View Full Version : Roo's Suspension - 1 week
Though a warning the source is bee dee (main forum) :eek:
Stiffy_18
7 Aug 2006, 17:24
If they have another angle of the incident he could be in a bit of strife, depending on what the footage shows but from the angle that was showed on the big screen, its inconclusive at best.
I am more concerned about Johncock unless of course there is a different camera angle of the Roo incident.
What a load of crap.
If it was the case, we'd know about all the other incidents too.
Wait until the MRP sends out its official release.
Thank god we got over the line on the weekend and have almost secured a top 2 spot, looks like we are going to have a lot of outs.
knackers27
7 Aug 2006, 17:27
If true, could be a blessing in disguise.
Roo missed him I thought.....:confused:
NikkiNoo
7 Aug 2006, 17:32
Roo missed him I thought.....:confused:
If he missed him, then they would obviously judge it to be medium to high impact, if you actually connect then it seems this year you can get downgraded :rolleyes:
Although it would suck, it may just be for the best. IMO Roo looks injured and a week off could do him the world of good.
The way they did it was like this:
"Roo, we're giving you a 1 week holiday...here's two tickets to the Bahamas for after the season. and a credit for the next time you really belt someone"
nah he didnt miss him, i'd say that decision is pretty fair, they've been protecting players with their head down low. roos prior record (knocking out selwood) wouldnta helped either.
Capitalist
7 Aug 2006, 17:43
nah he didnt miss him, i'd say that decision is pretty fair, they've been protecting players with their head down low. roos prior record (knocking out selwood) wouldnta helped either.
pff - Selwood is soft as butter thats all :thumbsd:
AdelUniCrowFan
7 Aug 2006, 17:47
nah he didnt miss him, i'd say that decision is pretty fair, they've been protecting players with their head down low. roos prior record (knocking out selwood) wouldnta helped either.
Selwood was a 1 match ban wasn't it.
There is no extra loading for 1 match bans, only 2 or higher.
All it means is that he couldn't get the 25% discount for good behaviour.
Selwood was a 1 match ban wasn't it.
There is no extra loading for 1 match bans, only 2 or higher.
All it means is that he couldn't get the 25% discount for good behaviour.
Technically it was 3 games, but a good record and early guilty plea brought it down to one.
It looked to me like Roo got him. There was nothing in Johncock's 'punch', but it was still there and still could be a worry.
Goody seems to be getting more and more frustrated by the tags. He's been acting a bit on the thuggish side the last few weeks. The raised elbow could also be a problem. Wouldn't like to be without all three against Freo. Talk about testing our depth!
birdmanptr
7 Aug 2006, 18:05
Though a warning the source is bee dee (main forum) :eek:
A weeks rest wont hurt in the long run it will do him the world of good.
Drummond
7 Aug 2006, 18:06
Goody seems to be getting more and more frustrated by the tags. He's been acting a bit on the thuggish side the last few weeks. The raised elbow could also be a problem. Wouldn't like to be without all three against Freo. Talk about testing our depth!
http://www.quiznos.com/images/baby_bob_home.jpg
One of the hits of the season, just a beauty!
Level 2 striking, one week with an early guilty plea :(
knackers27
7 Aug 2006, 18:17
Dude!!! Link or Source.
Dumb and dumber have just announced it on AA. So it's still a dodgy source. ;)
Stiffy not even cited.
Roo needs a rest anyway.
Out: Roo
In: Welshy
RogerRabbit69
7 Aug 2006, 18:20
Stiffy not even cited.
Rucci's probably on the phone to the Match Review Panel as we speak.
What about Hart and Burton?
Bock, ......... torney?
Rucci's probably on the phone to the Match Review Panel as we speak.
:D :D
knackers27
7 Aug 2006, 18:22
Out:
Burton, Hart, Ricciuto
In:
Welsh, Torney, Bock
Drummond
7 Aug 2006, 18:23
What about Hart and Burton?
Bock, .........
This is what I think they'll do:
In: Skipworth, Torney, Welsh
Out: Burton, Hart, Ricciuto
Welsh replacing Roo in the sqaure, and Torney is the obvious replacement for Hart. Although I wouldn't bring Skippy back, due the fact he was an emergency on the weekend and had 40 possessions, I think he'll be back. :( I would prefer Douglas or Pfeiffer though.
AndrewJo
7 Aug 2006, 18:24
What a load of crap.
If it was the case, we'd know about all the other incidents too.
Wait until the MRP sends out its official release.
Amazing what you read here..MRP has cited Roo...not Johncock. Cross the fingers.
