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Sir Razzle
16 Jun 2006, 01:39
I'm sure this has been done a hundred times before, but its always interesting and I'm bored. So what do you think?

B: Wirrpanda Glass Parker
HB: Hunter McPharlin Stenglein
C: Braun Cousins J. Carr
HF: Haselby Pavlich Embley
F: Farmer Lynch Bell
R: Cox Judd Kerr
Int: Nicoski Longmuir Grover Fletcher

larrikin
16 Jun 2006, 01:57
I'm sure this has been done a hundred times before, but its always interesting and I'm bored. So what do you think?

B: Wirrpanda Glass Parker
HB: Hunter McPharlin Stenglein
C: Braun Cousins J. Carr
HF: Haselby Pavlich Embley
F: Farmer Lynch Bell
R: Cox Judd Kerr
Int: Nicoski Longmuir Grover Fletcher
Don't know where to start

McPharlin plays FF, so youy couldn't name him there

Carr would be the slowest Winger in AFL history, he's in the guts or not in the team

You're missing Michael Johnson, the kid can play

Grover should be starting on the ground - he'd be in the best 5 Dockers players

I probably should stop criticising and have a go myself....

Sir Razzle
16 Jun 2006, 02:23
OK, maybe put Hunter at CHB, put McPharlin on bench and Grover at half back flank. Johnson was unlucky to miss out. I nearly put him in, but couldn't justify taking someone else out. Just didnt make it though...

Sir Razzle
16 Jun 2006, 02:23
Oh and swap Carr and Cousins.

larrikin
16 Jun 2006, 02:30
OK, maybe put Hunter at CHB, put McPharlin on bench and Grover at half back flank. Johnson was unlucky to miss out. I nearly put him in, but couldn't justify taking someone else out. Just didnt make it though...
Johnson is a LOT better than Parker

masai
16 Jun 2006, 10:27
Johnson is a LOT better than Parker

Johnson is first picked from the Dockers, then look at J. Carr and Grover. Pav would get the CHF position but his form lately has been less than what the media would have you think. JLo in the ruck / bench, no, I think 211 has been better than him.

Hunter could slot in the half forward / half back line.

It is all very subjective.

Warrack Eagles
16 Jun 2006, 10:34
what about a young man by the name of ROSA:confused:

dogeatdog
16 Jun 2006, 13:51
I'm sure this has been done a hundred times before, but its always interesting and I'm bored. So what do you think?

B: Wirrpanda Glass Parker
HB: Hunter McPharlin Stenglein
C: Braun Cousins J. Carr
HF: Haselby Pavlich Embley
F: Farmer Lynch Bell
R: Cox Judd Kerr
Int: Nicoski Longmuir Grover Fletcher

I would have Chick and Graham ahead of Haselby and Longmuir!

Sir Razzle
16 Jun 2006, 14:04
I would have Chick and Graham ahead of Haselby and Longmuir!

Yeah but that's a little biased of you. As much as I love 'em. And Rosa definitely wouldn't be in the team. I love the guy and I reckon he could potentially be another cousins in 3-5 years, but he's too young and inconsistent at the moment and his disposals are still too sloppy.

The only change I could be convinced of so far is slotting in Johnson somewhere.

And JLo is on the bench, to whoever suggested it...

TheReason
16 Jun 2006, 14:15
I would have Chick and Graham ahead of Haselby and Longmuir!
Correct:thumbsu:

Haselby - is not the same player he was 3 or 4 years ago. Obviously being played injured for a long time now.

Longmuir - has not lived up to his potential. Has played his best games in the ruck, which are beyong him now.


B: Wirrpanda Glass Parker
HB: Hunter McPharlin Stenglein
C: Braun Cousins J. Carr
HF: Haselby Pavlich Embley
F: Farmer Lynch Bell
R: Cox Judd Kerr
Int: Nicoski Longmuir Grover Fletcher


Parker you are kidding right? Johnson in for Parker

J.Carr is not a wingman. He needs to be in the middle. And then it becomes a question of who is better.... Kerr or J.Carr. Therefore its Rosa or Selwood in on a wing and J.Carr out of the team.

Haselby - you basing that on his form of 4 years ago or today? Haselby out, Chick in.

Bell - past his prime. A champion in previous years, he goes out. Polak comes in. WA's best contested mark player.

Farmer....:mad: rightio then! Farmer out, and Morton in (Sampi not considered as he's in poor form).

Longmuir - as discussed previously, Out and Seaby or Gardiner or Graham in.


