Dockers vs Eagles rd1 derby

[daddy_4_eyes]

What do you dockers supporters fans reckon will be the result?




P.S. This board's a busy one :D

[anchor man]

It's very early to be making predictions,but I think the Dockers can win the first game of the season as they should have last season.It would be magnificent to see the Toasters supporters walking out weeping tears of blood as they did the first time we beat them in a home game.Some said it rained but it really was the tears of their supporters.Nyuk Nyuk.

[masai]

The Dockers have to pull their finger out this year and there are alot of signs to show that they are ready to go forward ( admin, coaching panel and player shakeups.). That said, I reckon it is their best chance to start getting ahead of the Eagles.

The Dockers will start the season with only a couple of players still not in full fitness. The Eagles will have 5 players coming back from knee injuries and although they are good players, I doubt if they will be ready (WAFL maybe).

The Dockers have an improved forward line and the backs should be better with another tall released to go back. The middle is the question mark, if we get the ball there anything can happen.

In essence I feel the Eagles will only be able to field 80% of their best players (injuries), whereas the Dockers should be able to field around 90% of their best. Thus the Dockers should have an advantage and they've got to take it.

[daddy_4_eyes]

So who voted "freo by 100+pts"? Sabre?? ;)

If any of you want to read eagles fans thoughts on this game feel free to visit the eagles board, we've got a whole thread on it there. Just no trolling, don't ruin a perfectly good thread.

[sabre_ac]

Originally posted by daddy_4_eyes
So who voted "freo by 100+pts"? Sabre?? ;)

If any of you want to read eagles fans thoughts on this game feel free to visit the eagles board, we've got a whole thread on it there. Just no trolling, don't ruin a perfectly good thread.

LOL Maybe maybe

So your saying that we have permsion to go there LOL
Your idea of trolling is anything anti eagles which will most likely be pro freo.

[jod23]

Eagles by 30+....simple as that!

[daddy_4_eyes]

Originally posted by sabre_ac
LOL Maybe maybe

So your saying that we have permsion to go there LOL
Your idea of trolling is anything anti eagles which will most likely be pro freo.

My idea of trolling is if someone comes in and says ***** like "eagles fans are scum" or something along the lines. But yeah, i give you my permission to come to our board ;)

[dockerbabe]

Originally posted by daddy_4_eyes


My idea of trolling is if someone comes in and says ***** like "eagles fans are scum" or something along the lines. But yeah, i give you my permission to come to our board ;)

what makes you think that we need your permission to go into your board?
what just because we don't waste our time on that board, what that means that we are waiting for your permision
anywayz i think i will stay away from your board if there is a whole topic just dedicated to the derby it is a waste of time because none of us will ever agree on anything and it ends up turning into the same thing and well i think we should all just save it until the day more energy to actually cheer for the teams instead of just sitting there pretending to be the supporter supporting the better team

[daddy_4_eyes]

Originally posted by dockerbabe
what makes you think that we need your permission to go into your board?

Geez, whats your problem? It was a little joke between Sabre and me.

[dockerbabe]

Originally posted by daddy_4_eyes


Geez, whats your problem? It was a little joke between Sabre and me.

yeah have you heard of such a thing as sarcasm i was just jokin u aint the only one around here that is aloud to joke

[blockerhall]

I cannot tell a lie.

It was I who chopped down the cherry tree.

I'm off to sportsbet to put some money on it now.

[RacerX]

eagles suck. Dockers will deliver them the pineapple in round-1, and they will deliver it in the most uncomfortable place.

I hope Phil "punchin bag" Read gets a gallop. He's due for another bitch slappin.

[MellyBelly]

I personally cant wait to see Phil Read cop a hiding (and have whichever Docker is responsible for doing it avoid the umpires wrath) and to see Ashley McIntosh figure out what to do now that he can't hold Mods by his shirt and stand on his feet!

Oh yeah and I cant wait to see the Dockers flog em in the most crushing defeat in the Eagles history! Carn the Dockers.;)

[Goldenblue]

Eagles by 6 goals....

Will be a walk in the park against these hapless idiots and poor excuse of a football club......

:D

[TheRealBuzz]

I love how Kickett's claim to fame is "he punched Phillip Read" and "He's played for 5 clubs".

Read's greatest revenge on Kickett will be playing ten years at the same club, and retireing with a reputation as a fierce competitior and not a thug.

[sabre_ac]

Originally posted by TheRealBuzz
I love how Kickett's claim to fame is "he punched Phillip Read" and "He's played for 5 clubs".

Read's greatest revenge on Kickett will be playing ten years at the same club, and retireing with a reputation as a fierce competitior and not a thug.

I love how eagle supporters presume that kickett wasnt and isnt a good player.
He on more than one occasion cleaned up the eagle player he was playing on.
Gave the club great heart and was a great clearance player..

Read was suspended twice in his first year.
He is a disgrace to the game a dirty player that doesnt do it out of neccessity like libba he does it cause he enjoys it.
Which in my books makes him worse.

[Voice of Reason]

Originally posted by sabre_ac


I love how eagle supporters presume that kickett wasnt and isnt a good player.
He on more than one occasion cleaned up the eagle player he was playing on.
Gave the club great heart and was a great clearance player..

Read was suspended twice in his first year.
He is a disgrace to the game a dirty player that doesnt do it out of neccessity like libba he does it cause he enjoys it.
Which in my books makes him worse.

Actually I've always quite liked Kickett. Ex-Eagle, good player.

Read isn't dirty, just ill-disciplined and I have great hopes that Woosha will sort him out so he can channel his aggression in the right direction.

Eagles by 24 points.

[TheRealBuzz]

Hmmm, I don't think I'll be as nice as you VOR.

Calling Read a 'disgrace to the game' and 'a dirty player' is pure stupidity, and something I'd only expect to read in a Sabre Post.

Read is a tenacious little warrior, who loves his club and always gives 100%.
Yes he was suspended in his first year, but for what? A tripping charge which was simply a reflex action.

Bit different from going into a game where your sole focus is to have a punch up - ie Kickett - and then get handed a nine week suspension.

And you're right Sabre, I don't think Kickett is a good player. Neither did my club, Fitzroy, Essendon and StKilda.

[anchor man]

Originally posted by TheRealBuzz
Hmmm, I don't think I'll be as nice as you VOR.

Calling Read a 'disgrace to the game' and 'a dirty player' is pure stupidity, and something I'd only expect to read in a Sabre Post.

Read is a tenacious little warrior, who loves his club and always gives 100%.
Yes he was suspended in his first year, but for what? A tripping charge which was simply a reflex action.

Bit different from going into a game where your sole focus is to have a punch up - ie Kickett - and then get handed a nine week suspension.

And you're right Sabre, I don't think Kickett is a good player. Neither did my club, Fitzroy, Essendon and StKilda.
Read is an ill disciplined dirty little t^rd and got everything he deserved off Kickett.Oh how wrong four clubs can be.

[ArdenSt]

Couldn't agree with you more anchor man. Read seems to think that he is going to be the next Libba!! He is an overated player who will get dealt with if he continues the sniper tactics behind the play he has been involved in so far in his career.

Him and Gardiner were completely responsible for that Western Derby brawl, and if the Eagles supporters took an unbiased view at it, they might actually see that. Gardiner started the pushing and shoving down in the goalsquare with a kid playing about his 5th game at the time, and then threw a punch at him. I was no more than 20m away from it at the time. Eagles supporters like to forget this for some reason. From there is where the game got out of control. Gardiner started it. Have a look at the whole game and you will see it. Kickett was undisciplined in the events that follwed, but he was just one of many and was unfortunate to have everything caught on camera. He deserved the 9 weeks probably, but he was no loner.

As for him not being a good footballer, you have got to be kidding. He has been Freo's most consistent player over there history because he has been given a chance to prove himself over a long period of time. The other clubs were too quick to trade/delist him. Sheedy regrets it to this day.

And one last comment on someone that said that Worsfold will help him sort himself out. Please!!! He was a dirty little sniper if ever there was one. He effort on having a go at McGuane after the siren in a final in '94 was a disgrace. He deserves no respect after that and many other incidents during his dubious career.


Good luck to freo on their climb up the ladder this year.

Cheers, ArdenSt

[Goldenblue]

Originally posted by ArdenSt

And one last comment on someone that said that Worsfold will help him sort himself out. Please!!! He was a dirty little sniper if ever there was one. He effort on having a go at McGuane after the siren in a final in '94 was a disgrace. He deserves no respect after that and many other incidents during his dubious career.

McGuane gave Mainwaring a hard time all day if you watch the video, plus Woosha gave back to McGuane what Mcguane had been doing all day to Mainy. Well done Woosha...good to see him stick up for his team mates

Good luck to freo on their climb up the ladder this year.
Yeah...right...

Cheers, ArdenSt


:D

[eagleskickass]

Originally posted by ArdenSt
Him and Gardiner were completely responsible for that Western Derby brawl, and if the Eagles supporters took an unbiased view at it, they might actually see that. Gardiner started the pushing and shoving down in the goalsquare with a kid playing about his 5th game at the time, and then threw a punch at him
Well i am going to go out on a limb and agree that Gardiner did start the pushing and shoving. This was actually the first time i was at an AFL game live, and i was in the 2 tier stand, so saw the incident. I do agree that gards threw the first punch, but will not agree that Gards and Read were completely responsible. Everyone who was involved was responsible for that brawl, there is always 2 sides to the story, and each of us takes the opposite, so the truth is probably somewhere in between.
All this said, i think it is about time we get over it. There is no point dwelling on it.
I will agree i have been annoyed with some of the things read has done, but he is not as bad as you all say he is.
And about Dale Kickett. He is a good player, but he was not at his previous clubs. He has really gone well at Freo, but i don't know what got into him on that day.

Also, the comment about Woosha. It was only a few years ago people were calling for the return of similar things, saying the game lacked a bit of that kinda thing. Today none of us want it.
If I were to go back and look at many of Victoria's past champions, i am sure i would find many of them had done worse things than woosha, but at the time, in that context, had been praised for it. It was part of the game then, it just isn't now.
And you can all now say it was a bad part, but deep down you know a lot of people liked to see that in their team, as that sort of thing back then was part of how they tried to show who was superior.

[masai]

Well said Eaglekickass, it takes two to tango and on that day both sides were at fault and did things that were not very cute.

Let's move on and look at the future for both clubs, there are some good young players in both sides, I would love to see last years win total for the W.A. sides of 7 being doubled to at least 14 this year.

As for round one, I'll just check on who's available before I make any "brash" predictions.

Bring on the "Farmer" Cup.

[Voice of Reason]

Originally posted by TheRealBuzz
Hmmm, I don't think I'll be as nice as you VOR.

Calling Read a 'disgrace to the game' and 'a dirty player' is pure stupidity, and something I'd only expect to read in a Sabre Post.

Read is a tenacious little warrior, who loves his club and always gives 100%.
Yes he was suspended in his first year, but for what? A tripping charge which was simply a reflex action.

Bit different from going into a game where your sole focus is to have a punch up - ie Kickett - and then get handed a nine week suspension.

And you're right Sabre, I don't think Kickett is a good player. Neither did my club, Fitzroy, Essendon and StKilda.

Actually it was Andrew Williams who was done for reflex tripping in his first game (Brisbane away), whereas Read was done for a pretty soft punch on Aaron Hamill (Carlton), albeit provoked.

Don't worry about Sabre - the definition of optimism has changed from "a rat sliding down a razor blade using his balls as brakes" to "Sabre in pre-season".

[goal_umpire]

Originally posted by Voice of Reason


Actually it was Andrew Williams who was done for reflex tripping in his first game (Brisbane away), whereas Read was done for a pretty soft punch on Aaron Hamill (Carlton), albeit provoked.

Don't worry about Sabre - the definition of optimism has changed from "a rat sliding down a razor blade using his balls as brakes" to "Sabre in pre-season".

go dockers go

[dockerbabe]

Originally posted by TheRealBuzz

Bit different from going into a game where your sole focus is to have a punch up - ie Kickett - and then get handed a nine week suspension.



i can not believe you can say something like that
only an imatture little brat (ie eagles supporter like you)could say something so unrealistic and false
that particular derby it was gardiner that started it he went out there with the plan to start stuff
i was right there about 10 metres from where it happened and he started laying into pavo for absolutely no reason, or atleast only something a 5 year old would do

[Esperito]

Nobody goes into a match seeking a nine week suspension.
Especially someone who knows they'll be serving out all nine weeks. ( ie. not retiring)

[tashibatts]

They'll draw- 46 all!

Or the eagles will win 48-46
Or the dockers will win 46-44!

Hahahaa- Go Roos

[TheRealBuzz]

Originally posted by dockerbabe
i can not believe you can say something like that
only an imatture little brat (ie eagles supporter like you)could say something so unrealistic and false
that particular derby it was gardiner that started it he went out there with the plan to start stuff
i was right there about 10 metres from where it happened and he started laying into pavo for absolutely no reason, or atleast only something a 5 year old would do Dockerbabe, I too was at the match, and it wasn't simply a case of Gardiner going ape $hit for no reason. There was a lot of talk, and a lot of "pushing" around Gardy's heavily strapped shoulder beforehand. But yeah, Gardy did over-react.

Besides of which, what does that incident have to do with the Kickett / Read altercation. Nothing.

Your players went into the match looking for a fight. Waterhouse and Koops admitted as much.
And there's nothing wrong with that, in fact I really enjoyed the whole game..... except for the end result ;).

But it's very hypocritical to call Read a 'disgrace to the game' while applauding what Kickett did during that particular Derby.
That was my only problem.

[dockerbabe]

Originally posted by TheRealBuzz
while applauding what Kickett did during that particular Derby.
That was my only problem.

i have never applauded what kickett done it was good to see everyone layin into each other but what the main few players done was bad and when waterhouse talked to the media he was laughin and joking hardly somethin to take serious
unlike the comment that karl langdon made before the game about gardiner

[Frodo]

Oh for the glorious history of the one point rare win obtained by orchestrated thuggery!!!

Well kiddies, we've both got new coaches, new players, won our first mickey mouse cup matches impressively and have something to look forward to.
Round one will be the first time we really see what our respective coaches have in store for us and all the predictions in the world cannot have any sound basis because we just don't know. We can only dream and hope.

CARN THE EAGLES

[anchor man]

Ok Frodo I'll bite,orchestrated thuggery!!!!!By Who or is that Whom.I seem to recollect that unstable thug Gardner attacking Pavlich before the ball was bounced.Your and your mob are behaving like the school yard bully.It is all right when you are handing it out but when someone stands up to you you run like rabbits to the headmaster.What a bunch of sooks.Get over it

[S.J Rollin]

WORD ANCHOR MAN!

Whenever that game is mentioned... the weagle supporters collective memory goes on the blink and their attitude towards on field brawling is as pacifistic as a convent full of the Little Sisters of Mercy.

Kickett smashed their "tenacious little warrior" to a pulp in a staight up fist fight...and by God...I applauded every little bit of it!!!

he did the crime...he did the time.

Read had the same intent... he just fights like a girl!

[TheRealBuzz]

Yes, and a big congrats to Kickett.
He'll go down in history as the guy who beat up Phil Read.
See if people remember the incident (or Kickett for that matter) in a few years time.

There are bigger things in store for our tenacious little warrior.
And they don't involve punching people.

Still, with your pathetic history, I can understand why you see it as some sort of achievement.

[sabre_ac]

Originally posted by TheRealBuzz
Yes, and a big congrats to Kickett.
He'll go down in history as the guy who beat up Phil Read.
See if people remember the incident (or Kickett for that matter) in a few years time.

There are bigger things in store for our tenacious little warrior.
And they don't involve punching people.

Still, with your pathetic history, I can understand why you see it as some sort of achievement.

How you can stick up for read I will never know.
In ten years the only way read will be remeber is when his name is mentioned with libba as one of the dirtiest players to play the game.

Make no mistake this kid cannot be mistaken for couragerous he is plain dirty.Foul mouthed little **** that has no problems stooping to the lowest levels possible.

[S.J Rollin]

[[QUOTE]He'll go down in history as the guy who beat up Phil Read.

...you said it buzz. He certainly will!

I am sure we will remember both Dale and the incident...

to hear the sound of Dale's fist punch crash into face of that rodent will stay with me forever.

Dale is already written in the record books for playing at the most number of clubs. What he will be remembered for in the hearts and souls of Docker Fans for years to come is his fantastic contribution to the Fremantle Football Club from their struggling formative years to their rise to glory.

Something dramatic would need to happen to Read as a player (and a man if he can be considered one) for him to be known as nothing more than a bloke that copped a real lesson from Dockers' Dale and Dodd.

[TheRealBuzz]

Just as I said.

With your pathetic history, I can understand why you see it as some sort of achievement.

You should go add it to the 'top 10 fremantle moments' thread.
God knows there aint much else to put in there.

[S.J Rollin]

Of course it made my top ten... It was marvellous!

But depsite you closet Freo facination you fail to know where the feeling is coming from.

nobody wants to see fista-cuffs week in week out. It is not a desirable part of modern football, but in the same breath it is good to know what our lads can do when the doogs are up...

it wasnt some sort of achievement in a quantifiable on the scoreboard sense... it is more the underlying spirit at the very heart of competition that rose to the surface in a brutal yet righteous manner.

It had been too long coming for Read and that day he met his Judge, Jury and Executioner...(and it if werent for Modra, McIntosh and a maggot or two) he most surely would have met his maker!

Your posts here, there and everywhere on threads across Fremantle pages display some sort of homo-erotic facination with footballers and the game.... talk of posters of your favourite looking player/s in your bedroom is best left to the privacy of your bedroom. If that is you thing... fine...but we dont really want to here about it on Fremantle threads... Reserve that sort of gear to your own board where you can sit around and hold hands and all talk about Ben Michael, Phil or whomever is really doing it for you at the time.

Dale is the man here!

[TheRealBuzz]

Good to see the sarcasm wasn't lost on you.

Don't worry, my post at Dockerlands was just a little joke. :rolleyes:

[carneagles]

Originally posted by S.J Rollin
nobody wants to see fista-cuffs week in week out. It is not a desirable part of modern football, but in the same breath it is good to know what our lads can do when the doogs are up...

it wasnt some sort of achievement in a quantifiable on the scoreboard sense... it is more the underlying spirit at the very heart of competition that rose to the surface in a brutal yet righteous manner.

1. So, are you for biffo or against it? Nah, you just want a bet each way, don't you?

2. Where was the "underlying spirit" when your blokes folded like card tables in the week before (83pts) and after (107pts)?

3. Is Kickett punching Read actually in your top 10 memorable Freo moments? No, seriously?

Maybe the fascination some fans have with the Read punch-up is that Kickett stood up and was counted in a team where that has happened a bit too rarely. Or maybe the hatred amongst some fans is so fierce that any victory over an Eagle (even if you're running one over on a zebra crossing in your car) is to be celebrated. Bit of a worry either way.

Oh, and Eagles by four goals in the derby - that is, in a "quantifiable on the scoreboard sense"

[S.J Rollin]

1.) Of Course it is an each way bet you clown. I love to see a bit of Biffo!!! A bit!...I dont want to see our game dominated by it such that folk who dont know what Australian Football is all about cant see past the rough & tumble. Or Mothers dont want there sons to participate in playing. Who says you cant win on an each bet?

2.) you got it so wrong with this one.... there is no point elaborating.

3.) yes definitely in my top 10... Well the whole day...the win, the biffo....all of it! It was just that (as stated previously), I was close enough to hear that first punch of Dale's... (mind you, they both started swinging at the same time but Read was too slow and could only Bich Slap)...anyway it cannoned into his face and the whole day was encapulated by that moment. God it was great!...

I moved from my cheap member budget seats to the more expensive and typically vacant centre wing area. (yes we have smaller crowds than the eagles). Me and a couple of other blokes i had never met before surrounded by a sea of wet toast supporters. it was terrific... and to come up trumps in all aspects was huge!!!

See if you can spot us in the crowd?


:eek: :eek: :D :eek: :eek: :eek:

[carneagles]

1. Okay, you're into biffo, fair enough - but why would you bother saying things like "it's not a desirable part of modern football" when you obviously don't mean it? Just seems weird, that's all

2. Yeah, nice non-answer

3. So you've got a punch-up in the top 10 most memorable moments of your club's entire history. Geez, what more is there to say

[jod23]

You can talk Essendon/Carlton, Essendon/Collingwood, Collingwood/Carlton, Adelaide/Port....but no rivalry on BigFooty is as fierce as ours!

If were talking thuggery then what about little Jess Sinclair. Cant remember the year or the round or who won, well probably the Eagles :D but i do remember play coming to a halt and Cousins had the ball then out of nowhere Sinclair comes running at full speed and cannons into the back of an unsuspecting Cuz. Ben's neck snaps back rather disgustingly and a small brawl ensues.

Sinclair is dirty! Anbody else remember that one....

Anyways....Sabre get your $20 bucks ready come round 1.

[Goldenblue]

Pretty sad to see they list a fight as the main moment for them....but still, if you have no premierships or finals to celebrate, you really have to scratch the bottom of the barrel...

:D

[masai]

If were talking thuggery then what about little Jess Sinclair. Cant remember the year or the round or who won, well probably the Eagles :D but i do remember play coming to a halt and Cousins had the ball then out of nowhere Sinclair comes running at full speed and cannons into the back of an unsuspecting Cuz. Ben's neck snaps back rather disgustingly and a small brawl ensues.

Sinclair is dirty! Anbody else remember that one....


Yes I remember that and Sinclair was a bloody idiot, but I think something happened before that.

My hazy memory makes me think that it may be where Brodie Holland kicked a goal and the Cuz upended him a couple of seconds after the goal. I thought it was un neccessary by Cuz, but the charge by Sinclair was very amateur. Nowdays Holland would have got a second kick for goal.

Anyway I'm looking to the future.

[Frodo]

Just watched the Port game........wow Sabre, it sure is finals time again for Freo :rolleyes:

How many weeks for Farmer?

[S.J Rollin]

Originally posted by Frodo

How many weeks for Farmer?

Two...pretty lame effort bt him and was thuggish.

Let me digress back to Dale for a moment...being well practised in the art of pugilism has nothing to do with thuggery. Thugs are often dealt lessons by the hands of Pugilists.

As for being remembered for such deeds... anybody remember a guy from Geelong by the name of Yates? Granted that he took out an absolute superstar at the first bounce on the last Saturday in September and Dale only removed a dirty little thug who cant fight from a Western Derby.

[TheRealBuzz]

Can He Fight? Who knows?

Luckily we'll be playing football in Round1, so it doesn't really matter.

Bit unfortunate for Kicketty though. :p
Did he even touch the ball in the last Derby???

[kuepper]

Originally posted by Frodo
Just watched the Port game........wow Sabre, it sure is finals time again for Freo
F*ck off troll - as bad as Freo's disposal was, yours was worse.

Go peddle your trash elsewhere, u tosser.

[sabre_ac]

Originally posted by Frodo
Just watched the Port game........wow Sabre, it sure is finals time again for Freo :rolleyes:

How many weeks for Farmer?

Finals action is within our reach.
Same thing cannot be said for the disgrace that is your team.
Your dependance on one player is terrible, if cousins doesnt get 40 possessions, your team never looks like winning.

[Voice of Reason]

Originally posted by sabre_ac
Finals action is within our reach.
Same thing cannot be said for the disgrace that is your team.
Your dependance on one player is terrible, if cousins doesnt get 40 possessions, your team never looks like winning.

At this stage of the season, all footy fans hope, pray and believe that Finals are within reach - and so they are.

Last year, if BC didn't get 35 possessions we didn't look like winning. Except against Collingwood away, when he got 35 possessions and we never looked like winning.

But that was last year.

We are now on the up. Hopefully both WA teams are on the up. But it's early days yet.

[TheRealBuzz]

Originally posted by sabre_ac
Finals action is within our reach. :D :D :D

You're a funny man/woman Sabre.

The Dockers have about as much chance playing finals football as I do. None.

[Mead]

<if cousins doesnt get 40 possessions, your team never looks like winning.>

I take it you wrote this *before* the geelong game, sabre? So cousins is an absolute star-do you expect us to apologise for this? If fremantle could find just one decent player, they might start winning games.

[Theoden]

Kicket, Farmer, Sinclair...even that elbow to the head on Fletcher by Croad.

How about anger management for the whole Freo squad.........and kuepper of course :D