AndrewJo
7 Aug 2006, 18:26
Rucci's probably on the phone to the Match Review Panel as we speak.
Tried to ring Rucci but his phone was engaged.:D
knackers27
7 Aug 2006, 18:26
Could it be time for Dougie?!
Stiffy_18
7 Aug 2006, 18:27
Surely there is another camera angle of the incident.
Stiffy_18
7 Aug 2006, 18:28
Could it be time for Dougie?!
Not after his showing on the weekend. IMHO Skippy is the most likely to come in.
This is what I think they'll do:
In: Skipworth, Torney, Welsh
Out: Burton, Hart, Ricciuto
.
this will be the way they go
Von Douche
7 Aug 2006, 18:32
Blessing in disguise.
Accept AFC.
Welsh's inclusion will take some pressure off Kenny and Trent. A welcome return IMO.
Blue Red and Gold
7 Aug 2006, 18:36
weak as ****.
Scott Van Persett
7 Aug 2006, 19:34
Footage on Channel 10 news tonight was inconclusive. Actually looked like there was no contact but Clement acted as if there was, same as a lot of Collingwood players. I thought Mick Malthouse didn't like his players acting.
Anyway, would be a good chance to see how Welsh goes against Freo as Roo looks very tired at the moment
fryingpan
7 Aug 2006, 19:36
2 weeks what a load of ****in **** :mad:
RogerRabbit69
7 Aug 2006, 19:40
Down to 1 if he accepts it. I don't think it's the end of the world. Much rather he misses a game now rather than in the finals.
Glenno23
7 Aug 2006, 19:40
Guys,
I was just talking to my mum, and she said that the news in SA reported he has been offered one week.
With a healthy lead over 3rd place (3 games and %) we would have to lose all our games and Melbourne win all of theirs for us to be knocked out of the top 2.
This, as other people have stated, is a blessing in disguise. It was always going to be a tough match against Freo, they are playing confident footy at the moment and are hoping to break their club record for consecutive wins. If we drop this game, so be it (although i would rather not)
It gives Roo a week off, and Welsh can come back in and give him a few weeks before finals. Hopefully all Roo needs is the one week rest.
Any reports on Hart's hammy?
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=287276
Ricciuto was charged with a level two striking offence with the incident being assessed as negligent conduct (one point), medium contact (two points), in play (no points) and high contact (two points) - equating to 125 points and a one-match ban.
However because of the left over points arising from Riccuito's striking suspension in round 22 last season - which resulted in him missing the qualifying final loss to St Kilda - that tally rose to 207.81 points or a two-match ban, which he will risk if he decides to challenge the case.
But if Ricciuto accepts the match review panel's decision, as he did in round 22 last year for his clash with West Coast's Adam Selwood, his penalty would fall to just 155.86 points and a one-match suspension.
Dandy_GO
7 Aug 2006, 20:06
It's getting beyond a joke now. The tribunal is pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
What a load of crap.
If it was the case, we'd know about all the other incidents too.
Wait until the MRP sends out its official release.
What time will you be wiping the crap out of your eyes dropkick? How does it feel
What time will you be wiping the crap out of your eyes dropkick? How does it feel
wow. so you saw it on the news before him.
what a hero :rolleyes:
RogerRabbit69
7 Aug 2006, 23:03
Actually, I think he listens to SEN.
Actually, I think he listens to SEN.
well, an even bigger scoop then ;)
Yeah, it's a serious question.
Honestly, I think we are. A week off to freshen up will do him the world of good. Resting him would have been a tough decision to make - convincing roo to take the weeks rest would have been even tougher.
Suspending him could be doing us a big favour.
Kickin_Goals
8 Aug 2006, 06:40
If he wasn't Ricciuto the champion competitor, the way he has been looking out there you would think he would have every chance of being rested.
Buckley gets rested, Roo doesn't look right out there yet he still plays.
We aren't Collingwood he isn't Buckley sure but it does seem like something that might be worthwhile.
Might be helpful having a view of the game from the sidelines to sort some things out though they do review performances.
can someone tell me in which quarter this 'striking' incident occured, i'm overseas and want to check it out on the replay.
thanks
Have to confess that when I saw the incident during the game I thought, "Whoops, there's a week or two". There is no doubt in my mind that Roo collected him and that it was reckless. I'm just happy that Goodwin and Johncock didn't also get cited.
RogerRabbit69
8 Aug 2006, 09:26
well, an even bigger scoop then ;)
Yeah, it seems standard procedure for Bee Dee. He hears them drop a rumour on radio then posts a thread on BF as though he's broken some big news story. A touch sad, really.
