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macca69
10 Aug 2006, 09:55
We have been in excellent form in the last few weeks, just peaking at the right time, as opposed to last year when we fell away just before the finals. It's going to be a tough few weeks for the selection committee with Cox, Hunter and Nicoski due back soon and a few guys in excellent WAFL form, and the experience of guys like Banfield will also be valueble. Assuming everyone was fit and available for the first week of the finals what would be our lineup?

Mine is

Wirra Glass B. Jones
Nicoski Graham Hunter
Embley Stenglein Braun
Cousins Hansen Staker
Sampi Lynch Chick

Cox Judd Kerr

Fletcher, Waters, Butler, Seaby

Emg - Selwood, Armstrong, Banfield

A lot can happen between in a month of footy, but depending on the opposition, this is how I would like us to go. Very hard on Selwood, but I just couldn't drop anyone else. I think that with Stenglein and Chick, we don't need another player who is capable of negating an opposition gun. He also doesn't offer us enough offensively in comparison to guys like Butler and Fletcher. He did a good job on Milne, but there are plenty of guys in the side that can play as small defender. I think Selwood has been pretty good this year, but I think he is our 23rd best player at this stage.

Armstrong has been solid since coming into the side, but hasn't done enough to cement a spot in our 22 IMO.

Very hard to leave out Banfield also. He has been very good, and has done his job week in week out. There are just others who are now ahead of him, as they offer us more offensively.

B. Jones may be the one who gets dropped, but I feel his form since returning to the side has been excellent and is the perfect matchup for someone like O'Laughlin, Robertson, Welsh, Buckley who tend to give our backline a fair bit of trouble.

Are we going in a bit too tall with that lineup? I personally don't think so, unless it's wet. But if we do feel we are too tall, then one of Seaby, Staker or Graham may miss. If we had to drop a tall, I would be leaning towards Seaby, but if Cox gets injured we would be screwed.

Some people may feel Nicoski may have to come back through the WAFL. But prior to his injury he was one of our best, most consistant players for the first 11 rounds or so. He would have been in AA contention IMO and has to come straight back in.

People have been calling for Embley to be dropped, which is pretty stupid to say the least IMO. While he isn't in great form. Embley has had a tendancy to get injured 4-6 weeks out from the finals, seems to happen every year. I suspect Woosha has kept him up forward to ensure he is fit come finals time. I suspect he will play on a wing once the finals are under way and will be somewhat underestimated by the opposition (even by some Eagles fans). He is a key component for our finals success and nothing positive will come from dropping him. Dropping your match-winners a few weeks out from the finals is just stupid.

Some people also want Staker to be dropped also. Staker's value to the side is underated and he tends to stand out when he has a poor game. Lyon's comments on him last week may have attributed to a somewhat negative attitude towards him, but Staker has been very good for us this year. He and Hansen seem to work well together and he doesn't deserve to be dropped after a poorish game on a smaller ground, when his opponent had a pretty good game.

Waters spot may have been a little shaky before the Saints game, but there is no way he will be dropped now. Woosha loves him, and his hardness at the ball is invalueble.

I didn't rate Butler all that highly prior to the season starting, thought the hype surrounding him was a little unjustified, although I am very happy to be proved wrong. He has been excellent since coming back into the side and is just a classy footballer. Seems to have a lot of time when he has the ball, and his disposal and decision making seems to have improved a fair bit. He is definately a best 22 player now.

In the absence of Cox Seaby has improved a fair bit. I think he is a better tap ruckman than Cox, some of his hitouts have been exceptional over the past few weeks. He has a lot of potential and could turn out to be as good as Cox.

What do you guys think is our best 22?

sdb4884
10 Aug 2006, 11:31
We have been in excellent form in the last few weeks, just peaking at the right time, as opposed to last year when we fell away just before the finals. It's going to be a tough few weeks for the selection committee with Cox, Hunter and Nicoski due back soon and a few guys in excellent WAFL form, and the experience of guys like Banfield will also be valueble. Assuming everyone was fit and available for the first week of the finals what would be our lineup?

