View Full Version : Mythbusters - Essendon's Injuries
DynamoUltra
1 Jul 2006, 01:12
Dustin Fletcher (groin) test
Jason Laycock (knee) 6-8 weeks
Dean Rioli (knee) 7 weeks
Jason Winderlich (fractured fibula) 7 weeks
Lachlan McKinnon (shoulder reconstruction) season
Aaron Henneman (shoulder reconstruction) season
Matthew Lloyd (hamstring) season
Considering Fletcher played tonight, it is fathomable that Lloyd is the only one of that group who would instantly command a place in Essendon's starting 22. To put losing down to injuries is, once again, diverting the blame off the players and coach.
Dustin Fletcher (groin) test
Jason Laycock (knee) 6-8 weeks
Dean Rioli (knee) 7 weeks
Jason Winderlich (fractured fibula) 7 weeks
Lachlan McKinnon (shoulder reconstruction) season
Aaron Henneman (shoulder reconstruction) season
Matthew Lloyd (hamstring) season
Considering Fletcher played tonight, it is fathomable that Lloyd is the only one of that group who would instantly command a place in Essendon's starting 22. To put losing down to injuries is, once again, diverting the blame off the players and coach.
Hello idiot, who is blaming injuries for tonight's loss? :rolleyes:
Still hurting being our bitches for so long, you could only beat us by one point without Lloyd, better tell Jeffery to put his jacket in mothballs. :p
Nightwolf
1 Jul 2006, 01:20
Hello idiot, who is blaming injuries for tonight's loss? :rolleyes:
Still hurting being our bitchesfpr so long, you could only beat us by one point without Lloyd, better tell Jeffery to put his jacket in mothballs. :p
Talk to us when you win a game..
Talk to us when you win a game..
See them next year...maybe:thumbsu:
To put losing down to injuries is, once again, diverting the blame off the players and coach.
Who is claiming this? Or is this just a troll?
cussernaut
1 Jul 2006, 01:23
Hello idiot, who is blaming injuries for tonight's loss? :rolleyes:
Still hurting being our bitches for so long, you could only beat us by one point without Lloyd, better tell Jeffery to put his jacket in mothballs. :p
2006 = 1 + 21
2006 = 1 + 21
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DynamoUltra
1 Jul 2006, 01:33
look at the facts, if LLoyd didnt get injured this year then we will still be gunning for a top 8 finish.
One example that took me 2 seconds to find.
One example that took me 2 seconds to find.
How about posting the quote properly, no date it was posted, or who it was posted by, try again.
cussernaut
1 Jul 2006, 01:56
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hahaha....yes!!
check it out mantis, mate reading your posts are a moronathon
hahaha....yes!!
check it out mantis, mate reading your posts are a moronathon
I'm sorry you're still hurting being our bitches for so long. :p
Dustin Fletcher (groin) test
Jason Laycock (knee) 6-8 weeks
Dean Rioli (knee) 7 weeks
Jason Winderlich (fractured fibula) 7 weeks
Lachlan McKinnon (shoulder reconstruction) season
Aaron Henneman (shoulder reconstruction) season
Matthew Lloyd (hamstring) season
Considering Fletcher played tonight, it is fathomable that Lloyd is the only one of that group who would instantly command a place in Essendon's starting 22. To put losing down to injuries is, once again, diverting the blame off the players and coach.
Adam Ramanauskas: indefinate
Andrew Lovett: when his head is deflated
Richie Cole: just back from constant hammy
Nevertheless, the point is we lost. We dont need to pull out the Collingwood 'injuries cost us' line each and every week.
Its not half obvious that we're lacking confidence.
Smokin_Joe
1 Jul 2006, 02:20
Exactly who said we are using injuries as an excuse? We are just not good enough this year. Sad dawks....
Nightwolf
1 Jul 2006, 11:12
I'm sorry you're still hurting being our bitches for so long. :p
Clearly not. We've beat you twice in a row, and we'll be counting. Dont worry bout that..
Dustin Fletcher (groin) test
Jason Laycock (knee) 6-8 weeks
Dean Rioli (knee) 7 weeks
Jason Winderlich (fractured fibula) 7 weeks
Lachlan McKinnon (shoulder reconstruction) season
Aaron Henneman (shoulder reconstruction) season
Matthew Lloyd (hamstring) season
Considering Fletcher played tonight, it is fathomable that Lloyd is the only one of that group who would instantly command a place in Essendon's starting 22. To put losing down to injuries is, once again, diverting the blame off the players and coach.
your a loser of A Greade Quality. Winderlich & Laycock would walk into Essendon's 22 with Winderlich on the bench and Laycock at CHB. With McPhee playing on the Ball or loose man in defence just to build his confidence up once more
Dustin Fletcher (groin) test
Jason Laycock (knee) 6-8 weeks
Dean Rioli (knee) 7 weeks
Jason Winderlich (fractured fibula) 7 weeks
Lachlan McKinnon (shoulder reconstruction) season
Aaron Henneman (shoulder reconstruction) season
Matthew Lloyd (hamstring) season
Considering Fletcher played tonight, it is fathomable that Lloyd is the only one of that group who would instantly command a place in Essendon's starting 22. To put losing down to injuries is, once again, diverting the blame off the players and coach.
what's Hawthorns excuse ? and dont say injuries cos you lot beat Richmond in TASSIE without half your 1st team :D
Nightwolf
1 Jul 2006, 11:36
what's Hawthorns excuse ? and dont say injuries cos you lot beat Richmond in TASSIE without half your 1st team :D
We dont need an excuse. We're one win outside the 8 :confused:
Does that make it 12 loses in a row?