I havent seen a replay since the replays after the actual incident but 1 week seems about right for that. Clement had his head down and Roo clocked him in the head. Unless there was other footage, I cant see how this is unfair?
RogerRabbit69
8 Aug 2006, 09:31
I don't think it was unfair. It did look like Roo got Clement in the head with the tip of his elbow. It wasn't heavy contact, but it did look like he got him. No complaints from me.
It was it only 2 weeks ago he kicked 5 goals and was voted 2nd BOG for the team in his 300th - but now he's hopelessly out of form or something?
Crazy.
With Roo out there, the team walks taller. He will be missed.
It was it only 2 weeks ago he kicked 5 goals and was voted 2nd BOG for the team in his 300th - but now he's hopelessly out of form or something?
Crazy.
With Roo out there, the team walks taller. He will be missed.
Absolutely he will be missed, but it better for him if he missed a game now and freshes up then keeps going for the next 4 weeks and jags his groin (or does his hernia again) or hamstring and has to miss the finals.
It’s never good to walk out onto the ground with out your skipper but this could be a blessing in disguise.
RogerRabbit69
8 Aug 2006, 10:40
Never better off without an inspirational figure like Ricciuto.
It was it only 2 weeks ago he kicked 5 goals and was voted 2nd BOG for the team in his 300th - but now he's hopelessly out of form or something?
Crazy.
With Roo out there, the team walks taller. He will be missed.
Agreed
but a week off might be just what he needs to freshen himself up for the final push. :thumbsu:
arrowman
8 Aug 2006, 11:41
Definitely we're not better off without him in any given game, but worse things could happen than Roo get an enforced rest and we have an opportunity to give someone else a game.
If we're missing Roo, Burton and Hart (at least) it gives a chance to get some gametime into Bock, Welsh, Torney, Knights, Perrie.... Worse things could happen.
Stiffy_18
8 Aug 2006, 11:41
It was it only 2 weeks ago he kicked 5 goals and was voted 2nd BOG for the team in his 300th - but now he's hopelessly out of form or something?
Crazy.
With Roo out there, the team walks taller. He will be missed.
Nail. Hammer. Head :thumbsu:
Roo is struggling physically at the moment and while you always want your leader out there - it might be a blessing in disguise
Fred Phillis
8 Aug 2006, 12:15
Ricciuto has accepted one match ban...
Fred Phillis
8 Aug 2006, 12:19
Football Operations general manager John Reid said the Crows were
disappointed to lose their captain for the round 19 clash.
“The club looked at it closely,” he said. “There was an argument Mark was
unlucky but we thought the risk of losing and copping two games was not worth
it.”
I was worried about this from the moment I saw it. I know its soft, you know its soft, hell everyone who plays football knows its soft.But the MRP are guided by a system and the Tribunal is too worried about pensions to go agaisnt the flow
I too would like to see another angle as I feel it was more hip than ''tucked in'' elbow. The damage is more because Clement was squashed between the 2 players.
Rest him up, bring Scott Welsh back into the side and regain some element of surprise.
After 19 rounds of AFL football most side know each other game plan, we can now change the rules of the game by bringing Scott Welsh and Nathan Bock or Ian Perrie back into to side and introducing a new forward line philosophy.
Fremantle would have studied the forward line set up over the last month and had some what of an understanding where they lead and who does what, I wonder if they would have paid all that much attention to Welsh.
I was worried about this from the moment I saw it. I know its soft, you know its soft, hell everyone who plays football knows its soft.But the MRP are guided by a system and the Tribunal is too worried about pensions to go agaisnt the flow
I too would like to see another angle as I feel it was more hip than ''tucked in'' elbow. The damage is more because Clement was squashed between the 2 players.
Steven Baker didn’t even hit Greg Stafford and he got 2 week for a jumper punch, Daniel Kerr hit Sam Mitchell in the family jewels and received only 1 game, the AFL tribunal is unpredictable.
The risk was to great to fight it and potentially get an extra game.
I think Roo should take the week's suspension for all the reasons mentioned above. The week off would be very beneficial to him IMO.
Just on the merits of the suspension, it's a tricky one.
I recorded the incident and I've watched it umpteen times.
If I watch it and start with the view that Clement was pushed into Roo, it does look like incidental contact.
If I watch it and start with the view that Roo deliberately hit him, it looks deliberate.
Given that the rewiewing panel have taken the latter view, I wouldn't be appealing it if I were Roo.
As I just posted on another thread, as I hadn't seen this one
"I think Roo should take the week's suspension for all the reasons mentioned above. The week off would be very beneficial to him IMO.
