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dmc333
10 Aug 2006, 14:11
*Possible spoiler*

Maybe I have to watch it again, it was the only film I've been looking forward to this year but I was let down.

Very disjointed, there didn't seem to be any character development, the HD video was breaking up badly in some spots (i don't remember Collateral looking that bad) The final shootout was completely confusing, I'm sure i could have recut it better myself, you could never tell which side you were on. I'm guessing that was a direct result of the HD.
At the beginning you were dropped in the middle of a scene, which was somewhat confusing and I've read that there was another opening scene which was cut and may have explained what they were actually doing in this new opening. I really didn't feel any tension during the whole film (well there was one scene) like anyone's life was really on the line.
Considering I'd made my own trailer (http://www.zippyvideos.com/6302431955277676/miami_vice/) a while back, I'm no hater, this is coming from someone with high expectations.

It looked gritty and real and felt real (although i've never been undercover, so I wouldn't know) which were the positives. Oh and Gong Li looked sh1t hot for a 41 year old woman :thumbsu:
Considering it's Michael Mann I'm willing to give it another shot, but it was nowhere near the level of Heat.

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Diego
10 Aug 2006, 14:14
Tell me what re-make of a classic has ever been better than the original. You would have thought studio execs would have learnt by now.

I thought it would be the end of the remake with "The Italian Job" but i guess it wasn't.

dmc333
10 Aug 2006, 14:22
Tell me what re-make of a classic has ever been better than the original. You would have thought studio execs would have learnt by now.

I thought it would be the end of the remake with "The Italian Job" but i guess it wasn't.

Yeah but Michael Mann was behind the original show and this wasn't some lame arse Starsky and Hutch remake, this was a legit crime drama.
I guess if it was by anyone else and not called 'Miami Vice' I wouldn't have been so down on it, but for what and who was involved and what it delivered, it just wasn't there.
I'm sure this type of world is disjointed and confusing, but there didn't seem any flow and most significantly I didn't learn a thing about Crocket and Tubbs.

bunsen burner
10 Aug 2006, 14:25
I want to know why, given it's an 80s show, Colin Farrel is sporting a 70s porno tash?

And is the person on the planet who loves himself more than Jamie Foxx? I thought Puff Daddy was bad.

bunsen burner
10 Aug 2006, 14:27
Tell me what re-make of a classic has ever been better than the original. You would have thought studio execs would have learnt by now.

I thought it would be the end of the remake with "The Italian Job" but i guess it wasn't.I'd hardly call the TV show "a classic". But in saying that, the remakes of lame TV shows end up just as lame when they should be much much better.

Starsky & Hutch was ok.

dmc333
10 Aug 2006, 14:32
I want to know why, given it's an 80s show, Colin Farrel is sporting a 70s porno tash?

And is the person on the planet who loves himself more than Jamie Foxx? I thought Puff Daddy was bad.

I think porno mo's are coming back in the US, so that might explain it.

Have to agree on Jamie Foxx, i read he b1tched and moaned throughout the whole production as this was just after he won the oscar, demanded more money. Was scared to be in the light planes and go on the boats. Apparently there was a shooting in the Dominican Rebublic, near the set, Foxx left and wouldn't come back meaning the ending had to be rewritten.

GeeCat
10 Aug 2006, 18:08
Fairly average.

I still enjoyed it visually though, even if it is a peg or two below Collateral's offering. Not enough Mann-liness to the overall plot/character development though - doesn't deviate enough from your typical action flicks (at least, from what I expected of Mann and his flicks).

Gridlock'd
13 Aug 2006, 21:58
What a fizzer.

Was just a bit too confusing for me. No real storyline, or character development as others have said. The final shootout, although being confusing was visually pleasing.

bunsen burner
13 Aug 2006, 22:42
I think porno mo's are coming back in the US, so that might explain it.

Have to agree on Jamie Foxx, i read he b1tched and moaned throughout the whole production as this was just after he won the oscar, demanded more money. Was scared to be in the light planes and go on the boats. Apparently there was a shooting in the Dominican Rebublic, near the set, Foxx left and wouldn't come back meaning the ending had to be rewritten.When interviewed re Jarhead:

journo: You were quite arrogant, rude, stand offish, and refused to hang with the crew whilst filming the movie. Was that premeditated so you could get into your role?

Foxx: No, I rolled up in me own trailer with everything going on, girls everywhere. I just didn't want to hang with them because I'm too cool for them (or words to that effect).


What a complete ****wit.

DoubleA
14 Aug 2006, 10:21
I thought that, even after 2h15m, the story wasnt explained enough. As others said it moved too fast and quite frankily, when theres an Irishman doing a Southern American accent (which I might add changed a few times during the movie as well) Jamie Foxx speaking too fast, lots of South-American English speakers I think I missed a few key lines as well.

