jun 2006, 09:17
Our games after the Hawks will be very very tough, but then we have an easier run home with Lions, Blues, Bombers, and finish with the Eagles. We'll need to win one or two of the next half dozen to scrape in. Methinks we may just miss out.
Stafford678
14 Jun 2006, 11:33
Our games after the Hawks will be very very tough, but then we have an easier run home with Lions, Blues, Bombers, and finish with the Eagles. We'll need to win one or two of the next half dozen to scrape in. Methinks we may just miss out.
If the eagles are set in stone for 1st place, come round 22 i have a feeling the likes of cousins, judd, cox, wirrapunda, hunter and kerr might have a week off and save up for the first final, and possibly let gardiner, wooden, and there other depth players to have a crack and try impress for finals.
Captain_Brown_7
14 Jun 2006, 11:49
If the eagles are set in stone for 1st place, come round 22 i have a feeling the likes of cousins, judd, cox, wirrapunda, hunter and kerr might have a week off and save up for the first final, and possibly let gardiner, wooden, and there other depth players to have a crack and try impress for finals.
Couldn't disagree more.
It will be a dress rehearsal for the Eagles at the G in round 22. They will come out in full force and try to absolute give us a hiding. The last thing you want going into a finals series is a lack of momentum. West Coast would be absolutely stupid doing what you have stated.
We could lose this week to Hawthorn and come out and beat Swans in Sydney. That's the nature of the beast that is footy. With our crap %, I reckon we would absolutely need to win 12 games minimum. I reckon we might even need to win 13 to guarantee it. At the moment Blues, Bummers and Hawks are easybeats and you could probably throw North in there as well. Top sides and middle-rung sides are probably going to beat these teams. That's why Geelong's win last week counted for bugger all. All other teams are going to beat Essendon, so by beating them, Geelong just treaded water for a week. It's the wins against the sides above you and the sides that are competing for a bottom place in the eight that are important.
Up until now we have had our fair share of injuries, and to be 6-5 at the half way mark with players coming back must give us confidence coming back from the break.
The Hawks game is a must win.
It would be great to beat Collingwood but we must respect the season that they have had. But saying that, TW would have spent a fair bit of time analysing their game plan and I think we would make them more accountable then most teams that have played them.
The game I think we wil have a good gmatch against is Melb. We always play well against them.
tigerdan
14 Jun 2006, 12:05
Couldn't disagree more.
It will be a dress rehearsal for the Eagles at the G in round 22. They will come out in full force and try to absolute give us a hiding. The last thing you want going into a finals series is a lack of momentum. West Coast would be absolutely stupid doing what you have stated.
Don't you remember rd 22, 2001???
Essendon played a whole heap of players in strange positions that week so that the Tigers (if they won) would finish 4th.
And in the first week of finals we played Essendon and they smashed us.
Not saying you are wrong, but there have been precedents where teams rest in the last week if the win make no difference at all.
Hello Newman!
14 Jun 2006, 13:10
*Has any team ever won 12 and missed out - I certainly can't recall it happening. I would think that 12 wins = definate finals. 11 = we miss.
12 is achievable. If we beat the Hawks we're a good chance. If we lose we're a long shot.
Since the final 8 system was introduced we won 12 games in 94' and missed out on percentage, as we did in 98', Hawthorn missed out by a game and percentage in 03'.
Hello Newman!
14 Jun 2006, 13:32
At the moment Blues, Bummers and Hawks are easybeats and you could probably throw North in there as well. Top sides and middle-rung sides are probably going to beat these teams. That's why Geelong's win last week counted for bugger all. All other teams are going to beat Essendon, so by beating them, Geelong just treaded water for a week. It's the wins against the sides above you and the sides that are competing for a bottom place in the eight that are important.
Great point, our games against others above us are as they stand now:
Wins:
Adelaide
Losses:
West Coast, Sydney, Western Bulldogs, St. Kilda, Fremantle
Haven't played yet:
Collingwood
Melbourne
We've still got a lot to prove before we start talking finals, and Terry would be well aware of this. Narrow losses to Freo and Saints hurt but are essential to establish yourself in the top 8
Madtiger2006
14 Jun 2006, 13:34
we should beat wc last round. They are quite beatable at the G and I was disappointed we lost to them last year after a weak first half. I think we will need 13 wins to make the 8 because of our percentage. We'll probably finish 9th grrrrr
turtle27
14 Jun 2006, 14:43
If the eagles are set in stone for 1st place, come round 22 i have a feeling the likes of cousins, judd, cox, wirrapunda, hunter and kerr might have a week off and save up for the first final, and possibly let gardiner, wooden, and there other depth players to have a crack and try impress for finals.That might be wishful thinking Staff. The Freo loss will come back to hurt us I reckon.
Captain_Brown_7
14 Jun 2006, 14:53
Don't you remember rd 22, 2001???
Essendon played a whole heap of players in strange positions that week so that the Tigers (if they won) would finish 4th.
And in the first week of finals we played Essendon and they smashed us.
Not saying you are wrong, but there have been precedents where teams rest in the last week if the win make no difference at all.
Totally different scenario...
1. Essendon were playing at the G every second week that season, so they didn't have to get used to playing on the ground, whereas West Coast get minimal time at the G and would use the game against us as a full dress-rehearsal.