Sweet :thumbsu:
Ha ha ha Laycock and Wundelich, yeah they are the difference.
Face facts Dons fans Sheedy has run your list into the ground with his top up recruiting. Campo, what karma that is.
If you believe in karma why do you keep paying out teams?
Cos it does not matter to Pie fans, we know something will go wrong so why no just enjoy other teams pain as much as they enjoy mine.
Herbs hawks
1 Jul 2006, 12:02
[quote=Aaron] Winderlich & Laycock would walk into Essendon's 22 with Winderlich on the bench and Laycock at CHB.
HaHaHaha Walk into a team to start on the bench :D
All Aaron's posts on bigfooty = :o :o :o i haven't seen i decent one yet.
Dustin Fletcher (groin) test
Jason Laycock (knee) 6-8 weeks
Dean Rioli (knee) 7 weeks
Jason Winderlich (fractured fibula) 7 weeks
Lachlan McKinnon (shoulder reconstruction) season
Aaron Henneman (shoulder reconstruction) season
Matthew Lloyd (hamstring) season
Considering Fletcher played tonight, it is fathomable that Lloyd is the only one of that group who would instantly command a place in Essendon's starting 22. To put losing down to injuries is, once again, diverting the blame off the players and coach.
Plausible.
Face facts Dons fans Sheedy has run your list into the ground with his top up recruiting. Campo, what karma that is.
Karma for you will happen where it always does ...
Lived to see 4 premierships d*ckhead.
Karma for you will happen where it always does ...
Lived to see 4 premierships d*ckhead.
bet you haven't seen a season like this though have ya! suck it in loser!
Ha ha top don about to see your first spoon too. Enjoy it, although I dare say you will be like your mates and drop off faster than a leppa's shlong.
KING-JAMES
1 Jul 2006, 13:44
I'am not using injuries as an excuse, it has been the seniour players all year letting our kids down. Every week it happens, watson, Monfries an Co stand up while Soloman, Johnsons let them down. When you say injury list isnt bad it does effect the side alot when its your captain, an the whole forwardline structure relies on him being there. Its not a problem getting the ball down there its getting target to kick goals.
Lovett is a bad mental state it seems an when fully fine is a very important member to the side. Winders was showing alot before he went down and Laycock once he gets a pre season will have a big impact. He has so much talent an potential just needs to get fit. Rioli is rioli gets bagged a heap but when on song is a game winner with his creative passing.
Injuries is no excuse though, its a lack of confidence within the side hopefully next year this confidence is restored cos our season is over an im just looking forward to draft day lol.
I'am not using injuries as an excuse, it has been the seniour players all year letting our kids down. Every week it happens, watson, Monfries an Co stand up while Soloman, Johnsons let them down. When you say injury list isnt bad it does effect the side alot when its your captain an the whole forwardlines structure relies on him being there. Its not a problem getting the ball down there its getting target kicking goals. lol.
thought you weren't using em as an excuse?
thought you weren't using em as an excuse?
Essendon are missing important players from the side just like Collingwood were last year... seems to me a lot of Pie supporters have forgetten how bad their team was last year. Essendon are missing players that would improve the team dramatically no one can doubt that.
Injuries are the reason Essendon is performing badly, but so is confidence, and leadership.
H Dolphin
1 Jul 2006, 15:26
Injuries are the reason Essendon is performing badly...
That doesn't explain 12 losses in a row. Every team has injuries.
KING-JAMES
1 Jul 2006, 15:46
Our Seniour Players skills by foot are terrible aswell. Jason Johnson, Soloman, Mark Johnson even McPhee last night could hit a player on the chest 30 metres away. Shows what confidence does last year Mark Johnson was a star, the game has not passed him he is just low on confidence.
Its not only confidence at Essendon, its depth.
Whilst injuries are no excuse, the players that come in to replace them can be called into question: players like Reynolds and Cartledge arent up to it, whilst some of the kids are very raw and not AFL ready.
Why should Essendon have to explain this? All clubs go through a rough patch - so lap it up whilst we are down, because the circle will turn sooner or later.
That doesn't explain 12 losses in a row. Every team has injuries.
You're right it's no excuse, however, a lack of confidence and leadership combined are.