There was too much lingo for my liking, without explaining enough, and transitions shots left us with little to no explination, and also bizarre scenes like Colin Farrel saying "coming with me" they get on a boat and just drive off into the middle of the ocean? Ahh, where did he think he was going, he's a cop but all of a sudden has marine skills, and Jamie Foxx being able to fly a plane? eh.

sarbbo
14 Aug 2006, 10:36
Hard to follow, crazy camera work, weird accents, waste of $15.50.:thumbsd:

The Legend
14 Aug 2006, 10:59
I'd hardly call the TV show "a classic". But in saying that, the remakes of lame TV shows end up just as lame when they should be much much better.

Exactly.

Starsky & Hutch was ok.

Yep, and the Brady Bunch movies were also enjoyable. I think that's because those fillums didn't take themselves seriously, and gave continual winks and nods to the original source material. Miami Vice doesn't do this. Nor should it have too either. But it was a "campy" 80's TV series, that they've tried to turn into a "serious" action movie. I can't see that working.

Embers
14 Aug 2006, 11:26
Jamie Foxx = Worst actor I have ever seen

Isnt even good enough to get a gig on Neighbours

go_the_bombers
14 Aug 2006, 11:59
Jamie Foxx = Worst actor I have ever seen

Isnt even good enough to get a gig on Neighbours

I wouldnt mind not been able to act with the money he gets

TheColeTrain
14 Aug 2006, 15:41
havent seen it and wont see it either, im ****ing sick of the crap that the movie industry continues to give us, they just make remakes of old movies or TV shows, most of which are crap and totally unecasary the only movie like this i will be seeing is Rocky 6, and if they dont give us that they put together the crapiest storyline imagineable and chuck in a few special effects to keep people happy, all the while neglegting the most important part of a movie- the story line.
Please, please give us some decent ORIGINAL movies because im sick of seeing a movie and it turns out being a total piec of ****

dmc333
14 Aug 2006, 17:12
If you're familiar with the TV series, you'll find that the movie is very similar to episode 15 in series 1, called smugglers blues.
I watched the episode the other day and there are similar lines and scenes, especially Trudy in the trailer with the bomb.

When the end credits rolled my initial response was "that's it?" because as far as characters we got nothing, I've since heard there's a possibility of a missing 30 minutes being reincluded in the film on DVD.
And if you've seen any of the trailers you'll notice there were many cut lines and scenes that didn't make the film, usually it's the reverse. I smell the hand of a studio pushing out an unfinished film to make the release date.

Power21
14 Aug 2006, 17:24
I'm suprised you were actually loking forward to this crap.

GeneralDisarray
14 Aug 2006, 17:28
Miami Vice > all of you.

Maybe you would've enjoyed The Sentinel or The Lake House more.

GeneralDisarray
14 Aug 2006, 17:30
Tell me what re-make of a classic has ever been better than the original. You would have thought studio execs would have learnt by now.


Cape Fear
The Thing
War Of The Worlds

Power21
14 Aug 2006, 17:37
Miami Vice > all of you.

Maybe you would've enjoyed The Sentinel or The Lake House more.

Anything that stars Farrell and Foxx is destined to be a crap movie, but probably loved by mindless fanboys of miami vice, like yourself.

GeneralDisarray
14 Aug 2006, 17:42
Anything that stars Farrell and Foxx is destined to be a crap movie, but probably loved by mindless fanboys of miami vice, like yourself.

I'm not a fan of the show

dmc333
14 Aug 2006, 17:49
I'm suprised you were actually loking forward to this crap.

Never heard of Michael Mann, obviously.

GeeCat
14 Aug 2006, 18:14
For what it's worth, the movie had nothing to do with the 80's show.

(Apart from the fact that a white guy played Crockett, and a black guy likewise for Tubbs).

SaintsSupporter
14 Aug 2006, 20:18
I haven't seen it yet but it's got shocking reviews. I wasn't impressed by the previews at all, looks like I'll either give this one a miss or borrow it from someone in a few years ;x

TheColeTrain
15 Aug 2006, 16:08
Miami Vice > all of you.

Maybe you would've enjoyed The Sentinel or The Lake House more.
sorry if i prefer my movies to be good and original, sorry i have the patience to sit through a movie with a good PLOT rather then needing visual effects to keep me entertained

bunsen burner
15 Aug 2006, 16:11
Saw it yesterday. Average. Not good but also not bad.

windyhill
15 Aug 2006, 21:34
I'd hardly call the TV show "a classic".

bb, The t.v series was a classic, must watch viewing. saw the film on Sunday, thought it was ok.

Seb
15 Aug 2006, 23:51
Worst movie i've seen all year.

GeneralDisarray
17 Aug 2006, 16:08
Michael Mann films are like Wes Anderson's

You either love them or you don't understand them.