Mine is

Wirra Glass B. Jones
Nicoski Graham Hunter
Embley Stenglein Braun
Cousins Hansen Staker
Sampi Lynch Chick

Cox Judd Kerr

Fletcher, Waters, Butler, Seaby

Emg - Selwood, Armstrong, Banfield

A lot can happen between in a month of footy, but depending on the opposition, this is how I would like us to go. Very hard on Selwood, but I just couldn't drop anyone else. I think that with Stenglein and Chick, we don't need another player who is capable of negating an opposition gun. He also doesn't offer us enough offensively in comparison to guys like Butler and Fletcher. He did a good job on Milne, but there are plenty of guys in the side that can play as small defender. I think Selwood has been pretty good this year, but I think he is our 23rd best player at this stage.

Armstrong has been solid since coming into the side, but hasn't done enough to cement a spot in our 22 IMO.

Very hard to leave out Banfield also. He has been very good, and has done his job week in week out. There are just others who are now ahead of him, as they offer us more offensively.

B. Jones may be the one who gets dropped, but I feel his form since returning to the side has been excellent and is the perfect matchup for someone like O'Laughlin, Robertson, Welsh, Buckley who tend to give our backline a fair bit of trouble.

Are we going in a bit too tall with that lineup? I personally don't think so, unless it's wet. But if we do feel we are too tall, then one of Seaby, Staker or Graham may miss. If we had to drop a tall, I would be leaning towards Seaby, but if Cox gets injured we would be screwed.

Some people may feel Nicoski may have to come back through the WAFL. But prior to his injury he was one of our best, most consistant players for the first 11 rounds or so. He would have been in AA contention IMO and has to come straight back in.

People have been calling for Embley to be dropped, which is pretty stupid to say the least IMO. While he isn't in great form. Embley has had a tendancy to get injured 4-6 weeks out from the finals, seems to happen every year. I suspect Woosha has kept him up forward to ensure he is fit come finals time. I suspect he will play on a wing once the finals are under way and will be somewhat underestimated by the opposition (even by some Eagles fans). He is a key component for our finals success and nothing positive will come from dropping him. Dropping your match-winners a few weeks out from the finals is just stupid.

Some people also want Staker to be dropped also. Staker's value to the side is underated and he tends to stand out when he has a poor game. Lyon's comments on him last week may have attributed to a somewhat negative attitude towards him, but Staker has been very good for us this year. He and Hansen seem to work well together and he doesn't deserve to be dropped after a poorish game on a smaller ground, when his opponent had a pretty good game.

Waters spot may have been a little shaky before the Saints game, but there is no way he will be dropped now. Woosha loves him, and his hardness at the ball is invalueble.

I didn't rate Butler all that highly prior to the season starting, thought the hype surrounding him was a little unjustified, although I am very happy to be proved wrong. He has been excellent since coming back into the side and is just a classy footballer. Seems to have a lot of time when he has the ball, and his disposal and decision making seems to have improved a fair bit. He is definately a best 22 player now.

In the absence of Cox Seaby has improved a fair bit. I think he is a better tap ruckman than Cox, some of his hitouts have been exceptional over the past few weeks. He has a lot of potential and could turn out to be as good as Cox.

What do you guys think is our best 22?

I'd have Selwood in there definatley and Banfield too.

macca69
10 Aug 2006, 11:40
I'd have Selwood in there definatley and Banfield too.

It's easy to say who should be in. How about stating which 2 players should make way for Selwood and Banners?

bunsen burner
10 Aug 2006, 11:41
FB: Wirra Glass Chick
HB: Nicoski Graham Hunter
C: Kerr Stenglein Braun
HF: Embley Hansen Selwood
FF: Sampi Lynch Staker

R: Cox Judd Cousins

IC: Fletcher, Waters, Butler, Seaby

Emg: B.Jones, Armstrong, Banfield

bunsen burner
10 Aug 2006, 11:42
It's easy to say who should be in. How about stating which 2 players should make way for Selwood and Banners?Brett Jones. Selwood gets a game every week. Jones is only getting a run because Hunter and Niko are out.

macca69
10 Aug 2006, 11:47
Brett Jones. Selwood gets a game every week. Jones is only getting a run because Hunter and Niko are out.

Fair enough, but I personally feel that B. Jones adds more to the side than Selwood.

bunsen burner
10 Aug 2006, 11:56
Fair enough, but I personally feel that B. Jones adds more to the side than Selwood.I'll back Woosha's opinion on this one;)

Although I don't mind Brett Jones. But when Hunter and Niko are fit I don't think there'll be a spot for him.

Embers
10 Aug 2006, 12:17
No Selwood, are you fricken retarded. Hes probably top 5 in our best and fairest and is so far away from getting dropped its not funny. Brett Jones opposition is Beau Waters. If he wants to keep his spot thats who he has to knock out of the team

FB: Chick Glass Wirrpanda
CHB: Selwood Hunter Graham
C: Fletcher Judd Braun
CHF: Cousins Hansen Embley
FF: Sampi Lynch Staker
R: Cox Kerr Stenglein
I/C : Waters Seaby Nicoski Butler

dogeatdog
10 Aug 2006, 12:37
No Selwood, are you fricken retarded. Hes probably top 5 in our best and fairest and is so far away from getting dropped its not funny. Brett Jones opposition is Beau Waters. If he wants to keep his spot thats who he has to knock out of the team

FB: Chick Glass Wirrpanda
CHB: Selwood Hunter Graham
C: Fletcher Judd Braun
CHF: Cousins Hansen Embley
FF: Sampi Lynch Staker
R: Cox Kerr Stenglein
I/C : Waters Seaby Nicoski Butler

I agree that Selwood has been in WC top 10 this year, very dependable and rarely gets beaten in his position. Come to think of it could be a candidate for most improved (certainly at the WC, along with Graham)

On sure weight of performances Selwood ahead of B.Jones and Waters. Between Bones and Waters will come down to matchups and form.

I am excited about seeing Embley rip em them up in the finals!

jorel6669
10 Aug 2006, 12:40
B: Chick Glass Wirrpanda
HB: Selwood Hunter Waters
C: Braun Judd Nicoski
HF: Staker Hansen Cousins
F: Sampi Lynch Armstrong
R: Cox Stenglein Kerr
IC: Seaby Embley Butler Graham

Embers
10 Aug 2006, 12:42
B: Chick Glass Wirrpanda
HB: Selwood Hunter Waters
C: Braun Judd Nicoski
HF: Staker Hansen Cousins
F: Sampi Lynch Armstrong
R: Cox Stenglein Kerr
IC: Seaby Embley Butler Graham

No Fletcher, thats silly, his form over the past six weeks has been very good IMO, much better then Embleys

94_Eagles
10 Aug 2006, 13:26
Interesting that next to no one has Banfield in the 22.

bunsen burner
10 Aug 2006, 13:32
Interesting that next to no one has Banfield in the 22.He would have easily made it last year. This year he hasn't been consistent. Some days he's good but on others he's been a liability.

Big Cox
10 Aug 2006, 14:15
FB: Chick Glass Wirrpunda
CHB: Selwood Graham B.Jones
C: Embley Judd Braun
CHF: Fletcher Hansen Cousins
FF: Sampi Hunter Lynch
CR: Cox Kerr Stenglein
I/C: Waters Nicoski Seaby Armstrong
EMG: Butler Rowan Jones Staker

I think Hunter Nicoski wont have the fitness to move back into the defense. Our defense has done fine without Hunter. Obviously if Graham fails at CHB just swap him and Graham around. Brett Joned can play as a tall defender if need be too.

jorel6669
10 Aug 2006, 14:22
No Fletcher, thats silly, his form over the past six weeks has been very good IMO, much better then Embleys

We all know the selectors will drop Armstrong before Fletcher. But my opinion is that Army offers a bit more to the side than Fletcher.

Embley's a different player than either of them and could be a hard match up for other teams.

End of the day, it comes down to team balance.

peterss
10 Aug 2006, 16:01
Mine is

Wirra Glass B. Jones
Nicoski Graham Hunter
Embley Stenglein Braun
Cousins Hansen Staker
Sampi Lynch Chick

Cox Judd Kerr

Fletcher, Waters, Selwood, Seaby

Emg - Butler, Armstrong, Banfield

ekzistenz
10 Aug 2006, 16:28
Wirrpanda Glass Waters
Nicoski Hunter Graham
Fletcher Stenglein Braun
Staker Hansen Embley
Sampi Lynch Chick

Ruck: Cox Cousins Judd
Interchange: Kerr Butler Selwood Seaby

My team is obviously the best ;) (IMO)

Waters and Chick can be interchanged. Both apply a lot of pressure on the opposition.
Kerr coming off the bench as a sparkplug. If he's starting Fletcher will be relegated to the bench.

kimbev
16 Aug 2006, 01:33
Mine would be:

B: Wirrpanda, Glass, Waters
HB: Selwood, Hunter, Nicoski
C: Stenglein, Cousins, Braun
HF: Staker, Hansen, Embley
F: Sampi, Lynch, Chick
R: Cox, Judd, Kerr
Int: Fletcher, R.Jones, Seaby, Graham
Emg: B.Jones, Armstrong, Butler

ekzistenz
16 Aug 2006, 01:38
I've done it because of team balance. Graham is my third tall defender. Of course if the opposition team has a smaller forward line Selwood might start. It's just about matching up with the opposition. Would you chuck Selwood in on an opposing tall forward just because he's "miles ahead" of Graham?

Svenny
16 Aug 2006, 12:43
the great thing about our best 22 is that it has depth now because Cox and Hunts were injured Graham and Seaby have stepped up and grabbed thier chance...

I think youll see Hunter playing as permanent half fwd in the finals alos expect to see Cox spend a fair bit of time fwd also which is a great luxuary for us to have...geez I cant wait untill we have our best 222 out there...I have grave fears for young Nicoski though a busted ankle is a longish injury...I have doubts he'll make it back...I hope I'm wrong though

freo1
16 Aug 2006, 12:46
with cox and hunter back and seaby doing good, drop graham, get army in!

94_Eagles
16 Aug 2006, 14:42
with cox and hunter back and seaby doing good, drop graham, get army in!

Um, no.

Big Cox
16 Aug 2006, 14:51
If we want to go the whole way we have to get deadweght like Rowan Jones and Steven Armstrong out of the side, we should be able to do that before finals time :thumbsu:

FiveStrings
16 Aug 2006, 17:57
Interesting that everyone has Sampi in their 22. He'd need to improve a fair bit on last week's effort to avoid getting dropped again.

Hansen's also a little injury prone - if he's still injured or not fit come finals time I think either Graham or Hunter would go forward and B Jones would come in as a third tall.

My 22:

B: Wirrpanda Glass Graham
HB: Nicoski Hunter Selwood
C: Fletcher Cousins Braun
HF: Embley Hansen Stenglein
F: Chick Lynch Staker
R: Cox Judd Kerr

Int: Butler Seaby R Jones Waters
Em: Banfield B Jones Armstrong (Rosa Morton Sampi...)

ekzistenz
16 Aug 2006, 20:53
Well if theres 3 tall forwards fair enough. But Selwood is almost too good to leave on the bench. Id squeeze him into the middle somewhere.

Yeah true, but who would you take out of the middle for him? The only one I see is maybe Fletcher. But if I take Fletcher out I'd probably put Kerr in. I like the advantage of having two players that are hard at the ball starting on the bench. It's not as if starting on the bench is really a bad thing anyway. He'll still get plenty of time.