Therefore the team becomes:

B: Wirrpanda Glass Johnson
HB: Hunter McPharlin Stenglein
C: Braun Cousins Rosa (or Selwood)
HF: Chick Pavlich Embley
F: Morton Lynch Polak
R: Cox Judd Kerr

Int: Nicoski Seaby (or Gardiner or Graham) Grover Fletcher

There's no one else in Freo's squad that cuts the mustard.

wce4premiership
16 Jun 2006, 14:26
I'm sure this has been done a hundred times before, but its always interesting and I'm bored. So what do you think?

B: Wirrpanda Glass Parker
HB: Hunter McPharlin Stenglein
C: Braun Cousins J. Carr
HF: Haselby Pavlich Embley
F: Farmer Lynch Bell
R: Cox Judd Kerr
Int: Nicoski Longmuir Grover Fletcher

haselby wouldn't make the team

you shouldn't swap carr and cousins...embley with carr...then carr for cousins.but even still he plays in the middle better then carr

mcpharlin isn't hb anymore

aside from that i think it looks good

masai
16 Jun 2006, 16:40
Therefore the team becomes:

B: Wirrpanda Glass Johnson
HB: Hunter McPharlin Stenglein
C: Braun Cousins Rosa (or Selwood)
HF: Chick Pavlich Embley
F: Morton Lynch Polak
R: Cox Judd Kerr

Int: Nicoski Seaby (or Gardiner or Graham) Grover Fletcher

There's no one else in Freo's squad that cuts the mustard.

As I said it is all subjective but putting McPharlin in the team shows that you would be selecting on reputation not form.

McPharlin is very ordinary this year, Johnson is one of the part time CHB's (player matchup) at Freo. So McPharlin out.

If you can't make room for J. Carr, I would really question whether you have watched any footy this year.

Polak ?????.

Grover - yes.

Seaby ??? - 211 trumped him.

Morton ????, now we have the rose coloured glasses on.

Anyway it is subjective.

94_Eagles
16 Jun 2006, 17:03
McPharlin would get CHB, played his best footy there which was outstanding.

Isandula
16 Jun 2006, 17:33
I reakon if you crossed both teams colours you could call them the West Coast Rainnbows ;)

Reveler
16 Jun 2006, 19:12
B: Wirrpanda Glass Johnson
HB: Hunter McPharlin Stenglein
C: Braun Cousins Rosa (or Selwood)
HF: Chick Pavlich Embley
F: Morton Lynch Polak
R: Cox Judd Kerr


its hard not to be bias isn't it thereason?

I'll be a little bias and make a few changes

B: Wirrpanda Glass Johnson
HB: Hunter Polak Grover
C: Rosa, Cousins Kerr
HF: Chick Pavlich Embley
F: Farmer McPharlin Bell
R: Cox Judd J.Carr

Morton, Braun, Lynch, Stenglien are all good but not as good as those who I have replaced them with. I'd put J.Carr in the middle over kerr. Only thing stopping Mcpharlin is delivery, and lets face it with WCE midfield the guy would win the coleman (hell lynch looks half decent with the WCE Delivery)

8 freo players out of the 18. Bit more even now.

TheReason
16 Jun 2006, 20:08
As I said it is all subjective but putting McPharlin in the team shows that you would be selecting on reputation not form.

McPharlin is very ordinary this year, Johnson is one of the part time CHB's (player matchup) at Freo. So McPharlin out.

If you can't make room for J. Carr, I would really question whether you have watched any footy this year.

Polak ?????.

Grover - yes.

Seaby ??? - 211 trumped him.

Morton ????, now we have the rose coloured glasses on.

Anyway it is subjective.
Okay

McPharlin has slowly been degenerating at Full Forward. I think he would have been suited playing a Hunter type of game. Play 75% of game time in the backline and pinch hit in the Forward area, occassionally or a qtr each game.

I admit PharLap is out of form but who's to say that he wouldn't get his confidence back within 1 or 3 games, once he goes down back.

I have watched most Freo games. I admit J.Carr has been very good this year. However, it comes down to Kerr vs J.Carr for me, for a spot in the middle, not the wing. Therefore I pick Kerr.

Unless J.Carr gets slotted into a fwd pocket? But then he gets played out of position.

Seaby - I said Gardiner or Seaby or Graham on the bench. Sandilands not mobile enough IMO and his taps are sharked nearly every time. Whether thats his fault or the midfielders:confused:

Polak - Tore us a new one in the Derby. I have always rated him, even when the Freo faithful were baying blood last year and wanted him gone. Best contested mark player in WA, period.

Morton - I concede I was wrong. But no way on Farmer either. I'd rather J.Carr in the pocket than Farmer. I can't stand the bugger. Look he's playing okay, but he's not setting the world on fire either.


Like you said, its all subjective.

jorel6669
17 Jun 2006, 03:40
Needs a better team name...

The West Dock Coast Freagles.

Cerpin Taxt
17 Jun 2006, 06:04
B: Chick, Glass, Johnson
HB: Nicoski, Polak, Grover
C: Embley, Bell, Kerr
HF: Hunter, Pavlich, Cousins
F: Farmer, McPharlin, Wirrpanda
R: Cox Judd J.Carr
Int: -----, -----, Stenglein, Mundy

This is my 22. My biggest hesitations were Bell and Polak. The issue with Bell was that there are a number of other players that (I believe) are at his level. He was selected on his standing. McPharlin or Lynch? I think we have the luxery to pick McPharlin, but if it were ont his season's form Lynch should take the spot. I just think that when the other 5 forwards are as dangerous as they are, picking McPharlin is the right choice in terms of loss v upside.

Polak probably hasn't done enough, but you probably pick him over Graham because Johnson should have the rebound aspect covered. Those key defensive positions are not at all concrete. I think it would be the same situation as Fremantle currently; picking the best matchup rather than specifying players directly to positions. The other option of Staker would allow Hunter to drop back into defence. This could potentially be the most dangerous, but Staker isn't doing a heck of a lot as the 3rd tall right now. That wouldn't change. Having Hunter forward creates a great balance where you can honestly state that all sections of the ground are elite.

I've left two free spots up for grabs. I think one should be an outside midfielder, the other the 2nd ruck.

Ruck nominations are: Longmuir, Sandilands, Seaby and Gardiner. Each have their merits, but I think I'd choose Sandilands because the (relative :P ) versatility of the others isn't really needed with the sum of KP players selected.

The outside running player could be any number. Fletcher, Braun, Selwood, Rosa, Headland, Peake, Black and a number of other Freo midfielders where the line is quite blurred as to their role from an outside perspective. I choose Braun.

So, Int: Sandilands, Braun, Stenglein, Mundy
Possible swap: Polak for Graham/Staker.
Final Count: West Coast: 12, Fremantle: 10

wce4premiership
17 Jun 2006, 13:51
Needs a better team name...

The West Dock Coast Freagles.

i think west coast eagles will do fine on this basis:

eagles are better mascots then dockers

and

fremantle is part of the western coast anyway

my team would go like this

B: Chick, Glass, Wirrapanda
HB: Nicoski, Hunter, Grover
C: Embley, Cousins, Braun
HF: Hunter, Pavlich, Black
F: Farmer, McPharlin, Seaby
R: Cox Judd Kerr
Int: Johnson, J.Carr, Stenglein, Selwood

final count

eagles = 15
dockers = 7

Cerpin Taxt
17 Jun 2006, 18:32
Hunter twice?
Seaby?
Black?

Locky
17 Jun 2006, 21:24
Your first problem was Lynch in the team :o
here is my team

B: Wirrpanda Glass Parker
HB: Nicoski Hunter M. Carr
C: Stengline Cousins Black
HF: Embley Pavlich Polak
FF: Farmer McPharlin Kerr
FOLL: Cox Judd J. Carr
INT: Johnson Haselby Braun Bell

freo players in bold (incase you didnt notice)

wce4premiership
18 Jun 2006, 00:48
Hunter twice?
Seaby?
Black?

lol didn't realise that but then again i cbf changing it either :p

Thrawn666
18 Jun 2006, 13:22
B:Wirrpanda Glass Nicoski
HB: Selwood Hunter Stenglein
C:Braun Cousins Embley
HF: Graham Hansen Waters
F:Chick Lynch Staker
R:Cox Kerr Judd

Int: Seaby Banfield Hurn Fletcher

Em: Gardiner, Priddis, Morton

Coach: Worsfold

:thumbsu:

94_Eagles
18 Jun 2006, 13:40
Morton, Braun, Lynch, Stenglien are all good but not as good as those who I have replaced them with. I'd put J.Carr in the middle over kerr. Only thing stopping Mcpharlin is delivery, and lets face it with WCE midfield the guy would win the coleman (hell lynch looks half decent with the WCE Delivery)


Our delivery into the 50 is highly overrated.

jod23
19 Jun 2006, 07:19
I think a lot of people are overrating Freo players. Not many Freo players would crack a gig in our side. Pavlich, McPharlin, Johnson and Grover are 4 that would certainly come in. But ppl putting in Haselby, Bell, Black and Parker?? Cmon ....

Haselby isnt the player he once was and Bell is a soft midget who would bring nothing to the side. He would even give you nothing in a forward pocket. We have the best midfield in the country so Kerr, Cousins, Braun, Judd, Embley, Stinger pick themselves. Only J.Carr might come in for Freo and make the bench.