Essendon need to draft a few good players this year, get its senior players through a full pre-season and hopefully luck will be on our side also!
H Dolphin
1 Jul 2006, 18:39
You're right it's no excuse, however, a lack of confidence and leadership combined are.
Where does the lack of confidence and leadership come from ? Lloyd is really the only leader missing ? I didn't expect Essendon to improve this year i.e. I expected it to win 6 - 8 games, I suppose it still might. What I don't understand is why it is just so bad. Injuries, even lack of confidence don't explain the dramatic drop.
Where does the lack of confidence and leadership come from ? Lloyd is really the only leader missing ? I didn't expect Essendon to improve this year i.e. I expected it to win 6 - 8 games, I suppose it still might. What I don't understand is why it is just so bad. Injuries, even lack of confidence don't explain the dramatic drop.
It doesn't?? What would then?
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Players like Jason and Mark Johnson and also Dean Solomon can't set an example to the younger guys like they used to because of their drop in form due to the injuries they are all carrying, JJ with his foot which has really troubled him all year and cost him a preseason, MJ with his shoulder and Solly with his knee which has to be drained of fluid every week. It's hurting Essendon pretty badly, these players should be rested but the club can't afford to because no one is ready to replace them. Hence why we need to draft a few good players this year.
It doesn't?? What would then?
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Players like Jason and Mark Johnson and also Dean Solomon can't set an example to the younger guys like they used to because of their drop in form due to the injuries they are all carrying, JJ with his foot which has really troubled him all year and cost him a preseason, MJ with his shoulder and Solly with his knee which has to be drained of fluid every week. It's hurting Essendon pretty badly, these players should be rested but the club can't afford to because no one is ready to replace them. Hence why we need to draft a few good players this year.
all the excuses in the world won't write of a dozen on the trot - sorry -that is just slop and shows what essendon has descended to
H Dolphin
1 Jul 2006, 19:20
It doesn't?? What would then?
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Internal upheaval, poor coaching, tanking, players just not good enough would.
Maybe you are right, that injuries are the reason but I doubt it because the key playmakers at most clubs carry injuries that restrict them. Riewoldt, Ball, Gherig and Harvey at St Kilda; Grant, Johnson, Murphy (before the knee) at Footscray. Look at Brisbane with its injuries. It’s called up a list of no names in place of its injured without disastrous results.
Internal upheaval, poor coaching, tanking, players just not good enough would.
Maybe you are right, that injuries are the reason but I doubt it because the key playmakers at most clubs carry injuries that restrict them. Riewoldt, Ball, Gherig and Harvey at St Kilda; Grant, Johnson, Murphy (before the knee) at Footscray. Look at Brisbane with its injuries. It’s called up a list of no names in place of its injured without disastrous results.
Maybe Essendon ARE tanking, who knows? They've had plenty of chances to win games and had they taken those chances they would've won 4 or 5 more games by this point. As far as poor coaching goes, Sheedy has made some absurd moves this year eg. Reynolds and Johns in the FB position, putting Bradley on the best CHFs in the comp. It is understandable though because the club is in no position to make the finals, why not try a few different things and see what his players can do.
Also, Essendon have had 3 disastrous results out of 13 games. Not bad considering they've only won one and sit at the bottom. But at the end of the day the aim of the game is to win. Clearly changes need to be made at the club and it's the Essendon supporters that are hoping the club makes the right decisions so it can move forward from 07 and beyond. Essendon has never been in this position so it will be a massive test for the club. I'll support them no matter what.
The awful truth
2 Jul 2006, 00:59
Hey **** you, alright most can't admit that we are a disgusting rabble but I can. I mean, it shouldn't be that hard after the twelth loss in a row. :rolleyes:
Actually, come to think of it, good post, Essendon were at near full strength last night and lost, clearly showing that not only are we ordinary this year, but for many many years to come. :thumbsd:
The awful truth
2 Jul 2006, 01:00
Can you believe Caroline Wilson tipped Essendon to be top four. Why does she like us so much? Why did she curse us. And she is ugly too!
The awful truth
2 Jul 2006, 01:01
Its not only confidence at Essendon, its depth.
Whilst injuries are no excuse, the players that come in to replace them can be called into question: players like Reynolds and Cartledge arent up to it, whilst some of the kids are very raw and not AFL ready.
Why should Essendon have to explain this? All clubs go through a rough patch - so lap it up whilst we are down, because the circle will turn sooner or later.
The reason why we have to explain it is simple, its unaacceptable being the worst team of the last ten years. Thats quite simple really.
mcphee_is_a_gun
2 Jul 2006, 01:05
* please note the awful truth is an Essendon troll not supporter.
* plase note the awful truth is an Essendon troll not supporter.
He's been missing for awhile, must have been locked up, shame they let him out. ;)
mcphee_is_a_gun
2 Jul 2006, 01:14
He's been missing for awhile, must have been locked up, shame they let him out. ;)
tell me about it :thumbsd: