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Gunnar Longshanks
12 Aug 2006, 20:17
IN: Bones, Morton
OUT: Hansen, RoJo
Works for me.
Maybe Rosa or Banfield will get picked ahead of Morton. Not sure.
RoJo will probably keep his spot. Again.
I reckon we should be pushing Morton at every opportunity.
In: Bones, Priddis, Banfield
Out: Hansen, RoJo, Armstrong
Priddis has surely earnt a recall with some great WAFL form. It is a joke if RoJo keeps his spot.
larrikin
12 Aug 2006, 21:45
In: Bones, Priddis, Banfield
Out: Hansen, RoJo, Armstrong
Priddis has surely earnt a recall with some great WAFL form. It is a joke if RoJo keeps his spot.
Have to pick McDougall IMO, we really missed a key forward today
Have to pick McDougall IMO, we really missed a key forward today
Not really, Staker will fill the void as he did today.
Lynchy also floats to CHF and we can compensate for his loss.
Dont get me wrong I'd prefer Hansen in the side dut Mcdud would add nothing.
Then again we are going to the Gabba next so we will win enough ball to make even Mcdud look good!! :p
OUT: Hansen, Armstrong
IN: Priddis, Morton, B. Jones, McDougall
McDougall is injured, hasnt played since Collingwood. Logical answer is to play Brett Jones instead of Hansen.
IN: B.Jones Morton
OUT: RoJo/Armstrong Hansen
peterss
12 Aug 2006, 22:10
IN: Bones, Priddis
OUT: Hansen (Inj), RoJo (Crab)
i think stakers gonna get dropped due to his 1goal 5 behinds today. hansen, rojo and armstrong out in priddis, b jones and either mcdouggie or banners.
Just wondering what wafl club chad fletcher plays for because he should be playng there next week.
Out: RoJo Hansen Fletcher maybe armstrong
In: Priddis Bones Hurn
Just wondering what wafl club chad fletcher plays for because he should be playng there next week.
Out: RoJo Hansen Fletcher maybe armstrong
In: Priddis Bones Hurn
Subiaco. :thumbsu:
And you might have a point there. ;)
I know you guys are all set in your ways for some freaking reason and won't listen but Jones was solid again today. Held his various opponents to pretty much nothing, picked up 15 solid touches, with no glaring mistakes. Played better than Armstrong, Sampi, Butler and Seaby.
But yeah, drop him because it fashionable. He's not flashy so we should dump him. I know you guys don't realise the importance of the defensive side of being a midfielder since the Eagles are blessed with the Big 3 who don't need to worry about their opponents. And you all think Jones is 'slow and useless' because he has a strange running style so you take that as 'not trying'. But seriously, get a clue.
larrikin
12 Aug 2006, 22:32
McDougall is injured, hasnt played since Collingwood. Logical answer is to play Brett Jones instead of Hansen.
IN: B.Jones Morton
OUT: RoJo/Armstrong Hansen
How come he has been named as an emergency since then?
larrikin
12 Aug 2006, 22:35
I know you guys are all set in your ways for some freaking reason and won't listen but Jones was solid again today. Held his various opponents to pretty much nothing, picked up 15 solid touches, with no glaring mistakes. Played better than Armstrong, Sampi, Butler and Seaby.
But yeah, drop him because it fashionable. He's not flashy so we should dump him. I know you guys don't realise the importance of the defensive side of being a midfielder since the Eagles are blessed with the Big 3 who don't need to worry about their opponents. And you all think Jones is 'slow and useless' because he has a strange running style so you take that as 'not trying'. But seriously, get a clue.
Good post Frizzo
I hate when people bag players because it's the fashionable thing to do - happened to Kasey Green over the past couple of years to a disgraceful extent.
Rojo can't kick, but he does add value to the side. I doubt he's best 22 (when all fit) but he is doing a job for us
How come he has been named as an emergency since then?
Wondering the same thing larrikin...I thought he was avaliable.
P.S. Agree on the Kasey Green thing, it's almost the identical situation. People expect midfielders to get 25-30 posessions and a few goals every game because over the last few years we've had players that do just that. Either that, or they have to be young, get 5 touches and look 'exciting'. Doesn't matter what their opponents do in this case.
Typical example was after Armstrong's first game, a caller rang up saying he should've been in the votes. I don't think he touched it 10 times the whole game, but the first time he went near it he put in a brilliant second and third effort and won the footy. After that he faded out of the game.
bassmanx
12 Aug 2006, 22:38
Out: Hansen
In: McDougall
No need for too much change.
Fletcher may need to be dropped for Rosa and Rojo was poo as always.
(Better not say it to loud or Frizzo will go ape)
Gunnar Longshanks
12 Aug 2006, 22:46
Out: Hansen
In: McDougall
No need for too much change.Why would you bring McDougall in?
Brett Jones is a guy who has been very unlucky not to play more games this year.
Hansen goes out. Bones comes in.
This idea that we absolutely must have 3 key forwards named in our forward-line is complete bollocks.
We'll line up with Lynch and Staker in the key posts. Then we'll push Embley and/or Cox forward at different stages.
Just because Hansen goes out, it doesn't mean McDougall suddenly demands selection.
Out: Hansen
In: McDougall
No need for too much change.
Fletcher may need to be dropped for Rosa and Rojo was poo as always.
(Better not say it to loud or Frizzo will go ape)
Dont forget Larriken sometimes i think they are RoJo.
bassmanx
12 Aug 2006, 22:50
Why would you bring McDougall in?
Brett Jones is a guy who has been very unlucky not to play more games this year.
Hansen goes out. Bones comes in.
This idea that we absolutely must have 3 key forwards named in our forward-line is complete bollocks.
We'll line up with Lynch and Staker in the key posts. Then we'll push Embley and/or Cox forward at different stages.
Just because Hansen goes out, it doesn't mean McDougall suddenly demands selection.
The Doogs was unlucky to be dropped after the Collingwood game.
Doogs for Hansen would not be a terrible change.
bassmanx
12 Aug 2006, 22:51
Dont forget Larriken sometimes i think they are RoJo.
I'm Rojo...and so's my Mum.
The Doogs was unlucky to be dropped after the Collingwood game.
Doogs for Hansen would not be a terrible change.
I don't think he was unlucky. He's shown time and again that he's not quite up to being a key forward at the AFL level. He did get a fair bit of the ball, but only kicked one goal and never looked like kicking any. It's sad because the guy obviously works his guts out at the WAFL, and I think it's confidence more than anything that keeps him from playing regular top-line footy. Especially with his kicking.
Staker, Lynch, and Hansen are all far better. Plus we have rucks that when pushed forward have more of an impact than McDougall. I always pray that he plays well on his rare call-ups but sadly it doesn't happen. I think there might be somethign to the suggestion that he was only picked for the Collingwood game so he could be showed off as trade bait.
Stenglein's a Champ!
12 Aug 2006, 23:39
In: Bones & Priddis (doubt it though)
Out: Hansen & Rojo
I'm sick of people saying that because Rojo gives 100% he deserves selection. If you aint got it you aint got it.
I'm sick of people saying that because Rojo gives 100% he deserves selection.
If anyone actually said that they're an idiot.
Stenglein's a Champ!
12 Aug 2006, 23:49
I suppose it's just expected from Cuzz09 now
larrikin
13 Aug 2006, 01:49
Dont forget Larriken sometimes i think they are RoJo.
Did you actually read my post. Here I'll show it to you again
Good post Frizzo
I hate when people bag players because it's the fashionable thing to do - happened to Kasey Green over the past couple of years to a disgraceful extent.
Rojo can't kick, but he does add value to the side. I doubt he's best 22 (when all fit) but he is doing a job for us
larrikin
13 Aug 2006, 01:50
In: Bones & Priddis (doubt it though)
Out: Hansen & Rojo
I'm sick of people saying that because Rojo gives 100% he deserves selection. If you aint got it you aint got it.
Who said that?
Exactly what I'm wondering.
The_Eagles
13 Aug 2006, 05:12
Why do many want Priddis included? he looked a bit slow, like a wafl player, when I saw him
Why do many want Priddis included? he looked a bit slow, like a wafl player, when I saw him
Because supporters always want to see the youngsters playing. Even if they're not AFL ready just yet.
Lynch drops a mark
13 Aug 2006, 13:32
Out Hansen
In Banfield
yatesie
13 Aug 2006, 13:39
agree totaly but i would like to see armstrong keep his place
macca69
13 Aug 2006, 13:56
Out - Hansen
In - B. Jones (should be in the best 22 each week IMO)
wce_all_da_way
13 Aug 2006, 15:57
I don't think Doogs is injured. He looked right yesterday morning going for a BIG run around the river. I was on bike, met him at the Causeway with me heading towards the Narrows. About a minute after I arrived at the Bell Tower he arrived at it and kept running. Looked pretty determined...
That being said a swap of Hansen for Bones would not bother me at all.
sydney eagle
13 Aug 2006, 16:44
I don't think Doogs is injured. He looked right yesterday morning going for a BIG run around the river. I was on bike, met him at the Causeway with me heading towards the Narrows. About a minute after I arrived at the Bell Tower he arrived at it and kept running. Looked pretty determined...
That being said a swap of Hansen for Bones would not bother me at all. If McDougall IS fit i'd bring him in to replace Hansen as CHF is the position that he has had some experience in this last season or so. He has only played one game this season after being out the best part of 12 months and he got 20 odd possesssions (but only one goal ). I like Bones but NOT as a forward.
Stenglein's a Champ!
13 Aug 2006, 17:58
I think with Hansen out it gives Staker a chance to show us what he's got as a genuine CHF, I don't see a real point in bringing in Doogs (unless that is to show him off to other clubs).
Gunnar Longshanks
13 Aug 2006, 18:05
I think with Hansen out it gives Staker a chance to show us what he's got as a genuine CHF, I don't see a real point in bringing in Doogs (unless that is to show him off to other clubs).Exactly.
McDougall's not going to be in the mix come finals. Why bother playing him?
I'd rather get Bones into the side.
sydney eagle
13 Aug 2006, 18:17
Exactly.
McDougall's not going to be in the mix come finals. Why bother playing him?
I'd rather get Bones into the side. This time last year we didn't think that Green was going to be in the mix come finals time either ! However circumstances changed and we had to play him. If Hansen doesn't come back well from injury we will need McDougall as a Centre Half Forward. Why bother playing him ? Because we want a tall target in that position who has had some experience if the worst happens to our regular Centre Half Forward !
Vic Eagles Member
13 Aug 2006, 18:18
We don't need guys like Priddis, McDougall or Morton coming in at this stage. They won't be picked for a crunch final, and being Round 20, we've got to get a settled approach for September.
Banfield and/or Brett Jones should be the players looked at to come back in.
sydney eagle
13 Aug 2006, 18:22
We don't need guys like Priddis, McDougall or Morton coming in at this stage. They won't be picked for a crunch final, and being Round 20, we've got to get a settled approach for September.
Banfield and/or Brett Jones should be the players looked at to come back in. Much as I admire Drew Banfield I don't think that the Eagles should try him as a replacement for Hansen at Centre Half Forward !:p
Kaitsey
13 Aug 2006, 18:25
Out : hansen, chick (i seriously think he is gonna get suspended)
In : banners, Rosa or even morton
Please dont bring back mcdougall he is always gonna let us all down!
Vic Eagles Member
13 Aug 2006, 18:29
Much as I admire Drew Banfield I don't think that the Eagles should try him as a replacement for Hansen at Centre Half Forward !:p
Got Hunter coming back soon, but McDougall is not the answer up forward for us. He's been given opportunities to show his value, but has continuously fell short of the required mark. If Travis Gaspar is fit I'd prefer to see him come back in as a temporary CHF in Hansen's absence.
The last thing we need is more running players like Priddis/Morton coming back, because our running power is our obvious strength, so we shouldn't tamper with a winning formula in that area.
Even Staker could be given a role at CHF while Hansen is out, Staker has good hands and has improved again this season.
Ok herss what we do....
we bring in Brett jones.....
Graham then goes to CHF....staker to CHB....hes quick and strong enough to play there....the other option is the puch Glass to CHB and play Chicky or Jones at FB
Bradshaw is thier main target.....so I would play Glass on him....in fact we perobabaly dont even need a third tall this week...againts freo the following week we will need a third tall defender....Hunter might be back for the derby
IN:B Jones, M Morton
OUT:Hansen(Inj), R Jones(Omitted)
It's pretty obvious that Staker will go to CHF if McDougall is unavailable.
B Jones will replace Selwood in the backline, Selwood will replace R Jones in the middle.
M Morton has class written all over him so I would pick him over Banfield.
Stenglein's a Champ!
13 Aug 2006, 20:55
Ok herss what we do....
we bring in Brett jones.....
Graham then goes to CHF....staker to CHB....hes quick and strong enough to play there....the other option is the puch Glass to CHB and play Chicky or Jones at FB
Bradshaw is thier main target.....so I would play Glass on him....in fact we perobabaly dont even need a third tall this week...againts freo the following week we will need a third tall defender....Hunter might be back for the derby
What's the point in putting Staker back and Graham forward, they've both played the majority of the season at the other end. As other people have said, why change a winning formula?
Apparently Hansen hasn't been ruled out yet. The injury may not be as bad as first thought and could be anything from 0-2 weeks.
I know you guys are all set in your ways for some freaking reason and won't listen but Jones was solid again today. Held his various opponents to pretty much nothing, picked up 15 solid touches, with no glaring mistakes. Played better than Armstrong, Sampi, Butler and Seaby.
But yeah, drop him because it fashionable. He's not flashy so we should dump him. I know you guys don't realise the importance of the defensive side of being a midfielder since the Eagles are blessed with the Big 3 who don't need to worry about their opponents. And you all think Jones is 'slow and useless' because he has a strange running style so you take that as 'not trying'. But seriously, get a clue.
Praise the lord...somebody see's the light.
I think with Hansen out it gives Staker a chance to show us what he's got as a genuine CHF, I don't see a real point in bringing in Doogs (unless that is to show him off to other clubs).
Agree!
I think with Hansen out it gives us a chance to see what Stakers got FULL STOP!
Having said that he could have kicked 4 or 5 goals yesterday and we would be all saying he has arrived.
We don't need guys like Priddis, McDougall or Morton coming in at this stage. They won't be picked for a crunch final, and being Round 20, we've got to get a settled approach for September.
Banfield and/or Brett Jones should be the players looked at to come back in.
How can you say that a guy like Priddis won't be picked for a crunch game?
Take last year's GF as an example. We were gettting flogged until Daniel Kerr came back late in the 3rd and 4th quarters and started to win the tough, hard balls. This is exactly what Priddis does - goes in and gets the ball. Its all good and well to have guys like Cousins, Fletcher (very over-rated), Rosa and Jones scouring the back of the packs for the easy handball, but you can't underestimate players that can win a contested possession.
I think the Eagles should be bringing Priddis in now to get him back into the AFL tempo and should not even be considering guys like Morton or Rosa or Armstrong, who I admit are talented, but do not win enough hard balls to justify their position in the team at the moment.