TheReason
19 Jun 2006, 14:27
Your first problem was Lynch in the team :o
here is my team

B: Wirrpanda Glass Parker
HB: Nicoski Hunter M. Carr
C: Stengline Cousins Black
HF: Embley Pavlich Polak
FF: Farmer McPharlin Kerr
FOLL: Cox Judd J. Carr
INT: Johnson Haselby Braun Bell

freo players in bold (incase you didnt notice)
????

Parker - highly over-rated, bad disposal, in the twilight of his career.

M.Carr - FFS, even the Freo people are calling for him to be dropped. His form has been steadily dropping off over the last 3 years.

Bell - Past it and slow. Was a champion.... WAS

McPaharlin - we would pick him based on reputation. I picked him. I've now changed my mind. Graham in McPharlin out. And Lynch gets the FF spot. At FF, Lynch has gone past McPharlin,

Black - Black or Rosa for mine.

Kerr / J.Carr - switch them around.

Farmer - Medhurst instead based on him rising to the ocassion under Woosh.

Haselby - we all know he's playing injured. His best footy was 3-4 years ago. He is, ATM, a former shadow of himself. A very average midfielder at best, ATM.



So reworked:

B: Wirrpanda Glass Hunter
HB: Nicoski Graham Grover
C: Stengline Cousins Black or Rosa
HF: Embley Pavlich Polak
FF: Medhurst Lynch J.Carr
FOLL: Cox Judd Kerr
INT: Johnson Chick Braun & Gardiner (yes based on reputation) or Sandilands


So that is 5-7 players from Freo, at best.

VoR
19 Jun 2006, 17:32
Turn it up. We'd only want Pav from that bunch of losers.

Eagle_boy
19 Jun 2006, 18:15
Turn it up. We'd only want Pav from that bunch of losers.

:thumbsu: guaranteed 6 goal a game from our midfielders :D

VoR
19 Jun 2006, 18:24
When's he out of contract? Must be sick of playing for those bozzos.

Cerpin Taxt
19 Jun 2006, 19:03
B: Chick, Glass, Johnson
HB: Nicoski, Polak, Grover
C: Embley, Bell, Kerr
HF: Hunter, Pavlich, Cousins
F: Farmer, McPharlin, Wirrpanda
R: Cox Judd J.Carr
Int: -----, -----, Stenglein, Mundy

This is my 22. My biggest hesitations were Bell and Polak. The issue with Bell was that there are a number of other players that (I believe) are at his level. He was selected on his standing. McPharlin or Lynch? I think we have the luxery to pick McPharlin, but if it were ont his season's form Lynch should take the spot. I just think that when the other 5 forwards are as dangerous as they are, picking McPharlin is the right choice in terms of loss v upside.

Polak probably hasn't done enough, but you probably pick him over Graham because Johnson should have the rebound aspect covered. Those key defensive positions are not at all concrete. I think it would be the same situation as Fremantle currently; picking the best matchup rather than specifying players directly to positions. The other option of Staker would allow Hunter to drop back into defence. This could potentially be the most dangerous, but Staker isn't doing a heck of a lot as the 3rd tall right now. That wouldn't change. Having Hunter forward creates a great balance where you can honestly state that all sections of the ground are elite.

I've left two free spots up for grabs. I think one should be an outside midfielder, the other the 2nd ruck.

Ruck nominations are: Longmuir, Sandilands, Seaby and Gardiner. Each have their merits, but I think I'd choose Sandilands because the (relative :P ) versatility of the others isn't really needed with the sum of KP players selected.

The outside running player could be any number. Fletcher, Braun, Selwood, Rosa, Headland, Peake, Black and a number of other Freo midfielders where the line is quite blurred as to their role from an outside perspective. I choose Braun.

So, Int: Sandilands, Braun, Stenglein, Mundy
Possible swap: Polak for Graham/Staker.
Final Count: West Coast: 12, Fremantle: 10

Ok, swap McPharlin for Lynch now. Lynch has done enough.

rgauci
19 Jun 2006, 19:27
J.Carr > Kerr this season. Easily. He was leading the herald sun award after round 8. 1 point ahead of Judd. Not anymore, but is still in the top 10.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,18696946%255E19742,00.html

Wirrpunda Glass Grover
Nicovski Johnson Hunter
Braun J.Carr Embley
Medhurst Pavlich Cousins
Farmer Lynch McPharlin
F: Cox Judd Kerr

INT: Stenglein Sandilands Mundy Headland

Could of replaced Headland with one of your outside runners. But i support the purple. Plus he's having a good year. Averaging 19 disposals, 6.6 inside 50's, 2 tackles, 6 marks, 1.2 goals and 2 clearances a game. Pretty handy HFF.

12 Eagles 10 Dockers.

woosh_era
19 Jun 2006, 19:33
B:Wirrpanda Glass Nicoski
HB: Selwood Hunter Stenglein
C:Braun Cousins Embley
HF: Graham Hansen Waters
F:Chick Lynch Staker
R:Cox Kerr Judd


Hahahahahaa.... i was sooo going to do that.


Although if we had to poach a wharfie, id go McPharlin...

In : McPharlin to FF, Lynch to CHF, out Hansen. Thanks Freo, swap you another Godden or Metropolis for him?

Eagle_boy
19 Jun 2006, 23:02
Am I missing something! what has McPharlin done this year? great potential but doesn't do enough for my liking.

For what it's worth

B Wirrpanda Glass Johnson
HB Nicoski Polak Stenglein
C Braun Judd Rosa
HF Embley Pavlich Chick
F Farmer Lynch Hunter
R Cox Cousins Kerr
I Graham Sandilands Black Bell

Thrawn666
20 Jun 2006, 01:04
J.Carr > Kerr this season.

Please refrain from mentioning either of the soft as butter Carr sisters in the same sentence as Daniel Kerr

rgauci
20 Jun 2006, 01:43
Please refrain from mentioning either of the soft as butter Carr sisters in the same sentence as Daniel Kerr

You can call Josh many things. But soft as butter is definately not one of them. In fact, didn't poor little danny spend the majority of the grand final off the ground being treated.

Josh got punched in the head by Johnathon Brown and still was one of the best on ground.


This year:

Josh >>>>>> Kerr

Last year:

Kerr >> Josh

I'm being objective. Try being the same.

jod23
20 Jun 2006, 05:38
Doesnt matter what year were talking about. Overall Special K has it all over Josh Carr.

Cant believe anybody is naming Bell at all. Soft as butter, shockingly slow and wouldnt get a game in a combined side. He would be behind Cuz, Judd, Braun, Fletcher, Embley, Stinger, Kerr, Selwood, J.Carr, Headland etc etc

Cerpin Taxt
20 Jun 2006, 07:15
You can call Josh many things. But soft as butter is definately not one of them. In fact, didn't poor little danny spend the majority of the grand final off the ground being treated.

Josh got punched in the head by Johnathon Brown and still was one of the best on ground.


This year:

Josh >>>>>> Kerr

Last year:

Kerr >> Josh

I'm being objective. Try being the same.

If you're implying that having more than one ">" has some sort of meaning, I would urge you to live up to your word of being objective. Kerr was runner-up Brownlow last year. Carr was... what did Carr do last year?

To imply that Josh Carr has been three times better than Kerr was over him last year is ludicrous. The butter-soft comment was just a troll to make you slip, obviously it worked because despite your claim of being objective, you're a bloody long way from the truth.

Watch some footy :thumbsu:

Thrawn666
20 Jun 2006, 09:10
You can call Josh many things. But soft as butter is definately not one of them.

She is soft.

Being a niggly little girl off the ball does not equate to toughness.

More Dockers players should look away from him as an example and use Troy Cook if theyre trying to manufacture some toughness into their squad.

rgauci
20 Jun 2006, 10:36
If you're implying that having more than one ">" has some sort of meaning, I would urge you to live up to your word of being objective. Kerr was runner-up Brownlow last year. Carr was... what did Carr do last year?

To imply that Josh Carr has been three times better than Kerr was over him last year is ludicrous. The butter-soft comment was just a troll to make you slip, obviously it worked because despite your claim of being objective, you're a bloody long way from the truth.

Watch some footy :thumbsu:

Fair point. He was very good last year. 8th in your B & F. Which is more of an indicator of performance than Brownlow. Forget the number of >>, also used to troll you, hook, line and sinker.

If you can't call Josh tough i'm not sure who you can. The guy puts his body on the line every game and tackles very well. He gets absolutely crunched, gets straight back up and keeps playing. Niggling off the ball is part of the game, Michael Voss is the king of niggling and no-one bats an eyelid.

At this point in the year, Josh is probably the second best midfielder behind Judd at the two teams. Maybe equal with Cousins, though he has missed a few games. So probably edges him.

You can't claim Fletcher or Kerr are having good years. Kerr has fired up lately but was average at the beginning of the year. Braun is completely consistent. Probably the guy you missed the most in the GF last year. But isn't at the level of JC's performance this year.

peterss
20 Jun 2006, 15:01
Micheal Johnson is a gun!