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Just a question to you fellow eagle supporters HOW IN HELL DOES ROJO STAY IN THE TEAM , he gives nothing and is holding up a position for younger players eg Priddis or Hurn he is just so aggrivating .
Just a question to you fellow eagle supporters HOW IN HELL DOES ROJO STAY IN THE TEAM , he gives nothing and is holding up a position for younger players eg Priddis or Hurn he is just so aggrivating .
Geez - Leave the guy alone!
He gives his all every week.
stinger05
10 Aug 2006, 23:28
Get him out. I know we dont have many marking players around his size but i cant watch him kick anymore, ive had enough!!!
Rojo isnt that bad is he?
His overhead mark is great and his hands are sure in traffic.
Maybe the Eagles are getting his trade value up?
Just a question to you fellow eagle supporters HOW IN HELL DOES ROJO STAY IN THE TEAM , he gives nothing and is holding up a position for younger players eg Priddis or Hurn he is just so aggrivating .
Nope, in the best 22 at the moment, the guy is in form, does the teams things and gets his hands on the ball time and time again. His only neagtive is his kicking, but if he gets the ball and dishes out a handball, he's in!
I'll tell you why he's in the team....
he averages 21 touches a game in 06..
He ranks 5th at west coast for winning contested posssessions (bet you didnt knoe that!!)
He also ranks 5th at west coast for marks taken per game (he's very good overhead)
AND for errors he ranks 8th which isnt bad at all dispells many myths about him
Some history
in 04 he avergaed 12 touches game...in 2005 he averaged 15 touches game......so to jump up to 21 in in one season is phenominal effort who ought to be applauded......not bagged bu dumb sipporters who know little
Woosha doesnt care about names he cares about productivity..Rojo performs...end of story
Quality over quantity.
But I sure didnt know about the contested poss stat.
Well done Cab Man :thumbsu:
wce4premiership
10 Aug 2006, 23:54
he gives his all every week so i like him in the team and i don't mind his kicking because he has recognised he can't do it so he handballs heaps, the thing that annoys me is his slow decision making
94_Eagles
10 Aug 2006, 23:58
So Armstrong and whom make way for Nicoski and Hunter? RoJo? Staker or Hansen? We also have no idea how Woosha rates Banners atm, but you really do have to have him in the team for the finals, got too much experience for us to leave him out.
sammyg77
10 Aug 2006, 23:59
We need him.
Provides another running midfielder for us, gets a fair amount of the ball and he can mark it. We are going for a premiership here!!! Its not the time to put kids in. We need experience and strong bodies.
Yes his kicking is not that crash hot however he is a very important cog in a midfield machine which is running hot at the moment.
Why try and fix something which aint broken???
Rowan Jones cops so much unwarranted crap it's not funny. Has missed a couple of easy shots for goal and turned the ball over a few times in the last fortnight. Big deal, Beau Waters makes just as many errors but noone's on his back (and nor should they be, he's an excellent player aswell).
Ruddiger
11 Aug 2006, 00:10
Rojo is good at most areas, except a critical one called 'kicking'.
Unfortunately for Rojo, this is a crucial skill.
Top marks for heart and effort though.
Yes his kicking does need improving thats why we need a full package not just another 50 -50 player
ekzistenz
11 Aug 2006, 00:25
If it comes down to it, it's probably a choice between him and Butler and I prefer Butler because he has better disposal by foot. It pains me to see Rojo kick for goals. However, he is pretty decent in some areas such as tackling and overhead.
They both have pretty similar stats, but Butler is 6 years younger with more room for improvement.
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/compare_players?tid1=116&pid1=336&tid2=116&pid2=2004091
daddy_4_eyes
11 Aug 2006, 00:28
He's been a long time servant of the club and always gives 100%. He doesn't deserve to cop this sort of sh.t from supporters.
I don't mind RoJo sometimes. He does put in a lot. But for god sakes keep him away from the goals. He cannot kick for ****, no matter how close he is. Handballing is good
JuddyisGod
11 Aug 2006, 00:35
Why start a stupid thread like this? several of us don't think he should be in the team at the present time (myself included) but you can't deny his commitment to the team, it was just last year that he committed to the Eagles verbally and said that despite knowing he would be in most teams 22 every week he was an Eagle first and foremost. You can't question the guys commitment and to see stupid threads like this from so called fans just annoys me, as he's done nothing to warrant it, other than give his all for the club, something you could use some advice on.
Quality over quantity.
But I sure didnt know about the contested poss stat.
Well done Cab Man :thumbsu:
BUT I bet 100 pasos woosha and his coaches know that stat:D
ekzistenz
11 Aug 2006, 00:41
BUT I bet 100 pasos woosha and his coaches know that stat:D
But compared to Butler who's Rojo main competition for that spot it's only .3 more per game.
Jones > Butler, it's not even close. Butler's great, and will hopefully stick around at the club for years to come but Rowan Jones is a better player. JuddyisGod is right on the money. Supporters who pick a player to constantly bag are sickening.
There's this enormously fat guy whose seat is right behind mine and all he does all game long is bitch and moan and complain about how bad the Eagles are, how useless they are, how many goals we've given the other team today. Every time I read posts like this I can just imagine that big fat guy sitting at the computer typing away.
section8
11 Aug 2006, 01:03
Jones > Butler, it's not even close. Butler's great, and will hopefully stick around at the club for years to come but Rowan Jones is a better player.
He can't kick.
He's sluggish.
He is slow to react.
He is not in the same league as Butler.
He can't kick.
He's slow.
He is slow to react.
He is not in the same league as Butler.
He's slow? Why? Because you see him alongside Chris Judd?
To say he's not in the same league as Butler is amazing...I thought Eagles supporters were smarter than Dockers supporters, but after reading some of these posts I'm not so sure.
section8
11 Aug 2006, 01:08
He's slow? Why? Because you see him alongside Chris Judd?
To say he's not in the same league as Butler is amazing...I thought Eagles supporters were smarter than Dockers supporters, but after reading some of these posts I'm not so sure.
OK, he's quick. Whatever.
ekzistenz
11 Aug 2006, 01:09
Jones > Butler, it's not even close. Butler's great, and will hopefully stick around at the club for years to come but Rowan Jones is a better player. JuddyisGod is right on the money. Supporters who pick a player to constantly bag are sickening.
That's personal opinion and in my opinion whilst Butler may not be the better all round player yet, he has more potential and I think will be better then him in the future. I don't pick a player to constantly bag, but when it comes to choosing a team I like to pick the players that I think will help our team towards that day in September the most. In this case I think that player is Butler, over Jones.
There's this enormously fat guy whose seat is right behind mine and all he does all game long is bitch and moan and complain about how bad the Eagles are, how useless they are, how many goals we've given the other team today. Every time I read posts like this I can just imagine that big fat guy sitting at the computer typing away.
Have you ever thought that this guy might be a Dockers supporter ;)
Black Thunder
11 Aug 2006, 01:11
aside from a kicking he's allright.
the problem is his kicking is getting worse every year.
i reckon if you set up a circle 1 metre in diameter, 35 metres away from and had ten kicks at the circle, he'd hit the circle less than anyone in the competition.... i'd even back myself to hit it more often than him.
He's also slow (both on his feet and decision making) and cumbersome when he takes the ball and has to play on (i.e. not a mark or free kick)....
But his marking is excellent (always has been) and has been getting even better this year.
Is still (just) in our best 22 IMO.
If he could just takes marks and dish off hands to the running player it would be sensational.... but you do get nervous when he has to kick or gets the ball in broken plan... anything can happen.
That's personal opinion and in my opinion whilst Butler may not be the better all round player yet, he has more potential and I think will be better then him in the future.
Maybe it is personal opinion, and one word I'll highlight out of that sentence is "potential". Yes, he has more potential than Jones, but potential doesn't win flags. We're staring a premiership in the face, and while it's great to give younger players a run in the big time, we can't depend on them yet. In a few years sure, but this year we need players like Jones to stand up and be counted. Does noone remember his first month? He was astoundingly good, and I firmly believe he can recapture that form.
ekzistenz
11 Aug 2006, 01:20
Maybe it is personal opinion, and one word I'll highlight out of that sentence is "potential". Yes, he has more potential than Jones, but potential doesn't win flags. We're staring a premiership in the face, and while it's great to give younger players a run in the big time, we can't depend on them yet. In a few years sure, but this year we need players like Jones to stand up and be counted. Does noone remember his first month? He was astoundingly good, and I firmly believe he can recapture that form.
Yes, although Jones is better overall at the moment I wouldn't say it's by that much which is why I'd choose the player with the most potential. Also there's one respect where I believe Butler is better then Rojo and that's delivery into our forward line which I believe is very important.
But we're heading towards a chance to play in a Grand Final, with just a couple of months left to play. I just think you have to go with the best possible team, and Jones edges out Butler. I do understand what you're saying, I just don't think the timing's right to be blooding the young'uns.
Contrarian
11 Aug 2006, 01:28
He can't kick.
He's sluggish.
He is slow to react.
He is not in the same league as Butler.
You are spot on... Slow and Sluggish absolute useless
Y drop B.Jones should be Rowan Jones he is a hack....:confused:
ekzistenz
11 Aug 2006, 01:39
But we're heading towards a chance to play in a Grand Final, with just a couple of months left to play. I just think you have to go with the best possible team, and Jones edges out Butler. I do understand what you're saying, I just don't think the timing's right to be blooding the young'uns.
It's not really blooding a youngster though. Butler has been playing for 3 years and is averaging 18 possessions per game. I think he is in the best possible team because of his kicking ability and his delivery into our forward line.
Jones can have more impact on a game than Butler can. I thought you said Jones is a better all-round player?
ekzistenz
11 Aug 2006, 01:47
Jones can have more impact on a game than Butler can. I thought you said Jones is a better all-round player?
Yep, I did.
Lynch drops a mark
11 Aug 2006, 02:06
he might not be very good but for the most part he is very effective, knows where to go ect to make the most of what he can do.
Scotland
11 Aug 2006, 02:06
Just a question to you fellow eagle supporters HOW IN HELL DOES ROJO STAY IN THE TEAM , he gives nothing and is holding up a position for younger players eg Priddis or Hurn he is just so aggrivating .
Scapegoat board.
I'd argue working hard in an under to feed the ball out to our runners isn't 'nothing' in the eyes of the West Coast match committee. Let's not forget RoJo has been dropped twice this year. If the match committee consider that a Priddis or a Hurn will bring more to the team at a particular point in time then I'm sure they will make a change.
Let's drop RoJo because his footskills aren't great/he looks slow...
Let's drop Lynch because he doesn't bag 5 goals every week...
Who's next?
Surely we can do better than starting threads with the sole purpose of bagging our own players.
94_Eagles
11 Aug 2006, 02:17
Just a question to you fellow eagle supporters HOW IN HELL DOES ROJO STAY IN THE TEAM , he gives nothing and is holding up a position for younger players eg Priddis or Hurn he is just so aggrivating .
Great post, full of substance and insightful analysis such as 'he gives nothing'.
:rolleyes:
prized bitch
11 Aug 2006, 02:47
I'm not a fan of Rowan Jones. I have no problem in saying that.
The problem with Jones is that we are seeing him at his best. His current form is (most likely) all he has to offer to the team. I'd much rather like to see a younger player in ahead of him, a player that, when at their best, could potenatially offer a lot more than Rowan Jones offers.
I'm not a fan of Rowan Jones. I have no problem in saying that.
The problem with Jones is that we are seeing him at his best. His current form is (most likely) all he has to offer to the team. I'd much rather like to see a younger player in ahead of him, a player that, when at their best, could potenatially offer a lot more than Rowan Jones offers.
That's garbage. Utter garbage. The best I've ever seen him play was the first month or so of the year. He was finding more of the ball than Judd, Cousins, and Kerr, and while maybe not as damaging as them was having a huge impact on games.
He offers so much more to the team than everyone here thinks. As previously mentioned, he's a good tough in and under player. His marking ability just adds to that.
section8
11 Aug 2006, 03:57
That's garbage. Utter garbage. The best I've ever seen him play was the first month or so of the year.
So too has fletcher for most of the year. Didn't mean that overall, his perfermances were just mediocre at best and that his head wasn't on the chopping block.
The Derby was the first game we played with an opponent playing it at finals intensity . Rojo was deplorable after doing very well in the first few rounds when the pressure wasn't on so much. If he is in the 22 due to his experience and will be playing finals if not injured then I reckon he will be a liability ala some nameless boys in the 05 gf. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong.
hawkeye23
11 Aug 2006, 09:24
His kicking is atrocious, and he is damn slow to make a decision when he is out in space. That said, he's good in close, which is why he's probably still getting a game.
Gunnar Longshanks
11 Aug 2006, 11:38
RoJo doesn't do any damage when pushing forward.
Nor is he quick enough to shut down an opposition play-maker.
He just trundles back and forth between the 50m arcs racking up handballs.
Not good enough.
this is unfair on him....if rojo isnt in the best 22 thats fine I can accept arguements he is or isnt thats fine....but to run him down and say he's useless and racks up easy kicks is rubbish *%$@#$% rubbish actually and not based on fact or reason.....I havent played AFL bt I reckon to average 21 touches agame shows he isnt just racking up soft possessions......its also backed by the fact that he's 5th in hard ball gets for west coast (contested possessions)...that shows he's improved...telll me how a guy who averaged only 12 touches a game in 2004 to 21 this season deserves criticisng..wether he's in or out of the side
Rowan Jones has improved his performance more than any eagle by a long way in that same time peroid......I can accept peopole bagging McDougal and others but when somone improves like he has he only deserves praise in my books not cjildish name callers who call themselves supporters
We need him.
Provides another running midfielder for us, gets a fair amount of the ball and he can mark it. We are going for a premiership here!!! Its not the time to put kids in. We need experience and strong bodies.
Yes his kicking is not that crash hot however he is a very important cog in a midfield machine which is running hot at the moment.
Why try and fix something which aint broken???
Stop it samuso.....
lloydbraun
11 Aug 2006, 14:21
Rowan Jones is in the best 22 for his haircut
94_Eagles
11 Aug 2006, 14:58
RoJo doesn't do any damage when pushing forward.
Nor is he quick enough to shut down an opposition play-maker.
He just trundles back and forth between the 50m arcs racking up handballs.
Not good enough.
Does usually bob up for one or two marks inside 50 a game. Then again it's probably because the opposition knows he ain't gonna kick it.
GoBackToVFL
11 Aug 2006, 19:58
Rowan Jones is in the best 22 for his haircut
he's balding a little in the back there
i was so frustrated seeing him in the saints game not doing ANY 1%ers wasn''t chasing down his opponent, wasn't tackling, not even feining for a smother and once he even walked up to the marking opponent and let him just run off into his 50m arc. His goal accuracy is terrible and he's very slow to make a decision once he's got it, though his disposals aren't nearly as bad as fletcher.
of course this is camparing to the likes of cousins, kerr, and even sampi the last few games. Put him in any other team and he'd probably be above average.
i think the other jones is better, though i am a little biased
, though his disposals aren't nearly as bad as fletcher.
As the season progresses Fletchers disposal is getting better and better.
Dont get me wrong I was all over him at hte start of the season but he has improved.
Rojo will ALWAYS be shocking by foot.
It's a little rough to say his disposal is worse than Rojo's.
No one's disposal is worse than Rojo's not even Michael Embley's!! :eek:
Wonder what we think after todays game?
Mentioned it in another thread but he was solid. Played better than his direct opponent all day. Didn't get that much of the ball, but played his usual link-up role well, with no turnovers that spring to mind.
Wasnt rojo the one who was playing on cory jones when he kicked a bag?
I know there was one where Jones was covering for someone else. Don't recall him playing on Corey (very poor match up if he did), but he may have had one kicked on him.
Gunnar Longshanks
12 Aug 2006, 22:41
Mentioned it in another thread but he was solid. Played better than his direct opponent all day. Didn't get that much of the ball, but played his usual link-up role well, with no turnovers that spring to mind.What about the time he gathered the ball running up from HF, only for his handball to trickle onto the ground while the intended target ran past unattended?
It's very well to defend RoJo, and argue that he's not as bad as everyone claims.
But what does he add? What does he bring to our side?
Brett Jones should be getting a regular game in defence. He would actually add something.
larrikin
12 Aug 2006, 22:43
Wasnt rojo the one who was playing on cory jones when he kicked a bag?