My Changes:
In: Priddis, Banfield, Bones
Out: Hansen, Jones, Armstrong
McDougall must come in. I know he is a much maligned player and rightly so but did anybody notice that when we lost Lynch in the second quarter with Hansen already off the ground we didnt kick a goal for about 20 minutes and only started to look dangerous again once Lynch came back on.
Staker is good and I have no problem with him being in the side but he is a forward flanker. Not a KPP. He plays better when he isnt the target man. We simply must bring in McDougall to CHF with Lynch at FF and Staker as the third tall.
Armstrong isnt doing enough and B.Jones should be in the 22 every week. Im unsure on why he is always on the outer? Terrific player. Banfield deserves a recall too but were not likely to make three changes so for me its McDougall and Bones in and Armstrong and Hansen out.
If Hansen's injury isnt as bad as first thought then just keep Ash in the side.
McDougall must come in. I know he is a much maligned player and rightly so but did anybody notice that when we lost Lynch in the second quarter with Hansen already off the ground we didnt kick a goal for about 20 minutes and only started to look dangerous again once Lynch came back on.
Staker is good and I have no problem with him being in the side but he is a forward flanker. Not a KPP. He plays better when he isnt the target man. We simply must bring in McDougall to CHF with Lynch at FF and Staker as the third tall.
Armstrong isnt doing enough and B.Jones should be in the 22 every week. Im unsure on why he is always on the outer? Terrific player. Banfield deserves a recall too but were not likely to make three changes so for me its McDougall and Bones in and Armstrong and Hansen out.
If Hansen's injury isnt as bad as first thought then just keep Ash in the side.
I think no matter how good or bad Hansens injury is we should give him a bit of a rest. He obviously isnt 100%.
If Doogs is OK might as well give him a go as Hansens replacement.
I think Rowan Jones will get another game - But wouldnt surprise or dissapoint me if he didnt.
INS: B.Jones, A.McDougall, M.Priddis
OUTS: R.Jones, A.Hansen, D.Chick (if suspended)
Emerald
13 Aug 2006, 23:21
Hansen on the news tonight didn't look good at all, he was limping quite badly but they said the injury would keep him out for no more than two weeks. Good news :thumbsu:
In: B. Jones, Priddis
Out: Hansen, Chick (if suspended)
IMO no-one has been playing bad enough to warrant omission so I say for the sake of team balance, for one week at least, let's only make forced changes.
I completely disagree with the majority about dropping Rowan Jones. He has been doing his job very well this year and has been a solid contributor, (not outstanding, but solid) in every game he has played. He may not be flashy but he is an excellent overhead mark and can get the contested ball. I agree that his kicking is not great but he plays to his strengths very well and is a key player for the team.
The only change I would make next week is Brett Jones for Hansen.
I completely disagree with the majority about dropping Rowan Jones.
Don't mention that here, you'll be lynched. Best just to not mention it and ignore the constant calls for his head. It'll keep you sane.
Warwick
13 Aug 2006, 23:31
I heard Judd and Kerr could do with a break. Please!
I'd rather play you lot at Subi to tell you the truth. I think you guys have the home dressing room at the Gabba now.
macca69
13 Aug 2006, 23:32
McDougall must come in. I know he is a much maligned player and rightly so but did anybody notice that when we lost Lynch in the second quarter with Hansen already off the ground we didnt kick a goal for about 20 minutes and only started to look dangerous again once Lynch came back on.
Staker is good and I have no problem with him being in the side but he is a forward flanker. Not a KPP. He plays better when he isnt the target man. We simply must bring in McDougall to CHF with Lynch at FF and Staker as the third tall.
Armstrong isnt doing enough and B.Jones should be in the 22 every week. Im unsure on why he is always on the outer? Terrific player. Banfield deserves a recall too but were not likely to make three changes so for me its McDougall and Bones in and Armstrong and Hansen out.
If Hansen's injury isnt as bad as first thought then just keep Ash in the side.
When we palyed Adelaide ealier in the year at AAMI, Staker played CHF in the absence of Hansen and was close to best on ground, took a lot of contested marks IIRC and kicked a few goals too. I agree he isn't a genuine KPP, but I don't think McDougall is either, he plays a lot smaller than his physical attributes suggest he should, in fact I would go so far as to say he looks more like a natural winger than a forward. If we feel we are going in too small then I would prefer Gaspar to Doogs tbh (no idea about their comparative WAFL form though) as he is a genuine KPP who demands the footy.
Agree on your B. Jones comment though, easily a best 22 player IMO and I am as unsure as u as to why Woosha doesn't agree. Also agree than Banfield deserves a recall, but it's very hard to find a spot for him.
