View Full Version : Is Worsfold worth a $1 million a year?
TheGeneral
30 Jun 2006, 21:45
The Pharmacist has re-signed until 2009 and according to reports he'll be earning $1 million a year for his efforts even though he has yet to coach a flag.
What would a premiership coach in Roos who knocked off the Eagles with arguably less talent and Craig demand if they became available? :confused:
Both are at least as good Woosha as a coach and one is more successfull. ;)
Cassius_Clay
30 Jun 2006, 22:25
No coach deserves 1mil a year, especially a coach who hasnt won a flag yet.
The Pharmacist has re-signed until 2009 and according to reports he'll be earning $1 million a year for his efforts even though he has yet to coach a flag.
What would a premiership coach in Roos who knocked off the Eagles with arguably less talent and Craig demand if they became available? :confused:
Both are at least as good Woosha as a coach and one is more successfull. ;)
he took over a team that was 14th and odds on for a spoon and taken them to within a kick of a premiership in just 3 years.
if you do that at a rich club, a million dollar contract is what you get.
jonesy86
30 Jun 2006, 22:49
i still think west coast are a 1 man team....over the last 2 years without judd they lost to the pies last year and this year should have lost to blues and cats and lost to the power
TheGeneral
1 Jul 2006, 01:23
he took over a team that was 14th and odds on for a spoon and taken them to within a kick of a premiership in just 3 years.
if you do that at a rich club, a million dollar contract is what you get.
Is that how much they're paying Matthews and Roos?
Will Craig sign for that sum on his next contract?
He wouldn't get within a bull's roar of a million p.a. if they didn't have Judd there for possibly the next 10 years.
I never thought I'd see a contract that would make Pagan's look average. :D
Is that how much they're paying Matthews and Roos?
Will Craig sign for that sum on his next contract?
He wouldn't get within a bull's roar of a million p.a. if they didn't have Judd there for possibly the next 10 years.
I never thought I'd see a contract that would make Pagan's look average. :D
you wont. your paying pagan a fortune to ruin your list and bring in spoons
while woosha has a top 4 finish to worry about again this year.
The Pharmacist has re-signed until 2009 and according to reports he'll be earning $1 million a year for his efforts even though he has yet to coach a flag.
What would a premiership coach in Roos who knocked off the Eagles with arguably less talent and Craig demand if they became available? :confused:
Both are at least as good Woosha as a coach and one is more successfull. ;)
Frome The Age:
The basic three-year deal is reportedly worth between $1.7 million and $2 million, but it could rise as high as $3 million due to performance-based incentives.
The base package is $567k to $667k per annum and it "could go" to $1 million based on incentives which will include the requirements to win premierships.
On that basis your entire premise (i.e. no premiership and $1 million per annum) is baseless ....
.... nothing quite like BF for complete tossers simply making **** up and trying to turn it into a story ....
Excellent work :rolleyes:
so i guess this poll should actually read "is worsfold worth a million PA if he wins the premiership every year?"
id say, "yes he is"
TheGeneral
1 Jul 2006, 13:50
Frome The Age:
The basic three-year deal is reportedly worth between $1.7 million and $2 million, but it could rise as high as $3 million due to performance-based incentives.
The base package is $567k to $667k per annum and it "could go" to $1 million based on incentives which will include the requirements to win premierships.
On that basis your entire premise (i.e. no premiership and $1 million per annum) is baseless ....
.... nothing quite like BF for complete tossers simply making **** up and trying to turn it into a story ....
Excellent work :rolleyes:
That's how it was reported since Worsfold will earn a million a year if they win the flag.
You are a touch sensitive on his issue and like most Eagles fans a touch sensitive towards Bluesfans. :rolleyes:
No coach or player is worth a million a year. ;)
TheGeneral
1 Jul 2006, 13:55
you wont. your paying pagan a fortune to ruin your list and bring in spoons.
Ruining the list is he? :rolleyes:
We handled the issues of Norman and Angwin better than the way you lived in denial with Cousins and Gardiner. :cool:
How did that end? :)
No coach deserves 1mil a year, especially a coach who hasnt won a flag yet.
Yep, summed up pretty well especially the bit about not winning a premiership, even then to earn $650k or whatever it is, is still baffling.
That's how it was reported since Worsfold will earn a million a year if they win the flag.
You are a touch sensitive on his issue and like most Eagles fans a touch sensitive towards Bluesfans. :rolleyes:
No coach or player is worth a million a year. ;)
Your argument was based on the premise that Woosha wasn't worth as much as some other coaches because he hadnt yet won a premiership (See your first sentence of your first post which started this thread). His $1million in potential earnings will not occur unless he wins at least one (and likely more) ...
In other words you made a factually incorrect assertion as the basis for an argument. In simpler terms, you are an idiot or a troll ..
I was not being sensitive but rather correcting your rather moronic error.
On your second point, Why in the hell would we be remotely sensitive about Bluesfans? You support a has been, basket case club ... if allowed by the AFL we could buy your club with the contents of our petty cash drawer ...:)
As for "No coach or player is worth a million.." - this is simply the age old argument of the less fortunate and the jealous.
If someone is prepared to pay that amount, then they (the payer) believe you are worth it. If the same payer happens to be the most financially sound and profitable AFL team in the country then perhaps they would be better placed to make judgements of value than you ...perhaps :rolleyes:
Of course a stupid argument about how footballers shouldnt earn more than those with "real" jobs or those performing really community service will likely ensue .... its pointless ... the world aint fair etc etc ..