2. Essendon knew they could account for us in rnd 22 that year, but if they did so they would have played Carlton who have a history of beating them in finals. Therefore, they tanked the round 22 game (not rested players) simply due to the fact that they knew they were gonna smash us in the first week of the finals :o
Darth_Tiger
14 Jun 2006, 16:55
i tend to agree, west coast will come out all guns blazing. will be a very satisfying win if we do it.
Wally Matera
14 Jun 2006, 19:29
Most of those games will be very, very hard to win, if not all of them. We cant predict what will happen, only sit back and watch.
And take away all of the fun???? :cool:
tomthetiger
14 Jun 2006, 20:37
No, predicting what games we should win isnt fun, its scary, you put the mochas on them!
metallichris
14 Jun 2006, 22:51
Round 12
Hawthorn vs. Richmond
Should win.
Round 13
Richmond vs. Collingwood
-Won't beat Collingwood. We are getting to ahead of ourselves.
Round 14
Port Adelaide vs. Richmond
-Doubtful. Should push them though.
Round 15
Richmond vs. Melbourne
-Won't beat them.
Round 16
Sydney Swans vs. Richmond
-Most likely won't.
Round 17
St Kilda vs. Richmond
-Doubt we will win, always a chance at the G though.
Round 18
Richmond vs. Western Bulldogs
-They are a classier outfit, even with injuries their footskills are still lethal.
Round 19
Richmond vs. Brisbane Lions
-Should win.
Round 20
Carlton vs. Richmond
-Should win.
Round 21
Richmond vs. Essendon
-Will win.
Round 22
Richmond vs. West Coast Eagles
-Could win, West Coast aren't great in Melbourne.
All games I believe we are a chance in; we will be competitive which is all I could've hoped for after Round 1 this year.
Bojangles17
14 Jun 2006, 23:27
Feel free to post your thoughts.
lets just take one week at a time, we're poised to have a crack at the top 8 however making long term forecasts is straight from the clacker type stuff and for all its worth, thats probably where it should stay...:eek:
Bentleigh
15 Jun 2006, 00:02
From AFL website : season predictions.
RICHMOND
Now: 9th, 6-5. Prediction: 9th, 12-10.
Opposition supporters mockingly renamed the club Ninth-mond in the late `90s as the Tigers frequently found ways to just miss out on the September action. To be fair, ninth would be a good effort this year for a young team with plenty of room for further improvement. A poor percentage could also come back to bite Richmond in the push for a berth in the lower reaches of the eight.
*Has any team ever won 12 and missed out - I certainly can't recall it happening. I would think that 12 wins = definate finals. 11 = we miss.
12 is achievable. If we beat the Hawks we're a good chance. If we lose we're a long shot.
:mad:
tomthetiger
15 Jun 2006, 11:32
Nothing wrong with coming 9th this year Bentleigh, we can still pick up a gun player.
Thrice3
11 Jul 2006, 02:16
I've got two predictions right. :)
Truetiger
11 Jul 2006, 12:21
Were not aloud to say the F word as yet surely. As theres still along way to the top lol.
Punt_Road_Roar
11 Jul 2006, 13:25
From AFL website : season predictions.
RICHMOND
Now: 9th, 6-5. Prediction: 9th, 12-10.
Opposition supporters mockingly renamed the club Ninth-mond in the late `90s as the Tigers frequently found ways to just miss out on the September action. To be fair, ninth would be a good effort this year for a young team with plenty of room for further improvement. A poor percentage could also come back to bite Richmond in the push for a berth in the lower reaches of the eight.
*Has any team ever won 12 and missed out - I certainly can't recall it happening. I would think that 12 wins = definate finals. 11 = we miss.
12 is achievable. If we beat the Hawks we're a good chance. If we lose we're a long shot.
In 94 & 98 we won 12 games and finished 9th the only other time was Hawthorn in 2003 who finished with 12 wins and missed
Big Punt
11 Jul 2006, 14:17
In 94 & 98 we won 12 games and finished 9th the only other time was Hawthorn in 2003 who finished with 12 wins and missed
Finishing 9th with 12 wins is a distinct possibility. Either Freo or Geelong could finish with 12 wins and superior percentage to us.
Fremantle have 5 winnable games and if Geelong somehow re-capture their pre-season form, winning 6 from 8 is not out of the question for them, especially with 3 games at Skilled Stadium and a couple of "away" games against lowly opposition.
Assuming we get over Brisbane, Carlton and Essendon, I think we need to win 2 out of Melbourne, Sydney, StKilda, Bulldogs and West Coast to secure a finals berth.
Having said all that - whilst finals this year would be nice, it is not essential to the long-term development of the team. I won't be losing any sleep if we don't make it.
The White Tiger
11 Jul 2006, 15:00
Finishing 9th with 12 wins is a distinct possibility. Either Freo or Geelong could finish with 12 wins and superior percentage to us.
Fremantle have 5 winnable games and if Geelong somehow re-capture their pre-season form, winning 6 from 8 is not out of the question for them, especially with 3 games at Skilled Stadium and a couple of "away" games against lowly opposition.
Assuming we get over Brisbane, Carlton and Essendon, I think we need to win 2 out of Melbourne, Sydney, StKilda, Bulldogs and West Coast to secure a finals berth.
Having said all that - whilst finals this year would be nice, it is not essential to the long-term development of the team. I won't be losing any sleep if we don't make it.Freo(LAUGHABLE) and Geelong(DREAMERS) are no chance,they have no heart to make it and as the kangas showed on the weekend the bottom sides still have some giant killing to do as do the Mighty Tigers. EAT EM ALIVE TIGERS!