94_Eagles
14 Aug 2006, 00:22
Banners and Bones won't be in the same team IMO.
sydney eagle
14 Aug 2006, 11:07
Gaspar's form in the Wafl hasn't caused anyone to wax lyrical (The one game I saw he was pretty ordinary until late in the last quarter when he picked up a couple of goals when the game was already won) and McDougall, in his only game in the AFL this season, had twenty odd possessions and kicked a goal (should have had more but his kicking was poor). In addition McDougall might be able to relieve in the Ruck on occassions, allowing Lynch to play the entire game at Full Forward. Unless he is injured (as some people have suggested) I think that McDougall should be given a chance. You never know, injuries to other players might mean that we need him come finals time. Remember last year when Kasey Green had to come into the team for the Grand Final without having played virtually all year ? The other solutions to the lack of Hansen mean shuffling the existing team around, which is something that we should possibly try to avoid in the lead up to the finals.
bassmanx
14 Aug 2006, 11:25
Gaspar's form in the Wafl hasn't caused anyone to wax lyrical (The one game I saw he was pretty ordinary until late in the last quarter when he picked up a couple of goals when the game was already won) and McDougall, in his only game in the AFL this season, had twenty odd possessions and kicked a goal (should have had more but his kicking was poor). In addition McDougall might be able to relieve in the Ruck on occassions, allowing Lynch to play the entire game at Full Forward. Unless he is injured (as some people have suggested) I think that McDougall should be given a chance. You never know, injuries to other players might mean that we need him come finals time. Remember last year when Kasey Green had to come into the team for the Grand Final without having played virtually all year ? The other solutions to the lack of Hansen mean shuffling the existing team around, which is something that we should possibly try to avoid in the lead up to the finals.
Not a bad call at all.
while Hansen is a big loss we can cover for him, because he doesnt take too many overhead marks we need to replace him a leading type player. Staker would be the best option then find someome to fill his role....which is odd because staker doesnt have a set position really he just floats around the fwd line
If its not working seaby or Cox can go fwd at times also. Embley showed some form also and could be a pnch hitting CHF for two games or so.....he would work his arse off thats for sure...he actually leads well and is good overhead. At 190cm he isnt huge but consider Hunter is 189cm only its not that silly an idea.
Armstrong and Sampi are going ok to and provide good small options, they are both desperate to stay in the side so I believe overall even without Hansen our fwd line is a lot better than this time last season where I had no idea where our goals were going to come from at all
we have brisabane then freo...if we win the lions game (Minus Voss Brown and keating and heap of others) we'll have second spot in the bag so the priority should be to get everyone fit for round 22 and the finals. I wouldnt mind if we dropped the derby. I think the round 22 match v Tigers is extremely important game because its at the MCG and we need to make a statement at that venue. Lets get the side ready for that game and treat it like a mini final
Warrack Eagles
14 Aug 2006, 12:16
Should Rosa Play???
Gunnar Longshanks
14 Aug 2006, 12:38
McDougall must come in. I know he is a much maligned player and rightly so but did anybody notice that when we lost Lynch in the second quarter with Hansen already off the ground we didnt kick a goal for about 20 minutes and only started to look dangerous again once Lynch came back on.
Lynch is an important player.
What does that have to do with McDougall?
Rosa wont play again this year Warrack unless major injuries come into it.
Why does everyone want Priddis. yes he is good hard at it but he still has alot to learn. He just isnt accountable enough yet to be playing regular AFL footy and is nowhere near ahead of Banfield at this stage.
McDougall
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
FiveStrings
14 Aug 2006, 15:59
Rosa wont play again this year Warrack unless major injuries come into it.
Why not? I thought he'd pretty much cemented his spot before he got injured.
Gunnar Longshanks
14 Aug 2006, 16:07
In addition McDougall might be able to relieve in the Ruck on occassions, allowing Lynch to play the entire game at Full Forward. We have Cox and Seaby.
McDougall's ruckwork isn't much of a carrot.
If Lynch gets a run on the ball, it's not out of necessity.
94_Eagles
14 Aug 2006, 16:07
Why not? I thought he'd pretty much cemented his spot before he got injured.
Rosa and Butler can be interchanged, they're pretty much the same player really.
Gunnar Longshanks
14 Aug 2006, 16:09
Rosa and Butler can be interchanged, they're pretty much the same player really.Execpt Butler wins the occasional contested possession.
Gunnar Longshanks
14 Aug 2006, 17:36
Chick's out.
IN: Bones, Morton
OUT: Hansen, Chick
Might be good for Chick to have the week off anyway after the last game.
Ben mckinley played a stellar on the weekend what are your thoughts about him playing this week ?
Vic Eagles Member
14 Aug 2006, 20:04
How can you say that a guy like Priddis won't be picked for a crunch game?
Take last year's GF as an example. We were gettting flogged until Daniel Kerr came back late in the 3rd and 4th quarters and started to win the tough, hard balls. This is exactly what Priddis does - goes in and gets the ball. Its all good and well to have guys like Cousins, Fletcher (very over-rated), Rosa and Jones scouring the back of the packs for the easy handball, but you can't underestimate players that can win a contested possession.
I think the Eagles should be bringing Priddis in now to get him back into the AFL tempo and should not even be considering guys like Morton or Rosa or Armstrong, who I admit are talented, but do not win enough hard balls to justify their position in the team at the moment.
My Changes:
In: Priddis, Banfield, Bones
Out: Hansen, Jones, Armstrong
You cannot seriously compare Priddis to Kerr. Kerr plays in the best league against the best players in Australia. Priddis maybe a good player for us in years to come, but at the moment he's played 2 or 3 games of AFL football and the rest of the time he's been playing in the WAFL, which is a competition that has gone downhill in recent years.
Who would you drop on semi-final or grand-final day to accomodate a player like Priddis? It's just not feasable at this stage.
The intensity rises more than a notch in finals, and we don't want kids with less than 5 games experience running around for us then.
Same goes for Morton, maybe very good for us in the future, but we're having a tilt at a flag and these guys haven't been an integral part of the side that's taken us there.
Ben mckinley played a stellar on the weekend what are your thoughts about him playing this week ?
He'll play next year I reckon.
Whats the word on Lecras? Is he injured or what?
Chicky gets a rest which is a good thing coming up to the derby.
IN: B.Jones Hurn/Morton, cant decide.
OUT:Chick Hansen
Stenglein's a Champ!
14 Aug 2006, 21:07
In: Bones, Hurn/Banfield
Out: Hansen, Chick
Might be good for Chick to have the week off anyway after the last game.
I agree Frizzo!
Also agree with not bringing Matt Rosa back this year he is a younger version of Rowan Jones.
sydney eagle
15 Aug 2006, 20:07
We have Cox and Seaby.
McDougall's ruckwork isn't much of a carrot.
If Lynch gets a run on the ball, it's not out of necessity. Cox and Seaby have both been injured at times and Cox is just back from a layoff. Is he fully match fit ? I don't want big Dean injured again and missing finals ! If McDougall is there he can pinch hit in the ruck or move into full forward and allow Lynch to have a run on the ball.
halfbackflanker
16 Aug 2006, 00:05
Chick's out.
IN: Bones, Morton
OUT: Hansen, Chick
I'd love to see Banfield get a go in the back half, but you're probably right about Bones. Both those guys are neck and neck in terms of games played and the results they've gotten this year. It'd be a shame to think of Banners missing out on finals footy this year, after all the years of service. I guess there's no room for sentiment though. He'd still be a good player to have in the finals, but the backline with Nico and Hunter coming back is just too strong. Chick getting done for a week was ridiculous, but at least it'll give Bones an opportunity.
The replacement for Hansen I find a bit more problematic. Do you really want to be bringing in guys who've only played a handful of games this year? I guess there's a bit of a lack of options there though. Hurn's had six games this year, so there's a case for him at least. I think Morton's only played the one game this year, against Adelaide. What's the thinking behind bringing in him in? Just to give him experience for next season?
I think Morton's only played the one game this year, against Adelaide. What's the thinking behind bringing in him in? Just to give him experience for next season?
Yeah I don't get the logic behind bringing in Morton. He played one game and he was ok. We should be solidifying a team for September. I doubt Morton will be playing in any finals, and if he did I'd seriously be wondering why. So why would we bring him in for this game? Banfield would be a far, far better option.
Gunnar Longshanks
16 Aug 2006, 10:38
Cox and Seaby have both been injured at times and Cox is just back from a layoff. Is he fully match fit ? I don't want big Dean injured again and missing finals ! Er yeah - but they're both back in the side now.
It hardly makes sense to leave McDougall out when Cox was injured, only to bring him in as a back-up ruckman once Cox is back.
If McDougall had demonstrated an ability to hold down a KP then he'd be in the mix. But he hasn't taken his chances in the spots we need him to perform in, so this half-baked theory of him being selecting as a 3rd ruckman is a bit random.
McDougall might get another shot with Hansen and Hunter both out. If he does, he will be picked because of a desire to play an extra KPP. It won't be because McDougall can play in the ruck for 10 minutes each game.
If McDougall is there he can pinch hit in the ruck or move into full forward and allow Lynch to have a run on the ball.
Earlier, your argument was that McDougall's inclusion would allow Lynch to stay at FF permanently.
Either way, what's the point of picking a player who doesn't perform?
Versatility is over-rated, especially if the players you're picking aren't good enough.
Warrack Eagles
16 Aug 2006, 11:18
I agree Frizzo!
Also agree with not bringing Matt Rosa back this year he is a younger version of Rowan Jones.
PIGS ARSE HE IS
PIGS ARSE HE IS
Rosa has some class about him his disposal is very good...I see Rosa as a crosss between Embley and Stenglein...he's tall and rangy and has a massive future...he's still in the mix to play finals also.
Not sure about Rosa playing finals this year.
He's nothing like Rowan Jones though. Not as hard, but his disposal is better. Plus he's still young...Jones is, and always will be a slightly better than fringe player. Rosa, I'm hoping, will develop to be far better than that.
I think we've seen the end of Hurn, Rosa, Morton, Priddis for the year, barring substantial injuries. The only other change I can see for this week would be LeCras in for Armstrong. Banfield will probably weasel his way back into the side before all's said and done.
Gunnar Longshanks
17 Aug 2006, 19:28
IN: Banfield, Rosa, B Jones, Hurn, Le Cras
OUT: Chick (suspended), Hansen (inj)
The first three INs are the only likely ones.
94_Eagles
17 Aug 2006, 19:37
B. Jones will definately come in, so will Banners, probably. Wouldn't be surprised if Hurn comes in, though.
wires on fire.
17 Aug 2006, 19:40
bring in banners and rosa. i could definetly see rosa being a part of finals if things fell into place for him.
Gunnar Longshanks
17 Aug 2006, 19:48
bring in banners and rosa. i could definetly see rosa being a part of finals if things fell into place for him.
Not sold on Rosa.
Doesn't win enough contests.
Given that he gets the ball in space so often, he probably doesn't do enough damage.
Bones offers us extra height in defence. He plays a role.
wires on fire.
17 Aug 2006, 19:57
its probably a good opportunity to see what rosa can do a few weeks out from finals. probably keep his morale up as far as showing hes still a shot to play finals and not to slacken off. i just reckon hes a good ball carrier with pace, and generally a good user of the ball. we all know what bones is capable of and if we need him come finals time we wont be hesitating to call on him.
I think B.Jones is a certainty for this week to replace Chicky.
Banners would be a good inclusion as well. '
They wont bring in both Banners and Hurn so it will be one or the other if either.
Possibly Rosa will come in.
LeCras has no chance.
Kangaboy
17 Aug 2006, 20:29
apparently cousins didnt train at all on monday is this true? will he play?
I think B.Jones is a certainty for this week to replace Chicky.
Banners would be a good inclusion as well. '
They wont bring in both Banners and Hurn so it will be one or the other if either.
Possibly Rosa will come in.
LeCras has no chance.
LeCras would be the only one out of Morton, Pridds, Hurn, Rosa etc I would consider.
Vic Eagles Member
17 Aug 2006, 20:45
LeCras would be the only one out of Morton, Pridds, Hurn, Rosa etc I would consider.
For what reason(s)?
I think B.Jones is a certainty for this week to replace Chicky.
Banners would be a good inclusion as well. '
They wont bring in both Banners and Hurn so it will be one or the other if either.
Possibly Rosa will come in.
LeCras has no chance.
I agree with you on b jones and chick .. I think we might keep banner for finals ( experience). we will prob give hurn a run just in case we need him for finals. I also agree LeCras no chance
apparently cousins didnt train at all on monday is this true? will he play?
Rest him - We dont want him missing more "important" games
For what reason(s)?
The only spot really up for grabs in the team heading into the finals (IMO) is a forward pocket/forward flank spot. For me it's out of Armstrong/LeCras to fill that hole, they're the two most likely to be able to play the role effectively. We don't need to touch the midfield, so I'd say Rosa and Priddis and done for '06 (can't wait to see them in '07 though). Other than that we need to solidify a team for September.
When Nico and Hunter come back in there's gonna be some very unlucky omissions.
94_Eagles
18 Aug 2006, 00:21
When Nico and Hunter come back in there's gonna be some very unlucky omissions.
The 2 who come in this week and Armstrong IMO. Chick has to come back aswell, remember. Oh, and Hansen too.
****, someone from the regular side is going to be unlucky.
Also, thought Morton should have been in the mix this week aswell.
halfbackflanker
18 Aug 2006, 00:36
The only spot really up for grabs in the team heading into the finals (IMO) is a forward pocket/forward flank spot. For me it's out of Armstrong/LeCras to fill that hole, they're the two most likely to be able to play the role effectively. We don't need to touch the midfield, so I'd say Rosa and Priddis and done for '06 (can't wait to see them in '07 though). Other than that we need to solidify a team for September.
When Nico and Hunter come back in there's gonna be some very unlucky omissions.
Indeed. Out of the two forwards you mentioned, Armstrong is the more suitable for finals footy at this stage, and strikes me as someone who might just pop up at the right moment for us. I suppose it is all a question of whether they want to go with the two crumbing forwards or some other approach for the finals. I know we're talking about the Brisbane game, but they'll basically be setting the direction now.
I must say, looking at the players coming back, and this is making the bold assumption that we'll have a fully fit list come finals time, I don't know who's going to make way eventually. It's actually hard to make a case for a second crumber given the quality on hand. I did wonder if, with Nico and Hunter coming back, whether one of our backmen would play that crumbing role, switching between forward and back. Like Waters for example, or Chick, both guys with great defensive pressure. I would think Nico is pretty essential for giving us run and delivery off that back half, so someone's gotta shift back there.
Other than the obvious players on the edge of selection (e.g. Banfield, Bones etc.) who, barring injuries, will probably miss, there's got to be some recently established players that'll have to make way. Waters, Butler, Fletcher and R.Jones are all valueable, but one or even two of them may be forced to make way come September - a pretty difficult decision really.
How does this look for a potential premiership lineup?
B: Wirra, Glass, Chick
HB: Nicoski, Graham, Stenglein
C: Butler, Cousins, Braun
HF: Hansen, Hunter , Embley
F: Sampi, Lynch, Waters
ruck: Cox, Judd, Kerr
int: Seaby, Selwood, Fletcher, Staker, R.Jones (one too many I know!)
Omissions: Banfield, Armstrong, B.Jones, Rosa, Priddis etc.
Feel free to call this crap if you want. I'm just struggling here. A month or so ago I would have said Butler was a certain ommission, but he's been doing well in this line-up. I think Bones is a solid player and a born defender after my own heart, but I just can't find a spot in a back half for him with this much class. My preference is to leave out players with the poorest disposal by foot, which puts Fletcher, Rojo and Waters in the firing line for ommission, but all of them have something to give. Staker leads the team in contested possessions and I think he could make a real impact, so to me he's safe. Selwood is a terrific tagger and a quality player, so he should also remain. So who goes?
Gunnar Longshanks
18 Aug 2006, 12:48
HF: Hansen, Hunter , Embley
F: Sampi, Lynch, WatersToo top-heavy.
What has Waters contributed as a forward this season?
94_Eagles
18 Aug 2006, 14:41
Indeed. Out of the two forwards you mentioned, Armstrong is the more suitable for finals footy at this stage, and strikes me as someone who might just pop up at the right moment for us. I suppose it is all a question of whether they want to go with the two crumbing forwards or some other approach for the finals. I know we're talking about the Brisbane game, but they'll basically be setting the direction now.
I must say, looking at the players coming back, and this is making the bold assumption that we'll have a fully fit list come finals time, I don't know who's going to make way eventually. It's actually hard to make a case for a second crumber given the quality on hand. I did wonder if, with Nico and Hunter coming back, whether one of our backmen would play that crumbing role, switching between forward and back. Like Waters for example, or Chick, both guys with great defensive pressure. I would think Nico is pretty essential for giving us run and delivery off that back half, so someone's gotta shift back there.
Other than the obvious players on the edge of selection (e.g. Banfield, Bones etc.) who, barring injuries, will probably miss, there's got to be some recently established players that'll have to make way. Waters, Butler, Fletcher and R.Jones are all valueable, but one or even two of them may be forced to make way come September - a pretty difficult decision really.
How does this look for a potential premiership lineup?
B: Wirra, Glass, Chick
HB: Nicoski, Graham, Stenglein
C: Butler, Cousins, Braun
HF: Hansen, Hunter , Embley
F: Sampi, Lynch, Waters
ruck: Cox, Judd, Kerr
int: Seaby, Selwood, Fletcher, Staker, R.Jones (one too many I know!)
Omissions: Banfield, Armstrong, B.Jones, Rosa, Priddis etc.
Feel free to call this crap if you want. I'm just struggling here. A month or so ago I would have said Butler was a certain ommission, but he's been doing well in this line-up. I think Bones is a solid player and a born defender after my own heart, but I just can't find a spot in a back half for him with this much class. My preference is to leave out players with the poorest disposal by foot, which puts Fletcher, Rojo and Waters in the firing line for ommission, but all of them have something to give. Staker leads the team in contested possessions and I think he could make a real impact, so to me he's safe. Selwood is a terrific tagger and a quality player, so he should also remain. So who goes?
Butler.
FiveStrings
18 Aug 2006, 14:53
How does this look for a potential premiership lineup?
B: Wirra, Glass, Chick
HB: Nicoski, Graham, Stenglein
C: Butler, Cousins, Braun
HF: Hansen, Hunter , Embley
F: Sampi, Lynch, Waters
ruck: Cox, Judd, Kerr
int: Seaby, Selwood, Fletcher, Staker, R.Jones (one too many I know!)
Omissions: Banfield, Armstrong, B.Jones, Rosa, Priddis etc.
So who goes?
Between Sampi, Butler and RoJo for mine. Maybe Nicoski if he can't find form coming off a long layoff. Sampi hasn't set the world on fire since he came back in but he's an impact player and worth keeping in the team. Butler and Jones would be unlucky to miss out - they haven't put a foot wrong. I agree that Selwood is safe. Waters is safe.
If Hansen doesnt come back from injury would you play another tall instead or leave the side as it is?
Whoever misses out of your 23 is going to be desperately unlucky, as are Banfield, Armstrong, Rosa and Bones.
larrikin
19 Aug 2006, 11:06
B. Jones will definately come in, so will Banners, probably. Wouldn't be surprised if Hurn comes in, though.
Jones and Banfield the ins
Vic Eagles Member
19 Aug 2006, 14:37
The only spot really up for grabs in the team heading into the finals (IMO) is a forward pocket/forward flank spot. For me it's out of Armstrong/LeCras to fill that hole, they're the two most likely to be able to play the role effectively. We don't need to touch the midfield, so I'd say Rosa and Priddis and done for '06 (can't wait to see them in '07 though). Other than that we need to solidify a team for September.
When Nico and Hunter come back in there's gonna be some very unlucky omissions.
OK. I agree that it's ridiculous to even contemplate meddling with the midfield, but I think it's fair to say that Armstrong has shown more than Le Cras when given the chance in the AFL this year. WAFL form is irrelevant for mine, because you cannot measure the step-up.
autologic
19 Aug 2006, 16:02
Why does everyone want Priddis. yes he is good hard at it but he still has alot to learn. He just isnt accountable enough yet to be playing regular AFL footy and is nowhere near ahead of Banfield at this stage.
I agree. In the WAFL games i've seen Priddis play he hasnt been anywhere near his man at any stage.
With our gun midfielders themselves lacking a little accountability we can't really afford an average rookie playing the same unaccountable style.
The guy is also a little on the slow side.