Aaaaaah, no
Did you watch the game
And BTW, as I've said in other places, to bag one of our own like this, and especially a bloke who is so loyal to our club, is a disgrace
larrikin
12 Aug 2006, 22:44
What about the time he gathered the ball running up from HF, only for his handball to trickle onto the ground while the intended target ran past unattended?
It's very well to defend RoJo, and argue that he's not as bad as everyone claims.
But what does he add? What does he bring to our side?
Brett Jones should be getting a regular game in defence. He would actually add something.
Id love to see Brett Jones in the side - but he's not competing for the same spot. Rowan's a midfielder - even you know that Gunnar
What about the time he gathered the ball running up from HF, only for his handball to trickle onto the ground while the intended target ran past unattended?
It's very well to defend RoJo, and argue that he's not as bad as everyone claims.
But what does he add? What does he bring to our side?
Brett Jones should be getting a regular game in defence. He would actually add something.
You're comparing apples and oranges. Brett Jones doesn't get a game most weeks because, as I've mentioned, he's competing for a spot in the backline with players who are better than him.
Rowan (along with Butler, Armstrong etc) slots into those extra few spots that there are on every team for players that can play in a few positions and spend time in the middle to allow relief for the first pick midfielders. They're a necessity and he fills the role. That's what he brings to the team. Not 30 touches explosive touches like you want. He's a role-player.
bassmanx
12 Aug 2006, 22:46
Can anyone give me a solid reason as to why Rojo is keeping Rosa out of the team?
Aaaaaah, no
Did you watch the game
And BTW, as I've said in other places, to bag one of our own like this, and especially a bloke who is so loyal to our club, is a disgrace
Obviosley i wasnt there must have been another guy who attends every eagles match, and according to you who say we shouldnt drop him because he is loyal who gives a rats arse he handalls the ball like a lesbian, if you dont play up to standards you dont deserve to be in the team.
He's not saying we shouldn't drop him because he's loyal. He's saying (like I am) that he plays the part the coach tells him to, nothing more, nothing less. He's saying attacking a player like this just for the hell of it because you don't understand the game is moronic.
He's not saying we shouldn't drop him because he's loyal. He's saying (like I am) that he plays the part the coach tells him to, nothing more, nothing less. He's saying attacking a player like this just for the hell of it because you don't understand the game is moronic.
I dont understand the game do i, i dont hate the guy but i honestly think that he is not putting in 100% and its time to see what other players have to offer eg priddis and hurn. Do you understand that?
Stenglein's a Champ!
12 Aug 2006, 22:57
If we're talking about role playing than what about Matt Priddis? He could play a similar role to Rojo with one added advantage, Matt can kick!
I don't doubt that Rojo puts in 100%, but i just don't think he's up to our standard of midfield.
Gunnar Longshanks
12 Aug 2006, 23:08
Id love to see Brett Jones in the side - but he's not competing for the same spot. Rowan's a midfielder - even you know that GunnarIs that how you think about our side?
Do you divide it into defenders, midfielders and forwards?
Pretty simplistic.
Brett Jones should be holding down a spot on a HBF. That would release one of the part-time defenders we're currently playing to go elsewhere.
I'd rather see Beau Waters in the midfield ahead of RoJo.
The inclusion of Brett Jones would facilitate that.
If you want to adopt a condescending tone, then you better have something to say.
Gunnar Longshanks
12 Aug 2006, 23:12
You're comparing apples and oranges. Brett Jones doesn't get a game most weeks because, as I've mentioned, he's competing for a spot in the backline with players who are better than him.It's not European Handball.
The game isn't divided up in the clear-cut way you're suggesting it is.
We're not bound to have a set number of midfielders, forwards and defenders.
It's about match-ups.
With Hunter missing, I'd be playing Bones on the third opposition tall forward.
He would offer more in that role than what RoJo offers in the role currently assigned to him.
Butler would fill RoJo's role better than RoJo himself.
His kicking is 100 times better and he is good in traffic.
West Coast wont drop RoJo though until his disposal count comes down.
Consistent clangers seem to be ignored by the match commitee.
Just pointing out that we would be better served by other players who constantly wait in the wings.
Having said all that would any club barter a trade for him?
Yeah good idea, move Waters out of the position he's played brilliantly the last month or so and into the midfield.
Butler would fill RoJo's role better than RoJo himself.
His kicking is 100 times better and he is good in traffic.
West Coast wont drop RoJo though until his disposal count comes down.
Consistent clangers seem to be ignored by the match commitee.
Just pointing out that we would be better served by other players who constantly wait in the wings.
Having said all that would any club barter a trade for him?
Butler, alongside Jones, both filled the role well today.
Seriously...I'm sure Worsfold and the match committee know more about football than anyone here. Players are assigned roles, if they fill them, they'll most likely stay in the team. This same coach and match committee took the team to a Grand Final last year, and have them poised to do it again.
Why you all think you're so much smarter than Worsfold and co. is beyond me.
peterss
12 Aug 2006, 23:25
RoJo its time to go once again!
RoJo its time to go once again!
Bcoz he sux0rz?
Gunnar Longshanks
12 Aug 2006, 23:27
Yeah good idea, move Waters out of the position he's played brilliantly the last month or so.Brilliantly?
Get real. He's been good, but how far ahead of yourself do you want to get?
Besides, you can still leave Waters in defence. I just pointed to him as an example on how our rotations wouldn't suffer if Bones replaced RoJo.
We'd have an extra specialist defender, replacing a slow midfielder who can't kick.
Waters is one of several players who could rotate through the middle to account for RoJo's absence.
Or do you think that because Waters is named on a HBF he should play there for 4 quarters?
Why you all think you're so much smarter than Worsfold and co. is beyond me.
Who the hell said this??
We are supporters on a forum discussing the best for our club.
There is no insinuation of being smarter than Whoosha.
None at all.
Gunnar Longshanks
12 Aug 2006, 23:30
Why you all think you're so much smarter than Worsfold and co. is beyond me.So you would never ever disagree with any decision taken by the match committee?
You would never question a team selection?
You would never question a tactic or a match-up?
Is that right?
Your line of argument is pretty clumsy. Not many will take you seriously.
So you would never ever disagree with any decision taken by the match committee?
You would never question a team selection?
You would never question a tactic or a match-up?
Is that right?
No that's not what I'm saying.
Every now and again there's decisions that I would disagree with. But they're marginal ones. You guys are all acting like he's the worst player in the AFL, and should be dropped, no matter the reshuffling and unsettling needed to the rest of the line-up. Because he is so bad that anything would be worth it just to get rid of him.
You guys are all acting like he's the worst player in the AFL
Dont care about the rest of the AFL, just what would improve my club.
RoJo would not be missed in the best 22.
Simply put my good Frizz.
Dont care about the rest of the AFL, just what would improve my club.
RoJo would not be missed in the best 22.
Simply put my good Frizz.
Exactly not in our best 22 for the last couple of weeks give a kid a go.
Gunnar Longshanks
12 Aug 2006, 23:36
Why you all think you're so much smarter than Worsfold and co. is beyond me.Every now and again there's decisions that I would disagree with.So you think you're smarter than Worsfold and co?
Fancy that.
Exactly not in our best 22 for the last couple of weeks give a [B][kid/B] a go.
One name for ya!
PRIDDIS!!!
No, he wouldn't be missed, and the team wouldn't be drastically worse if he fell off the face of the earth. It wouldn't be any better either. He's a break-even player holding his position.
And in response to someone else, he's not slow. His opponent rarely beats him to the ball, and if he does he's not far behind him.
Rowan Jones isn't great, and swapping him for Priddis may not make that big a difference. In my opinion it would be a mistake, but not a big one. The thing is, an entire thread about how Rowan Jones needs to go is ridiculous.
So you think you're smarter than Worsfold and co?
Fancy that.
Intelligent.
One name for ya!
BRETT JONES!!!
Either of the two mentioned would be better than our faithful RoJo.
No, he wouldn't be missed, and the team wouldn't be drastically worse if he fell off the face of the earth. It wouldn't be any better either. He's a break-even player holding his position.
And in response to someone else, he's not slow. His opponent rarely beats him to the ball, and if he does he's not far behind him.
Rowan Jones isn't great, and swapping him for Priddis may not make that big a difference. In my opinion it would be a mistake, but not a big one. The thing is, an entire thread about how Rowan Jones needs to go is ridiculous.
Well sorry for voicing my opinion.
Gunnar Longshanks
12 Aug 2006, 23:41
Why you all think you're so much smarter than Worsfold and co. is beyond me.Every now and again there's decisions that I would disagree with.The Newbie Two-Step.
Stenglein's a Champ!
12 Aug 2006, 23:44
No, he wouldn't be missed, and the team wouldn't be drastically worse if he fell off the face of the earth. It wouldn't be any better either. He's a break-even player holding his position.
And in response to someone else, he's not slow. His opponent rarely beats him to the ball, and if he does he's not far behind him.
Rowan Jones isn't great, and swapping him for Priddis may not make that big a difference. In my opinion it would be a mistake, but not a big one. The thing is, an entire thread about how Rowan Jones needs to go is ridiculous.
Than why are we letting Priddis rot in the WAFL!! Rojo isn't getting any younger (or better) so why aren't we investing more time into developing Priddis.
The Newbie Two-Step.
Alright, I'm not gonna call you names and get into this bullsh*t these forums are so perfectly designed for, but I'll try and explain what I'm saying.
There are some decisions I will disagree with occasionally (hey I'm probably wrong most of the time), such as hanging onto Michael Gardiner for so long and giving him chance after chance, but I'm sure there are reasons behind every one. Heck, if Gardiner didn't crash his car he may be running into brilliant AFL form right now.
However, as I said, must of the decisions I disagree with are marginal and I can understand why they are made (plus, I know that I'm not as smart as an AFL match commitee). But I highly doubt I would spend so much time and energy into a situation such as the Jones situation. One that is so negligible it's really not worth discussing. And on that note I really am tired of discussing it, so I'll leave you all to bag away.
Alright, I'm not gonna call you names and get into this bullsh*t these forums are so perfectly designed for, but I'll try and explain what I'm saying.
There are some decisions I will disagree with occasionally (hey I'm probably wrong most of the time), such as hanging onto Michael Gardiner for so long and giving him chance after chance, but I'm sure there are reasons behind every one. Heck, if Gardiner didn't crash his car he may be running into brilliant AFL form right now.
However, as I said, must of the decisions I disagree with are marginal and I can understand why they are made (plus, I know that I'm not as smart as an AFL match commitee). But I highly doubt I would spend so much time and energy into a situation such as the Jones situation. One that is so negligible it's really not worth discussing. And on that note I really am tired of discussing it, so I'll leave you all to bag away.
Who was the one who called me a moron and told me i knew nothing about footy?
Gunnar Longshanks
12 Aug 2006, 23:53
Alright, I'm not gonna call you names and get into this bullsh*t these forums are so perfectly designed for, but I'll try and explain what I'm saying.Who's calling you names?
I'm just highlighting an obvious contradiction in your posts.
The Newbie Two-Step.
There are some decisions I will disagree with occasionally (hey I'm probably wrong most of the time), such as hanging onto Michael Gardiner for so long and giving him chance after chance, but I'm sure there are reasons behind every one. Heck, if Gardiner didn't crash his car he may be running into brilliant AFL form right now.
However, as I said, must of the decisions I disagree with are marginal and I can understand why they are made (plus, I know that I'm not as smart as an AFL match commitee). But I highly doubt I would spend so much time and energy into a situation such as the Jones situation. One that is so negligible it's really not worth discussing. And on that note I really am tired of discussing it, so I'll leave you all to bag away.Gibberish.
Post something worth reading.
larrikin
13 Aug 2006, 01:44
Is that how you think about our side?
Do you divide it into defenders, midfielders and forwards?
Pretty simplistic.
Brett Jones should be holding down a spot on a HBF. That would release one of the part-time defenders we're currently playing to go elsewhere.
I'd rather see Beau Waters in the midfield ahead of RoJo.
The inclusion of Brett Jones would facilitate that.
If you want to adopt a condescending tone, then you better have something to say.
You bag Beau in one thread and in another say he should be moved to the midfield. I'm confused.
Brett Jones plays as a quasi-tall defender. Rowan Jones plays as an in an under midfielder/half forwald. Most would appreciate the difference.
The_Eagles
13 Aug 2006, 05:29
gunnar didnt 'bag' waters
He's been a long time servant of the club and always gives 100%. He doesn't deserve to cop this sort of sh.t from supporters.
Couldnt agree more. A lot of you guy's disgust me with the amount of **** you hang on Rojo. It's like Gehrig or Kasey Green all over again. Rojo doesnt deserve it. Has been very good all season and deserves his place in the 22. Yes his kicking isnt great but he makes up for it in other area's two fold.
Can anyone give me a solid reason as to why Rojo is keeping Rosa out of the team?
Rosa isnt hard at it. Doesnt win the hard ball enough, disposals arent penetrating enough and doesnt do enough defensively. Is also fairly small and needs time to bulk up. Good young player though and will get his chance in the future. Rojo has Rosa covered though at the minute.
And BTW, as I've said in other places, to bag one of our own like this, and especially a bloke who is so loyal to our club, is a disgrace
Absolutely agree. Can you imagine if Rojo stumbled across this on the net. He would be fairly hurt. Im sure I would be too if I bleed blue and gold, go out there every week and give it everything ive got for the team, the fans and the dream. And then you cop this??
You lot are a disgrace.
thecoastingcoaster
14 Aug 2006, 01:07
We all know Rojo tries his heart out for the team which is great. But his lack of kicking ability is ridiculous for a player as experienced as he is.
One example was during the game against the Kangas when he was 40m out, with no one in front of him for a good 10m, and he handballed 10m backwards to Embley who had an opponent right next to him.
look, rojo is playing good football at the moment, his kicking isnt great, but the fact is hes getting the ball and dishing it off by hand really well.
this attitude by alot of eagles fans is really stupid, i think.
OK, it might be an idea to get some games into morton, but rojo is a valuable addition to the team at the moment.
cheer for him, not for his head.
Alright im wrong i understand that a lot of you value RoJo and i have been enlightend to see some of the good things he has to offer, when i made this thread i wasnt convinced he shoudnt be in our first 22 and not to sure again but theres no doubt that hes trying, i now believe he gives his all and im sorry for those who saw me as a traitor.
wires on fire.
15 Aug 2006, 00:16
you guys just hate his bald spot.
Stenglein's a Champ!
15 Aug 2006, 00:50
Alright im wrong i understand that a lot of you value RoJo and i have been enlightend to see some of the good things he has to offer, when i made this thread i wasnt convinced he shoudnt be in our first 22 and not to sure again but theres no doubt that hes trying, i now believe he gives his all and im sorry for those who saw me as a traitor.
Big turnaround. You sound like the Da Lai Lama now.
Gunnar Longshanks
15 Aug 2006, 13:41
You bag Beau in one thread and in another say he should be moved to the midfield. I'm confused.If Waters is in the side then he is part of the midfield rotation.
I don't reckon Waters is a gun. I don't reckon he's as good as many seem to think.
That doesn't mean he should be restricted to only playing one position.
I don't see what your argument is.
Brett Jones plays as a quasi-tall defender. Rowan Jones plays as an in an under midfielder/half forwald. Most would appreciate the difference.I don't recall suggesting they were particularly similar.
Bones plays a different role. That's fine. He would be more valuable and we could easily cover RoJo in the middle.
Again, you fail to make a real argument. Flimsy assumptions are more your field.
GRANGE_GSM
15 Aug 2006, 14:00
we'l have either of the jones boys over half our spastics! actualy throw in a waters/butler/rosa aswell (any of your midfeld money tree kids)
GRANGE_GSM
15 Aug 2006, 14:01
we'l have either of the jones boys over half our spastics! actualy throw in a waters/butler/rosa aswell (any of your midfeld money tree kids)
i wish i was a west coast supporter :thumbsu: sick of our mob
Gunnar Longshanks
15 Aug 2006, 14:58
we'l have either of the jones boys over half our spastics! actualy throw in a waters/butler/rosa aswell (any of your midfeld money tree kids)Geelong have pinched enough of our superstars over the years: Geoff Miles, Derek Hall, Mitchell White, Brett Spinks, David Haynes.
Geelong have pinched enough of our superstars over the years: Geoff Miles, Derek Hall, Mitchell White, Brett Spinks, David Haynes.
ROFL!!!
Well put Gunnar.