Cerpin Taxt
1 Jul 2006, 20:30
This one seems to have perturbed Carlton fans. What a shock! :eek:
You guys can speak for yourselves, because we're miles ahead of you both on and off the field. If we win a flag, I would have no problem with Worsfold earning $1m. No clause for wooden spoons though :thumbsu:
TheGeneral
1 Jul 2006, 21:24
Your argument was based on the premise that Woosha wasn't worth as much as some other coaches because he hadnt yet won a premiership (See your first sentence of your first post which started this thread). His $1million in potential earnings will not occur unless he wins at least one (and likely more) ...
In other words you made a factually incorrect assertion as the basis for an argument. In simpler terms, you are an idiot or a troll ..
I made an assertion on what the media reported and Worsfold will earn a million dollars if they win the flag this season.
No coach is worth that sum and I doubt Matthews earnt that much p.a. even when they won three flags back to back.
I was not being sensitive but rather correcting your rather moronic error.
You are sensitive because it's a fact he will earn a million if they win the flag and he isn't worth it.
On your second point, Why in the hell would we be remotely sensitive about Bluesfans? You support a has been, basket case club ... if allowed by the AFL we could buy your club with the contents of our petty cash drawer ...:)
Your club was equally bad five years ago when you landed Judd and Sampi so you shouldn't bag more successfull clubs.
As for "No coach or player is worth a million.." - this is simply the age old argument of the less fortunate and the jealous.
You're the idiot because that comment was about Koutoufides and like a lot of SA and WA posters you don't know anything about the VFL.
If someone is prepared to pay that amount, then they (the payer) believe you are worth it. If the same payer happens to be the most financially sound and profitable AFL team in the country then perhaps they would be better placed to make judgements of value than you ...perhaps :rolleye
I'm entitled to state my opinion and who are you to point the finger at someone else's judgement?
Too sensitive.
Of course a stupid argument about how footballers shouldnt earn more than those with "real" jobs or those performing really community service will likely ensue .... its pointless ... the world aint fair etc etc ..
Where did that comment from? :rolleyes:
It has nothing to do with what other members of society earn, but my opinion that no player should take home such a large chunk of the cap and no coach is worth a $1 million a year.
TheGeneral
1 Jul 2006, 21:29
This one seems to have perturbed Carlton fans. What a shock! :eek:
You guys can speak for yourselves, because we're miles ahead of you both on and off the field. If we win a flag, I would have no problem with Worsfold earning $1m. No clause for wooden spoons though :thumbsu:
Just vote and stay on topic without turning it into a stupid war between two clubs.
I think I hit the mark.
I dont think so, is any coach really worth that much? :confused:
MrSquashed
1 Jul 2006, 23:39
he took over a team that was 14th and odds on for a spoon and taken them to within a kick of a premiership in just 3 years.
if you do that at a rich club, a million dollar contract is what you get.
Roos did exactly the same, but i doubt he is on half of what Woosha is on :thumbsd:
We will see, by 2009, WCE will be the onl dominant team that don't have a flag, and at that stage, I doubt his contract will continue to be 1mil :thumbsu:
sydney eagle
1 Jul 2006, 23:48
Worsfold, like every other coach, is worth as much as his prospective employers (football clubs) are prepared to pay him. I like the idea of an incentive based contract. "If you win us the premiership you get a fat bonus" sounds like a good idea to me.
Football is in the dan of a new era where the importance of the coach has been accentuated by developments in the rules, player skill levels, and different technology. I think Worsfold is worth that cash, but Judd certainly helps it.
windyhill
2 Jul 2006, 20:50
he took over a team that was 14th and odds on for a spoon and taken them to within a kick of a premiership in just 3 years.
if you do that at a rich club, a million dollar contract is what you get.
Just wait until the inevitable slide comes and the sack Woosha threads start up.
I dont think so, is any coach really worth that much? :confused:
Then why did you vote 'yes'?? :eek: :rolleyes:
We will see, by 2009, WCE will be the onl dominant team that don't have a flag, and at that stage, I doubt his contract will continue to be 1mil :thumbsu:
Correct, if we don't win a flag he will not get 1mill :thumbsu:
Well done.
he took over a team that was 14th and odds on for a spoon and taken them to within a kick of a premiership in just 3 years.
if you do that at a rich club, a million dollar contract is what you get.
That's 4 years btw, 2002,03,04,05
Anyway Mick Malthouse took a team that actually won the wooden spoon in 1999 to within a kick and a half in 3 years. Does he deserve a million dollar contract?
Paul Roos took almost unbackable wooden spoon favourites in Sydney at the start of 2003 to an actual premiership within 3 years - does he also deserve a million dollar contract?
almost unbackable wooden spoon favourites
They finished 11th in 2002. And Carlton were wooden spoon favourites.
bunsen burner
2 Jul 2006, 22:57
The simple answer is yes.
He'll only get $1m a year if he wins a flag (go check his contract terms). Most clubs would pay a coach a million a year over 3 years to get a flag.
And of course if he doesn't deliver a flag? Then he's not worth $1m a year and they won't be paying him $1m a year.
They finished 11th in 2002. And Carlton were wooden spoon favourites.
I know where they finished, but I also remember they were wooden spoon favourites partly because Carlton were hyped more than Swans because all their (Carlton's) injury ravaged 'stars' were coming back after missing 2002, had a new coach, board etc etc.
Sydney on the other hand were tipped for the wooden spoon by 'experts' more so than Carlton. I remember before the prelim final against Brisbane the Channel 10 promo had all those 'experts' names and the list was quite long!
Coin_Toss
3 Jul 2006, 22:03
No coach is worth $1 mil a year IMO. It's an outrageous price to pay!
geelong_falcons22
6 Jul 2006, 01:48
eagles can afford it, and the coach doesn't come inside the salary cap
if he lifts the cup at the end of the season, of course he will be worth $1mil in 2 years time when they renegotiate his recently signed contract