Just on the merits of the suspension, it's a tricky one.
I recorded the incident and I've watched it umpteen times.
If I watch it and start with the view that Clement was pushed into Roo, it does look like incidental contact.
If I watch it and start with the view that Roo deliberately hit him, it looks deliberate.
Given that the rewiewing panel have taken the latter view, I wouldn't be appealing it if I were Roo."
Correct decision by the AFC IMO.
NikkiNoo
8 Aug 2006, 13:29
For me, it's not that he is struggling physically it's more that the opposition is very wary of him in our forward line. They are placing their game plans around really stopping his leads. Now I know that this is normal practice for any team but this would be fairly new to Roo in he is spending most of his time down there. That is what is frustrating him from my observations. Plus we are now bringing the ball down to the forwards a lot slower than previous and other teams are really paying attention to our plays.
He is not down on form as his smart touches when he went into the middle resulted in two goals.
Capitalist
8 Aug 2006, 14:05
Nail. Hammer. Head :thumbsu:
is that the name of your new adult movie stiff ?:D
purple and proud
8 Aug 2006, 14:56
A week for clipping James Clement? Should have been given 2 for not hitting him harder.
A week for clipping James Clement? Should have been given 2 for not hitting him harder.
Farmer on Doughty type knock you think? As for the week off, it will probably do Roo good; not sure it will do the team good though.
He definately needs time off. Whether one week is enough to make a difference I don't know.
Stiffy_18
8 Aug 2006, 16:01
is that the name of your new adult movie stiff ?:D
You just gave me an idea :p
Think Roo deliberately tried to bump Clement, but Clement either slipped or was pushed and Roo hit him a glancing blow on the jaw with his shoulder. Roo was stiff in my opinion, but you can see why the tribunal decided as it did. It looks nastier than the intention by Roo.
absolutezero
8 Aug 2006, 18:16
He needs a week off anyway. Be good for him.
He needs a week off anyway. Be good for him.
...and us! :)
absolutezero
8 Aug 2006, 19:07
He needs a week off anyway. Be good for him.
...and us! :)
Well, then we get either Welsh, Perrie or Bock in, so no, not god for you. Especially with Roo in a small form slump.
Yeah, it seems standard procedure for Bee Dee. He hears them drop a rumour on radio then posts a thread on BF as though he's broken some big news story. A touch sad, really.
agreed. there's someone not getting enough hugs from mummy
I don't think it was unfair. It did look like Roo got Clement in the head with the tip of his elbow. It wasn't heavy contact, but it did look like he got him. No complaints from me.
Fair decision. On another note (haven't seen a thread dedicated to it) Johncock was lucky though, not saying he deserved anything but in another time another place he might have gone just for being silly.
Fair decision. On another note (haven't seen a thread dedicated to it) Johncock was lucky though, not saying he deserved anything but in another time another place he might have gone just for being silly.
If we were playing net-ball - yes. :)
If we were playing net-ball - yes. :)
What I was pointing out is that players have gone for worse, not that they should. ;)
I was at a little Member / Sponsor shindig last night and The Great Man spoke about his suspension and fitness. (sorry - Roo not VB.....:o ).
He was asked the question whether the week off might be a good thing in the long run - and Roo said it definately had some positives to it particularly at his age. He said that he felt a bit unlucky with the suspension - but these days no matter the intent or severity of hit.......if there is high contact - it automatically will get looked at.......:rolleyes: *Roo rolls eyes*:rolleyes:
He said....... "I was actually going to ask for a week off anyway to freshen up as the extra training we've been doing lately has taken a bit of a toll on my old body".
I spoke to him very briefly later and he said that he was a bit stiff and sore - so as I suspected - a week off will do him the world of good - then hopefully straight into the midfield IMO.
jenny61_99
9 Aug 2006, 23:12
I was at a little Member / Sponsor shindig last night and The Great Man spoke about his suspension and fitness. (sorry - Roo not VB.....:o ).
He was asked the question whether the week off might be a good thing in the long run - and Roo said it definately had some positives to it particularly at his age. He said that he felt a bit unlucky with the suspension - but these days no matter the intent or severity of hit.......if there is high contact - it automatically will get looked at.......:rolleyes: *Roo rolls eyes*:rolleyes:
He said....... "I was actually going to ask for a week off anyway to freshen up as the extra training we've been doing lately has taken a bit of a toll on my old body".
I spoke to him very briefly later and he said that he was a bit stiff and sore - so as I suspected - a week off will do him the world of good - then hopefully straight into the midfield IMO.
It's good to see many of us were on the same wave length as Roo. My hubby said that it was clear the extra training was sapping the boys (and this I guess has been evident by the last few weeks performances). Interesting to hear the Captain come out and acknowledge it though. But is this extra training contributing to all the soft tissue injuries we are now being hit with (ala Burton, Hart, Biglands and possibly Hentschell)?
Kickin_Goals
10 Aug 2006, 08:06
It's good to see many of us were on the same wave length as Roo. My hubby said that it was clear the extra training was sapping the boys (and this I guess has been evident by the last few weeks performances). Interesting to hear the Captain come out and acknowledge it though. But is this extra training contributing to all the soft tissue injuries we are now being hit with (ala Burton, Hart, Biglands and possibly Hentschell)?
It would depend on what the training involves, someone of Craig's experience would know what athletes bodies can handle and would be taking precautions against such occurances but not everything can be prevented.
Hart has been plagued with these and the way the game was played being a stop start affair for some would have taken a toll on the players.
jenny61_99
10 Aug 2006, 09:57
It would depend on what the training involves, someone of Craig's experience would know what athletes bodies can handle and would be taking precautions against such occurances but not everything can be prevented.
Hart has been plagued with these and the way the game was played being a stop start affair for some would have taken a toll on the players.
Even Craigy the Magician makes mistakes sometimes too you know! :p
Anyways... better it happens now than in the finals... let's hope they are all fighting fit and raring to go come September!
raikkonen
10 Aug 2006, 19:03
The only footage I saw of the incident was on channel 7 last nite or tuesday night when I was in Perth. From what I saw it was absoluetly ridiculous to even contemplate reporting him, but readong this thread obviously you guys agree that he did strike him, so I'l say Im happy its only one week. It must have happened late during the first qtr, or in the second qtr when I didnt see much of the game?
Have to confess that when I saw the incident during the game I thought, "Whoops, there's a week or two". There is no doubt in my mind that Roo collected him and that it was reckless. I'm just happy that Goodwin and Johncock didn't also get cited.
glad to see someone who thought it was illegit
what is it with crows captains--instead of being tough guys they become snipers eg bickley
if he"s so tough why does he dish out panic handballs when tackled
GoSarge
11 Aug 2006, 23:43
glad to see someone who thought it was illegit
what is it with crows captains--instead of being tough guys they become snipers eg bickley
if he"s so tough why does he dish out panic handballs when tackled
I usually try not to respond to threads that are written by people who have the intellect of an average 12 year old but I'll take this one on.
Snipers ? Both Roo's hits were hits that got the opponent high, they aweren't deliberate acts to cause harm. As for panic handballs - wtf ? As for Bickley, besides one incident, he had an almost perfect tribunal record over his entire career.
**** off and don't come on here if you're going to write cr@p.
Crow-mo
12 Aug 2006, 00:05
I usually try not to respond to threads that are written by people who have the intellect of an average 12 year old but I'll take this one on.
Snipers ? Both Roo's hits were hits that got the opponent high, they aweren't deliberate acts to cause harm. As for panic handballs - wtf ? As for Bickley, besides one incident, he had an almost perfect tribunal record over his entire career.
**** off and don't come on here if you're going to write cr@p.
obviously another troll, or could it be the ninja turtle's trifecta? Passamore/escude/grommy?
nah the last one just doesn't fit.
GoSarge
12 Aug 2006, 00:12
obviously another troll, or could it be the ninja turtle's trifecta? Passamore/escude/grommy?
nah the last one just doesn't fit.
Ninja Turtle trifecta. Thats gold. :thumbsu:
Crow-mo
12 Aug 2006, 00:17
Ninja Turtle trifecta. Thats gold. :thumbsu:
thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. tell your friends :D
GoSarge
12 Aug 2006, 00:21
thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. tell your friends :D
:D
Ah yes, quite the entertainer. I bet you're the guy at parties telling all the jokes impressing everyone.
I usually try not to respond to threads that are written by people who have the intellect of an average 12 year old but I'll take this one on.
Snipers ? Both Roo's hits were hits that got the opponent high, they aweren't deliberate acts to cause harm. As for panic handballs - wtf ? As for Bickley, besides one incident, he had an almost perfect tribunal record over his entire career.
**** off and don't come on here if you're going to write cr@p.
so the truth hurts eh?
if you disagree why not ignore it
why resort to profanities--only shows your IQ and lack of vocabulary
cheers
Crow-mo
12 Aug 2006, 19:49
why resort to profanities--only shows your IQ and lack of vocabulary
was it your mummy or your teacher who told you that? :rolleyes: